>> [APPLAUSE] I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
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I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER,[1. Call to Order ]
AND ANY PERSON WHO IS NOT SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA MAY ADDRESS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES BY COMPLETING A CITIZEN APPEARANCE REQUEST FORM.IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEANING ACT, THE COMMISSION IS RESTRICTING DISCUSSING OVERTAKING ACTIONS DURING THE CITIZENS' COMMENTS.
IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK UNDER THE CITIZEN COMMENTS, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO REGISTER NOW WITH THE SECRETARY, THE SECRETARY WILL CALL YOU FORWARD TO SPEAK IN THE ORDER YOU HAVE REGISTERED IN.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS?
>> THANK YOU. IT TAKES US DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 3 ON OUR AGENDA.
[3. Work Session ]
THAT'S OUR STAFF APPROVED CAS. MR. CLINTON.>> THE FIRST ONE IS CA 24-43 FOR 852 EAST WORTH STREET.
THIS WAS TO REBUILD AN EXISTING WOODEN PATIO COVER OVER THEIR EXISTING PATIO.
THE NEXT ONE IS CA 24-44 FOR 212 EAST TEXAS STREET AND THE NEXT ONE FOLLOWING IT, CA 24-45.
THESE ARE TWO PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE MASON FAMILY.
ONE IS THEIR BUSINESS, THE MAGNOLIA BUSINESS GROUP, AND THE OTHER ONE IS WHERE IS THEIR PERSONAL RESIDENTS.
THEY LIVE IN THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR.
THIS WAS TO BUILD A NEW FENCE ACROSS THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT BORDERS THE CITY PARKING LOT.
THESE WERE TWO CAS THAT PERTAINED TO EACH ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
THE OTHER PROPERTY, CA 24-45 AND 128 EAST TEXAS STREET.
>> THE NEXT ONE IS CA 24-46, AND THIS IS FOR 820 EAST TEXAS STREET.
THEY HAD TO DO THIS IN ORDER TO WORK ON THE FOUNDATION FOR THE HOUSE.
IT'S LIKE THE MOVING OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE TO ALLOW A NEW FOUNDATION TO BE PLACED UNDERNEATH IT AND IT CAN BE MOVED BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION.
THE NEXT ONE IS CA 2447-4603 EAST TEXAS STREET, AND THIS IS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING WOOD PICKET FENCE.
IT'S DETERIORATING WITH A STEEL IRON FENCE, 48 INCHES TALL.
THE NEXT ONE IS CA 24-49 FOR 626 EAST WALL STREET.
THIS IS TO REPAINT THE HOUSE IN A NEW PAINT COLOR SCHEME.
THEN WE HAVE CA 24-50 FOR 319 SOUTH MAIN STREET.
THIS IS A NEW WALL SIGN FOR THE SPICE AND T EXCHANGE BUILDING.
THERE HAD NOT BEEN A WALL SIGN THERE BEFORE THEY JUST HAD THE HANGING SIGN ONLY.
WE HAVE CA 24-51 FOR 120 SOUTH MAIN STREET.
THIS IS THE GRAPEVINE BRIDAL BOUTIQUE, AND IT'S FOR ITS OFFICIAL SIGNAGE, IT'S WALL SIGN AND HANGING SIGNS ON THE BUILDING.
TURNED OUT VERY NICE IF YOU DRIVE BY THERE.
THE OWNER OF THAT IS TRACY TERRELL, WHO'S THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF MAYOR PERKLE.
CA 24-52 FOR 215 EAST WALL STREET, THIS IS THE NEW CONSTRUCTION HOUSE THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY RONNIE PARKS AND BOB GREEN, AND THIS IS FOR THE PAINT COLOR SCHEME, AND ALSO THE FRONT DOOR IN THE FENCE.
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THEN THIS IS THE LAST ONE, IT IS CA 21-53 FOR 525 EAST WORTH STREET AND LET'S SEE.OH, YES, THIS IS FOR WORKING ON THE LANDSCAPE IN THE FRONT YARD, VERY NICE STONE EDGING.
THAT COMPLETES THE STAFF APPROVED CA.
THE REASON YOU HAVE SO MANY IS BECAUSE WE HAD ONE CANCELED MEETING, SO WE HAVE THESE, AND WE EVEN HAVE MORE FOR NEXT TIME.
WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE THIS MANY NEXT TIME LIMIT IT TO 10 PER MEETING.
TAKES DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 4, THE PUBLIC HEARING,
[4.A. Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness #CA24-60 for property located at 860 East Hudgins Street, legally described Dooley, William Survey, Abstract 432, Tract 65, City of Grapevine and take any necessary action. ]
AND A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION REGARDING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA DURING THE COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION OF THE ITEM BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIRMAN OR BY CONSENT OF THE COMMISSION.UPON BEING RECOGNIZED, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM, MICROPHONE, AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS BEFORE SPEAKING.
AGAIN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE COMMISSION IS RESTRICTED IN DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION DURING CIS AND COMMENTS.
I'LL NOW DECLARE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH OUR FIRST CASE CA 24-60.
>> THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TURNED IN BY PAUL MCCALLUM OF THE GRAPEVINE CONVENTION VISITORS BUREAU.
IT'S TO CONSTRUCT A NEW, IT'S ACTUALLY EIGHT FOOT.
THERE'S A TYPO IN YOUR MEMO, IT IS AN EIGHT FOOT HIGH CORRUGATED METAL FENCE.
