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>> 7:00 MEETING TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

CITY COUNCIL RECESS TO THE CITY COUNCIL CONFERENCE ROOM TO

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

CONDUCT A CLOSED SESSION IN REGARDS TO REAL PROPERTY, TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE SALE, OR BUY A REAL PROPERTY, INCLUDING 185 ACRES OF THE CITY UNDER SECTION 551072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND CONFERENCE WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF TO DISCUSS AND DELIBERATE COMMERCIAL FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

WE RECEIVED FROM BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT SEEK TO LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN THE CITY AND DISCUSS THE FINANCIAL AND OTHER INCENTIVE UNDER 551087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

WE'LL RECONVENE HERE IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES AND TAKE ANY NECESSARY ACTIONS. [INAUDIBLE]

>> YOUR HONOR.

>> THEN WE'LL CALL THE 7:30 MEETING TO ORDER AND ASK YOU RISE FOR THE INVOCATION.

[2. Invocation: Dr. Doug Page, Pastor at First Baptist Grapevine]

BARRY FORD, THE EXECUTIVE PASTOR OF THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF GRAPEVINE, AND THE POSTING OF THE COLORS AND THE PLEDGE BOY SCOUT TROOP 168.

>> FATHER I COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND ASKING YOUR BLESSINGS, YOUR GUIDANCE, AND YOUR FAVOR OF MAYOR TATE AND THIS ASSEMBLY COUNCIL.

FATHER WE RECOGNIZE YOUR SOVEREIGNTY IN OUR LIVES AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED THESE AUTHORITIES TO PROMOTE PEACE, AND ORDER, AND JUSTICE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

TONIGHT, I PRAY THAT YOU GRANT THEM WITH WISDOM TO GOVERN AMID THE CHALLENGING ISSUES OF OUR TIMES, A SINCERE THOUGHT FOR JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS, FOR THE CONFIDENCE IN WHAT IS GOOD AND FITTING, AND THE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY.

WE ALSO PRAY FOR THE AGENDA SET BEFORE THEM TODAY.

PLEASE GIVE THIS COUNCIL THE WISDOM OF WHAT WOULD PLEASE YOU AND WHAT WOULD BENEFIT THOSE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THIS GREAT CITY.

I PRAY THIS IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST. AMEN.

[3. Posting of the Colors and Pledges of Allegiance: Boy Scout Troop 168]

>> COLOR GUARD, ATTENTION.

COLOR GUARD, FORWARD MARCH.

COLOR GUARD, CROSS THE COLORS.

COLOR GUARD, HALT. COLOR GUARD, PREPARE TO POST THE COLORS. POST THE COLORS.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE TEXAS PLEDGE.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

TO, COLOR GUARD REFORM.

COLOR GUARD, RETURN TO POST.

COLOR GUARD, HALT. COLOR GUARD DISMISSED.

AUDIENCE AT EASE. PLEASE BE SEATED.

>> THANK YOU. ACTION VERY NICE.

BOY SCOUT TROOP 168. THANK YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] WELCOME TO OUR MEETING TONIGHT.

WE HAVE A FAIRLY SHORT AGENDA, THOUGH WE HAVE SOME PRESENTATIONS THAT MIGHT TAKE A WHILE.

WE HAVE A LONG CONSENT.

WE'LL BEGIN WITH CITIZEN COMMENTS.

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS TONIGHT?

>> YES, SIR. I HAVE ONE.

>> CITIZEN COMMENTS IS WHERE A PERSON MAY NOT SCHEDULE ON THE AGENDA, MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS OR ON ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEM BY COMPLETING A CITIZEN APPEARANCE REQUEST FORM WITH THE CITY SECRETARY.

THEY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE A PRESENTATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL IS LIMITED AND RESTRICTED IN DISCUSSING OR TAKING ANY ACTION UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS.

WOULD YOU INTRODUCE THE SPEAKER?

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>> YES, SIR. THOMAS CORD FROM GRAPEVINE.

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I'M HERE TO ASK FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONDUCT A REVIEW OF THE CONTRACT EXTENSION FOR REPUBLIC THAT WAS COMPLETED UNDER CITY [INAUDIBLE] CHANGE, 2022-057 AND 058.

WHILE THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED BY REPUBLIC TO JUST BE A CHANGE IN SERVICE AND A CONTRACT EXTENSION, IT HAS BECOME APPARENT THROUGH MY PARTICIPATION IN THE PILOT PROGRAM THAT REPUBLIC AND MR. STOFFELS ARE TRYING TO SNEAK PAST THIS COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS OF GRAPEVINE, A MEANS TO REDUCE OVERALL QUANTITY OF SERVICE PROVIDED WHILE INCREASING THE PRICES.

THROUGH THIS PILOT PROGRAM, I FOUND OUT THAT REPUBLIC WOULD NOW REFUSE TO COLLECT ANY TRASH ON NORMAL COLLECTION DAYS THAT WAS NOT IN THEIR BLUE TRASH CART.

THIS WAS CONFIRMED BY MR. STOFFELS.

EVEN IF RESIDENTS WERE USING THEIR OWN PERSONALLY PROVIDED CARTS, REPUBLIC WOULD NOT COLLECT, AND RESIDENTS WOULD NOW BE REQUIRED TO THEN PUT THOSE TRASH CARTS OUT DURING BULK PICKUP.

DURING THE ORIGINAL MEETING WHERE REPUBLIC PROPOSED THIS CHANGE, THE ONLY THING CITIZENS WOULD NOTICE WOULD BE USE OF THE BLUE TRASH CART.

THEY MADE A STATEMENT TO MS. FREE, I BELIEVE WHO IT WAS AT THE TIME, AND THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE FALSE.

MR. STOFFELS HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE COMPLICIT IN THE SNEAKY ACT.

AS I CONTACTED HIS OFFICE ABOUT MY CONCERNS, HE BRUSHED THEM UNDER THE RUG AND MERELY STATED AGAIN THAT RESIDENTS WOULD NOW BE HAVING TO USE THE BULK PICKUP DAYS TO HAVE THEIR NORMAL TRASH COLLECTED.

