2. Conditional Use Permit CU24-41 (Bull Lion Ranch Winery) - City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Anthony C. Tordiglione requesting a conditional use permit to allow the possession, storage, retail sales of on- and off- premise consumption of alcoholic beverages (wine only) and outdoor dining in conjunction with a winery. The subject property is located at 150 West College Street, Suite 318 and is currently zoned “CBD”, Central Business District.

[2. Conditional Use Permit CU24-41 (Bull Lion Ranch Winery) - City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Anthony C. Tordiglione requesting a conditional use permit to allow the possession, storage, retail sales of on- and off- premise consumption of alcoholic beverages (wine only) and outdoor dining in conjunction with a winery. The subject property is located at 150 West College Street, Suite 318 and is currently zoned “CBD”, Central Business District. ]

MY WIFE AND I OWN PROPERTY AT 507 CHURCH STREET.

WE GOT NOTICE THAT WE WERE WITHIN 200FT, SO I'M ABSTAINING.

MAYOR PRO TEM WILL HANDLE THIS CASE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Q24-41 BULL LION RANCH WINERY.

ERICA MAROHNIC.

GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THIS REQUEST IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE POSSESSION, STORAGE, RETAIL SALE AND ON AND OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, WINE ONLY, AND OUTDOOR DINING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE WINERY.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 7/10 OF AN ACRE AND LOCATED AT 150 WEST COLLEGE STREET.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED CBD CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND IS DEVELOPED WITH A 17,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO OPEN A WINE TASTING FACILITY IN THE EXISTING SUITE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 150FT².

THE FLOOR PLAN INCLUDES AN OPEN CONCEPT WINE TASTING ROOM WITH WINE BAR, A 212 SQUARE FOOT PRIVATE WINE TASTING ROOM AT THE BACK OF THE SUITE FOR PRIVATE EVENTS, AND AN APPROXIMATELY 108 SQUARE FOOT OUTDOOR DINING DECK OVER THREE EXISTING PARKING SPACES, WHICH REQUIRES THE REMOVAL OF THREE PARKING SPACES ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.

THE TOTAL PROPOSED NUMBER OF SEATS IS 45.

THERE WILL BE 37 INSIDE THE BUILDING AND EIGHT ON THE OUTDOOR DECK AREA.

20 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AS PART OF THIS REQUEST.

THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING FOR ALL 12 TENANTS OF THE BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY IS 156, AND THERE IS AN EXISTING 44 PARKING SPACES ON SITE, WHICH ARE SHARED AMONG ALL OF THE 12 TENANTS OCCUPYING THE EXISTING BUILDING.

THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A PARKING ANALYSIS, WHICH SHOWS A TOTAL OF 545 PARKING SPACES AND 12 PARKING LOTS SURROUNDING SOUTH MAIN STREET. NO OTHER CHANGES ARE PROPOSED WITH THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

THE APPLICANT, MR. CHUCK TORDLEON, IS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT TO YOU AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CAN I DO THIS? OKAY. HI, Y'ALL.

THIS IS MY SECOND TIME TO BE HERE IN FIVE YEARS.

SO SOME OF Y'ALL I KNOW.

I'M ASKING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR FOUR YEARS.

LOVE THAT FILLING STATION.

I'M TELLING YOU, I WISH I COULD STAY THERE, BUT WE KIND OF.

WE BUILT UP A NICE CLIENTELE THERE, BUT THE OWNER WANTS IT TO BE A T SHIRT SHOP AND I THINK A TATTOO PARLOR OR SOMETHING.

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BUT WE WE'RE WE'VE LOST OUR LEASE, SO WE'RE GOING NEXT DOOR.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS ALLOW ME TO HELP MAKE THIS LOOK LIKE A RETAIL SITE, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN AN OFFICE BUILDING SINCE DAY ONE. AND SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE, I BET THAT THING'S CHANGED HANDS FIVE TIMES.

AND SO I WENT OVER AND I SAID, LOOK, I THINK WE CAN MAKE THIS LOOK LIKE A RETAIL SHOP.

AND IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME AT ALL TO BE JUST OFF MAIN STREET A LITTLE BIT.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IT, WITHOUT A DOUBT.

I LOVE BEING ON MAIN STREET.

AND BUT MY ARCHITECT KIND OF WENT A LITTLE ALL OUT WITH THE DECK THERE SHOWING YOU THE DECK, BUT ALL WE'RE ASKING YOU TO, TO ALLOW US TO, TO BUILD A FOUR FOOT CATWALK NEXT TO THE ALREADY SIDEWALK IS THERE, AND THAT GIVES ME ABOUT A TEN FOOT DECK ALL THE WAY ACROSS.

TWO PARKING PLACES.

THAT SHOWS THAT COVERING THREE.

BUT I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT TWO.

CORRECT. DIDN'T WE TALK ABOUT TWO? IS IT THREE? OH, OKAY.

WELL THEN THREE. BUT IT WOULD TURN THOSE PARKING PLACES NOW INTO COMPACT CAR PARKING SPOTS.

THAT'S ALL IT WOULD DO.

I'VE BEEN TOLD ACROSS THE STREET AT THE TIRE SHOP THAT I GET TO USE ALL THAT PARKING I WANT TO AFTER HOURS AFTER 5 OR 6:00.

SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO.

WE TRADE PARKING ALL THE TIME.

WE ALWAYS HAVE.

SO RIGHT NOW I'M ACTUALLY.

I'VE GOT MORE PARKING THAN WHAT I DID WHEN I WAS IN THE OLD FILLING STATION.

BUT AGAIN, I NEED THIS PLACE TO LOOK LIKE A RETAIL CENTER INVITING TO THE PUBLIC.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP PICTURE HERE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

IT JUST LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING.

AND I NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO THE FRONT OF IT.

AND MY ARCHITECT WENT A LITTLE ALL OUT THERE.

I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE LIKE THAT.

BUT IT'S JUST A, IT'S AGAIN, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A CATWALK IS WHAT I'M ASKING.

AND IF YOU ALLOW ME TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD REALLY I'D FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.

I THINK WE COULD DRESS THAT THING UP AND PUT ON SOME GOOSENECK LIGHTING UP ACROSS THERE, JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE RETAIL BUILDINGS ON THE ON THE MAIN STREET.

SO THANK YOU.

AND I'M NOT JUST ANY WINERY HERE ASKING THIS REQUEST.

I'M 11-TIME GOLD MEDAL WINNER AT GRAPE FEST.

I WANTED TO BRING MY MEDALS UP HERE, BUT I JUST DIDN'T HAVE BIG ENOUGH SUITCASE.

ALL RIGHT. SO, I APPRECIATE.

THANK YOU ALL. MR. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, TOO.

WHAT ARE WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS GOING TO.

WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS GOING TO BE AT THIS? WE'RE NORMALLY OPEN TILL ABOUT SEVEN, BUT ON SATURDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY WE'RE OPEN 10 TO 11.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE OUR HOURS FROM WHAT THEY WERE AND PRETTY MUCH WHAT ALL WINERIES ARE ON THE STREET, MAIN STREET.

OKAY. AND ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ANY OUTDOOR SPEAKERS OR MUSIC? ANY MUSIC? ANY MUSIC OR OUTDOOR? NO, MA'AM. IF I CAN'T HAVE THEM, I WON'T HAVE THEM.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

IF I CAN'T HAVE THEM, I WON'T HAVE THEM.

OKAY. YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU'RE LOSING THREE PARKING SPOTS, BUT YOU'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO COMPACT CARS IN FRONT OF THOSE PARKING SPOTS.

RIGHT. YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE DECK IS.

AND IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING LOT LINES.

THAT'S A THAT'S A STANDARD BIG TRUCK PULL IN THERE.

WELL NOW WE'RE JUST TAKING UP FOUR FEET OF THAT.

AND TODAY ALL THE CARS OUT THERE NOWADAYS OUT THERE ARE PRETTY MUCH LARGE ENOUGH TO FIT IN THAT, THAT PARKING PLACE.

SO I DO NOT FEEL LIKE WE'RE REALLY TAKING UP ANY PARKING PLACES HERE.

THIS IS FOR STAFF.

IF YOU DON'T MIND.

WHAT IS GOING.

WHAT KIND OF PARK? WHAT'S THE DISTANCE OF THE PARKING SPACE GOING TO BE LEFT BEHIND THERE? WE GOT THREE. WE'RE TALKING. WE GOT THREE.

SO, IT WILL BE REDUCED FROM THE TYPICAL STALL DEPTH OF 18FT TO EITHER 14FT OR 13FT.

AND WE DO NOT HAVE A COMPACT PARKING STALL STANDARD IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE OR ELSEWHERE IN GRAPEVINE.

EXCELLENT. WHAT DO YOU? AND THIS IS FOR YOU.

I'M SORRY. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO PROTECT THAT DECK FROM PEOPLE ROLLING RIGHT INTO IT? WHAT DO WE DO TO PROTECT IT? YES. I THINK PRETTY MUCH MAYBE PUT UP A LITTLE RAILING LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OR BUMPERS RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT.

YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD TO, WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT LIKE THAT.

THAT WOULD WORK.

I WOULD I HAVEN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT ONE YET, BUT IT PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE THAT DIFFICULT.

NO, IT SHOULDN'T BE DIFFICULT.

BUT WHEN YOU ONCE YOU PUT PROTECTION THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO REDUCE THAT PARKING SPACE EVEN MORE? SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO PARK AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE HANGING OUT ON THE ROAD OR IN THE WALKWAY.

IT WON'T BE.

I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN IT GETS RIGHT DOWN TO IT.

IT WILL NOT BE MORE THAN MORE THAN ABOUT SIX, EIGHT, NINE INCHES OFF THE GROUND.

ANY CHANCE TO REDUCE YOUR DECK SIZE A LITTLE BIT? I BEG YOUR PARDON? ANY CHANCE OF REDUCING YOUR DECK SIZE JUST A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING?

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REDUCING YOUR DECK SIZE A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING, POTENTIALLY.

YEAH. YEAH, EXACTLY.

NO, THERE'S ACTUALLY A RIGHT OF WAY.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT OWNER.

HE DOESN'T OWN THAT WHOLE PARKING LOT.

THERE'S A RIGHT OF WAY RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE.

RIGHT ABOUT AT THE RIGHT, IN THE CENTER OF THAT RED TRUCK.

WE CAN'T. WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME.

RIGHT. I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME WATER LINES IN THERE.

SO WE WERE GOING TO STAY OUT OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY.

ORIGINALLY I WANTED A FULL DECK, THE WHOLE PARKING SPACE, IF I COULD GET IT, YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING ALL OUT, BUT YEAH, I'D ALMOST RATHER SEE THAT, HONESTLY, THAN YOU PUT A DECK RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THREE SPOTS, AND TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO PARK IN FRONT OF IT TO ME WOULD BE A CONCERN JUST AS MUCH.

SO WHAT IT WOULD DO IS JUST HELP US, LIKE I SAID, LOOK LIKE MORE RETAIL.

AND INSTEAD OF THAT FLAT LOOKING OFFICE BUILDING WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT THERE.

AND I'M, YOU KNOW, AS IT IS, I WORRY ABOUT BEING OFF MAIN STREET.

WE'VE BUILT QUITE A CLIENTELE THE LAST FOUR YEARS BEING THERE.

I'M REALLY LIKING WHAT I'VE, WHAT I'VE SEEN.

BUT 90% OF MY BUSINESS HAS BEEN OUTDOOR SEATING, RIGHT? SO IF I DON'T GET A DECK, I GOT A HUNDRED OF 100% INSIDE AND I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF WINDOW THERE.

AND SO, IT JUST CONCERNS ME, YOU KNOW, I FEEL YOU.

I JUST WANT MY FAMILY IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS.

WE'RE JUST A COUPLE DOORS DOWN FROM YOU, I GET IT.

YEAH. I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO HELP THE SITUATION.

AND THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

OKAY, JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES THAT THE ARCHITECT SORT OF WENT ALL OUT, AND THEN YOU SAID YOU MIGHT HAVE A RAILING.

COULD YOU COMMIT TO ACTUALLY HAVING A RAILING? HAVING A WHAT? I'M SORRY.

A RAILING LIKE IN THE PICTURE.

EVEN IF IT'S EVEN IF IT IS A FOOT OFF THE GROUND OR EIGHT INCHES OFF THE GROUND, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF SMALL RAILING THAT'LL KEEP SOMEONE FROM, YOU KNOW, STEPPING OFF OF IT.

ALL RIGHT. AND IT WOULDN'T REALLY I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT NICE TO SIT OUT THERE WITH A CAR, LIKE LITERALLY.

EXACTLY. I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

IT'S BETTER THAN. IT'S BETTER THAN.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF ALL THESE, I'D RATHER BE BACKED OFF MY RETAIL SPOT THAN EVERYTHING PULLED UP STRAIGHT UP AGAINST IT, JUST LIKE YOU SEE AT THE TOP PICTURE.

AND BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP MY VISIBILITY OFF MAIN STREET.

AND I HAD TO LOOK AT THIS SITE HARD, I GOT OUT AND I WALKED UP AND DOWN THE STREET AND I LOOKED OVER THERE JUST LIKE I WAS A SHOPPER.

AND, YOU KNOW, I SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK I CAN MAKE THIS WORK.

GIVEN A FEW, YOU KNOW, GIVEN A FEW THINGS HERE WITH A GOOD SIGNAGE, SOME NICE LIGHTING AND THEN SOMETHING TO KEEP THOSE CARS OFF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

OKAY, ONE MORE QUESTION.

IN THE PAST, YOU'VE HAD LIVE MUSIC.

DO YOU PLAN TO DISCONTINUE THAT OR DOES IT GO INSIDE NOW? OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. YEAH.

WE FIGURED THAT'S GOING TO BE A TOUGHIE.

MAYBE ME OUT THERE SINGING OR SOMETHING, BUT I WON'T HAVE A SPEAKER OR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW? THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, TOO.

IS HOW MUCH THERE'S BEEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT SIDEWALK.

HOW MUCH SIDEWALK IS THERE ACTUALLY THERE? THERE'S ABOUT SIX FEET OFF THE BUILDING.

SIX FEET OF SIDEWALK.

YOU CAN ALMOST SEE IT.

I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THE WHERE THE CARS ARE PARKED, PULLED UP AGAINST IT.

SO IF I HAD ANOTHER FOUR FEET, I GOT A TEN FOOT DECK.