>> IS A TEXAS TRAIL OF FAME INDUCTEE PAUL?
>> IF YOU LOOK HERE ON THE SCREEN, THERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF JUST A VIEW ALONG THAT SIDE.
IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST HUDGENS STREET.
THIS WOULD PROVIDE A VISUAL SCREEN TO THE EXISTING RAIL TRACK.
IF YOU CAN SEE THE TRAIN CARS IN THE BACK.
EXCUSE ME. IT WOULD BE BUILT NEAR TO THE STREET, ABOUT 10 FEET BACK FROM THE STREET IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
WE HAVE A LOCATION SHOWING HERE OF WHERE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE CONSTRUCTED.
IT GOES PRETTY MUCH FROM THE HISTORIC MCPHERSON BARN FROM 1850 THAT WE HAVE RELOCATED THERE FROM ABOUT RIGHT THERE ON DOWN TO THE DRIVEWAY AT THREE I THINK IT WAS 65 EAST COLLEGE STREET.
IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT, BUT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE IT GOES.
IT WOULD HAVE A 210 FOOT ACCESS GATES THAT SWING THAT OPEN IN ORDER TO ALLOW ACCESS INTO THE SPACE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THIS WILL DO, I THINK MR. MCCALLUM CAN ADD FURTHER EXPLANATION FOR THIS IF YOU NEED IT, BUT IT WILL GIVE YOU A VISUAL BREAK BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, THE STREET, AND TO THE RAIL YARD.
NOW I'LL MOVE ON HERE IS AN IMAGE OF THE TYPE FENCE IT WOULD BE.
IT'S A NICE, APPROPRIATE FENCE THAT YOU MIGHT FIND IN AN AREA LIKE THIS.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING FOR THIS TO BE INSTALLED AND IT WOULD BE EIGHT FEET HIGH, NOT SEVEN, AS IT SAYS IN THE MEMO.
EARLY INFORMATION I HAD SAID IT WAS SEVEN, BUT IT WAS REALLY EIGHT, SO WE DO WANT IT TO BE EIGHT.
THE LENGTH OF THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 376 FEET LONG ALONG THAT NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AND IT GOES PRETTY MUCH FROM THE MCPHERSON BARN ALL THE WAY UP TO WITH A DOUBLE GATE IN THE MIDDLE AND ALL THE WAY UP TO THAT POINT THAT YOU SEE IN THE IN THAT DIAGRAM.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT, THE CONCEPT OF THIS PROJECT.
I THINK MAYBE MR. MCCALLUM HAS SOME COMMENTS HE'D LIKE TO PRESENT.
>> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. PETER MCCALLUM, 01,800 WEST WALL, HERE IN GRAPEVINE, TEXAS, CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.
[LAUGHTER] THIS IS ACTUALLY THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY HERE HAS BEEN A RAIL YARD SINCE 1888.
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IT'S PART OF THE ORIGINAL COTTON BELT DEPOT.ALSO, SOME OF THE ACTUAL COTTON DOCKS WENT INTO SOME OF THAT AREA.
AS DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES ALONG EAST HUDGENS, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO SHIELD THE RAIL YARD, IF YOU WILL, GIVEN THE FACT THAT GRAPEVINE VINAGE RAIL ROAD IS PRETTY MUCH ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT IS OVER 100-YEARS-OLD.
THINGS AREN'T READILY AVAILABLE SO WE DO HAVE TO KEEP A SUPPLY AROUND OF DONOR POTS FROM OLD EQUIPMENT, ETC THAT IS NOT ABLE TO BE USED, BUT POTS FROM IT THAT WE CAN TAKE TO KEEP OUR OWN STUFF FUNCTIONING AND SO ON.
IT CAN GET A LITTLE UNSIGHTLY AT TIME.
JUST REALLY OUT OF RESPECT FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND SUCH THERE, WE'D LIKE TO PUT THIS SCREENING FENCE.
IT IS CORRUGATED METAL BECAUSE THE COTTON BELT NATIONAL REGISTER RAILROAD DISTRICT, ACTUALLY, MANY OF THE STRUCTURES ARE CORRUGATED METAL.
THAT WAS THE PURPOSE BEHIND CHOOSING CORRUGATED METAL THERE TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE THEME OF THE RAILROAD DISTRICT.
AT EIGHT FEET, IT ONLY REALLY STILL SCREENS WHAT IS ON THE GROUND RIGHT THERE BECAUSE THE ACTUAL ROAD BED GOES UP.
IF WE HAVE THINGS ON THE STORAGE TRACK, THEY'LL BE AT LEAST FROM ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY UP, THEY'LL STILL BE VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD AND TO THE NEIGHBORS.
BUT CERTAINLY ALL OF THE VARIOUS PARTS AND PIECES AND SUCH, EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT WILL BE SCREENED FROM WHAT'S THERE.
THEN THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THE BENEFIT FROM WE MOVED INSIDE OUR PROPERTY LINE.
THE PURPOSE BEING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CREATE SOME PARALLEL PARKING SPACES ALONG THERE BECAUSE AGAIN, THE EVENTS OF THE RAILROAD ARE SO SUCCESSFUL THAT EVERY PARKING SPACE THAT WE CAN ADD IS A BENEFIT TO SOME LITTLE FAMILY.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE MORE THAN GLAD TO ANSWER.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WHY NOT TAKE IT ALL THE WAY DOWN CLOSER TO DOOLEY.