ALSO, I POINTED OUT TO HIM THAT UNDER CURRENT CITY CODE, UNDER CHAPTER 25 ARTICLE 3, IT HAS SEVERAL ITEMS THAT CONFLICT WITH THIS PROPOSED CHANGE AND THE USE OF CARTS.

AS IT STATES IN THERE, RESIDENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING AND MAINTAINING THEIR OWN TRASH CANS, THAT ALLOW FOR MANAGING OF NORMAL WASTE PRODUCED ON THE PROPERTY.

I WOULD ADVISE THE CITY CONDUCT ITS OWN RESIDENT SURVEY OF THE PERSONS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE PILOT PROGRAM AS THE SURVEY THAT REPUBLIC PROVIDED DID NOT ALLOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IT ONLY GAVE YOU A BRIEF MULTIPLE CHOICE ANSWER SUCH AS AGREE, DISAGREE, OR NO COMMENT.

I AM ALSO REQUESTING THAT THIS COUNCIL LAUNCH A REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED PUBLIC CART PROGRAM, GIVEN THAT THE NEW PROGRAM CAUSES THE NEED FOR A LARGE PORTION OF THE CURRENT CODE TO BE REWRITTEN.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION OF MR. STOFFELS, GIVEN THAT HIS ACTIONS IN THIS APPEAR TO INDICATE A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR AN ETHICAL BREACH, GIVEN HE HAS NOT TAKEN ANY ACTIONS WHEN RESIDENTS POINTED OUT THE SHORTCOMINGS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHERS?

>> NO, YOUR HONOR.

>> THAT COMPLETES CITIZEN COMMENTS.

THE NEXT ITEM IS REPUBLIC SERVICE TO PRESENT SURVEY RESULTS FOR

[5. Republic Services to present survey results for Automated Side Load trash cart collection.]

AUTOMATED SIDE LOAD CRASH CAR COLLECTION. BRIAN BECK.

>> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

ITEM 5 ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS TO RECEIVE A BRIEFING ON OUR RECENT PILOT PROGRAM TO CHANGE OUR REGULAR REFUGE SERVICE TO AN AUTOMATED SIDE LOADING PROGRAM, SIMILAR TO OUR CURRENT RECYCLING PROGRAM.

YOU MAY RECALL IN SEPTEMBER OF 22, WE ENTERED INTO A 10-YEAR AGREEMENT WITH REPUBLIC FOR CITYWIDE SOLID MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

A PROVISION OF THAT AGREEMENT WAS TO TRANSITION TO THE NEW PICKUP SYSTEM.

JERRY HARWELL, DAVID HARWELL, AND STEVE CARR, WITH REPUBLIC ARE HERE TO PROVIDE THAT UPDATE, PROVIDE NEXT STEPS, AND WE'RE ALL HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.

I'M JERRY HARWELL.

MR. CARR WAS NOT ABLE TO BE WITH US TONIGHT.

HIS WIFE IS TRAVELING AND HE HAD DAUGHTER DUTY, AND SO HE SENT HIS APOLOGIES.

AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE DID AN EDUCATION PILOT PROGRAM, AND I'LL COVER JUST A FEW OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE NEW SERVICE THAT WE'LL BE ROLLING OUT AND WHAT THE TIMELINE IS GOING TO BE AND WHAT SOME OF THE SURVEY QUESTIONS WERE AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

IT IS TRUE. WE WILL BE MOVING TOWARDS CARTS IN THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE WITH A CHOICE OF EITHER A 65 GALLON OR A 95 GALLON CART.

THE 65 GALLON CARTS ARE THE SIZE THAT WE ROLLED OUT ORIGINALLY WITH THE RECYCLE PROGRAM.

SINCE THEN, WE'VE ALLOWED RESIDENTS TO UPGRADE TO A 95 IF THEY HAVE MORE RECYCLING.

WE HAVE A MIXTURE OF 65 AND 95 GALLON RECYCLE CARTS OUT THERE, AND WE'LL HAVE THE SAME FOR THE TRASH.

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WE'LL STILL CONTINUE WITH THE ONE TIME A WEEK RECYCLE, AND THEN THE BRUSH AND THE BULK PROGRAM WILL BE ON FIRST AND THIRD WEDNESDAY IS CLEAN BRUSH ONLY, AND SECOND AND FOURTH WEDNESDAY, WILL BE BULK AND BRUSH.

WHAT THAT WILL MEAN IS THAT ALL OF THE BULK OR BRUSH WILL GO OUT ON WEDNESDAYS AND RESIDENTS WILL BE ALLOWED TO USE THEIR OWN CONTAINERS OR USE THE CRAFT BAGS FOR THE GREEN WASTE WEEKS ONLY, BUT ALL BULK AND BRUSH WILL BE ON WEDNESDAYS.

THE REASON WE'VE MADE THE CHOICE TO GO TO CARTS, REPUBLIC AS A WHOLE IS BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY OF OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT ALSO THE INABILITY TO CONTINUE TO HIRE PEOPLE TO BE ON THE BACK OF THOSE TRUCKS HAS BECOME ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU NEED 50 HELPERS FOR THE DAY, AND YOU ONLY HAVE 25 PERMANENT HELPERS? WE'RE HAVING TO USE 25 TEMP HELPERS IN THAT POSITION.

THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE, AND WE CAN'T FINISH OUR ROUTES.

IT'S BECOME NOT A JOB THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO APPLY FOR, ALTHOUGH IT IS A VERY WELL PAID JOB.

AT $24 AN HOUR.

IT'S STILL A VERY DIFFICULT JOB.

I'VE HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF BEING ABLE TO GO OUT AND RIDE ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCK AND HELP, AND THEY NORMALLY PAY ME EXTRA TO GET BACK IN THE TRUCK AND STOP SLOWING THEM DOWN.

BUT THOSE GUYS ARE WALKING AND THEY'RE RUNNING, AND IT'S IN ALL OF THE WEATHER.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES THAT ARE MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION THAT HAVE NOT ALREADY.