I MEAN, THAT'S A NICE LITTLE DECK.

PUT ABOUT 3 OR 4 TABLES OUT THERE.

AND FOR MRS. MAROHNIC OR THE PARKING SPACES, ARE THEY A FULL 18FT AS DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN.

THEY'RE SHOWN TO BE 18FT IN DEPTH.

IT DOESN'T SHOW ON THE SITE.

PLAN THE DEPTH OF THE SIDEWALK, THE WALKWAY RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, BUT WE BELIEVE IT TO BE 5 TO 6FT.

OKAY. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS, YOU KNOW, PARKING IS SUCH A A NEED IN THE DOWNTOWN, AND I HATE TO SEE US GIVING UP PLACES AND THEN WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING FOR COMPACT CARS, AS YOU SAID.

YES, SIR. AND ABOUT AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER PARKER ASKED ABOUT COULD YOU MAKE THE DECK SMALLER? SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THERE ANYTHING TO DO TO REDUCE THAT SIZE OF THE DECK.

LESS THAN FOUR FEET.

THAT'S. THAT WAS THE THING.

IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S FOUR FEET OUT FROM THE BUILDING.

THAT'S. THAT WOULD BE IT.

NO, IT'S FOUR FEET OUT FROM THE SIDEWALK.

YEAH. YEAH. FOUR FEET OUT FROM THE SIDEWALK.

WELL, BUT IF YOU GOT SIX FEET OF SIDEWALK, IS THERE ANY WAY TO REDUCE THAT, TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE SAFER FOR PARKING? BECAUSE I AGREE, WE THE LENGTH OF THOSE SPACES, PEOPLE MAY BE COMPACT, BUT WE HAVE NO WAY TO ENFORCE THAT.

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AND THEY'RE GOING TO PARK IN THERE AND STICK OUT IN THE ROADWAY I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.

I COULD PUT COMPACT CAR SIGNAGE UP IF I HAD TO.

COMPACT WOULDN'T ENFORCE IT, THOUGH.

NO, I CAN'T ENFORCE IT.

BUT YOU KNOW, REALLY, WHEN IT GETS RIGHT DOWN TO IT THAT'S PARALLEL PARKING ON THE OUTSIDE OF THOSE SPACES.

ALSO, ON THE OUTSIDE OF THOSE SPACES, I'M RIGHT THERE WITH THAT TELEPHONE POLE.

AS YOU SEE. I PARALLEL PARKED THERE A MILLION TIMES.

RIGHT, RIGHT. THE PICTURE OF THAT TELEPHONE POLE.

WE SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU AWAY.

I BEG YOUR PARDON. YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT I HAD? I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH PARKING OVER THERE IN THAT.

IN FACT, I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I WAS HERE, I REMEMBER PARKING WAS AN ISSUE, AND THEY BROUGHT UP WINERIES OR OUR SITUATION, GETTING TO USE THE PARKING GARAGE.

THE FIRST TIME I WAS IN THIS MEETING FIVE YEARS AGO, 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO, AND BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH PARKING OVER THERE AT THAT FILLING STATION EITHER, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING. BUT YOU HAD MORE THAN YOU HAVE NOW.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE RAILING.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A RAILING? LIKE THE WOOD RAILING TO KEEP THE PEOPLE IN, OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A RAILING TO KEEP THE CARS FROM RUNNING UP OVER THAT DECK? PROBABLY BOTH.

THAT'S WHAT I KEEP FALLING OFF THE OFF THAT LITTLE ONE FOOT.

AND THEN KEEP CARS FROM GOING ANY ANY FURTHER? I WOULD THINK WE OUGHT TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S SAFE AND AND STRUCTURALLY CAPABLE OF, YOU KNOW, AND THEN MAYBE FOR THE STAFF COULD WE INSTEAD OF HAVING, INSTEAD OF HAVING THREE COMPACT, COULD WE SLANT THEM AND HAVE TWO FULL.

SO WHAT WE'VE ADVISED IS THAT BY BUILDING THIS DECK FOUR FEET INTO THE PARKING STALL, THEY WOULD LOSE ALL PARKING.

THIS WOULD NOT BE UTILIZED AS THREE PARKING SPACES.

THEY LOSE THE PARKING BECAUSE THE CHANCES OF MORE THAN NOT PEOPLE WOULD BE HANGING THE BACK END OF THEIR VEHICLE, WHATEVER TYPE THAT IS, INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY.

IT'S ALREADY IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT INTO THE TRAVEL LANE.

AND THAT'S OUR CONCERN.

RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? THANKS. NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THE THREE PARKING SPACES.

I KNOW YOU SAID EARLIER YOU'RE AN OUTDOOR BUSINESS.

CORRECT. SO.

BUT YOU'RE CONVERTING TO AN INDOOR BUSINESS.

YEAH. YOU'RE GOING 37 INDOOR SEATS WITH EIGHT OUTDOOR SEATS.

PREVIOUSLY YOU WERE 14 INDOOR AND EIGHT OUTDOOR.

NOW, I PULLED YOUR CASE FROM 2020, AND YOU WERE APPROVED FOR EIGHT SEATS OUTSIDE.

HOW MANY OF YOU THINK YOU HAVE NOW? I DON'T THINK WE WERE EIGHT BACK THEN.

IF THAT WAS, SOMETHING WENT BECAUSE WE HAD 12.

I'M SORRY, TWO FOUR SEAT TABLES AND WAIT FOR.

I'M SORRY 16.

APOLOGIZE 16 FOR FOUR TOPS UNDERNEATH THE OVERHANG.

NOW WE HAVE MORE. PROBABLY NORTH OF 40, WOULDN'T YOU SAY? I KNOW IT IS MORE.

WITHOUT A DOUBT. WE JUST KEPT PEOPLE JUST WANTING TO SIT OUT THERE.

AND THEN I THINK MOST OF YOUR BUSINESS IS PROBABLY WALK UP.

I MEAN, TRAVELING DOWN MAIN STREET, LESS, LESS DRIVING THERE.

MY QUESTION IS, YOU'RE CURRENTLY ASKING FOR EIGHT SEATS ON THIS DECK.

IF YOU DECIDE YOU NEED 16, ARE YOU GOING TO DO 16 OR ARE YOU GOING TO COME BACK TO THE CITY AND ASK FOR MORE SEATING, OR ARE YOU JUST GOING TO DO IT THE REST OF THAT BUILDING? IF BUSINESS GOT REALLY GOOD, I'D COME RIGHT BACK HERE AND SAY, CAN WE BUILD THAT FOUR FOOT DECK ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE FRONT? SO, YOU COME BACK AND ASK FOR PERMISSION VERSUS JUST DOING IT ALL THE WAY ACROSS? I REALLY WOULD, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE THAT.

I MEAN, I'VE BEEN IN CONSTRUCTION MY WHOLE LIFE.

THAT'S ALL I DO. RIGHT NOW, I'M DOING WINE.

ALL RIGHT. BUT I'VE GOT 40 YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN.

THAT BUILDING WOULD LOOK GOOD WITH THAT DECK ACROSS THERE, AND HELP THAT FACADE LOOK MORE LIKE A RETAIL RATHER THAN A PLAIN JANE OFFICE BUILDING THAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

NOW, ALSO, YOU SHOWED SOME DIFFERENT TYPES OF FURNITURE FOR OUTSIDE IN THE PACKET.

IF YOU GET APPROVED, WILL YOU COMMIT TO DOING THAT TYPE OF FURNITURE? I GOT TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT.

OKAY I GOT TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I WAS HOPING YOU WOULDN'T TAKE WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AND JUST MOVE IT OVER.

NO, I'M THINKING IT MAY BE FOUR TABLES WITH UMBRELLAS.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I ALSO DON'T WANT TO MESS UP MY THAT MY SIGNAGE.

GOTCHA. YOU KNOW, I GOT TO THINK ABOUT ALL THAT.

OKAY. I ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT ONE OF THOSE ELECTRIC AWNINGS.

YOU PRESS A BUTTON, AND ONE OF THOSE AWNINGS COMES OUT ABOUT EIGHT FEET, AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE DONE THAT NIGHT, YOU PRESS A BUTTON.

IT COMES BACK IN.

BECAUSE I BET I'VE BOUGHT 20 UMBRELLAS SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE.

THE WIND UP THERE IN THAT HILL IS THE STRANGEST THING IN THE WORLD.

IN FACT, TONIGHT WE HAD TO ROLL THEM ALL UP BECAUSE THEY JUST GO BLOWING.

WE JUST, IT'S A PRETTY WINDY LITTLE HILL RIGHT THERE.

SO, YEAH, I'D HAVE TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

AND I DON'T THINK IF ANYTHING IT MIGHT BE SOME BARRELS AND SEATING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

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I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

WHEN YOU WERE APPROVED, YOU WERE APPROVED FOR FOUR TABLES.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 10 OR 12 OUT THERE NOW.

YES. AND YOUR TABLES WERE APPROVED TO BE UNDER THE AWNING.

SO YOU'VE MOVED FURTHER.

THAT'S RIGHT. SO THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME WITH WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, PEOPLE MAY DISAGREE WITH THIS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S PARTICULARLY PRETTY THE WAY YOU FENCED IT IN.

AND IT'S GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT A LOT.

LET ME JUST FINISH, PLEASE.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU'RE USING IN ORDER TO YOU'VE GOT TWO PICNIC TABLES, YOU'VE GOT DIFFERENT CHAIRS, YOU'VE GOT A COUCH, YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THERE.

AND I THINK FOR ANY, FOR ME PERSONALLY, FOR ANY IDEA OF HAVING OUTDOOR SEATING, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THE VISUAL THAT YOU PROVIDED IS NICE, AND I WOULD PROBABLY BE OPEN IF THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE, BUT TO LEAVE IT OPEN ENDED FOR YOU TO DO SOMETHING LIKE YOU'VE DONE ON MAIN STREET DOESN'T INTEREST ME AT ALL.

I'M JUST SHARING THAT MY OPINION, I AGREE.

I GOT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I SOME THINGS GOT DICTATED TO ME.

THERE MAY HAVE BEEN OWNER, BUT YOU KNOW EVERY TIME I'D COME OUT THERE I'D HAVE A NEW COUCH OR I'D HAVE SOMETHING NEW, YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT.

WE'RE GETTING MORE PEOPLE OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST KIND OF WENT ALONG WITH THE FLOW.

BUT IT'S ALSO FOLLOWING THE RULES OF THE CITY.

I BEG YOUR PARDON? IT'S ALSO FOLLOWING THE RULES OF THE CITY AND WHAT YOU WERE APPROVED FOR.

YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. AND I THINK THE SMALL DECK I'M ASKING FOR YOU.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND BEYOND THAT.

YOU CAN'T. EXCEPT UNTIL YOU GO DOWN INTO A STEEP PARKING LOT AND.

AND YOU JUST CAN'T DO IT.

YOU CAN'T ENCROACH INTO YOUR OTHER NEIGHBORS OVER HERE.

SO. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS PROBABLY 4 OR 5 IS ALL I'M GOING TO GET IN THERE.

AND THAT'S ALL I'LL EVER BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE.

BUT IT'S 4 OR 5 MORE THAN WHAT I HAVE NOW.

WELL, IF WE'RE EFFECTIVELY LOSING THOSE PARKING SPACES ANYWAY, WHY WOULDN'T YOU BUILD THE DECK FURTHER OUT INSTEAD OF GOING ACROSS AND CHOPPING OFF 3 OR 4 OTHER SPACES? WELL, IT I WAS TRYING TO.

I TRIED TO REACH A HAPPY MEDIUM.

OKAY. BECAUSE THE WATER, THE WATER DEPARTMENT, THEY SAID THAT THAT THERE IS A RIGHT OF WAY THERE.

FAIR ENOUGH. AND THAT OWNER DOES NOT OWN, LIKE I SAID, RIGHT OVER THAT DECK, INTO THAT DECK, AS YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT THERE, PROBABLY ABOUT ANOTHER THREE, FOUR FEET OVER THIS DIRECTION. THERE'S A THERE'S A WATER LINE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'VE BOUGHT MANY, MANY PIECES OF PROPERTY IN MY DAY AND BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T OWN YOUR PARKING LOT.

IT'S HALF YOUR PARKING LOT IS CUT IN HALF.

IT'S JUST KIND OF REALLY A STRANGE SITUATION.

SO RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE BUILDING UP TO THE EASEMENT POINT FOR THE WATER? YES, YES. OKAY. YEAH.

I'M STOPPING TO WHERE THEY'D BE.

THEY'D BE ABLE TO WORK, YOU KNOW? AND PLUS, I THOUGHT A FOUR-FOOT DECK.

IF I HAD TO MOVE IT ANYWAY, I COULD GET A FORKLIFT UNDER AND LIFT IT UP AND MOVE IT OUT OF THE WAY FOR, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO DO THAT.

AND IF YOU ADD MORE SEATING, THEN YOU END UP WITH MORE PARKING ISSUES THAN YOU HAVE NOW.

THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE FOR YOU AND YOU KNOW WHERE WITH THE FRONTAGE ON MAIN STREET AND WHERE YOU HAVE NOW, YOU'VE GOT THE AMBIANCE OF THE OLD FILLING STATION.

THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF AMBIANCE ON THE SIDE HERE, YOU KNOW.

AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT THAT BUILDING'S NOT THE MOST ATTRACTIVE ON THE SIDE.

THE LITTLE DECK HELPS.

IT WOULD BE BETTER IF IT WAS BIGGER.

BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, IF I WERE SITTING THERE HAVING A GLASS OF WINE AND CARDS.

PULL UP. THAT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO.

I DON'T LIKE IT. I FEEL THE SAME WAY.

I USUALLY WHEN I, WHEN I GET A PLACE, ALL MY PLACES HAVE CHARACTER.

THEY DO. I'VE GOT OLD, OLD PLACES.

AND WHEN I GOT THIS OLD FILLING STATION, I MEAN, IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PLACES UP THERE FOR RENT ON MAIN STREET.

IN FACT, I DON'T KNOW OF ONE RIGHT NOW, AND I'VE LOOKED FOR SIX MONTHS, AND IF YOU DID FIND ONE, IT'S GONE BEFORE YOU SAW IT, YOU KNOW.

AND UNLESS Y'ALL GIVE ME THAT OLD GRAIN SILO OR GRAIN AREA DOWN THERE AND LET ME BUILD THE LITTLE TOWN I WANT TO BUILD DOWN THERE, THE OLD WESTERN TOWN.