>> ONE, WE CAN'T STORE ANYTHING DOWN THERE.
IT TAPERS IN VERY RAPIDLY AND SO IT'S EASY TO MOW AND MAINTAIN WHERE WE'VE STOPPED IT.
>> THE REASON I ASKED THAT, I WAS AT THE MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, AND LEMOINE WRIGHT MADE A COMMENT THAT BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HUTCHINS WITH HIS FOUR LOTS THAT HE'S GOT ON TEXAS OR ON COLLEGE STREET? CORRECT. HE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT IT PRETTY UGLY LOOKING OVER THERE OR SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE SAID.
>> I THINK THE PLACE JUST FROM HIM BECAUSE THAT'S ALL MOWED AND MAINTAINED.
THERE'S NOTHING FROM WHERE HE'S ACCESSIBLE.
>> WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THAT PROPERTY DOWN THERE, IT TAPERS IN, AND THE ROAD BED GOES UP SO HIGH SO QUICKLY.
YOU'RE REALLY NOT COVERING UP ANYTHING BUT OTHER THAN A GREAT DIFFICULTY TO MAINTAIN THE GRASS THERE.
>> THEN THE CORRUGATED 10 FENCE WOULD WE EXPECT THAT TO START RUSTING WITHIN THREE OR FOUR YEARS OR?
>> NO, WE WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT DEGREE, WHAT GAUGE, AND HOW WELL IT'S BEEN GALVANIZED, BUT WE HAVE PLENTY OF STRUCTURES AROUND HERE NOW THAT ARE 75 AND 80-YEARS-OLD AND HAVE NOT SHOWN ANY RUST AT ALL ON IT.
IN FACT, ON MY FAMILY'S PLACE, NOT HERE, BUT IN ANOTHER LAND, WE HAVE CORRUGATED METAL BILLS OVER 100-YEARS-OLD THAT DON'T HAVE A PIECE OF RUST ON THEM.
WHAT'S RUSTING NOW IS WHAT YOU GET AT HOME DEPOT AND SUCH AS THAT, AND IT'S PROBABLY RUST BEFORE YOU GET AT HOME.
>> WAS THERE ANY OTHER MATERIAL CONSIDERED? BECAUSE I KNOW ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DOOLEY, GOING UP THE COTTON BELT, YOU HAVE THE POWDER COATED WROUGHT IRON FENCE, WAS THAT CONSIDERED TO MAYBE PUT WOODEN SLATS IN? YOU DO AN EIGHT FOOT.
>> WE DIDN'T CONSIDER ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE DID CONSIDER THE BRICK AND ALSO PRECAST CONCRETE AND THE COST WAS TOO MUCH.
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AS I STATED BEFORE, THIS IS PART OF THE COTTON BELT RAILROAD DISTRICT, AND THE PRIMARY MATERIAL USED IS CORRUGATED METAL.YOU ALWAYS TRY TO USE LIKE METALS IN DISTRICTS WHEN YOU'RE DOING THAT.
>> WILL THIS PREVENT ACCESS TO THE RAILROAD ITSELF OR IS IT.
>> NO. WE HAVE THAT 20 FOOT PAIR OF 10 FOOT GATES THAT SHOULD ALLOW US.
WE PURPOSELY LINED IT UP TO THE DRIVEWAY THERE, SO AS THOUGH WHEN WE DO HAVE LARGE EQUIPMENT THAT HAS TO COME IN THERE, WE CAN PULL INTO THE FORMER PANDA EMBROIDERY AND THEN COME BACK STRAIGHT INTO OUR OWN FACILITY.
>> WILL THERE, FROM THE ACCESS FROM THE EAST, COULD SOMEONE JUST COME AND WALK AROUND THE FENCE?
>> ABSOLUTELY. YES. BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO GO SO CLOSE TO THE RAILROAD TRACK AND SO IT'S A MATTER OF IT'S NOT MEANT AS A SECURITY FENCE.
IT'S REALLY MEANT AS A SCREENING FENCE. YEAH.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> MOVE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THANK YOU, MARGARET. SECOND.
>> THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. COMMENTS.
>> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS CA 24-60.
>> THANK YOU, LADIES. TAKE A PIT, CASEY.
ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
THANK YOU PW. THANK YOU, DAVID.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT. ALL RIGHT.
[5.A. Commission to hold a Workshop on a proposed Grapevine Pattern Book of Principles and Standards for Continuity with History for the Grapevine Historic Township. ]
WHICH IS WORKSHOP ON THE GRAVEN PATTERN BOOK. DAVID.>> I'M JUST GOING TO WALK US THROUGH THIS.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS TODAY IS JUST TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL LOOK AT WHAT THE PURPOSE AND THE INTENTION OF THE PATTERN BOOK.
MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD US TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR QUITE SOME TIME BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING MORE THAN A YEAR AND A HALF ON THIS BOOK, BUT NOT SO MUCH TO BRING IT OUT.
YET, BUT JUST TELL YOU ABOUT IT.
I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT TODAY AND WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE FEATURES OF WHAT IT WOULD DO.
WE INTEND THAT IT WOULD BE ADOPTED BY THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE AT COUNCIL AS ADDED TO OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.
IT WOULD ADD NEW FEATURES TO THE ORDINANCE.
ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH IN THIS BOOK.
THE CONSULTANT FOR THIS IS HAVE BEEN ARCHITECTS.