ON THE PILOT PROGRAM THAT WE DID, IT WAS AN EDUCATIONAL PILOT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO KNOW, WE SELECTED TWO ROUTES, ONE THAT WAS ON MONDAY, THURSDAY, ONE THAT WAS ON TUESDAY, FRIDAY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO KNOW WAS WHAT SIZE CART WOULD WORK BEST FOR THE RESIDENT.

WE WANTED TO KNOW THE INFORMATION THAT WE COMMUNICATED, IF IT WAS ENOUGH INFORMATION OR WE NEEDED TO GO INTO FURTHER DETAIL, WHENEVER WE ROLLED IT OUT TO THE REST OF THE CITY.

THEN WE LET THEM USE THE CART FOR 60 DAYS, AND THEN WE DID THE SURVEY OFFERING THE OPTION FOR ANY EMAILED COMMENTS, GOING BACK TO THE EMAIL BOX TO US, AND THOSE WERE ACTUALLY SENT DIRECTLY TO AN EMAIL BOX THAT I WAS THE ONE THAT PRIMARILY WAS READING AND PROVIDING THE ANSWERS FOR.

WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT OVER 80% OF THE RESIDENTS LIKE THE CART, MAYBE NOT THE SIZE OF THE CART.

WE DO KNOW THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 40% OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO PREFER A SMALLER CART.

THEN OTHER PEOPLE THAT NEED A 95 GALLON, WE NOTICED THAT THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 20% OF THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO NEED AN ADDITIONAL TRASH CART.

HOWEVER, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT MOST CART AT CITIES IS THEY'RE ONE TIME PER WEEK.

GRAPEVINE OPTED TO STAY WITH TWICE A WEEK.

WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE PICKING UP ALL OF THE HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE ON TWO DAYS A WEEK.

IT'LL JUST BE IN THOSE CARTS.

IN THE CART, YOU CAN GET 11-12, 33 GALLON TRASH BAGS.

YOU COULD FIT FOUR OF ME IN A CART, AND WE'VE MEASURED IT AND TRIED IT.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S AMPLE ROOM IN THOSE CARTS FOR REGULAR HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE, AND WE ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

>> WHICH SIZE CARTS ARE YOU REFERRING TO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT CAPACITY?

>> PARDON ME.

>> YOU MENTIONED 13 BAGS OR FOUR OF YOU, WHICH SIZE CART ARE YOU REFERRING TO?

>> THE 33 GALLON.

IT'LL HOLD ABOUT 10-12.

>> NOW THE 65 OR THE 95?

>> I USE LARGER IN MY OUTSIDE TRASH. I HAVE A CART.

I USE LARGER IN MY OUTSIDE, AND I CAN USUALLY GET 6-7 OF THOSE IN A 95 GALLON.

I'M IN A CITY THAT'S ONLY ONE TIME A WEEK.

I'M GOING TO GO TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO NEXT, AND THEN I'LL COVER SOME OF THE THING, AND THEN I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.

I WILL APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE.

I'M A LITTLE HEARING IMPAIRED.

I GOT OFF AN AIRPLANE, AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN MY HEARING BACK TOTALLY YET IN BOTH EARS.

IN MID AUGUST, WE WILL BE DOING A MAILER TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE IN THE PILOT PROGRAM, GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SWAP THEIR CART OR GET AN ADDITIONAL CART.

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AT THE SAME TIME, WE'LL BE DOING A MAILER TO THE REMAINING RESIDENTS OF GRAPEVINE WITH HOW THEY CAN OPT OUT OF A 95 AND GET A 65, WHAT THE GUIDELINES ARE ON THE SERVICE, WHAT CAN BE RECYCLED, WHAT CAN'T BE RECYCLED, WHAT'S GOING TO BE GREEN WASTE, EVERYTHING.

OVERALL, IT'LL BE A BROCHURE ABOUT EVERYTHING TRASH AND RECYCLE FOR GRAPEVINE.

WE'LL ALSO INCLUDE ANY HOLIDAYS THAT WILL BE IN THAT AND THEN GIVE EVERYBODY THE SAME EMAIL BOX THAT WE USE FOR THE PILOT PROGRAM SO THEY CAN REACH OUT AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS.

THOSE WILL COME DIRECTLY TO ME AND MY TEAM SO THAT WE'LL BE THE ONES THAT ARE ANSWERING THEM INSTEAD OF SENDING THOSE TO THE CALL CENTER.

I THINK THAT'LL BE MORE EFFICIENT AND A LOT EASIER.

I'LL BE THE ONE BOOTS ON THE GROUND WHEN THE CARTS ARE BEING DELIVERED AND BE ABLE TO TALK TO RESIDENTS AND GO THROUGH THAT.

MID SEPTEMBER, WE'LL START DELIVERING THE REMAINING CARTS, SWAPPING OUT CARTS FOR THOSE THAT NEED THEM SWAPPED OUT AND DOING ALL OF THAT.

THEN OCTOBER 1ST, WHICH IS PROBABLY NOT A SERVICE DAY, BUT OCTOBER THE 1ST, WE WILL START THE CART PROGRAM.

>> LET'S COVER JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE RESULTS OF THE PILOT PROGRAM.

WHEN WE ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT COMMUNICATION, WE HAD 86.2%, WERE VERY SATISFIED OR SATISFIED WITH 13.8 THAT WERE UNSATISFIED.

SOME OF THOSE REACHED OUT TO US WITH ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WE GOT THEIR ANSWER TO THEIR QUESTIONS FOR THEM, AND THEN THAT SET THAT ASIDE.

SIZE OF THE CART.

75.3% VERY SATISFIED OR SATISFIED, 24.7 UNSATISFIED OR VERY UNSATISFIED.

WHAT WE FOUND IN FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS WAS THAT THEY WANTED A SMALLER CART.

THEY DID NOT LIKE THE 95 GALLON.

CART EASY TO USE, 80.4%, 19.6.