I'VE GOT AN IDEA FOR IT, BUT NOBODY WANTS TO DO THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I DO, I HAVE SO I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO EVERYBODY AND I'VE LISTENED TO YOU AND I'VE NOT HEARD REALLY ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN REAL POSITIVE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. I MEAN, YOU'VE SAID IT, YOU KEEP SAYING IT, EVERYTHING COMES UP.

YOU AGREE THAT IT'S A PROBLEM HERE, A PROBLEM THERE, EVERYWHERE.

THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

OUR GOAL AS A COUNCIL, AS A CITY IS TO MAKE YOU SUCCESSFUL.

I MEAN, WE GOT ONE OF THE BEST CVBS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR ESTABLISHMENT IN AN AREA THAT IT DOESN'T FIT IN.

YOU'VE SAID IT YOURSELF.

THE AMBIANCE, THE WAY IT LOOKS.

IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT.

IT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT.

IT'S NOT IN A GOOD LOCATION.

YOU'VE GOT. IT'S VERY PROBLEMATIC.

AND THE REALITY OF IT IS, IS THAT I'VE BEEN BY YOUR PLACE PRETTY MUCH EVERY WEEKEND.

WE WALK BY THERE AND YOU GOT MUSIC GOING OUTSIDE.

YOU GOT PEOPLE OUT ALL OVER THE PLACE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M SITTING THERE THINKING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MUSIC OUT THERE AND IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

YOU JUST WILL. OKAY, YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE NOT, BUT YOU WILL AND YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE SEATING OUT THERE.

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AND YOU'VE GOT KIND OF A STREET THAT'S OFF OF MAIN STREET.

IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

WE WANT YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

WE LOVE WHAT YOU BRING TO OUR CITY, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE PLACE YOU NEED TO BE.

AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

BUT I THINK IF YOU'RE PATIENT AND MAYBE TRY TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO TRY TO FIND MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE, IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO EVERYBODY.

I DON'T THINK I CAN SUPPORT THIS.

I'LL FOLLOW YOU DOWN THAT ROAD AND GO KNOCK ON THAT DOOR TODAY.

WELL, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THAT'S MY ONLY OTHER OPTION, IS MOVE OUT OF THIS CITY.

I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

AND ALL I'M ASKING IS TO TAKE A BUILDING THAT LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING AND MAKE IT LOOK MORE RETAIL.

WELL, YOUR PICTURE LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING.

I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. IT DON'T LOOK ANY DIFFERENT TO ME.

OKAY. AND I MEAN, YOU, YOUR ARCHITECT.

I'D GET A NEW ONE BECAUSE THIS AIN'T REAL ATTRACTIVE, HONESTLY.

I MEAN, SO, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT THERE WHAT YOU HAVE OVER HERE IN THE FILLING STATION, THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM GO BACK AND DO SOME MORE RENDERINGS AND TRY TO BRING SOMETHING TO THAT PLACE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST NOT REAL APPEALING.

AND YOU'RE OFF MAIN AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF DRAW TO GET OVER THERE.

WE WANT YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

WE WANT YOU IN OUR TOWN.

BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS WHERE YOU WANT TO BE.

I LIKE I SAID, I DON'T.

THERE'S JUST NOT MUCH TO OFFER IN HIS HAND.

THERE'S JUST NOT MUCH.

I MEAN, THERE ISN'T. WE HAVE TALKED AND I'VE TALKED MULTIPLE TIMES.

THEY'RE JUST NOT. THEY'RE JUST NOT MUCH IN THIS TOWN AS FAR AS ANY WINERIES.

I KNOW YOU ALL WANT WINERIES HERE BECAUSE I HAVE THEM CALL ME ALL THE TIME.

I'M PRESIDENT OF OUR ASSOCIATION, 40 WINERIES.

AND THEY ASKED ME AND I SAID, WELL, CAN YOU FIND A PLACE IN THIS TOWN? I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND ONE.

AND IF I DO FIND ONE, I'LL I MEAN, YOU MAY THERE MAY BE A COUPLE MORE COMING UP HERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF BUSINESS AND WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE TWO THAT JUST GOT APPROVED THAT MIGHT COME UP FOR RENT HERE BEFORE LONG, BUT SHARRON, I THINK THAT THIS HAS POTENTIAL.

I THINK IT DOES.

I THINK IT CAN.

IT'LL GIVE ME MORE INDOOR SEATING IF THE MUSIC OUTSIDE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

BUT I CAN GET FOR 30, 35, 40 PEOPLE INSIDE.

YOU COULD BE INSIDE.

I WANT TO RETURN TO WHAT DARLENE WAS TALKING ABOUT A MINUTE AGO.

AND THAT'S HOW YOU WERE APPROVED FOR 12 TABLES.

16. 4 TABLES.

AND YOU WOUND UP WITH LIKE 40 AND COUCHES AND EVERYTHING.

AND YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE THE OWNER, BUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS WERE DICTATED TO YOU, LIKE THE COUCH AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

WHO IS DICTATING IT TO YOU IF YOU'RE THE OWNER? WELL, I KNOW YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU'RE RIGHT. I AGREE, I'M GUILTY.

BUT AGAIN, I GUESS THE TOWN, THE TOWN KIND OF DICTATED.

I MEAN, WE JUST STARTED GETTING MORE PEOPLE COMING IN AND WANTING TO SIT OUTSIDE AND MORE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PARADES COME AROUND.

AND SO, I MEAN, WE HAD THE PERFECT LOCATION FOR THE PARADES AND FOR EVERYTHING THAT WENT ON.

AND IT MADE SENSE TO PUT A FEW MORE TABLES OUT THERE.

IT JUST DID. WELL, AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL FINE AND GOOD, BUT YOU HAVE RULES IN THIS CITY AND ORDINANCES THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE ABIDED BY AND I THINK COME TO ME AND SAID, YOU'RE BREAKING THOSE RULES.

WHENEVER YOU WERE IN HERE FIVE YEARS AGO.

YOU WENT OVER IT THEN AND I'M GLAD THAT YOUR BUSINESS IS GOOD.

YOU'VE HAD SAID 2 OR 3 TIMES YOU HAVE BUILT QUITE A CLIENTELE.

I WROTE DOWN YOUR WORDS.

AND THERE'S A GOOD REASON FOR THAT.

BECAUSE YOUR WINES ARE GOOD, I ENJOY THEM.

I DO THINK THAT THE LOCATION ON MAIN STREET IS PREFERABLE.

I THINK THAT THIS IS A STEP DOWN FOR YOU.

REALLY? I THE BUILDING ITSELF COULD USE SOME WORK.

IT NEEDS A ROOF ON IT, OTHER THAN JUST A SQUARE BOX OR A RECTANGULAR BOX.

SO IT COULD BE ENHANCED A LOT IF YOU DECIDE TO STAY THERE.

I HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM WITH ELIMINATING THREE PARKING SPACES, AND YOU CAN SAY, WELL, YEAH, THAT'S JUST THREE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY DOWN THE DOWN THE STREET CAN SAY, WELL, WE JUST WANT TO ELIMINATE THREE.

ALSO, HE GOT TO DO IT.

AND THEN SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL WE ONLY WANT TO ELIMINATE TWO AND THEN WE WANT TO ELIMINATE 5 OR 6 SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE DOWN 100 PARKING SPACES THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO LOSE.

I'VE LOOKED AT THE PARKING STUDY THAT I PRESUME YOUR ENGINEER OR ARCHITECT, OR SOMEONE PROVIDED, AND THEY DIDN'T DO A REALLY GOOD JOB FOR YOU ON THIS BECAUSE SOME OF THE SPACES THEY HAVE INCLUDED ARE UNDER PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.

THEY EVEN INCLUDED THE PARKING IN OUR OWN CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU BUILDING PARKING LOT FOR OUR STAFF.

THEY'VE INCLUDED THAT DOWN AROUND THE DEPOT, THE FOUNDERS BUILDING.

THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE WHO PATRONIZE THE EXISTING BUSINESSES VETRO, GLASSBLOWING, OUR BLACKSMITH SHOP, OUR DEPOT, THE FOUNDERS BUILDING.

SO THESE ARE NOT WHAT'S CONSIDERED TYPICALLY PUBLIC PARKING SPACES, BUT THEY INCLUDED IN ANY WAY TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE THERE'S A LOT MORE PARKING THAT IS AVAILABLE. THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD REASONS WHY WINERIES WANT TO COME TO GRAPEVINE, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE ATMOSPHERE THAT THAT WE'VE ALL WORKED REALLY HARD FOR A LONG NUMBER

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OF TIMES, A LONG NUMBER OF YEARS TO CREATE.

AND YOU'RE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A WINERY THAT WANTS TO BE HERE, HOPEFULLY, AND I HOPE YOU CAN WORK OUT A DEAL WITH THE OWNER.

I DON'T SEE A NANDU HERE TONIGHT.

HOPEFULLY THAT WILL RESOLVE BECAUSE I THINK YOU'VE GOT A GREAT SPOT THERE ON THE CORNER.

I THINK THIS WOULD NOT BE GOOD.

YOU CAN'T PARK CARS THERE, BEHIND OR IN FRONT OF THE DECK THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM.

OUR PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED TO BE AT LEAST 18FT LONG.

AS MISS MAROHNIC INDICATED A WHILE AGO, WE DON'T DO COMPACT CAR SPACES.

THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED IN OUR ORDINANCE FOR GOOD REASONS.

PEOPLE AROUND HERE DRIVE THESE MONSTER PICKUP TRUCKS.

THEY'VE GOT TO PARK THEM, AND THEY'RE GOING TO PULL THEM WHEREVER THERE'S AN EMPTY SPOT, AND THEN HANG OUT 4 OR 5FT OUT IN THE DRIVING LANE.

SO. SO I HOPE THAT YOU CAN WORK IT OUT.

I WANT YOU TO STAY HERE IN GRAPEVINE.

YOU'VE GOT TO DO WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT LET'S HOPEFULLY FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK.

BUT LOSING THREE PARKING SPACES I CAN'T SUPPORT.

BUT I DO SUPPORT YOU STAYING HERE SOMEWHERE.

AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE'VE APPROVED TWO ADDITIONAL WINERIES ON MAIN STREET, SO IT TAKES PATIENCE TO FIND THE SPOT.

BUT WE APPROVED ONE ON NORTH MAIN AND WE APPROVED ONE IN THE 925 BUILDING THERE.

SO THEY ARE FINDING SOME SPACES.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT TAKES A LOT OF PATIENCE.

IT DOES. YEAH, IT DOES.

AND I, AND YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS THE ADDITIONAL TABLES I HAVE OUT THERE, I GOT TO TELL Y'ALL, IT HAS NOT BEEN EASY OVER THE LAST YEAR WE HAVE BEEN ALL THESE WINERIES ARE HURTING BAD.

WE'RE ALL HURTING REAL BAD.

AND SO YOU WANT TO EXPAND AND SO YOU WANT TO EXPAND.

AND SO YOU WANT TO EXPAND.

KNOW WHAT I WANT TO DO IS WHAT I, WHAT WE GOT TO DO IS TRY TO CASH IN ON CHRISTMAS.

SO, AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THAT THAT WE HAVE THE PARADES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT ADDITIONAL SEATING, IT HELPS MAKE UP FOR THE THREE WEEKS THAT WE JUST HAD A REALLY BAD WEEK.

THANK YOU. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I GUESS WHAT HELPS US OUT IS WE, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT ADDITIONAL SEATING.

BUT AGAIN, I CAN'T SEE US.

YOU KNOW, Y'ALL, I WISH Y'ALL WOULD MAYBE STEP UP AND SAY, HEY, LET'S DO SOME MORE TO THAT FACADE, BECAUSE I'LL TELL THE OWNER, HEY, HE WANTS THE CITY WANTS MORE DONE TO IT IN ORDER TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A RETAIL CENTER.

BUT DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NO, MA'AM. NO, COMMISSIONER.

OH. I'M SORRY.

DO WE HAVE ANY LETTERS OR PETITIONS? NO, MA'AM. AND DO WE HAVE ANY FOLKS REGISTERED TO SPEAK? NO. OKAY.

OKAY. WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVE TO CLOSE. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? NEED A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

MOVE TO CLOSE. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. SIR. THANK YOU.

BACK TO YOU, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM THREE.

[3. Conditional Use Permit CU24-39 (Club Carwash) and a Final Plat of Block 1, Lots 14R-1R1 & 14R-1R2, Towne Center Addition No. 2 - City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Claymoore Engineering requesting a conditional use permit to amend the previously approved site plan CU07-35 (Ordinance 2007-66) for a planned commercial center to revise the building elevations and building footprint to allow a medical office and professional office. This request is specifically to construct a 5,030 square foot drive-thru car wash with full-service and self-service options with dual lanes. The subject property is located at 901 Ira E Woods Avenue and is currently zoned “CC”, Community Commercial District. ]

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 24-39 AND FINAL PLAT OF BLOCK ONE.

LOTS 14R- 1R1 AND 14R-1R2.

TOWN CENTER ADDITION NUMBER TWO ERICA MAROHNIC.

YES, SIR. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AMEND THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR CU-O735 FOR A PLANNED COMMERCIAL CENTER.

THIS REQUEST IS SPECIFICALLY TO CONSTRUCT A 5000 SQUARE FOOT DUAL DRIVE THROUGH CAR WASH WITH FULL SERVICE AND SELF-SERVICE OPTIONS.

THE LOT CONTAINS APPROXIMATELY ONE AND A HALF ACRES AND IS LOCATED AT 901 IRA WOODS AVENUE IN IS ZONED CC, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO DEVELOP A 5000 SQUARE FOOT TUNNEL STYLE DUAL LANE DRIVE THROUGH CAR WASH KNOWN AS CLUB CAR WASH, AND THIS WILL FEATURE BOTH FULL SERVICE AND SELF-SERVICE OPTIONS, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES A WASH BAY, EQUIPMENT ROOM, RESTROOMS, A PATRON, LOBBY, EMPLOYEE, OFFICE, CASHIER AND STORAGE.

SHADE STRUCTURES ARE PROPOSED FOR CUSTOMER CONVENIENCE, VACUUMING AND PROPOSED A TOP 22 OF THE PROVIDED PARKING SPACES ON SITE.