TWO OF THE PRINCIPALS OVER THERE, WE HAVE CRAIG MELDI AND THEN WE HAVE ROBIN MCCAFFREY.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF WHAT WOULD BE THIS BOOK TO GIVE GUIDANCE AND SOME DIRECTION AND HELP FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE COMING INTO THE TOWNSHIP AND WANT TO ADD ON TO HISTORIC HOMES AND BUILDINGS, AND ALSO WORK WITH STAFF.
IT'S AN ADDITIONAL HELP TO GUIDE YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAKING THE NEW PIECES HAVE CONTINUITY WITH WHAT WAS HERE.
THE NAME OF THE BOOK IS THE PATTERN BOOK, PRINCIPLES AND STANDARDS OF CONTINUITY WITH HISTORY.
THIS BOOK WOULD BE ADOPTED AND WOULD PROVIDE GUIDANCE FOR PROPERTIES IN THE HISTORIC TOWNSHIP.
LANDMARK PROPERTIES AND PROPERTIES IN THE TOWNSHIP.
HERE, AGAIN, IS OUR HISTORIC TOWNSHIP INSIDE THE GOAL BOUNDARY THERE.
THIS WOULD ALSO APPLY TO LIKE THE DE BOX EDITION, WHICH IS AN EXPANSION OF THAT ORIGINAL AREA.
I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH. I PREPARED SOME COMMENTS HERE.
I'M GOING TO WALK US THROUGH THIS.
STARTING BACK WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE HERE IN GRAPEVINE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 1992, AND THEN THE UPDATE TO THE ORDINANCE WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2013, THESE ORDINANCES DEFINE WHAT CAN BE BUILT AND EXPANDED WITHIN THE ORIGINAL GRAPEVINE HISTORIC TOWNSHIP.
ESTABLISHED IN 1998, THE HISTORIC TOWNSHIP BOUNDARY INCLUDES THE FOOTPRINT OF THE ORIGINAL TOWN OF GRAPEVINE.
IF YOU LOOK AT AERIAL VIEWS OF THE AREA, ALL THE BUILDINGS WERE IN THIS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IN THIS GOLD BOUNDARY.
INSIDE OF THERE, THERE ARE 550 PROPERTIES INSIDE THAT BOUNDARY,
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330 OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.OVER HALF OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE LANDMARKED.
NO STRUCTURES IN THE HISTORIC TOWNSHIP BOUNDARY CAN BE DEMOLISHED WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
NEXT HERE, MOVING FORWARD, THIS PRESERVATION UPDATE IN 2013, I'LL SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.
THE 2013 UPDATE WHILE PREVENTING TALL SIDEWALLS FROM LOOMING OVER ADJACENT ORIGINAL STRUCTURES.
THIS ALSO CREATED NEW HOMES THAT HAD FRONT FACING GABLES.
I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.
THAT ARE PERPENDICULAR TO THE STREET.
THIS PATTERN THAT THIS ORDINANCE PUT INTO PLACE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES THAT WERE HERE IN THE TOWNSHIP.
HERE ON YOUR LEFT IS A SIDE YARD SETBACK PLANE, AND THAT DIAGRAM IS SHOWING YOU THAT'D BE LIKE A TYPICAL LOT, AND THE RED DOTTED LINE INSIDE, THAT'S THE BUILDABLE ENVELOPE OF A RECTANGULAR LOT, WHICH WE HAVE WE HAVE 230 OF THESE RECTANGULAR LOTS IN THE TOWNSHIP.
THE ORDINANCE NOW ALLOWS AND THESE ARE 7.5 ZONING.
YOU SET BACK IN THE FRONT FEET FROM THE SIDES AT SIX FEET, FROM THE REAR AT SIX FEET.
BUT IF YOU HAVE LIVING SPACE, LIVING SPACE HAS TO BE 25 FEET FROM THE REAR.
YOU REALLY JUST HAVE THAT LITTLE CENTER BOX IN THE MIDDLE THAT CAN BE YOUR MAIN PRINCIPAL RESIDENCE.
YOU COULD HAVE A DETACHED TWO CAR GARAGE IN THAT FAR BACK SECTION.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE IT SAYS STREET ELEVATION, YOU SEE THIS LIKE A SCHOOL LIKE A LITTLE CHILD'S DRAWING OF A DIAGRAM OF HOUSE.
YOU HAVE TO PLACE THE ENTIRE MASS INSIDE OF THIS ACCORDING TO OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE.
ON THE RIGHT, THESE ARE JUST SOME DIAGRAMMATIC VIEWS OF SOME OF THE HOUSES THAT ARE IN THE TOWNSHIP THAT WERE GENERATED BECAUSE OF THIS 2013 ORDINANCE.
WE ENDED UP GETTING QUITE A FEW OF THESE HOUSES.
THIS IS THE IDEA OF SHOWING THIS IS JUST SAY, LOOK, WE'RE GETTING A WHOLE BUNCH OF THESE, AND THAT'S REALLY NOT THE PATTERN THAT WAS THE TOWNSHIP, SO IT WAS THE PRODUCT OF THIS.
THIS IS WHAT THE HOUSES WERE ACTUALLY LIKE, WHERE THE GABLES AND THE RIDGES WERE TURNED PARALLEL TO THE STREET.
THIS IS YOUR TYPICAL HOMES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE TOWNSHIP.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET BACK TO THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
THAT'S A THING THAT DEVELOPED.