AGAIN, WITH THAT FOLLOW UP QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE, WE BELIEVE THAT THE 65 WILL BE EASIER TO USE FOR SOME RESIDENTS.

STORAGE OF THE CART, 76.7% AND 23.3 WERE UNSATISFIED, VERY UNSATISFIED, AND THE OVERALL SATISFACTION WAS 77.5% WITH UNSATISFIED, VERY UNSATISFIED 22.5, WHICH ALSO CORRELATES BACK TO THE SIZE.

PREFERENCE, 60.6 ON THE 95, AND THEN 39.4 ON THE 65,SO I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE THE SPLIT WILL BE.

WE'LL ALWAYS KEEP THE BOTH 95 AND 65 GALLON ON HAND.

SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED BACK, THEY NEEDED A SMALLER CART, CARTS TOO LARGE.

WHAT TO DO WITH EXTRA BAGS? WILL WE PICK UP OUTSIDE OF THE CART? CAN THEY HAVE MORE THAN ONE CART? WILL THERE BE AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE FOR AN ADDITIONAL CART? YES. THEN, CAN I USE MY OWN CART OR TRASH CAN? YES, ON WEDNESDAYS? WHY IS GRAPEVINE CHANGING SERVICE? I'VE COVERED THAT WITH THE SAFETY, AND IT'S THE WAY THAT OUR INDUSTRY IS GOING.

WILL THIS INCREASE THE NUMBER OF THE TRUCKS ON THE STREET? WE BELIEVE NO. ACTUALLY, WE BELIEVE IT'LL HAVE LESS TRUCKS ON THE STREET.

ALTHOUGH WE WILL BE GOING DOWN ONE SIDE AND BACK DOWN THE OTHER SIDE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ROUTES, BECAUSE WE WILL ONLY BE DOING THE CART AND THEN INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ROUTES ON WEDNESDAY, WILL BE OUR FOCUS.

NOW, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

WE DID PICK THREE WINNERS OF THE OVER 400 RESIDENTS THAT RESPONDED.

WE DID RANDOMLY CHOOSE THREE ADDRESSES, AND THEY WILL BE GETTING THEIR GIFT CARD IN THE MAIL ALONG WITH A THANK YOU CARD FOR THE PARTICIPATION.

>> FOR THE NEW DELIVERIES, DO THEY DEFAULT TO THE 95 GALLON UNLESS THEY OPT OTHERWISE?

>> YES.

>> THAT'S HOW WE HANDLED THE PILOT AS WELL.

THEY GOT 95 GALLONS TO START.

ON THE PILOT PROGRAM, THEY ALL STARTED WITH 95 GALLON.

>> YES. WE ARE ONLY DELIVERED 95 GALLON.

THAT WAS PART OF THE PILOT AND WHAT WE WANTED TO KNOW FROM THE RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES THAT DON'T OFFER A 65 GALLON TRASH CART.

HOWEVER, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT REPUBLIC AGREED TO DO WITH THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE.

>> AND THE 95 GALLON, THAT'S COMPARABLE TO THE RECYCLE BIN, ISN'T IT? ISN'T THAT SIMILAR?

>> THERE ARE PROBABLY ABOUT 30% RESIDENTS IN GRAPEVINE THAT HAVE A 95 GALLON RECYCLE,

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BUT THE MAJORITY HAVE 65.

>> COST OF AN ADDITIONAL CART.

IF SOMEBODY WANTED AN ADDITIONAL CART, WHAT KIND OF PRICE IS THAT?

>> $6 A MONTH.

>> YOU TALKED ABOUT BRUSH PICKUPS.

IT DIDN'T SOUND ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO.

IT'S THAT, THAT'S NOT CHANGING.

>> YOUR WEDNESDAY SERVICE IS NOT CHANGING AT ALL.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO TRY TO PUT MORE FOCUS ON THE BULK, COMING OFF THE CURB MONDAY, TUESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, AND ONTO WEDNESDAYS.

>> THE WEDNESDAYS.

>> HOW MANY ADDRESSES PARTICIPATED IN THE PILOT PROGRAM?

>> A LITTLE OVER 1,500.

>> YOU GOT BACK ABOUT 400 SURVEYS, SO THAT'S ABOUT 25%.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I WAS PART OF THE PILOT PROGRAM. ANYBODY ELSE UP HERE?

>> NO.

>> I CAN GIVE YOU SOME FEEDBACK ON WHAT WE EXPERIENCED.

THE LARGE CAN IS LARGE FOR ME.

I'M A PRETTY HEALTHY GUY, I HAD SHOULDER SURGERY AND I HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH IT BECAUSE I ONLY HAD ONE ARM.

WHILE YOU CAN GET A LOT OF STUFF IN IT, IT BECOMES VERY HEAVY.

MY CONCERN IS FOR SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE MAYBE OLDER, NOT VERY HEALTHY, SPECIAL NEEDS, AND SO HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET THAT LARGER CART TO THE CURB FOR PICK UP?

>> THAT'S NOT REALLY ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU HAVE IN GRAPEVINE TODAY.

>> HANG ON BECAUSE THE CAR WE HAVE IS PROBABLY THE SMALL 165, WHICH IS THE RECYCLE YOU ASKED ABOUT THAT.

THE 65 WE GOT THE LARGER ONE, THE BLUE ONE, WHICH IS MUCH BIGGER THAN THE SMALLER WHICH IS THE RECYCLE, WHICH IS MUCH BIGGER THAN MY TRASH CAN THAT WE USE.

NOW, KEEP IN MIND, AT ONE POINT, WE HAD THREE BOYS, WE FILLED IT UP PRETTY REGULARLY.

MY WIFE AND I, WE DON'T EVEN FILL UP THE SMALLER BIN.

[NOISE] I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH SOME OF OUR AGING COMMUNITY, AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET THAT EVEN THE 64 GALLON OUT, BECAUSE IT'S BIG, TO ME, AND I THINK I'M PRETTY HEALTHY GUY.

I'M ASSUMING THE 25% MAY BE PART OF OUR OLDER COMMUNITY.