THERE WILL BE FOUR POINTS OF ACCESS.

TWO ACCESS POINTS OFF WILLIAM D TATE AVENUE, AND THEN TWO OTHERS THROUGH EXISTING ACCESS EASEMENTS TO THE NORTHWEST AND NORTHEAST CORNERS OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED FOR THIS USE IS 24, AND THE APPLICANT HAS DESIGNED 29.

THE APPLICANT, MR. CLAY CHRISTIE WITH CRAMER ENGINEERING, IS HERE THIS EVENING.

HE HAS PREPARED A PRESENTATION IS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL OR COMMISSION MAY HAVE TO THE REQUEST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COMMISSION. COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

CLAY CHRISTIE, CLAYMORE ENGINEERING, 1903 CENTRAL DRIVE.

WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF ON IS A PROPOSED CLUB CAR WASH LOCATED IN THE CURRENT INDUSTRIAL, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL SECTOR OVER HERE THAT IS

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KIND OF RIGHT BEHIND TARGET DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE JUST SOUTH OF THAT AND NORTH OF THE EXISTING BANK AND TACO BELL ACROSS FROM US, WE HAVE SOME MORE COMMERCIAL ON THE EAST SIDE OF WILLIAM D TATE, AND SO WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE HERE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS BACKGROUND, WHICH I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH, BUT WE HAVE AN UNDEVELOPED PARCEL IN THE LARGE OVERALL SHOPPING CENTER.

WE ARE LOOKING TO DEVELOP ABOUT 1.5 ACRES OF THIS SITE.

SPLITTING IT KIND OF AS YOU WOULD KIND OF IMAGINE AS IT GETS DEVELOPED.

THERE'S AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT CONNECTS THE EXISTING BANK TO THE STATION.

AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, ADJACENT TO US IS AN EXISTING VET CLINIC LAW OFFICE FIRM.

AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT SAYS EXISTING FUEL STATION.

I'LL APOLOGIZE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S ANOTHER LARGER BANK THAT WE HAVE OVER THERE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AND THEN TO THE FAR THAT IS THE SOUTHWEST OR THE TOP RIGHT CORNER, THERE ARE SOME EXISTING OFFICE SPACES.

WHAT WE HAVE IS ABOUT A 5000 SQUARE FOOT CAR WASH.

WE PROVIDED THAT THE ENTRY WOULD COME IN ON THE NORTHERN SIDE, AND WE WOULD HAVE OUR STACKING AND OUR QUEUE ON THE NORTHERN SIDE.

THE VEHICLES WOULD THEN ENTER THE CAR WASH TUNNEL ON THE WESTERN SIDE, AND THEN WOULD COME AND EXIT OUT TO THAT, THAT SHARED ACCESS, THAT CONCRETE DRIVE THAT WAS EXISTING THAT I MENTIONED TO YOU.

PATRONS AT THAT POINT IN TIME COULD CONTINUE ON THEIR WAY AND THEY COULD EXIT ONTO WILLIAM D TATE.

THEY COULD GO ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH IS A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT EXIT ONLY OR THEY CAN GO DOWN SOUTH TO THE BANK SIDE WHERE THERE IS FULL ACCESS ON WILLIAM D TATE.

IF THEY DECIDE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE THE VACUUM BAYS, THEY WOULD MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN OUTSIDE OF THE CAR WASH.

THEY PROCEED SOUTH AND THEN THEY COULD GO IN AND UTILIZE THE EXISTING THE PROPOSED VACUUM BAYS THAT WE HAVE THERE.

KIND OF TALKING A COUPLE MORE DETAILS ABOUT OUR, OUR STACKING AND SOME OF THE TRAFFIC ACCESS THAT WE HAD THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND POINT OUT IS THAT WE'VE DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY ON THIS SITE, BOTH TO ANALYZE THE EXISTING ENTRANCES COMING IN AND OUT ALONG WILLIAM B TATE AS WELL AS THE STACKING OF THE CARS ENTERING THE QUEUE INTO OUR SITE THAT WOULD STACK UP FOR THE CAR WASHES THAT WOULD BE COMING IN.

AND THEN JUST FOR CIRCULATION AND DIFFERENT PURPOSES THROUGH THAT STUDY, WHAT WE FOUND IS ON THE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT THERE ACCUMULATES IN THE PEAK TIMES THAT WE ANALYZED AND THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY AN ENGINEER TAKE VIDEOS AND RECORDINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS OF THE STACKING THAT ON TYPICAL WITH THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC OF THE CAR WASH ADDED THAT THERE WOULD BE ABOUT TWO CARS IS WHAT STACKS UP THERE ON THE WILLIAM D TATE ON THE NORTHERN SIDE.

AND THAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE WITH THE AMOUNT OF STACKING THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED ON THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY CURRENTLY.

AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE IT DOES ALMOST IT GETS TO ABOUT THREE CARS, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER 60FT.

20FT OF CAR.

AND THERE'S ABOUT 83FT OF STACKING RIGHT THERE ON THAT ENTRANCEWAY.

IN REGARD TO THE QUEUING COMING INTO THE SITE.

ON AVERAGE, THERE WAS A HANDFUL OF CAR WASHES THAT WE WENT JUST HERE IN THE METROPLEX AREA AND ANALYZE THOSE AREAS THERE.

AND TYPICALLY, THE PEAK QUEUE WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND TEN VEHICLES IS WHAT WAS ANALYZED AND WHAT WAS SAW ON THAT.

AND WE HAVE OUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ACROSS THE METROPLEX THAT WE INCLUDED.

WITH THAT, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE THAT COULD BE IN EXCESS OF THAT AND THAT THEY ARE THERE.

AND SO EVEN THOUGH THAT WE ANALYZE THAT THERE'S TEN, TEN SPACES THERE.

OUR CURRENT STACKING THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED FOR OUR SITE CAN ACCOMMODATE 22.

AND SO THAT'S MORE THAN DOUBLE THAT OF WHAT WAS SEEN IN THE REAL WORLD OF WHAT WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE IN CASE THIS BUSINESS IS SUCCESSFUL.

AND WE DO HAVE SOMETHING IN REGARDS TO THE ACTUAL CIRCULATION OF VEHICLES AND HOW QUICKLY THAT THEY COME IN WHEN THE VACUUM, WHEN THE CAR WASH GETS GOING AND MOVING IN, WE CAN PROCESS A CAR ABOUT EVERY 30S ENTERING INTO THE TUNNEL.

NOW THE WHOLE CAR WASH ITSELF WILL TAKE ABOUT THREE MINUTES TO GET THROUGH, BUT GIVEN THE SPACING AND THE LENGTH OF THE TUNNEL AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES THROUGH THERE, A CAR CAN ENTER IN ABOUT EVERY 30S.

SO WHENEVER YOU DO THE MATH ON THAT, WHENEVER VEHICLES ARE COMING IN, THEY'RE ABLE TO PROCESS THOSE VEHICLES VERY QUICKLY TO WHERE THEY CAN GET STARTED AND GET IN THE BAY TO WHERE THE STACKING DOESN'T QUEUE BACK QUITE AS FAR AS SOME OF THE OLDER, LESS MODERN TYPE CAR WASHES THAT WE HAVE.

YOU KNOW WHERE IT TAKES A COUPLE OF MINUTES OF GETTING IN IN THE PREWASH AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT THIS ONE BEING A LITTLE MORE AUTOMATED, WE'RE ABLE TO GET VEHICLES IN AND OUT OF THE FACILITY FAIRLY QUICKLY.

THEN THEY CAN COME IN, THEY CAN PROCEED TO THEIR VACUUMS OR, YOU KNOW, TO DO THAT, OR THE PATRONS CAN GO ON THEIR WAY.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR SITE PLAN IN REGARD TO OUR LANDSCAPING.

WE HAVE A FULL VEHICLE VEHICULAR BARRIER.

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PARDON ME. THAT'S GOING TO GO AROUND IN A SHRUB ROWE.

THAT IS TO HANDLE ANY LIGHTS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE COMING IN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE COMING IN TO KIND OF SHADE THAT OFF FROM US.

WE ALSO HAVE TREES AND DIFFERENT THINGS ALONG WILLIAM D TATE TO KIND OF CREATE A LANDSCAPE BARRIER ALONG THAT AREA.

WE DIDN'T LEAVE THE FRONT OF THE WILLIAM D TATE AREA.

WE DIDN'T INTENTIONALLY NOT PUT LANDSCAPING IN THERE, BUT THERE IS A LARGE ELECTRICAL EASEMENT FOR THERE, SOME MAJOR HIGH LINE AND POWER POLES THAT GO ALONG IN THAT, THAT RESTRICT US FROM BEING ABLE TO PLANT IN THAT AREA.

SO WE DIDN'T LEAVE THAT SPOT BARE AND NOT TAKEN CARE OF ON PURPOSE.

WE ONLY HAVE KIND OF THAT SMALL AREA WHERE YOU SEE THE TREES ALONG THAT WAY, AND WE'VE PLANTED OUR PLANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO TRY TO MEET OUR LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT.

AND THEN ON THE BACK SIDE, WE'VE DONE THE SAME THING.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WESTERN NEIGHBOR WILL BE.

BUT AGAIN, WE'VE TRIED TO CREATE A GREEN BARRIER THAT WE WOULD HAVE THROUGH THAT.

AND ONE THING TO NOTE ALONG WILLIAM D TATE, WE DID TRY TO USE EVERGREEN MATERIAL THERE SO THAT IT'S GREEN YEAR-ROUND WITH LIVE OAKS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE DIDN'T PICK SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD DROP ITS LEAVES AND BE BURIED DURING THE WINTER TO TRY TO PROVIDE THAT COVER AND A FULL LANDSCAPING YEAR-ROUND . SO WE HAVE WITH THAT, I'M VERY HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL MAY HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. QUESTIONS, MR. CHRISTIE? YEAH. WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATIONS GOING TO BE? 7 TO 8. 7 TO 8.

AND THEN WHEN YOU ARE CLOSED, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ARE WALKING AROUND, ARE Y'ALL GOING TO HAVE LIKE YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOT PEOPLE MINGLING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND CAR WASHES HAVE USUALLY BEEN A PRETTY GOOD PLACE FOR THEM TO KIND OF MINGLE.

WILL THERE BE ANY KIND OF CAN YOU SHUT IT OFF? SO, I MEAN, WE'LL HAVE OUR SECURITY ON SITE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO MONITOR AND SEE WHAT ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON AROUND THE SITE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE HAVE.

BUT TYPICALLY FOR WHAT WE HAVE FOR HERE IS THAT WE'D HAVE OUR SECURITY AND OUR CAMERAS FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO TRY TO MONITOR THAT OR JUST LIKE VIDEO, MORE VIDEO TYPE DEAL LIKE MONITOR TYPE STUFF THAT WE WOULD HAVE IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR THIS LOCATION WE WERE TRYING TO FIND A COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, A COMMERCIAL SITE THAT HAD GOOD NEIGHBORS THAT KEPT THEIR SITES CLEAN, THAT KIND OF DO THAT. AND CLUB CAR WASH IS NOT JUST A MOM-AND-POP TYPE CAR WASH THAT IT HAS.

I MEAN, IT'S A NATIONWIDE CLIENT THAT TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR FACILITIES AND WHAT THEY HAVE AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER.

AND GOING SOMEWHERE NEXT TO, LIKE, A CUTIE OR SOMETHING THAT KEEPS THEIR LANDSCAPE ALIVE, THAT KEEPS IT MAINTAINED, THAT DOES THAT.

THAT IS PART OF THE SITE SELECTION PROCESS THAT WE LOOK FOR WHEN WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CLUB.

AND THAT WAS PART OF THAT TO FIT THAT.

AND SO, WHENEVER WE COME HERE TODAY, WE'RE NOT HERE JUST TO PRESENT, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO BE A CAR WASH.

THAT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE THE OLD SCHOOL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOAPS AND SUDS AND EVERYTHING RUNNING OUT.

I MEAN, CLUB RUNS A TIGHT SHIP WHERE THEY'RE CLEANING IT UP.

THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THEIR LANDSCAPES ALIVE.

THEY HAVE CLEAN SITES NOT ONLY JUST FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL STUFF, BUT THAT WHAT THEY FOUND IS THAT REALLY BOOSTS THEIR CLIENTELE.

IF YOU SEE A CLUB, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE A CAR WASH THAT'S KIND OF DIRTY, GRUNGY THAT DOESN'T LOOK CLEAN.

WHY ARE YOU GOING TO BRING YOUR CAR TO BE WASHED THERE? WHY ARE YOU GOING TO GO TO THAT? AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

AND PART OF THAT AND PART OF THEIR COMMITMENT, WHENEVER THEY COME IN SOMEWHERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE SOMETHING THERE.

IT'S NOT FULL OF A, YOU KNOW, DARK HOLE THAT SOMEBODY GOES WHERE PEOPLE HIDE OUT IN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THEIR BUSINESS AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE CITY EITHER. SO AND ALSO THEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE FULL SERVICE IS THAT AND A LOBBY IS THAT I DON'T ARE YOU ALSO HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHERE THEY WILL VACUUM YOUR CAR AND DO IT.

NO, THERE'S A PLACE THERE.

BUT IT'S. YES SIR.

YEAH. IT'S MAINLY LIKE WHAT YOU DO YOURSELF.

OKAY. YES, SIR. SO IT IS AN AUTOMATED CAR WASH WHENEVER THEY COME IN.

AND THERE'S ALSO MONTHLY, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU CAN GO PAY YOUR MONTHLY DEAL AND THEN YOU JUST GO IN AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY EACH TIME.

AND YOU CAN COME AND GO WHENEVER YOU NEED AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT TYPE OF SERVICE IS PROVIDED THERE.

BUT WHENEVER THEY PULL AROUND TO THE VACUUMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S WHY THERE'S MULTIPLE VACUUM BAYS.

SO THERE'S PLENTY OF THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE A VACUUM WHENEVER THEY GO THROUGH, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

GOOD QUESTIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN? WILL YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE FACADE? HAVE YOU EVER, ON ANY LOCATIONS, USED A LIGHTER COLORED BRICK, A DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEME THAT WOULD MORE FIT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD? BEIGE, LIGHT GRAY THAT JUST LIKE, LOOKS LIKE A HULKING BUILDING.

SO, THEY PUT THE ARTICULATIONS ON THE FRONT AND PARDON ME, I'M THIS IS A CIVIL ENGINEER TALKING HERE, SO.