THEN WE ALSO, AT THAT TIME, WITH THE ORDINANCE LIMITED THE MAXIMUM SIZE TO 3,400, THAT MAXIMUM SIZE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE TO 3,400.
THIS PATTERN BOOK WOULD ALLOW IN SOME CASES, WHERE YOU HAVE A SECOND FLOOR FOR YOU TO HAVE FULL HEIGHT ROOMS ON THE SECOND FLOOR, BUT IT'S LIMITED AND YOU'D HAVE SOME STEP BACKS AND SETBACKS.
IT DIDN'T JUST OVERWHELM THE LOT AGAIN, WITH TWO STORY WALLS ALL THE WAY DOWN, YOU CAN COME BACK ABOUT 16 FEET AND THEN BACK IN AND THEN GO FURTHER DOWN AND COME BACK OUT.
YOU COULD ACTUALLY HAVE FULL HEIGHT ROOM.
YOU COULD GET LIKELY THREE VERY NICE FULL HEIGHT ROOMS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, THOSE ROOMS ARE IN THE CENTER OF THAT BIG MASSIVE ROOF AND THEN YOU HAVE DORMERS THAT ARE PROJECTING OUT.
WE'RE SEEKING TO FIND A WAY SO WE'RE NOT LIMITED TO THAT.
YOU CAN STILL BUILD THAT WAY, BUT WE'RE NOT LIMITED TO THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GOING TOWARD.
THIS IS THE COVER OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND IT SHOWS THE BUILDINGS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THESE BUILDINGS THAT WERE IN OUR TOWNSHIP.
APPLYING THE PATTERN BOOK, BY ADOPTING THIS, YOU'D BE ADOPTING A SPECIFIC SET OF STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE AND WOULD ALLOW FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION TO MEET MODERN NEEDS WHILE FOLLOWING THE STYLES THAT WERE PRESENT IN THE ORIGINAL TOWNSHIP.
THESE ARE THE FOUR BASIC STYLES.
NOW, THESE DATES, THESE WERE THE DATES OF THE PRAIRIE STYLE.
THAT'S NOT THE DATES OF THE HOUSES IN OUR TOWNSHIP, BUT PRAIRIE STYLES, 1900-1920, ARTS AND CRAFTS, BUNGALOW, 1920-1930, QUEEN ANNE VICTORIAN 1880S-1910S AND GREEK REVIVAL.
THAT'S AN EARLIER PERIOD BUILDING, BUT PEOPLE WERE STILL BUILDING THEM BECAUSE PEOPLE GREW UP OTHER PLACES WITH THOSE IDEAS AND WHEN THEY CAME TO GRAPEVINE OR WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING,
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THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE PARENTS HOUSE OR THE GRANDPARENTS' HOUSE.THEY WERE STILL BUILDING GREAT REVIVAL, THEY ARE AWESOME.
THE PATTERN BOOK SETS UP SOME STEPS TOWARD HOW YOU ACHIEVE YOUR DESIGN.
THERE'S SIX STEPS TO DEVELOPING A DESIGN.
LET SAY YOU HAD A LOT THAT WAS EMPTY AND YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD.
YOU'D IDENTIFY YOUR BUILDING SPACE, YOU'D IDENTIFY THE ENVELOPE OF WHICH YOU HAVE THERE TO WORK LIKE WHAT'S OUT IN THE FRONT YARD, WHAT'S IN THE BACK, WHAT'S AROUND IT? YOU'D COMPOSE A BUILDING FORM.
I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOME SECTIONS ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
YOU'D COMPOSE THE FACADE ARTICULATION.
YOU'D SELECT ONE OF THOSE STYLES AND MAKE ALL YOUR DETAILS ALONG THOSE STYLES.
THEN YOU'D ESTABLISH WHAT THE EXPRESSION OF THAT IS, AND THEN YOU WOULD INCORPORATE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS, WHICH ARE ALSO IN THIS PATTERN BOOK.
HERE'S SOME EXAMPLE, SOME PAGES OUT OF IT AS AN EXAMPLE.
THIS IDENTITY OF THIS ONE THAT YOU SEE THERE, WHICH WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE STEWART HOUSE, THAT'S THE PRAIRIE STYLE.
THEN THERE'S COMPONENTS OF THE PRAIRIE STYLE ON THAT PARTICULAR STRUCTURE LIKE IT HAS A MASSIVE VOLUME IN THE CENTER, AND THEN OTHER THINGS THAT COME OUT FROM IT, LIKE WRAP AROUND PORCHES, PROJECTING BAYS, OTHER CHIMNEYS AND THINGS TO MAKE IT INTERESTING.
>> ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THAT IS ANOTHER ASPECT OF WHAT'S HERE.
IT'S CREATING MORE DESIGN FLEXIBILITY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LITTLE AXONOMETRIC DRAWING THAT YOU SEE, IT LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE AND A CURVE PORCH IN THE FRONT.
YOU CAN SEE HOW IT HAS PROJECTING OUT PARTS, SO YOU GET IN THE FRONT, YOU GET A PROJECTING ROOM, ON THE SIDE, YOU GET A PROJECTING ROOM, YOU GO ON BACK, AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME OTHER PROJECTING ROOMS. BUT IT'S GOING TO CREATE AN INTERESTING ARTICULATED FORM.
INSTEAD OF ONE LARGE MASS, YOU'LL HAVE THESE PARTS COMING OUT AND THEN THEY GIVE YOU THE FULL HEIGHT ROOM.