MAYBE THAT HAD ISSUES WITH THE CANS.

THERE'S NO WAY TO TELL ON YOUR SURVEYS.

>> ELDERLY RESIDENTS, DISABLED RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO SIGN UP FOR BACKDOOR SERVICE AS THEY ARE ABLE TO DO TODAY, IF THERE IS A NEED FOR THAT.

WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS THAT REACHED OUT TO ME PRIOR TO THE SURVEY, AND INDICATED THAT THEY ONLY HAVE ONE OR TWO BAGS OF TRASH A WEEK.

I SAID, "JUST PUT IT OUT ON WEDNESDAY." THEY SAID, "OH, OKAY." THERE'S GOING TO BE WORK AROUNDS AVAILABLE WHEREVER WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE WORK AROUNDS.

OBVIOUSLY, I CAN'T COME UP WITH THE 11,000 CATERED SERVICE BUT, OUR GOAL IS NOT TO PUNISH ANYONE BY THE CART.

OUR 65 GALLON CARTS HAVE BEEN TESTED ON LOTS OF ELDERLY RESIDENTS THAT ACTUALLY FIND THEM A LOT EASIER TO GET TO THE CURB, THAN IT IS TO GET THEIR OWN PERSONAL TRASH CAN DOWN THERE.

>> ASSUMING IF THEY HAD TO LIFT IT, I WOULD AGREE, BECAUSE MOST CANS THAT ARE SMALLER LIKE OUR SMALLER CAN HAD WHEELS ON IT, SO IT WAS NO DIFFERENT, AND IT WAS PRETTY EASY.

BUT, IS THERE A COST FOR THOSE OLDER COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO HAVE YOU COME AND PICK UP THE CAN CLOSER TO THEIR HOME? IS THERE ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR OUR AGING COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT CAN'T GET IT TO THE CURB? YOU SAID THAT THERE'S A PROGRAM FOR THAT SITUATION. IS THERE?

>> WE DON'T CHARGE ADDITIONAL FOR THAT TODAY.

>> ARE YOU GOING TO CHARGE DOWN THE ROAD? FOR THAT SERVICE?

>> FOR BACKDOOR SERVICE.

WITHIN THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE, WE DO NOT CHARGE FOR THAT.

>> WHAT ABOUT MY SITUATION THAT I HAD SURGERY? I HAD KNEE SURGERY, ACTUALLY, AND I HAD SHOULDER SURGERY, AND SO I HAVE A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN I CAN'T GET THE CAR.

IS THERE A PROGRAM THAT I CAN CALL AND YOU GUYS WILL COME AND PICK IT UP FOR ME.

>> NO COST.

>> NO, I'M ASKING BECAUSE THIS IS A QUESTION PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASK.

>> OBVIOUSLY THERE HAS TO BE A REASON, NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT YOUR CARD AT THE CURVE.

>> NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THAT'S FAIR.

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I'M JUST SAYING IN THOSE SITUATIONS, IF YOU HAVE A SITUATION THAT MAY COME UP.

>> WE'RE EXPECTING THAT THAT NUMBER COULD INCREASE A LITTLE BIT.

>> THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A CHARGE FOR THAT SITUATION IF THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE DOCTOR BILLS OR EXPLAIN THE SITUATION OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

IS THERE EVER GOING TO BE A CHARGE FOR THAT SERVICE IF SOMEONE NEEDS THAT SERVICE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME OR THEY HAVE A SITUATION COMES UP, OR THEY HAVE MAYBE SOME OLDER FAMILY MEMBER THAT COMES AND LIVES WITH THEM AND, THEY'RE GONE, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE RESPONSIBILITY.

>> SPEAKING WITH OUR DRIVERS, I HAVE A LOT MORE BACK DOOR RESIDENTS IN GRAPEVINE THAN I KNOW ABOUT.

YOU KNOW HOW I NORMALLY FIND OUT THAT WE HAVE THEM IS WHEN THAT DRIVERS ON PTO OR CHANGES ROUTES.

AND THEN THEY'RE CALLING GOING, MAN YOU MISSED MY TRASH, AND THEN WE DO FURTHER INVESTIGATING, AND WE FIND OUT WHY.

HERE'S PROBABLY A LOT MORE OF THOSE OUT THERE THAN WE REALIZE.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CITIES THAT DO CHARGE FOR BACKDOOR SERVICE, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE EVER CHARGED FOR IN GRAPEVINE.

WE DON'T HAVE A LONG LIST OF THEM TODAY.

WE ARE EXPECTING THAT LIST IS GOING TO GO UP SOON, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOWN THE ROAD.

YOU'RE SAYING THEY WILL NEVER BE CHARGED FOR THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND.

>> NOT GOING TO START CHARGING THEM IT THEY HAVE A REASON.

NOW, IF THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT IT AT THE CURB, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO COST.

>> THAT'S FAIR.

>> BUT I WILL TELL YOU, MY MOTHER LIVES IN HURST, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO CARTS, BUT SHE'S 80, MOM.

SHE'S 82, HER HUSBAND'S 85, AND THEY BOTH HAVE CARTS AND LOVE THEM, BECAUSE THEY'RE SO MUCH EASIER FOR THEM TO GET TO THE CURB, BECAUSE THEY ARE THOSE HOUSEHOLDS THAT ONLY HAVE A FEW BAGS OF HASH A WEEK.

THEIR CARTS ARE NOT REAL HEAVY, AND THEY'RE VERY AVID RECYCLERS.

THEY HAVE A 95 CALORIE RECYCLE GO FIGURE.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> THE CARS ARE HEAVY. THE WHEELS OBVIOUSLY HELP A LOT.

THEY'RE NOT LIGHT.

THEY'RE THICK BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE OBVIOUSLY FOR WHAT?

>> THEY'RE NOT LIGHT, BUT I WOULD SAY THEY'RE EASY TO MANAGE. SMALLER.

>> MY WIFE DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAY, BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, THEY TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE IN THE GARAGE, IF THEY'RE BIG GALLONS.