BUT FROM THAT. BUT WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER WITH OUR ARCHITECTS AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND THEY'VE TRIED NOT TO MAKE IT JUST LOOK LIKE A LONG, STRAIGHT TUNNEL.

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I MEAN, IN ESSENCE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE LONG, STRAIGHT TUNNEL FOR THE CARS TO COME IN.

BUT BEING ABLE TO PUT THE END ELEMENTS AND PUTTING A LITTLE BIT OF THE WINDOWS AND THE GLAZING AND DIFFERENT THINGS OF THAT, WE'VE DEFINITELY DRESSED IT UP BEFORE IN THE PAST AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AS FOR THE COLOR I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE AMENABLE TO COLORS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T THINK THAT YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE OUR, OUR LOGO OF LACK OF COLOR.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT COLORS.

I'M TALKING ABOUT MORE LACK OF COLOR.

I KNOW THAT THE WHITE HAS BEEN TYPICAL FOR US, JUST BECAUSE, AGAIN, THAT'S AN EASY THING TO KEEP CLEAN.

AND IT LOOKS CLEAN OVER THE YEARS, AND IT'S EASIER TO MAINTAIN THAN MORE OF LIKE A PAINTED COLOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT LOOKS DINGY OVER TIME.

BUT IF THERE'S A COLOR ISSUE THAT WE HAVE THERE, I THINK ABSOLUTELY WE'D BE WILLING TO, TO WORK ON, ON SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE AMENABLE AND MORE, YOU KNOW, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL TO DO SO.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A QUESTION.

I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, IF YOU WILL.

YES, MA'AM.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR STACKING.

YOU SAID YOU COULD STACK AS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WILLIAM D TATE AVENUE IS NOT THAT YOU'VE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM FOR CARS NOT TO BLOCK BE BLOCKED ON THE ROAD AND YES, MA'AM.

SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THAT WE CAN FIT.

SO JUST FROM THE PAY, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, THIS ISN'T TOUCHED, BUT IT'S OKAY.

IF YOU LOOK JUST TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, YOU'LL SEE KIND OF THE TWO LITTLE CANOPY AREAS, RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE PAY STATION THAT WE HAVE THERE.

AND THERE'S TWO LANES THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN FIT THERE.

AND JUST BEFORE THE PAY WINDOW THERE'S 16 CARS.

AND THOSE ARE NUMBERED THERE ON THE SITE PLAN.

AND SO THERE'S 16 RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN COMING INTO THE BAY THERE'S ROOM FOR ANOTHER FIVE SPACES RIGHT THERE WHENEVER THEY COME IN.

AND SO THAT'S HOW WE WERE GETTING THE 21 SPACES BEFORE THEY ENTER INTO THE TUNNEL, AS IT KIND OF MAKES THE LITTLE HORSESHOE THE LITTLE U-TURN TO COME IN.

AND SO THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE.

AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE UNDERSTAND REALITY SOMETIMES OF I MEAN, WE PUT OUR BOOTS ON THE GROUND, WE GO ANALYZE EXISTING CAR WASHES.

WE LOOK AT THEM AND SEE WHAT THE STACKING IS.

AND WE TRY TO GO THROUGH THAT.

AND WE SAW WHAT THAT WAS AND WE'RE LIKE, HEY ON.

AND SO I CAN TELL YOU HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

SO, I KIND OF HAVE IT BOOKMARKED RIGHT HERE.

SO WE WENT TO A COUPLE CAR WASHES LOCATED AT 6628 COURT ROAD IN PLANO.

WE WENT TO SITE AT 788 KELLER.

WE LOOKED AT LOWER SONOMA LANE IN FORT WORTH.

ARAPAHO AND GARLAND ARE JUST SOME OF THE LOCATIONS THAT WE WENT, AND WE ACTUALLY MEASURED IN THE PEAK TIMES DURING THE DAY.

WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CARS ON A ON A NEWER CAR WASH FOR THE STACKING? AND ON THAT, WHAT WE HAD WERE TEN, SEVEN, SIX, NINE, SIX, SEVEN, SEVEN AND TEN.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE SAW.

AND THAT WAS FROM THE ENTRY INTO THE TUNNEL.

NOT BEHIND THE PAYWALL.

NOW WE DO, YOU KNOW, CLUB CAR WASH IS COMING HERE TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

THEY'RE COMING HERE TO BE THERE.

AND SO WE SAID, OKAY, WELL, THERE'S TEN, BUT WE KNOW THERE'S CONCERNS AND ESPECIALLY HERE THAT IF CARS WERE TO BACK OUT, WHAT WOULD THAT DO.

HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT EVERYTHING.

BECAUSE THERE IS WILLIAM D TATE RIGHT THERE.

THERE IS A FIRE LANE RIGHT THERE.

AND SO WE TOOK WHAT WE FOUND IN THE FIELD AND WHAT WE DID THAT.

AND WE'RE PROVIDING MORE THAN DOUBLE TO ALLOW FOR THAT.

SO IN THE EVENT THAT THERE ARE SOME ACCESS CARS.

IF THIS BUSINESS IS MORE SUCCESSFUL TO WHERE WE HAVE AND THAT CAN STACK FURTHER BACK, THAT WE'RE NOT RIGHT ON THAT EDGE.

WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE MORE THAN WHAT WAS OBSERVED AND WHAT WAS CALCULATED FOR THERE.

THANK YOU.

OTHER QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, DID YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS? I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE. I'M SORRY.

LARRY. EXCUSE ME.

JUST A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT THIS.

I GUESS OVER THE YEARS, AS THINGS HAVE DEVELOPED IN THE POPULATION HAS GROWN.

WE SEE MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC ALONG THAT CONNECTOR BETWEEN THE BANK PROPERTY AND CUTE.

AND EVEN DURING LUNCHTIME, WITH AS MANY LANDSCAPE AREAS, PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE AT WORK, AND THEY EVEN BEGIN TO PARK TRAILERS AND THINGS ALONG THAT DRIVE THROUGH THERE AND, AND AS YOU SAID, YOU COULD EVERY 30S YOU COULD START A CAR THROUGH THE CAR WASH.

SO THAT MEANS ONE COULD COME OUT EVERY 30S, TOO, BUT IF THEY COME OUT, THEY'VE GOT TO TURN IN.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE THEIR CAR OFF INTO THAT AREA WHERE THE VACUUMS AND THE TOWELS ARE FURNISHED, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A CONGESTED AREA.

AND I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT YOU DID YOUR SURVEY OF CAR WASHES, BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY.

YOU MENTIONED IN GRAPEVINE.

SO WHAT WE HAD IS THAT WE'VE I'M MAKING A STATEMENT.

I'M NOT ASKING YOU A QUESTION.

I UNDERSTAND YOU TOLD US YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY AGREEMENT, BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

AND WITH THE INCREASE OF TRAFFIC, WE'VE SEEN ALONG THAT AREA THERE, BECAUSE I GO BY THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY AND I SEE MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC BETWEEN THOSE

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TWO, THE BANK AND CUTE.

AND I SEE PEOPLE PARKED THERE AT TIMES TOO.

SO I GUESS I LIKE THE IDEA OF WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

I WISH YOU WERE ON THE 26TH AND FACE THAT ROAD INSTEAD OF WILLIAM D TATE BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC SITUATION.

BUT THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN, IS THAT IT'S IT CAN BE CONGESTED ANY WAY, BUT I THINK THIS COULD MAKE IT REALLY CONGESTED.

SO, WE DID LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED WITH STAFF AND THEY BROUGHT UP THE SAME CONCERNS OF KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THERE.

AND THAT WAS PART OF WHAT OUR TRAFFIC STUDY.

SO WE HAD LAMBETH ENGINEERING WHENEVER THEY WENT THROUGH AND THEY, THEY ANALYZED THAT PORTION OF IT.

AND WHAT SHE FOUND IS CORRECT.

AND THE FACT OF SOME OF THE CARS, VEHICLES PARKING OVER THERE, TYPICALLY IT WAS LANDSCAPE TRUCKS OR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WERE GOING OVER TO THE RIGHT AND RIGHT, WRONG OR INDIFFERENT, THEY'RE PARKING THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A TRAILER AND BECAUSE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO IT, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY CAN GO AND GET IN AND GET OUT.

AND THEY KIND OF SIT THERE AND THEY EAT THEIR LUNCH IN THEIR TRUCKS, AND THEY MIGHT BE HALF ON, HALF OFF THE CONCRETE AND EVERYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, RIGHT, WRONG OR INDIFFERENT, THEY'RE NOT REALLY SUPPOSED TO PARK THERE.

THAT'S NOT A PARKING SPACE FOR THEM.

AND MORE OF A FUNCTION OF THE BEAUTY OF WHAT WE HAVE WHENEVER, IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO DEVELOP HERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THAT WILL BE A LOSS.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT REALLY A LEGAL USE OF WHAT THEY'RE UTILIZING THAT FOR CURRENTLY OF WHAT WE HAVE.

AND THROUGH THAT, WHAT WE FOUND, THE MAJORITY OF THAT TRAFFIC, THROUGH THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THE MAJORITY OF THAT TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING THROUGH THERE IS TO GET BACK TO THE WILLIAM D TATE FULL ACCESS POINT.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THERE'S MORE STACKING ON THAT DRIVEWAY.

WHENEVER I WAS TELLING YOU, ON THE RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT DURING THE PEAK TIMES THAT WE OBSERVED THAT THERE WAS ONLY ABOUT TWO CARS THERE.

AND IF YOU NOTICE ON OUR SITE PLAN, OUR THROAT STACKING ALONG THAT AREA IS A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT SHORTER THERE, JUST DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE DRIVE, THAT KIND OF CUTS UP THROUGH TO ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OVER THERE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT LARGER.

WE HAVE ABOUT I THINK IT'S 83FT THAT WE HAVE THERE WHERE CARS CAN STACK.

COMING BACK ONTO THAT.

AND WE SAW THAT THERE WAS A STACK THERE OF ABOUT THREE AS WELL THAT WE WOULD HAVE COMING THROUGH THERE.

AND WHILE WE WOULD HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR CARS COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT CAR WASH EVERY 30S.

THAT IS NOT A THAT IS NOT A CONTINUOUS THING.

THAT MIGHT BE THE PEAK DURING A 30 MINUTE RUSH THAT THEY HAVE, OR REALLY NOT EVEN AN HOURLY THING.

IT'S WITH A CAR WASHES.

IT'S MORE EVENT DRIVEN.

PARTICULARLY IF THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, AFTER IF WE HAD A DIRT STORM BLOW THROUGH OR IF WE HAVE A RAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT COMES IN.

THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT CAUSES THE INFLUX OF LARGER CARS AND LARGER AMOUNT OF STACKING IN A CAR WASH ON A DAY-TO-DAY TYPE OPERATION AND BASIS, BECAUSE THEY ARE OPEN AND IT'S KIND OF A CONVENIENCE AS YOU'RE PASSING BY, YOU KNOW, CAR WASHES IN GENERAL DON'T GENERATE A LOT OF INDIVIDUAL TRAFFIC.

MOST OF THE TIME IT'S PASSING BY.

HEY, I'M DRIVING BY HERE.

I'M GOING TO STOP BY AND GET MY CAR WASHED.

WELL, WHENEVER YOU'RE DRIVING THAT BY, THAT'S KIND OF A CONVENIENCE AND A TIME FRAME OF WHEN YOU DO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CORRELATE DIRECTLY WITH, HEY, THIS IS THE 7:00 RUSH HOUR FOR DINNER THAT WE ALL HAVE THAT A RESTAURANT MIGHT SEE THAT EVERYBODY COMES HERE AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

WE'RE KIND OF SPREAD THROUGHOUT AS PEOPLE ARE COMING BY AND PEOPLE ARE PASSING THROUGH.

AND SO WHILE WE CAN IN A, IN A, IN A PEAK TIME, ACCOMMODATE THOSE TYPE OF VALUES AND THOSE TYPE OF VEHICLES PASSING THROUGH, IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE A CAR, YOU KNOW, FROM 7 A.M.

TO 8 P.M., CARS JUST CRANKING THROUGH EVERY 30S THAT'S JUST NOT REALITY OF WHAT WE WOULD WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT.

OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION.

IT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

I HAVE A REAL CONCERN ABOUT THIS FIRE LANE, BECAUSE IT SERVICES A LOT.

AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE QUEUING, PEOPLE ARE COMING IN.

HOW DO WE HAVE COMFORT THAT THAT FIRE LANE IS NOT GOING TO BE BLOCKED BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I MEAN, IS THERE SOME CONCERN FROM AT THE STAFF LEVEL ABOUT THAT? I BELIEVE SO, BUT I WOULD NEED TO DEFER YOUR QUESTION TO JOHN ROBERTSON OR ELIZABETH REYNOLDS FROM PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. BECAUSE THAT'S A REAL CONCERN FOR ME BECAUSE IT'S A TIGHT SITE.

THANK YOU. YES, WE RECEIVED THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS OF IT.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN, THEY'RE STACKING CARS RATHER TIGHTLY.

WE BELIEVE THAT IN REALITY DURING PEAK TIMES THAT IT WILL STACK OUT A COUPLE INTO THE INTERNAL DRIVE LANE.

SO AND THAT'S A PROBLEM.

THANK YOU, MISS FREED.

ONE THING TO TALK ABOUT ON THE FIRE LANE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, OF CONCERN IS THAT TYPICALLY YOU NEED TWO POINTS OF ACCESS FOR FIRE LANE ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO PROVIDE

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COVERAGE FOR A SITE.

AND NOT PARTICULARLY JUST OUR SITE, BUT LOOKING AT THE ADJACENT SITES ON HOW THAT MIGHT BE IMPACTED.

THE FUEL STATION, THEY WOULD HAVE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS WITHOUT THAT CUT ACROSS THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THERE TO WHERE IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED ON THE ROUTE THAT THEY COULD. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE EXAMPLE THAT I PULLED UP RIGHT HERE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ENTER IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE.

SORRY, GOOGLE IS ROTATED, BUT THEY'D BE ABLE TO ENTER ON THERE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE RED FIRE LANE THAT ACTUALLY GOES AROUND THROUGH THERE.

AND THEN THE SAME THING FOR THE BANK THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THERE AND GO AROUND AS WELL.