BUT IT'S NOT JUST A FULL HEIGHT THE BIG BOX.
HERE'S SOME OTHER EXAMPLES LIKE WHERE YOU HAVE REPETITIVE LOTS, HOW THAT BEGINS TO LOOK, AND CREATING CONTINUITY THERE.
WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE ZONES THAT ARE THERE OUT IN THE FRONT.
YOU HAVE THE ZONE WHERE YOU WALK UP, THE ZONE, WHICH IS YOUR OPEN FRONT LAWN AREA, THEN THAT YELLOW ZONE THAT'S BEHIND IS WHERE YOU HAVE PORCHES AND THINGS.
THESE ARE SOME PRINCIPLES THAT YOU CAN USE TO MAKE YOUR HOUSE MUCH MORE INTERESTING.
THEN THERE'S FIVE ELEMENTS OF COMPOSING THE BUILDING FORM.
INSTEAD OF TAKING A ENVELOPE AND DRAWING YOUR FLOOR PLAN AND THEN JUST STICKING FACADES ON IT, YOU GO, OKAY, THE CENTER OF IT IS MY BIG LIVING ROOM.
MAYBE I HAVE A TWO STORY VOLUME THAT'S THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR, AND THEN AROUND IT OUT, THE DINING ROOM PROJECTS OUT, THE PORCHES PROJECT OUT, SOMETHING ELSE, AND THEN ON THE SECOND FLOOR, THERE'S PROJECTING OUT.
THIS SHOWS YOU HOW TO COMPOSE IT.
BUT THERE'S MORE INFORMATION IN HERE.
I'M JUST SHOWING YOU LIKE A LITTLE SAMPLE OF HOW THIS WOULD WORK.
THE FIVE ELEMENTS ARE PRIMARY MASS, ADJUNCT MASS, SUB MASS, ACCESSORY MASS, ENGAGED MASS.
THEN WALLS AND WALL OPENINGS ARE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT.
THE WALL OPENINGS REALLY NEED TO CONFORM TO THOSE HISTORIC STYLES.
LIKE UP ON THE TOP RIGHT OF THAT LITTLE DIAGRAM, YOU SEE THAT FUNNY LITTLE SLOT WINDOW WHERE YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY OF THESE LITTLE FUNNY SLOT WINDOWS.
YOU'D HAVE IT MORE LIKE WHERE IT SAYS, YES, AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE IT LIKE THAT ONE ON THE LEFT, NO, WHERE YOU BROUGHT A WINDOW WAY OUT TO THE END.
IT'S A CONTEMPORARY WAY OF DOING, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE PATTERN BOOK TO THE STANDARDS WILL HELP YOU ACHIEVE ONE OF THE ORIGINAL STYLES THAT WE HAD HERE IN RAVEN.
ALSO, THEN THE WINDOW DETAILS, WINDOWS WOULD NO LONGER BE LIKE SOME OF THE BUILDING TECHNOLOGY TODAY, YOU BUY A WINDOW AND YOU STICK IT ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND HAS NAILING STRIPS, AND THEN YOU PUT TRIM AROUND IT.
WELL, IT WOULDN'T BE THAT TYPE OF WINDOW.
THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC AREA.
THERE WERE WINDOW SILLS, SO THE WINDOWS ARE SET BACK.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWING, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THERE WAS A DIFFERENT DESIGN SETBACK.
YOU'D BE SELECTING YOUR STYLE OF YOUR BUILDING AND THEN WORKING WITH THAT. HERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
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THERE'S A NUMBER OF DRAWINGS AND DETAILS TALKING ABOUT LIKE CHIMNEY CAPS.WE'D LOOK FOR CHIMNEY CAPS THAT FIT THE PERIOD OF THE STYLE, NOT JUST A BOX WITH SIDING ON IT AND A PIPE COMING OUT.
YOU'LL NEED TO WORK ON SOME DETAILS, WHICH THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF WHAT TO DO INSIDE THERE.
IT REQUIRES APPROPRIATE DETAIL STYLES TO FIT THE STYLE OF BUILDING.
I KNOW PROBABLY I'M NOT REALLY SHOWING YOU THE BOOK, BUT THOSE ARE WHAT THE BOOK COVERS.
THESE ARE ITEMS THAT THE BOOK COVERS NOT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THERE, BUT IT'S QUITE A BIT IN THERE.
BACK TO ONE OTHER IMPORTANT POINT.
I THINK I TOUCHED ON THIS, BUT THE PATTERN BOOK, AS I MENTIONED, FOR SECOND FLOORS, YOU'D BE ABLE TO HAVE DEPENDING ON YOUR LOT SIZE, SAY THAT THE LOT ALLOWED YOU TO HAVE UP TO ABOUT 3,400 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE.
WELL, WITH THIS ABILITY TO BUILD OUT BEYOND THAT SIDE YARD SETBACK, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE A HOUSE BIGGER THAN 3,400, MAYBE LIKE 3,600, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE LOT IN THAT RATIO.
YOU COULD GET BIGGER, MAYBE EVEN UP TO 3,800.
THE SIZE OF THE LOTS AND WHAT THESE STYLE REQUIREMENTS ARE, YOU'RE PICKING A STYLE, YOU'RE WORKING WITH IT.
IT STILL WOULD HELP TEMPER THAT SIZE OF THE BUILDING, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE SOMETHING BIGGER THAN 34.