IF YOU'VE GOT TWO OF THEM NOW AS OPPOSED TO ONE, THEY TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE IN THE GARAGE, I DON'T KNOW IF MOST PEOPLE HAVE THEIR TRASH CANS OUTSIDE.

WE HAVE OURS OUTSIDE, OUR GARAGE DOOR, WE OPEN UP, WE PUT A TRASH IN, BUT WITH THE TWO GALLONS, IT TAKES UP A LOT OF SPACE IN THE GARAGE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT THAT FEEDBACK AS WELL.

WELL, THEY'RE BIG.

THE 64 IT'S A RECYCLE BIN.

>> SO AS I MENTIONED, I LIVE IN A CARTED CITY, AND I KNOW I'M IN THE GARBAGE BUSINESS, AND THIS MIGHT SURPRISE YOU.

BUT I DON'T WANT MY GARBAGE CANS IN MY GARAGE, BECAUSE I DO MOST OF MY ENTERTAINING OUTSIDE, AND SO I LIKE FOR THEM TO BE OUTSIDE.

I HAVE THIS VERY NICE ORNAMENTAL WOODEN FANS PANEL THAT COMES OUT FROM THE SIDE OF MY GARAGE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT BELONGS THERE.

THAT'S WHERE MY SORRY AND THEN I CAN ACCESS THEM RIGHT OUTSIDE MY HOUSE OR RIGHT FROM MY BACK YARD.

WE ALL HAVE TO EVERYBODY PROBABLY HAS A TRASH CAN AT THEIR HOUSE AND SO THEY HAVE TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE TO STORE IT.

>> THE LAST THING IS, I JUST THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE ALL YOUR INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE EDUCATED TO OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVES LIKE WEDNESDAY TRASH.

LIKE FOR US, FOR AN EXAMPLE, IT MIGHT BE TO PUT OURS IN A CAN, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TRASH.

WE JUST DON'T. MAYBE THAT WE DO THAT ON WEDNESDAY AS OPPOSED TO EVEN USING THE CANS..

YOUR CANS BUT I THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT THAT YOU REALLY HELP EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY.

OTHERWISE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE CALLING US A LOT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE CALLING YOU A LOT.

WHENEVER THEY REALLY HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THEM, AND EVERYBODY'S DIFFERENT.

SOME PEOPLE GET MAILS, SOME PEOPLE GET SOCIAL MEDIA, SOME PEOPLE GET EMAILS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU HIT ALL THOSE CATEGORIES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES.

>> ANY EDUCATION AN ANY EDUCATION THAT WE DO WILL BE VETTED BY STAFF BEFORE IT GOES OUT TO YOUR RESIDENTS.

I DON'T WANT TO PRETEND THAT I HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.

EVEN AFTER THAT EDUCATION GOES OUT TO YOUR RESIDENTS, I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS A LONG TIME, AND I DON'T CARE HOW MANY TIMES I MAIL SOMETHING TO A RESIDENT OR PUT IT ON A WEBSITE.

I STILL GET ASKED THE SAME QUESTION AND

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SOMETIMES THE SAME QUESTION BY THE SAME RESIDENT OVER AND OVER.

THERE WILL BE SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND WORKAROUNDS.

THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF REPUBLIC.

HAS BEEN A GOOD PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE, AS THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE HAS BEEN A GOOD PARTNER WITH US.

WE'RE DEDICATED TO MAKING THIS WORK FOR YOUR RESIDENTS AND WORKING THROUGH ISSUES THAT WE MAY HAVE.

I CAN'T STAND HERE AND KNOW EVERY ISSUE THAT MAY COME UP, BUT I CAN TELL YOU I'M 100% COMMITTED TO FINDING A RESOLUTION FOR IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THE 65 CONTAINER IS COMPARABLE TO THE GREEN RECYCLE THAT PEOPLE ARE USING TODAY. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES, SIR.

>> BUT THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE 95 INITIALLY AND UNLESS THEY ASK FOR THE 65.

THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE BIGGER ONE, OR HOW ARE THEY GOING TO CHOOSE?

>> THEY WILL HAVE THE CHOICE OF THAT SIZE. [OVERLAPPING].

>> THEY WILL HAVE TO PICK THEM UP, OR Y'ALL GOING WRONG.

>> NO SIR. THEY'LL JUST SEND ME AN E MAIL THAT SAYS, I PREFER THE 65 OVER THE 95, AND THEN I WILL MAKE THAT PART OF THE DELIVERY.

>> THEY'LL HAVE A CHOICE WHEN THEY ORDER THE CONTAINER, WHICH ONE THEY WANT.

>> YES.

>> IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME? THE PRICE WILL BE THE SAME FOR THE LARGE OR THE SMALL? THE PRICE WILL BE THE SAME UNLESS THEY HAVE TWO.

>> THEY WILL JUST NEED TO LET US KNOW THAT HOW MANY THEY NEED.

>> THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE CONTAINER IS GOING TO BE HEAVIER WITH TRASH THAN IT IS WITH RECYCLES.

THEY DO HAVE GOOD WHEELS AND THEY MOTIVATE, GOOD, BUT, I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO OPERATE THE 95, AND THEY'RE GOING TO STICK EVERYTHING IN THERE THEY CAN GET.

MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NEED THE 65, I THINK.

MY CONCERN IS REALLY WHAT WE GIVE UP IN OUR QUALITY OF GARBAGE SERVICE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE PICKING UP THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN CONTAINERS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN GO IN CONTAINERS OR NOT.

DOES THE LID HAVE TO BE DOWN?

>> DOES THE LID NEED TO BE DOWN?

>> LID HAS TO BE CLOSED.

>> IT NEEDS TO BE. HOWEVER, IF IT'S STICKING UP LIKE THIS, THAT'S ONE THING.

IF IT'S GOT STUFF STICKING OUT OF THE TOP OF IT, AND WHEN IT'S PICKED UP, IT'S GOING TO FALL ALL OVER THE STREET.

EDUCATION IS 100% GOING TO BE THE KEY ON THIS.