AND, AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND WHEN ENGINEERING IS SAYING THEY'RE ON THAT, I MEAN, NOTHING THAT WE'VE HAD ON ANY OF OUR ANALYSIS.

I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, WE WENT PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND, EVALUATED EXISTING CAR WASHES AND DIFFERENT THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

NOTHING THAT WE'VE FOUND AND WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE STUDIES THAT WE'VE HAD HAVE EXCEEDED ANYTHING THAT WE'VE SHOWN.

YEAH. AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOUR OTHER CAR WASHES HAVE QUEUING AND FIRE LANES, SO I DON'T I'M NOT ASKING A QUESTION.

IT'S JUST WHEN THERE'S A FIRE THEY GOT TO GET IN.

YES, MA'AM. ABSOLUTELY.

THE EASIEST WAY THAT THEY CAN.

ABSOLUTELY. IF THEY COME THROUGH THE ONE WAY AND THEY NEED TO GET DOWN.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. SO THAT'S A REAL CONCERN FOR ME.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD SITE FOR THIS TYPE OF FACILITY, BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT INTERSECTION WITH THE TRAINS COMING IN.

YOU SIT THERE A COUPLE OF CYCLES AND IT BACKS UP TRAFFIC ON BALL STREET AND ON RAY WOODS WHEN THE TRAIN COMES THROUGH.

AND IF YOU GOT CARS JUST TURNING IN THERE, THEY SLOW DOWN.

YOU'RE GOING BACK UP TRAFFIC EVEN FURTHER AND IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD LOCATION FOR THAT MUCH ACTIVITY IN MY OPINION.

I THINK THE COMMENTS ARE CORRECT.

I DO HAVE A JUST A QUESTION OF CURIOSITY, DO Y'ALL COLLECT ANY SALES TAX ON ANYTHING YOU SELL? I APOLOGIZE, MAYOR, THAT THAT GETS A LITTLE BIT ABOVE MY PAY GRADE, I MAY ASK.

YOU THIS OUT HERE SO.

SURE, ON LABOR AND SERVICES.

SO IT IS IT WOULD BE TAXED ON LABORS AND SERVICES.

ON WHAT? ON THE LABOR AND SERVICES THAT ARE THERE.

DO YOU WANT TO COME? SORRY, I'VE GOTTA CALL IN SOME REINFORCEMENTS I APOLOGIZE, MAYOR.

SO THE CAR WASHES TAXABLE.

YES, SIR. JUSTIN BARNES, VP OF DEVELOPMENT FOR CLUB CAR WASH.

AND YES, SOME OF THEM ARE. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE CHECKING ON TO, TO SEE ON THE IDEA WHAT A TYPICAL STORE LIKE THIS PRODUCES AND NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT WE CAN SURE GET THAT INFORMATION.

BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT. NOW.

BE UNCOMFORTABLE TO TELL YOU SOMETHING I WASN'T SURE ABOUT, BUT YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT IT IS.

IT TAXED WHENEVER ANYBODY GOES THROUGH THE WASH OR YOU KIND OF SAID AN ANSWER.

I DIDN'T FULLY UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU WERE SITTING AS TO WHAT WAS TAXED IN SOME MUNICIPALITIES.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CHECK ON, ON THE LABOR AND SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED ON THERE.

THERE IS A SALES TAX THAT'S COLLECTED.

I'M JUST UNAWARE IF THAT IS HERE OR NOT.

BUT THERE'S NO SALES ON ANY MERCHANDISE OR ANYTHING THAT WE SELL.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THIS CAR WASH SOMEWHERE ALONG IN THERE, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT IF IT WERE ON ANOTHER SITE.

I WOULD TRY TO DO SO.

THE VACANT SITE THAT FRONTS UP THERE ON OUR WOODS IS, SEEMS TO ME A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR IT.

IT'S LARGER. IT GIVES YOU ENOUGH ROOM TO HAVE THE STACKING ROOM ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY WITHOUT HAVING TO SHARE IT VIA FIRE LANES WITH ADJACENT PROPERTIES, I THINK.

IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT COULD BE LAID OUT ACCORDINGLY, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU ALL LOOK AT THAT SITE AND IF YOU DO, AND COME BACK AND HAVE THE SALES TAX INFORMATION, THAT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL.

SO I AND I APOLOGIZE, MR. ROGERS, BUT I KNOW IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP A COUPLE TIMES, BUT ON OUR ON OUR STACKING, ALL, ALL OF OUR STACKING IS LOCATED ON SITE.

SO WE'RE NOT STACKING.

WE'RE NOT PROPOSING STACKING IN A FIRE LANE.

WE'RE NOT PROPOSING STACKING ON ANYBODY ELSE'S SITE WITH THIS.

AND I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T MAKE THAT CLEAR WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THAT I, THAT'S MY FAULT.

WHENEVER I TALK ABOUT STACKING INTO THE DRIVEWAYS, I WAS TALKING ABOUT EXITING THE SITE.

AND SO WHENEVER I WAS TALKING ABOUT TWO CARS AT THE DRIVEWAY AND THREE CARS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THAT WAS IN BUSINESSES COMING IN AND EXITING THE SITE FOR VEHICLES THAT ARE STACKING AND PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR SITE ARE STACKING, BOTH THROUGH CALCULATION AND OBSERVATION WOULD BE FULLY CONTAINED.

IF YOU LOOK WHERE THE VEHICLES ARE ON THAT NORTHERN SIDE RIGHT THERE, THOSE WOULD BE FULLY CONTAINED WITHIN THOSE LANES RIGHT THERE, NOT WITHIN THE SHARED THE FIRE LANE THAT CROSS AXIS CROSSES ACROSS THOSE TWO AREAS, OR ANY OF THE ENTRANCEWAYS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO IF I MISCOMMUNICATED THAT, I APOLOGIZE ON THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY STACKING ON ANY OF THOSE SPACES.

IT ACTUALLY, AND I SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED STACKING WITH THE CARS AND VEHICLES FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES IS WHAT WOULD BE STACKING IN THE INGRESS AND EGRESS THAT YOU'D BE SHARING WITH THOSE.

CORRECT. SO, AND THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, LIKE EVEN ON THAT VACANT SITE.

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MISS ROGERS, JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE THE CROSS ACCESS POINTS AND WHERE THOSE ACCESS POINTS ARE, WE WOULD HAVE TO SHARE THOSE ENTRANCE POINTS COMING IN AND OUT OF THE SITE.

WE WOULD NEED TO SHARE THOSE BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE BUILDING AN ACCESS DRIVE.

WELL, I'LL GO TO THE SITE PLAN.

SO LIKE THIS BACK REAR ACCESS DRIVE ON THE WESTERN SIDE IS TO CONNECT AND TO CONNECT THE BANK.

AND THAT'S TO CREATE MORE CONNECTIVITY WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT HERE.

AND YOU KNOW THEY MENTIONED THAT FRONT ACCESS DRIVE BEING VERY BUSY POTENTIALLY AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

IF WE WERE ALLOWED TO PRESENT AND TO COME FORWARD WITH THIS OPTION, WE WOULD BE PROVIDING A SECOND ACCESS POINT AND A SECOND POINT OF CONNECTION FROM THE GETTING DOWN TO THE WILLIAM TATE AVENUE TO GET THAT ACROSS AND TO BE ABLE TO COME IN NOT ONLY TO THE BANK, BUT THEY COULD EVEN GO FURTHER SOUTH.

IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AERIAL AGAIN, THEY COULD COME OUT TO THE INTERSECTION AND THE STREETLIGHT OUT THERE TO MAKE SAFER TURNS AS WELL.

THAT WAY, VERSUS TRYING TO MAKE THE UNCONTROLLED SIGNAL THAT WOULD BE KIND OF MID-BLOCK, SO TO SPEAK, IN BETWEEN THE MAJOR INTERSECTION THAT WE HAVE, OUR MINOR INTERSECTION THAT'S JUST TO THE SOUTH THERE.

AND SO WE WOULD BE DOING THAT.

I DON'T THINK THAT IF WE WERE TO RELOCATE ON THAT ADJACENT SITE, AS YOU SAID, AT THAT POINT, GIVING THE DRIVEWAY SPACINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS ALONG 26 AND BEING TXDOT, WE WOULD HAVE TO UTILIZE THOSE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS STILL TODAY BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT MEET ANY OF THE DRIVEWAY SPACINGS TO GET AN ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAY IN BETWEEN THE TWO THAT ARE THAT ARE EXISTING THERE TODAY.

THANK YOU. SO THE SO THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT YOU SAW, PEAK PERIOD IN THE OTHER PLACES YOU LOOKED AT, REMIND ME THAT NUMBER AGAIN THAT WE KIND OF NEED TO THINK OF AS THE HIGH END FOR THE STACKING. SO, WHAT WE SAW IN THOSE OBSERVATIONS WERE ABOUT TEN.

WE DO REALIZE AGAIN THAT THERE ARE CAR WASHES THAT DO MORE THAN THAT.

WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT. FAIR ENOUGH.

AND SO WE TOOK THAT NUMBER AND WE DOUBLED IT.

AND THEN I GUESS THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SPARE ON ONE CAR ON WHAT IT IS AS A SAFETY FACTOR, JUST TO TRY TO PREVENT THAT, KNOWING WHERE WE ARE ON THE SITE AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT. SO THE STACKING THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED, EXCLUDING FIRE LANES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, JUST LITERALLY IN THE DRIVEWAY, APPROACHING INTO THE CAR WASH TUNNEL IS HOW MANY HOW MANY CARS? 21.

OKAY. SO IF YOU LOOK ON AND IF YOU LOOK ON SP TWO IN YOUR PACKET THERE FROM THE PAY WINDOW, WE ACTUALLY NUMBERED THE ONES FROM THE PAY WINDOW JUST GOING BACK. AND THERE'S 16 THERE THAT WE HAVE.

AND THOSE DIMENSIONS, JUST SO YOU GUYS ARE AWARE IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 18 FOOT FOR THE CARS JUST LIKE A NORMAL PARKING SPACE.

AND THEN WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT EXTRA.

WE SEPARATED THOSE OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE TYPICALLY NOT EXACTLY BUMPER TO BUMPER THERE.

AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER FIVE CARS THAT CAN STACK FROM THE PAY, YOU KNOW, THE PAY ARM ALL THE WAY AROUND TO THE ENTRANCE TO THE TUNNEL.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE 21.

FAIR ENOUGH. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE? NO, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. CLOSE. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CLOSED.

A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

MOVED CLOSE. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

THE MOTION CARRIES. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

HEARING IS OPEN ON ZONING CHANGE.

[4. Zoning Change Application Z24-07, Planned Development Overlay PD24-06 and Historic Landmark District HL24-01 (717 East Worth Street) - City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Neal Cooper requesting to rezone 0.407 acre from “RMF-2”, Multifamily District to “R-7.5”, Single-Family District to construct two singlefamily lots. The applicant is also requesting a planned development overlay to deviate from but not limited to minimum lot width and front yard setback City Council October 15, 2024 Page 2 requirements from Section 15 of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance, No. 82- 73. The applicant is also requesting designation as a Historical Landmark subdistrict. Such sub-district may include buildings, land, areas, or districts of historical, architectural, archaeological or cultural importance or value that merit protection, enhancement, and preservation in the interest of the culture, prosperity, education, and welfare of the people. The subject property is located at 717 East Worth Street. ]

APPLICATION Z 24-7 AND DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY PD 2406 AND HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT HL 2401.

ERICA MAROHNIC.

THIS REQUEST IS A ZONE CHANGE TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 4/10 OF AN ACRE FROM THE RMF TWO MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT TO R SEVEN AND A HALF SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH THE INTENT TO CONSTRUCT TWO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED STRUCTURES ON TWO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOTS.

THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY REQUEST IS TO DEVIATE FROM MINIMUM LOT WIDTH AND FRONT YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING THE SUBJECT SITE BE DESIGNATED AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK SUBDISTRICT.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 717 EAST WORTH STREET AND IS DEVELOPED WITH AN EXISTING ONE STOREY APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO DEMOLISH, EXCUSE ME TO ADJUST THE INTERNAL LOT LINE TO MORE EVENLY DIVIDE TO CREATE THE TWO RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY STRUCTURE.

THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING APPROVAL OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY TO DEVIATE FROM REQUIRED MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF 65FT.

BOTH LOTS ARE PROPOSED TO BE APPROXIMATELY 64FT IN CHANGE, AND TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD SETBACK FOR BOTH LOTS FROM 30FT TO 25FT.

TO BE MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE BLOCK FACE ADJACENT AND ALONG WORTH STREET WITHIN THE HISTORIC TOWNSHIP.

THE PROPERTY IS ALSO SITUATED WITHIN THE COLLEGE HEIGHTS ADDITION, WHICH IS WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF THE HISTORIC GRAPEVINE TOWNSHIP.

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THE COLLEGE HEIGHTS ADDITION WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE 1920S AND HOLDS HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE AS PART OF THE EARLY DEVELOPMENT AND EXPANSION OF THE TOWN IN THE MID 20TH CENTURY. THE PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY TWO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOTS AND STRUCTURES, UNTIL IT WAS REDEVELOPED INTO THE MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEX IN 1963 AND HAS REMAINED SO TO THIS DAY.

THE APPLICANT, MR. NEIL COOPER, IS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL OR COMMISSION MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

MR. COOPER. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS NEIL COOPER. I LIVE AT 404 EAST WALL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

SO, AS ERICA SAID, THIS IS PRETTY EXCITING.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A MULTI-FAMILY UNIT, AND WE'RE GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN, AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN IT.

IT IS AN HISTORIC DISTRICT, SO IT'S GOING TO BE FOLLOWING HISTORIC GUIDELINES, AND IT IS A LANDMARK PROPERTY.

THE EXCITING THING ABOUT THIS IS THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM GRAPEVINE FAITH.

WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME FAMILIES THAT HAVE KIDS GOING TO GRAPEVINE FAITH AND MOVE IN, AND THE KIDS CAN WALK ACROSS THE STREET.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL WITH THESE.

WE HAVE SOME MORE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS ON.

SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THIS PROCESS IN THAT AREA.

AND I THINK IT'LL MAKE A PRETTY DRAMATIC CHANGE TO THE AREA THERE.

SO, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT AND I HOPE YOU ARE TOO.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, ANY QUESTIONS? I'M CONFUSED.

FORGIVE ME.