BY LOOKING AT IT, WHEN YOU TRY TO TAKE YOUR LOT, APPLY THE STANDARDS TO IT, IT ENDS UP SHOWING YOU THE EXTENT OF IT IS THAT YOU COULD DO, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE GENEROUS THAN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
ANYWAY, WHAT WOULD BE OUR NEXT STEPS FOR THIS? THIS IS JUST A BRIEF TOUCHING ON EVERYTHING ABOUT THE BOOK.
OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE I HAVE WORK WITH BRUNO AND PW AND HAVE A WORKSHOP WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, AT WHICH TIME WE'LL BRING OUT A COPY OF THE BOOK AT THIS POINT, THE DRAFT OF THE BOOK AND SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT IF THERE NEEDS ANY CHANGES.
WE BRING THAT, MAKE THOSE ANY TWEAKS OR WHATEVER TO IT, BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR TO TAKE A LOOK AT CONSIDERATION, AND THEN ULTIMATELY TAKE IT FORWARD TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND ADOPTION TO THE APPENDIX G. THIS WOULD BE ADDED TO APPENDIX G, AND IT DOES GIVE YOU AND THERE'S MORE THINGS I PROBABLY HAVEN'T TOUCHED ON EVERYTHING, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW ABOUT IT TODAY.
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THIS WILL NOT BE YOUR ONLY TIME.
>> WELL, I LIKE THE IDEA OF YOU NOT BEING LIMITED TO SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE YOUR HOME ARCHITECTURALLY BASED, AND IT'S STILL IN KEEPING WITH THE TIME PERIOD.
I JUST FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU'RE LIMITED TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH THE SAME STYLE OF HOME THROUGHOUT, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR LOTS ARE 50 FEET WIDE, SO THAT'S WHERE I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'LL END UP WITH THE SAME STYLE OF HOME.
I LIKE THAT IDEA OF IT BEING ARCHITECTURALLY BASED.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS REAL QUICK.
THE FOUR PICTURES YOU HAD UP THERE OF THE FOUR DIFFERENT STYLES?
>> THREE OF THEM WERE ON MUCH BIGGER FRONTAGE LOTS.
CERTAINLY, TWO OF THEM WERE ON COLLEGE STREET, AND SOME OF OUR BIGGEST HOUSES.
> THAT'S NOT ALL THE EXAMPLES. THOSE ARE SOME.
>> BECAUSE THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD FIT A RECTANGLE WAS THE ONE THE GREEK REVIVAL THING THAT, AND SO EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE A GREEK REVIVAL.
>> THAT'S JUST SOME OF THE EXAMPLES.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO SHOW YOU, THOSE ARE THE FOUR STYLES, BUT NOT THE FOUR HOUSES.
THE HOUSES AREN'T BASED ON THOSE.
>> AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE WOULD DO AWAY.
>> THERE'S MORE INFORMATION IN THE BOOK ABOUT THAT.
>> THERE'S DIFFERENT VARIANTS OF THAT.
>> I JUST TRY TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE STYLE WILL LOOK LIKE.
>> THE OTHER WOULD WE DO AWAY WITH THE KEEPING THE FIRST FRONT FOR FEET OF SOME OF THESE KID HOMES AND STUFF THAT WERE PUT TOGETHER IN THE 40S?
>> WELL, THIS GROUP DEPEND IN THIS MEETING HERE IN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, THEY DETERMINE WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE REMOVED FROM ANY PROPERTY.
THEY'D HAVE TO BE TAKEN ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
>> BUT PEOPLE WOULD COME TO YOU AND YOU'D SAY, HERE'S YOUR PATTERN BOOK.
>> WE'D WORK WITH THE PATTERN BOOK, WE'D WORK WITH THEM, BUT THEN WE ALL ARE STILL APPROVING THE PLANS.
WE TRY TO FOLLOW THE SPIRIT OF THE PATTERN BOOK.
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THE STAFF WOULD WORK WITH THE PATTERN BOOK AND WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND THEY WOULD FIRST HAVE TO COME UP WORKING WITH THEIR ARCHITECTS FROM THIS INFORMATION.THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION IN THE BOOK THAT HELPS THEM PREPARE SOMETHING THAT WOULD MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
THEN THAT'S WHAT WE BRING TO YOU TO ME TO MEET.
>> BUT THAT WOULD ELIMINATE SOME OF THOSE JUST KID HOMES IN THE FUTURE.
>> OH, YOU MEAN LIKE THE CAMERON HOMES?
>> CAMERON HOMES AND THE SEARS AND ROEBUCK KIT HOMES AND THOSE TYPE OF.
ARE YOU VERY BASIC HAVE A TINY LITTLE PORCH ON THEM?
>> I THINK I'M HEARING WHAT DAVID YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU'RE RESTRICTED ONLY TO THE PATTERN BOOK, WHICH WOULD NOT ALLOW.
>> NO, YOU'RE NOT RESTRICTED ONLY TO THE PATTERN OF THE BOOK.
>> THEREFORE, IF YOU WANTED TO BUILD A CAMERON HOME, YOU COULD STILL TO BUILD A CAMERON HOME.
>> YEAH. YOU CAN STILL BUILD A CAMERON HOME.
>> WELL, I WAS GOING THE OTHER WAY.
I CAN'T IMAGINE IF I HAVE THESE OTHER CHOICES.[OVERLAPPING]
>> SORRY. I BELIEVE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WOULD YOU'D SEE MORE OF THESE HOUSES THAT ARE FULLY DEVELOPED WITH MUCH MORE INTEREST BUILT IN A CERTAIN STYLE, AND PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE COPYING THOSE.
>> WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO AWAY WITH THE CAMERON HOMES.
>> IT WOULD BE AN OPTION UNDER THIS SITUATION.
>> THIS BODY PRESERVES ALL EXISTING BUILDINGS.
ALL EXISTING BUILDINGS WILL STILL BE PRESERVED.
BUT THIS WOULD BE LIKE WHERE YOU'RE ADDING ON TO SOMETHING LIKE SAY YOU DID HAVE A GREEK REVIVAL HOUSE AND YOU'RE ADDING ONTO IT AS SHOWING YOU HOW TO DO THAT.
IF YOU HAD A CAMERON HOME, YOU'RE PROBABLY STILL GOING TO BUILD IN A CAMERON WAY ON IT, AND SO FORTH.
I DIDN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE THOSE HOUSES.
THOSE ARE HERE TO STAY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY THE ONES THAT ARE ALL LANDMARKED.
ALL OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTING TO OUR NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THERE'S ABOUT 40 OF THOSE STRUCTURES IN THE HISTORIC TOWNSHIP.
>> WELL, THIS IS ALSO MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE LOTS.
>> YES. YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE SOME JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY WHICH THEY'RE LOVELY HOMES.
THE NEW HOMES ON FRANKLIN STREET, BUT YOU'RE LIMITED WITH THAT STYLE BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH OF THOSE LOTS, BUT THIS IS ALLOWING YOU TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST WITH THE HOMES.
>> ALSO AS AN EXAMPLE, THE WINERIES, ALLOWING FOR FOUR NEW LOTS, THE FORMER SIDE OF THE WINERY, SO YOU COULD TAKE HOLD OF THIS PATTERN BOOK AND GO TO TOWN WITH DEVELOPING, IF YOU LIKED ONE OF THOSE FOUR STYLES, YOU COULD WORK WITH THAT, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT, WHICH WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO, OR THE LOTS THAT OR THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS BEING REMOVED, COULD USE THIS PATTERN BOOK ON THOSE LOTS AND SO FORTH, SO ON.
WE DO HOPE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD VERY SOON AND JUST NEED SOME REVIEW FROM THE COUNCIL, MAKE SURE THEY LIKE THE IDEA OF ALL OF IT, AND THEN WE'LL BE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD AS ASAP.
>> I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION. HAVE THE BUILDERS AND ARCHITECTS THAT ARE TYPICALLY IN THIS AREA DOING WORK HERE, HAVE THEY BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS?
>> WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO THEM OR STAFF HAS INDIVIDUALLY TELLING THEM ABOUT THE COMING OF THE PATTERN BOOK AND WHAT THE INTENT IS OF IT.
IS TO TRY TO GIVE THEM BETTER GUIDANCE ABOUT WHAT TO DO.
WHAT WOULD THE CITY REALLY LIKE TO HAVE DONE FOR THE BENEFIT OF WHAT'S IN THE TOWNSHIP? WHAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE TOWNSHIP JUST TO BUILD MORE TOWNSHIP AND NOT THINGS THAT ARE NOT THAT THEY HAVE NO CONTINUITY WITH IT.
THIS IS DEVELOPING CONTINUITY WITH WHAT BECAUSE WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN THE TOWNSHIP, BUT THIS IS BUILDING CONTINUITY WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN AN ORDERLY MANNER?
DO WE THINK THAT THESE ARE BECAUSE I THINK PART OF THE THINGS THAT I HEAR SOMETIMES ARE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY RESTRICTIONS WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP.
DO WE THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY AN AMENDMENT OR SOMETHING AND MATHEW CAN GUIDE ME ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS ANOTHER SET OF RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE.
>> LESS THAN RESTRICTIONS, IT'S OPENING UP MORE POSSIBILITY.
>> YES. THAT'S THE INTENT OF IT.
IT'S OPENED UP MORE POSSIBILITY TO GET CLOSER TO WHAT WOULD BE VERY APPROPRIATE.
BUILDING THIS WAY, IT'S LIKE BUILDING THE WAY, LIKE THEY USED TO BUILD, BUT THEY ARE USING MODERN STANDARDS AND MODERN MATERIALS, AND SO ON, IN MANY OF THE CASES.
BUT WHERE IT'S BUILDING THINGS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WHAT COMES IN NEW BE QUITE APPROPRIATE TO WHAT WAS HERE.
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>> I JUST WANTED TO SHINE IN REAL QUICK.
>> I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS PATTERN BOOK FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND I JUST VIEW IT AS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL FOR HOMEOWNERS.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL FOR HOME BUILDERS, AS I'M LOOKING AT NEIL COOPER OVER THERE.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO FREE HIM UP.
I THINK WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE SAME SAME.
I THINK LESS RESTRICTIONS ARE GOING TO BE BETTER, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH A BETTER PRODUCT, AND EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE HAPPY.
WE DIDN'T DO THIS FOR MORE RESTRICTIONS.
THANKS FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS DAVE AND STAFF.
>> MOVE DOWN TO OUR MINUTES. YOU'VE SEEN THEM.
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IF ANYBODY HAS ANY CHANGES, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY WITH ANY CHANGES.I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
>> SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? MOTION PASSES.
I'LL DECLARE THIS AUGUST 28 MEETING NOW ADJOURNED.
THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE TONIGHT, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.