HOWEVER, THEY STILL HAVE THEIR WEDNESDAY SERVICE AND THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE.

>> THAT'S ONLY EVERY TWO WEEKS, THOUGH, RIGHT?

>> WELL, THE MAJORITY OF THE BULK THAT WE GET IN GRAPEVINE IS GREEN WASTE.

IT'S REALLY NOT BOLT TRASH.

IT'S REALLY GREEN WASTE.

THAT'S EVERY WEEK.

YOU HAVE THE OPTION [OVERLAPPING]

>> TALK ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING THEIR OWN TRASH CAN OUT.

THAT ONLY WOULD GET PICKED UP EVERY OTHER WEEKDAY.

>> ON WEDNESDAY.

>> EVERY OTHER WEDNESDAY, RIGHT?

>> NO.

>> BECAUSE EVERY OTHER WEDNESDAY, YOU'RE DOING ONLY THE GREEN.

>> EVERY WEDNESDAY.

>> ON THE GREEN WASTE WEEKS, IF THEY HAVE GREEN WASTE IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL CONTAINER, IT WILL BE EMPTIED.

>> WHAT IF THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PERSONAL CONTAINER, NOT GREEN WASTE, YOU'LL ONLY PICK THAT UP EVERY OTHER WEEK.

>> THAT WILL BE ON THE SECOND AND FOURTH. THAT IS CORRECT.

BUT THEY DO HAVE THE OPTION TO HAVE A SECOND HEART, AND YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TWICE A WEEK SERVICE.

>> IS THERE NO CHANGE THEN IN THE BRUSH SERVICE?

>> PARDON?

>> BRUSH SERVICE, PICKING UP BRUSH AND OTHER THINGS THAT WON'T GO IN THE CONTAINER, THE SERVICE IS GOING TO BE THE SAME?

>> THAT'S NOT CHANGING.

>> NOTHING IS CHANGING ABOUT WEDNESDAY.

>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S GOING TO TO BE ON WEDNESDAYS.

>> SURE. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

>> ON WEDNESDAYS.

>> RIGHT?

>> YES. NOT CHANGING.

>> THE ONLY CHANGE IS BASICALLY THAT IT HAS TO GO IN A SPECIFIC CONTAINER THAT CAN BE PICKED UP AUTOMATICALLY BY THE TRUCK DON'T.

>> NOT TRUE.

>> NO. BE ON REGULAR TRASH, IF I CAN GET A STAFF PERSON TO COME UP HERE, BECAUSE JERRY'S HAVING TROUBLE HEARING, AND THEY'RE, THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE.

DO WE, PLEASE? [BACKGROUND] THANK YOU.

>> IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, FOR EXAMPLE, I MOST PEOPLE WILL COME FALL,

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PICK UP THE LEAVES, PUT IT IN STUFF.

I DO IT ON THE WEEKENDS, MONDAY, I PUT IT OUT ON MONDAY, TYPICALLY IT'S PICKED UP BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR TRASH PICKED UP ON MONDAY.

IN THIS SITUATION, UNLESS IT'S IN THE CAN, YOU'RE NOT PICKING IT UP.

IT'S JUST GOING TO SET ON THE CURB.

>> WITH THE LEAVES.

>> WITH THE LEAVES. IT'S NOT IN THE CAN.

IT'S SITTING ON THE CAN NEXT TO THE CAN LIKE WE DO NOW.

>> IF YOU HAVE YOUR LEAVES IN A PAPER BAG THAT'S DESIGNED TO BE COMPOSTABLE?

>> RIGHT.

>> THEN ANY WEDNESDAY, IT WOULD BE PICKED UP.

IF YOU HAVE IT IN A PLASTIC BAG, THEN ON THE FIRST THIRD OR FIFTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH, IT WOULD BE PICKED UP.

>> NORMALLY, THAT TRASH WOULD BE PICKED UP ON MONDAY, AND IT WOULD BE GONE.

OTHERWISE, NOW IT'S GOING TO BE SETTING IN MY [OVERLAPPING] FOR A WEEK, POTENTIALLY OR TWO WEEKS, POTENTIALLY DEPENDING IF IT'S THAT WEDNESDAY OR MAYBE THE NEXT ONE.

>> ONLY IF YOU DON'T READ WHAT WE SEND YOU.

I MEAN THAT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.

THE REALITY IS THAT YOU CAN GET A 65 OR A 95 GALLON CONTAINER, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ON OCTOBER 1ST.

HOWEVER, BECAUSE I'M IN THE PILOT PROGRAM, TOO.

IT TAKES A LITTLE GETTING USED TO BECAUSE I HAVE A 95 GALLON CONTAINER, AND I PUT EVERYTHING IN THAT 95 GALLON CONTAINER, EXCEPT ON WEDNESDAYS.

ON EVERY WEDNESDAY, IF YOU HAVE YARD WASTE, IT'S GOING TO BE PICKED UP.

IF YOU HAVE BULK TRASH THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT IN YOUR CONTAINER, YOU CAN'T JUST DO WHAT MY NEIGHBOR'S DOING, WHICH IS ROLL ANOTHER TRASH CAN OUT THERE.

ON TUESDAY OR FRIDAY.

YOU HAVE TO PUT IT OUT ON THE WEDNESDAY WHERE WE DO BRUSH BULK PICK UP.

BRUSH PICK UP EVERY WEEK, BULK PICK UP, FIRST, THIRD AND FIFTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.

IT'LL BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE, AGAIN, YOU COULD PUT ANYTHING OUT THERE BEFORE THEY WENT TO THIS, AND THEY WOULD TAKE IT, WHICH IS YOUR POINT, AND I AGREE.

IT'S GOING TO BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO COMMUNICATE REALLY CLEARLY WITH OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT EVERY PIECE OF THIS.

DON'T LIKE THE 95 GALLON CONTAINER, WE'LL GIVE YOU A 65 GALLON CONTAINER.

CAN'T GET THERE BECAUSE I HAD SHOULDER SURGERY OR I'M 85, AND I CAN'T ROLL THE CART TO THE CURB, FINE.