WHICH ARE THE DRIVEWAYS INTO THE GARAGE? ARE THEY BOTH THE MIDDLE? YES, MIDDLE. SIX FOOT STRIPS.

AND THEN YOU TURN. NO, THEY'RE ACTUALLY ON THE OUTSIDE.

OKAY. THEY'RE ON THE OUTSIDES OF THE LOTS WHERE IT SAYS SIDE YARD.

THAT'S NOT REALLY A YARD, RIGHT? THE GARAGES ARE OFFSET, AND SO THE OUTSIDE OF THE TWO LOTS WILL BE THE DRIVEWAYS.

AND THAT ACTS AS A BUFFER TO THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON BOTH SIDES OF IT.

OKAY. AND THEN SO THEN YOU JUST NEED TO BACK OUT.

YES. YOU WOULD BACK OUT.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN? NO OTHER QUESTIONS? NO OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. PRESIDENT. ANYBODY? ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? MR. COOPER? I HAVE ONE.

I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS HEARING.

I CAN SAY THE FACILITIES ARE VACANT, AND IT'S COINCIDES WITH OUR PLAN TO TRY TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THOSE MULTIFAMILIES IN THE RESIDENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT AND REPLACE THEM WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

SO I'M GLAD YOU FIGURED OUT A WAY TO DO THAT.

I CAN'T WAIT TO SUPPORT YOU.

WELL, WE APPRECIATE THE PATIENCE OF MR. TICKNER, TOO. THIS HAS BEEN THREE YEARS ACTUALLY ON WORKING THROUGH THIS.

SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED THAT EVERYBODY'S HELPED WORK THROUGH THIS.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT, TOO.

MR. COOPER, JUST FOR A POINT OF INFORMATION, THERE'S A 15 FOOT ALLEY BEHIND THIS PROPERTY.

WHAT'S GOING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT? IS THAT PART OF THIS PROPERTY? IS IT? I THINK IT BELONGS TO THE CITY, DOESN'T IT? IT BELONGS TO THE CITY.

THE HOPE IS THAT WE'LL BE DOING THE APARTMENT UNIT BEHIND IT AT THAT TIME.

THE PLAN IS TO TRY TO ABANDON THAT AND TO BRING THAT LAND BACK ONTO THE TWO PROPERTIES.

BUT IT WOULD REMAIN AN EASEMENT.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHERS? NO, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY LETTERS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVE TO CLOSE.

ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION CLOSED.

A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO CLOSE.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON ZONING CHANGE APPLICATIONS Z 24-08 AND A FINAL PLAT OF BLOCKS ONE, LOTS ONE AND FIVE GRAPEVINE COLLEGE

[5. Zoning Change Application Z24-08 (416 East College Street) and a Final Plat of Block 1, Lots 1-5, Grapevine College Heritage Addition - City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Ridinger Associates, Inc. requesting to rezone 1.314 acres from “GV”, Grapevine Vintage District to “R-7.5”, Single-Family District to construct four single-family homes. The subject property is located at 416 East College Street. ]

HERITAGE EDITION.

ERICA MAROHNIC.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 1.3 ACRES FROM THE GV GRAPEVINE VINTAGE DISTRICT TO R SEVEN AND A HALF SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO CONSTRUCT FOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 416 EAST COLLEGE STREET.

THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO DEVELOP FOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

THE PROPOSED FOUR LOTS ARE THE NORTHERN PORTION OF AN EXISTING 1.8 ACRE LOT.

FORMER LA BUENA VIDA VINEYARDS WITH FRONTAGE ALONG EAST COLLEGE STREET.

THE SOUTHERN PORTION PROPOSED LOT FIVE WILL REMAIN FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND RETAIN ITS GV GRAPEVINE VINTAGE DISTRICT ZONING.

AT THIS TIME, ALL FOUR LOTS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WILL MEET MINIMUM, LOT, BLOCK AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE R SEVEN AND A HALF SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS.

THE APPLICANT, MR. LEMOINE WRIGHT, IS HERE THIS EVENING.

HE'S PREPARED A PRESENTATION AND AVAILABLE TO SPEAK TO ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

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MY IT SPECIALIST I HAVE TO AGREE WITH LEMOYNE WRIGHT, 213 EAST COLLEGE STREET.

AND WE'RE FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY.

USED TO BE SOMETHING VERY NICE MANY YEARS AGO, BUT IT'S BEEN IN DISREPAIR FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

SO, I'VE BEEN, WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH DAVID AND P.W.

ABOUT THIS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL AND PROVIDE INFORMATION TO ANY PURCHASER TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE WANTS TO SEE IN THIS EAST OR THE COLLEGE STREET HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO WE WANT TO GIVE THAT TO THEM UP FRONT.

SO NO SURPRISES THAT WE HAVE FOUR LOTS.

THERE ARE ROUGHLY 72 FOOT WIDE AND 195 FOOT DEEP, A LITTLE OVER 14,000 SQUARE FOOT EACH.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO, ANSWER THOSE.

ANYTHING TECHNICAL? JASON KILPATRICK'S HERE.

SO. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS? CORRECT. COMMISSIONER JASON, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YES. MR. LEMOINE, WITH LOT FIVE, ARE YOU WILLING TO SHARE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE THINKING ABOUT THERE? WELL, WE'RE UNDECIDED AT THIS POINT.

THAT'S WHY IT'S LEFT OUT.

SO ASSUMING THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE OFFICE AT SOME POINT OR POTENTIALLY ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL LOT.

BUT IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT LOT, IT'S A NOT SO WELL MANICURED.

WE HAVE A LOT OF STORAGE THERE, SO WE JUST WANT TO LEAVE THAT ONE UP IN THE AIR UNTIL WE DETERMINE THE BEST USE.

ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU TWO, BECAUSE I DIDN'T TAKE A LOT OF LOOK AT THIS, I JUST I LIKED WHAT'S GOING ON OBVIOUSLY, BUT WHY NOT OUR 12 FIVE SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE AT 14,000 ON EVERYTHING? IS THERE A REASON THE LOT WIDTH ISSUE.

OKAY. YEAH.

YEAH. SO, WE'RE ABLE TO FIT INTO OUR SEVEN FIVE WITH NO VARIANCES.

SO THAT WORKED OUT.

IT LOOKS LIKE LOT TWO IS COVERED WITH EASEMENTS.

ARE YOU GOING TO BE RELOCATING.

LOOKS LIKE DRAINAGE.

WELL IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING TO LOOK AT RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S AN EXISTING STORM DRAIN AND EXISTING CENTER SEWER THAT RUNS FROM COLLEGE STREET TO THE SOUTH.

AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TO RELOCATE BOTH OF THOSE LINES INTO THE NEW EASEMENTS THAT YOU SEE ON THE PLAT.

AND ONCE THOSE ARE INSTALLED, THEN WE COME BACK AND GET THE EXISTING EASEMENTS ABANDONED AND CLEAN THAT UP.

OKAY. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

CHEERS TO YOU, TOO, MR. WRIGHT. THIS IS ANOTHER JOHN LEE FOR OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT TO CLEAN UP THIS AREA THAT'S INVADED WHAT'S BECOME ONE OF THE NICEST RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN THE METROPLEX.

I APPRECIATE YOUR ABILITY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THIS CONVERSION.

SO CONGRATULATIONS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? WOULD THESE ALL OF THESE LOTS WILL BE OPEN TO WHOEVER PURCHASES THEM TO.

OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT THEY'D BE OPEN TO ANY STYLE OR.

WELL, NOT ANY STYLE, BUT I MEAN, THEY'LL BE UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL BUYERS, PURCHASERS TO BUILD THE HOUSE THEY WANT.

WELL, RIGHT NOW THEY'D BE CURRENTLY RESTRICTED BY ALL OF OUR RESTRICTIONS FOR THAT PARTICULAR HISTORIC DISTRICT.

RIGHT. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S A REVISION OR DESIGN MANUAL THAT'S ABOUT DONE.

IT GIVES MORE DETAIL FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.

SO. BUT YOU'RE NOT HAVING SOMEONE COME IN AND JUST TRY TO BUILD FOUR HOUSES.

NO, THESE WILL ALL BE SOLD TO JUST INDIVIDUALS.

YES. THEY'LL ALL HAVE TO GO THROUGH HPC FOR THEIR APPROVALS.

RIGHT, SIR? THEY'LL ALL HAVE TO GO THROUGH HPC FOR THEIR.

YES. ALL OF THOSE WILL HAVE TO COME.

ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS ZONING AND A PLAT.

SO IT'S EXCITING.

IT IS. IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT YOU KNOW THAT AS YOU SAY THAT WAS A NICE PROPERTY YEARS AGO.

BUT IT'S BEEN SO SAD TO LOOK AT THAT ALL THESE YEARS.

SO I'M SO GLAD YOU'VE DONE THAT AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE SOME NICE HOUSES THERE.

SO ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE? NO. YOU JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT IN FRONT OF YOU CONCERNING MR. CHAIRMAN. OKAY.

WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. CLOSE. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CLOSED.

A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

CLOSED. SECOND.

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FAVOR. ALL OPPOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

THAT COMPLETES OUR JOINT MEETING.

THE SEPARATION WILL OCCUR.

NOW, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN FOLLOWING THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING.

IF YOU WANT TO STAY HERE AND PARTICIPATE IN OUR REMAINING AGENDA, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. LARRY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY. WE'LL BEGIN WITH CITIZEN COMMENTS.

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS TONIGHT? YES, WE HAVE ONE.

ALL RIGHT. CITIZENS COMMENTS IS WHERE A PERSON IS NOT SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA.

MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS OR ON ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEM BY COMPLETING A CITIZEN APPEARANCE REQUEST FORM WITH THE CITY SECRETARY.

A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, EITHER BEFORE OR DURING THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

UPON BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR ON THE CONSENT OF THE COUNCIL.

CITIZENS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

THE CITY COUNCIL IS RESTRICTED IN DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION DURING CITIZEN COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU INTRODUCE THE SPEAKER? RICK CLARK, 2603 LONE STAR LANE.

MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL.

MR. CITY MANAGER, OF COURSE.

MR. ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

MY NAME IS RICK CLARK.

I LIVE AT 2603 LONE STAR LANE GRAPEVINE.

I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE 1986.

I'M ACTUALLY A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF THE GRAPEVINE.

MY GRANDPARENTS LIVED HERE AS WELL.

I'M HERE TODAY TO GIVE YOU SOME UPLIFTING NEWS.

NOBODY'S GOT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT NOTHING.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

REALLY? REALLY. THANK YOU.

I'M HERE TODAY TO COMMEND AND THANK SIX OF YOUR CITY EMPLOYEES ON BEHALF OF OVER 100 PEOPLE THAT HAVE ATTENDED SOME PRESENTATIONS THAT THEY GAVE.

FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO DO IS.

THANK SOME MEMBERS OF THE GRAPEVINE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

CHIEF HAMLIN, CHIEF STIMAC, CAPTAIN EASLEY, HE'S NOT HERE.

HE WAS. I BELIEVE YOU'D HEAR HIM AND DETECTIVE PETERSON FOR THE PRESENTATIONS THEY GAVE.

ACCORDING TO WHAT THE FBI SAYS, THIS IS THE FASTEST GROWING CRIME IN AMERICA.

IT'S ELDERLY FINANCIAL FRAUD.

AND CAPTAIN EASLEY AND DETECTIVE PETERSON, EXCUSE ME, GAVE A PRESENTATION ON WEDNESDAY THE 25TH OF SEPTEMBER AT THE GRAPEVINE.

SENIOR CITIZENS AND MEMBERS OF THE GRAPEVINE REC.

THE PRESENTATION WAS 90 MINUTES.

EVERYONE EVER ATTENDED SAID THAT THIS WAS ONE OF THE BEST PRESENTATIONS THEY'D EVER SEEN, AND IT GAVE THEM A MASSIVELY BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM OF SENIOR FRAUD, AND ALSO HOW TO BETTER PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR FINANCES FROM OTHER FRAUDULENT SCAMS. SO, CHIEF HAMLIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF SAMMUT AND YOUR TWO OTHER EMPLOYEES.

THIS IS NOT IN ANY ORDER.

ACTUALLY, IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE LAST PERSON WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST.

BUT THE SECOND ONE IS I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND AND THANK THE GRAPEVINE FIRE CHIEF DARRYL BROWN.

THANK YOU CHIEF. HE SHOWED UP LAST WEDNESDAY.

NOW, I'M NOT A POWERPOINT GUY.

I'VE HAD DEATH BY POWERPOINT MY WHOLE CAREER.

BUT HE GAVE A POWERPOINT THAT WAS SIMPLY MAGNIFICENT.

AND I DO MEAN MAGNIFICENT.

HE PRESENTED A COMPLETE BREAKDOWN OF THE GRAPEVINE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND HOW IT WORKS, HOW HIS STAFF WORKED THEIR EQUIPMENT, THE DIFFERENT FIRE SUBSTATIONS, HOW THEY OPERATE, HOW THEY'RE STAFFED, WHAT THEIR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.

HE EVEN MENTIONED THE LAKE AND IRONICALLY, WHAT HAPPENED A FEW DAYS LATER.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT.

HE SPOKE ABOUT HOW OTHER FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER AGENCIES ASSISTED AND HELPED IN THE GRAPEVINE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHEN THEY HAVE THE MAJOR ISSUES, AS WE SAW, EIGHT OTHER CITIES HELPED ON THAT SITUATION AT THE LAKE.

SO, CHIEF BROWN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EXTREMELY PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND KNOWLEDGEABLE STAFF AND ASSISTING THE SENIOR CITIZENS OF GRAPEVINE.

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AND LASTLY, PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRST, BUT I WANT TO ALSO THANK THE PARK AND REC CENTERS, CHRIS AND TRENT.

TRENT IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT SPECIFICALLY MEGAN VARNER.

SHE'S THE ADULT SUPERVISOR FOR THE FOR THE ACTIVE ADULTS.

HER AND HER STAFF WERE HELPING MAKE THIS PROGRAM HAPPEN.

THE PROGRAMS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED, BUT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AS GOOD IF NOT BEEN FOR WHAT MEGAN DID AND HELPED TO MAKE THIS A BETTER SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK DUFF.

THANK YOU. DUFF. I TOLD YOU IT WAS GOING TO BE NICE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT. I HAVE A PRESENTATION TO MAKE.

[7. Mayor Tate to present a proclamation recognizing the Monarch Pledge. ]

A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE MONARCH PLEDGE.

THE MONARCH BUTTERFLY IS AN ICONIC NORTH AMERICAN SPECIES WHOSE MULTIGENERATIONAL MIGRATION AND METAMORPHOSIS FROM CATERPILLAR TO BUTTERFLIES CAPTURED THE IMAGINATION OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS IN THE 1990S.

HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF EASTERN MONARCH BUTTERFLIES MIGRATED TO MEXICO.

SINCE THEN, THE POPULATION HAS DECLINED TO APPROXIMATELY 100 MILLION DUE TO HABITAT DESTRUCTION.

CITIES, TOWNS AND COUNTIES HAVE A CRITICAL ROLE TO PLAY TO HELP SAVE THE MONARCH BUTTERFLY.

THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE HAS PLAYED A LEADERSHIP ROLE, PROVIDING A HABITAT AT PUBLIC PARKS.

MEDIAN STRIPS.

COMMUNITY GARDENS AND MULTIPLE BUILDINGS.

MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS.

EVERY RESIDENT OF GRAPEVINE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THE MONARCH BY PLANTING NATIVE MILKWEED AND NECTAR PLANTS TO PROVIDE HABITAT FOR THE MONARCH AND THE POLLINATORS AND LOCATIONS WHERE PEOPLE LIVE, WORK, LEARN, PLAY, AND WORSHIP.

ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE WHO HAVE ALREADY JOINED ME IN CREATING HEALTHY HABITAT FOR THESE MAGNIFICENT BUTTERFLIES, I'M HONORED TO JOIN OTHER MAYORS WITH SIGNING THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE FEDERATION'S MAYORS, MONARCH PLEDGE AND CITY OF GRAPEVINE AND DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 2024 AS MONARCH PLEDGE MONTH AND ASK OUR CITIZENS TO TAKE A PART IN INCREASING AWARENESS OF THE PLIGHT OF THESE AMAZING CREATURES IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE ALSO SO CELEBRATE.

BUTTERFLY FLUTTER BY HONOR AND BRING ATTENTION TO THE MONARCH BUTTERFLY.

SO, DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU? YES. CHRIS. KEVIN.

OKAY, WELL, KEVIN, YOU GET THE PROCLAMATION.

YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE? YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT THE BUTTERFLY FLUTTER BY COMING UP RIGHT QUICK.

YES, SIR.

HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS PLEDGE.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED DEDICATION TO SUPPORTING THE IMPORTANCE OF POLLINATORS.

GRAPEVINE HAS DONE A FABULOUS JOB THROUGH THE YEARS OF SUPPORTING AND MAINTAINING, RESTORING AND DEVELOPING THESE HABITATS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR DAILY LIVES.

AREAS SUCH AS THE BOTANICAL GARDENS, THE PARK POLLINATOR PRAIRIE.

THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT HABITATS FOR THE MONARCH AND FOR THESE POLLINATORS.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF ALL OF THAT.

I DO INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT TO THE BUTTERFLY FLUTTER BY, WHICH IS THIS SATURDAY AT THE BOTANICAL GARDENS.

THE EVENT TAKES PLACE FROM 10 A.M.

TO 2 P.M.

AND AGAIN PROVIDES EDUCATION AND RESOURCES TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND PROTECTION OF THIS HABITAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE A RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-017, AUTHORIZING ACCEPTANCE OF FUNDS FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS.

[8. Consider Resolution No. 2024-017 authorizing the acceptance of funds for the State of Texas, Office of the Governor, Crimes Against Women Formula Grant Program for Fiscal Year 2024-2025 and Ordinance No. 2024-091 appropriating the funds. This is a three (3) year grant, renewable each year by the end of its cycle (September 30th) and take any necessary action.]

OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR CRIMES AGAINST WOMEN FORMULA GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 AND ORDINANCE, 2024-091.

APPROPRIATING THE FUND.

THIS IS A THREE YEAR GRANT RENEWABLE EACH YEAR BY THE END OF THE CYCLE.

CHIEF MIKE HAMLIN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

IN THIS ITEM THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN SELECTED TO RECEIVE GRANT FUNDS FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS.

OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR.

THE FUNDS ARE CRIMES AGAINST WOMEN FORMULA GRANT PROGRAM FUNDS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.

THE THREE YEAR REIMBURSABLE GRANT WILL ENABLE THE DEPARTMENT TO DEDICATE ONE ADDITIONAL DETECTIVE POSITION TO BE SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON CRIMES AGAINST WOMEN.

IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, THE DEPARTMENT APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT AND RECENTLY RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF THE AWARD.

THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR HAS ALLOCATED REIMBURSEMENT FUNDING THAT WILL COVER 70% OF THE COST OF THE POSITION, WHILE THE CITY WILL CONTRIBUTE A MATCHING 30%.

THE CRIMES AGAINST WOMEN DETECTIVE WILL INVESTIGATE POTENTIAL CASES OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SEXUAL ASSAULT, DATING VIOLENCE, STALKING AND HUMAN HUMAN

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TRAFFICKING. AND SO, BECAUSE IT'S A THREE YEAR GRANT, WE LOOKED AT THE PAST THREE YEARS, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE VOLUME OF CASES THAT COULD BE OUT THERE.

SO LOOKING FROM OCTOBER OF 2021 THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR, WE HAD 414 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES.

114 SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES.

AND THIS IS A GENERAL.

961 FELONY CASES WERE IN ALL OF THESE CASES.

FEMALES WERE VICTIMS. BEYOND THE INVESTIGATIONS, THIS POSITION WILL ASSIST VICTIMS, COLLABORATE WITH ADVOCACY GROUPS AND ENSURE THE COLLECTION AND PROCESSING OF EVIDENCE.

BEFORE YOU TODAY IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-17 TO AUTHORIZE THE FINAL APPLICATION STEP AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE GRANT FUNDS AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-091 TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR THE POSITION.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS.

I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF BOTH ORDINANCES AND JUST SAY GOOD WORK.

I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. CHIEF. NEXT, CONSIDER AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE AND THE CITY OF EULESS FOR TEMPORARY ANIMAL SHELTER SERVICES.

[9. Consider an agreement between the City of Grapevine and the City of Euless for temporary animal shelter services and take any necessary action. ]

CHIEF HAMLIN. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR COUNCIL, IN THIS, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF EULESS TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY HOUSING AND ADOPTION SERVICES FOR THEIR SURRENDERED AND STRAY CATS DURING THE RENOVATION OF THE EULESS ANIMAL SHELTER.

THIS AGREEMENT WILL NOT INCLUDE DOGS.

IN MAY OF THIS YEAR, THE CITY OF EULESS AND THEIR CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM APPROACHED THE GRAPEVINE ANIMAL SERVICES REQUESTING ASSISTANCE WITH THIS EFFORT.

AS A RESULT, AN AGREEMENT WAS ACHIEVED WHEREBY A GRAPEVINE WOULD SHELTER ONLY CATS FOR THE CITY OF EULESS, AS THE GRAPEVINE ANIMAL SHELTER HAS CAPACITY TO DO SO. RENOVATIONS OF THE EULESS ANIMAL SHELTER ARE SCHEDULED TO BEGIN IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR, WHICH WILL RESTRICT THEIR ABILITY TO HOUSE AND ADOPT STRAY AND SURRENDERED CATS.

THIS AGREEMENT STIPULATES THAT THE CITY OF EULESS WILL COVER ALL COSTS RELATED TO HOUSING, CARE, TRANSPORTATION, AND COMPLAINT MANAGEMENT.

THROUGHOUT THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT, THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE WILL RETAIN FULL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY CONCERNING THE WELFARE AND CARE OF CATS AND WILL COLLECT, COLLECT AND KEEP ALL ADOPTION FEES.

THIS AGREEMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT THEIR SEPTEMBER 24TH COUNCIL MEETING, AND WITH YOUR APPROVAL, IT WILL TAKE IT WILL TAKE EFFECT UPON THE COMMENCEMENT OF CONSTRUCTION WITH THE US ANIMAL SHELTER.

IT WILL REMAIN EFFECTIVE FOR 365 DAYS, WITH AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL AND A TERMINATION OPTION IF NECESSARY.

WITH THAT, THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL, AND WE'LL TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

CHIEF, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THEIR DOGS? I DO NOT. THEY'RE NOT COMING HERE.

FAIR ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE OBVIOUSLY HAD THOSE SAME TYPE OF AGREEMENTS WITH.

YES, WE DID WITH OTHER CITIES WHEN WE REDID OUR ANIMAL SHELTER.

YES, EXACTLY. I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIED.

THANK YOU. CHIEF.

THIS BRINGS US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEM TEN THROUGH 25 ARE NOT SCHEDULED FOR ANY COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

ANY PRESIDENT CAN ASK THAT ANY ITEM BE REMOVED FOR FURTHER DEBATE.

DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS? ALL RIGHT. THE CONSENT IS ITEM TEN THROUGH 25.

A MOTION IS IN ORDER.

I MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TEN THROUGH 28.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

THE CONSENT IS APPROVED.

MAYOR. MAYOR, WE HAVE ERICA HERE TO DO THE ARA.

[26. Conditional Use Permit CU24-41 (Bull Lion Ranch Winery) - Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-092, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

ERICA IS HERE TO DO THE P AND Z.

SHE'S HERE TO GIVE THE RECOMMENDATION.

YES, I'M GOING TO.

I'M GOING TO CALL THE FIRST ONE, IF THAT'S OKAY.

ITEM 26, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 24- 41, BULL LION RANCH WINERY.

YES, MA'AM. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL 7 TO 0.

DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OR DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL? I'LL MOVE TO ACCEPT THE PNC RECOMMENDATION.

DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? ABSTAIN.

ONE ABSTENTION. THANK YOU.

BACK TO YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. ITEM 27.

[27. Conditional Use Permit CU24-39 (Club Carwash) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-093, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2439 CLUB CAR WASH.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL SIX ONE.

I'LL TAKE. I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF DENIAL.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 28 THE FINAL PLAT OF BLOCK ONE.

[28. Final Plat of Block 1, Lots 14R-1R1 & 14R-1R2, Towne Center Addition No. 2. - Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

LOTS 14 R THROUGH ONE R AND 14 R-1 R2.

TOWN CENTER EDITION NUMBER TWO.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL 6 TO 1.

I'LL MOVE FOR DENIAL.

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SECOND. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION.

YOU HAVE TO READ IT. OH, DO YOU HAVE TO READ IT? I'M ASKING. NO, NOT ON IT.

NOT ON A DENIAL. OKAY.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ IT FOR DENIAL. WE'RE GOOD TO GO.

WE'RE GOOD TO GO. I MAKE THE MOTION.

I SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 29, ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION Z 24-07 FOR 717 EAST WALL STREET.

[29. Zoning Change Application Z24-07 (717 East Worth Street) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-094, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 7 TO 0.

I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 30.

[30. Planned Development Overlay PD24-06 (717 East Worth Street) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-095, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY REQUEST PD 24-06 FOR THE SAME PROPERTY.

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 7 TO 0.

I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 31 THE HISTORIC LANDMARK SUBDISTRICT HL 24-01 FOR SAME PROPERTY.

[31. Historic Landmark District HL24-01 (717 East Worth Street) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-096, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 7 TO 0.

I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 32 ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION Z 24-08 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 416 EAST COLLEGE STREET.

[32. Zoning Change Application Z24-08 (416 East College Street) - Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-097, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 7 TO 0.

I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. ABSTAIN.

ITEM 33 THE FINAL PLAT OF BLOCK ONE.

[33. Final Plat of Block 1, Lots 1-5, Grapevine College Heritage Addition – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

LOTS ONE THROUGH FIVE. GRAPEVINE COLLEGE HERITAGE EDITION.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 7 TO 0.

I MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE STATEMENT OF FINDINGS IN THE FINAL PLAT OF LOT ONE THROUGH FIVE, BLOCK ONE GRAPEVINE COLLEGE HERITAGE EDITION.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

THAT COMPLETES THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

OUR AGENDA. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.

A MOTION TO ADJOURN IS IN ORDER.

LEFEBVRE SECOND.

COUNCIL STANDS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

CALL TO ORDER

1. Invocation and Pledge of Allegiance: Commissioner Monica Hotelling

CITIZEN COMMENTS

7. Mayor Tate to present a proclamation recognizing the Monarch Pledge.

9. Consider an agreement between the City of Grapevine and the City of Euless for temporary animal shelter services and take any necessary action.

CONSENT AGENDA

26. Conditional Use Permit CU24-41 (Bull Lion Ranch Winery) - Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-092, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

27. Conditional Use Permit CU24-39 (Club Carwash) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-093, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

28. Final Plat of Block 1, Lots 14R-1R1 & 14R-1R2, Towne Center Addition No. 2. - Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

29. Zoning Change Application Z24-07 (717 East Worth Street) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-094, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

30. Planned Development Overlay PD24-06 (717 East Worth Street) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-095, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

31. Historic Landmark District HL24-01 (717 East Worth Street) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-096, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

32. Zoning Change Application Z24-08 (416 East College Street) - Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-097, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

33. Final Plat of Block 1, Lots 1-5, Grapevine College Heritage Addition – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

Oct 15, 2024 Regular City Council & Joint Planning and Zoning Commission

CALL TO ORDER

1. Invocation and Pledge of Allegiance: Commissioner Monica Hotelling

CITIZEN COMMENTS

7. Mayor Tate to present a proclamation recognizing the Monarch Pledge.

9. Consider an agreement between the City of Grapevine and the City of Euless for temporary animal shelter services and take any necessary action.

CONSENT AGENDA

26. Conditional Use Permit CU24-41 (Bull Lion Ranch Winery) - Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-092, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

27. Conditional Use Permit CU24-39 (Club Carwash) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-093, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

28. Final Plat of Block 1, Lots 14R-1R1 & 14R-1R2, Towne Center Addition No. 2. - Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

29. Zoning Change Application Z24-07 (717 East Worth Street) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-094, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

30. Planned Development Overlay PD24-06 (717 East Worth Street) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-095, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

31. Historic Landmark District HL24-01 (717 East Worth Street) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-096, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

32. Zoning Change Application Z24-08 (416 East College Street) - Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-097, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

33. Final Plat of Block 1, Lots 1-5, Grapevine College Heritage Addition – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission, if applicable, and take any necessary action.

Oct 15, 2024 Regular City Council & Joint Planning and Zoning Commission

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