SAME PRICE, WE'LL COME TO YOUR BACK DOOR.

REPUBLIC WILL GET YOUR CAN AND GO TO THE CURB.

I JUST THINK THAT AND RIGHTFULLY SO KNEW THERE'D BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS TONIGHT, BECAUSE, AGAIN, YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT TRASH OUT HOWEVER YOU CHOSE ON YOUR TWO TRASH DAYS AND ON THE WEDNESDAY.

NOW, YOU PUT TRASH OUT ON YOUR TRASH DAYS, AND PUT BULK OR BRUSH OUT ON THE WEDNESDAYS, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMMUNICATE THAT REALLY CLEARLY TO OUR RESIDENT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

>> THE BIGGER THE THING THAT I AM GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE HEARTBURN, AND I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE THING, BUT THE REALITY OF IS THIS, COME FALL, THERE'S GOING TO BE LEAVES EVERYWHERE.

LIKE EVERYBODY DOES, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING 8-10 BAGS OF GARBAGE ON THEIR CURB TO BE PICKED UP ON MONDAY, TUESDAY.

>> EVERY YEAR.

>> NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE POTENTIALLY GARBAGE ALL OVER OUR COMMUNITY, POTENTIALLY A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS OR WHENEVER.

>> [OVERLAPPING] IT'LL BE EVERY WEDNESDAY.

>> EVERY WEDNESDAY.

>> BUT THE POINT IS IS IT MAY BE EVERY WEDNESDAY.

IF IT WAS LAST WEDNESDAY, IT'S GOING TO SIT THERE FOR A WEEK AND A HALF.

>> OUR SERVICE IS BEING REDUCED.

WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING LESS SERVICE THAN WHAT HAVE NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE PICKING IT UP THE WAY THEY DO NOW.

WE CAN'T PUT ITEMS NEXT TO OUR GARBAGE CAN, AND THEY'LL PICK IT UP LIKE THEY DO NOW.

>> NO, THAT'S RIGHT. THEY WON'T BE DOING THAT.

[OVERLAPPING] ONLY ON WEDNESDAY.

>> OUR SERVICE IS REDUCED.

>> YOU CAN DO IT ON WEDNESDAY.

>> UNLESS YOU PUT IT IN THE CAN.

>> I UNDERSTAND. IT'S GOING TO BE THERE.

I'LL COME GET THERE ONE OF THESE DAYS.

BUT THE FACT IS, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THERE NOW.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THERE.

>> NO, IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT DIFFERENT.

>> IT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.

>> [OVERLAPPING] TO FOLLOW THE RULES.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WE'RE GOING TO BE HEARING ABOUT THESE RULES BECAUSE OUR CITIZENS ARE GOING TO REALIZE WHAT I JUST SAID.

>> BECAUSE THEY ARE USED TO IT.

>> WE'RE USED TO USED TO IT, AND NOW IT'S NOT THE WAY IT WAS. IT'S DIFFERENT.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN THINKING TO BE PICKING UP STUFF.

ON THE REGULAR ROUTE, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, MEANS A LOT OF STUFF IS GOING TO BE LEFT ON THE CURB.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT BACK TO THE BACK YARD WHEN IT DOESN'T GET PICKED UP.

>> BUT WE CAN FACE A PRICING INCREASE, AND THEY COULD HIRE MORE PEOPLE IF THEY COULD HIRE PEOPLE.

BUT THE WHOLE POINT IS, THIS WHOLE REVOLUTION HAS COME ABOUT OR EVOLUTION HAS COME MAYBE.

>> A REVOLUTION.

>> EVOLUTION HAS COME ABOUT. [LAUGHTER].

>> THERE WOULD BE ONE.

>> AS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A YEAR AGO ABOUT NOT HAVING ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO IT, AND SO THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.

WE STILL HAVE BETTER SERVICE IN MOST CITIES, WE JUST DO.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMPARING APPLES AND APPLES.

TODAY, IN THE SPRING AND FALL, WHEN THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF BAGS OF LEAVES, WE ARE NOT GETTING ALL OF THOSE PICKED UP ON MONDAY, TUESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAYS ANYWAY, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE HOUSEHOLD TRASH FIRST,

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AND WE ARE PUSHING THE BAGGED LEAVES TO WEDNESDAYS.

AND WE HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS BECAUSE IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT CRAZY BECAUSE GRAPEVINE DOESN'T HAVE ANY LIMITS.

NOW, IN SOME OF THE CITIES SURROUNDING YOU, THERE'S A LIMIT THEY CAN ONLY PUT OUT SO MANY BAGS OF LEAVES PER COLLECTION DAY, YOU CAN STILL PUT BAGS OF LEAVES OUT ON YOUR SERVICE DAY.

THEY JUST HAVE TO GO IN A CART.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO ORDER AN ADDITIONAL CART FOR THE SPRING AND THE FALL BECAUSE YOU WANT YOUR BAG LEAVES TO GO AWAY, AND THEN HAVE US PICK THAT BACK UP A COUPLE OF MONTHS LATER WHEN YOU'RE NOT USING IT, THEN YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPTION.

BUT I WILL SAY TO YOU THAT TODAY, IN SPRING AND FALL, WE ARE NOT PICKING UP ALL THOSE BAGS OF LEAVES ON YOUR REGULAR SERVICE DAY.

ANYWAY, [NOISE] YOU DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY.

>> WELL, I GUESS MY ROUTE GUYS ARE AWESOME THEN BECAUSE THEY'VE ALWAYS PICKED UP EVERY TRASH I'VE EVER PUT OUT, WHETHER IT'S IN A BAG OR CAN.

THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN THE LAST YEARS. LIKE I SAID, THE REALITY OF IS, IS I SEE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE EIGHT, 10, 12 BAGS, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LIFT THOSE BAGS UP AND PUT IT IN A CAN.

THEY WOULDN'T ALL FIT.

IT'S JUST A REALITY OF IT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO BEAT YOU DOWN.

I'M JUST SAYING, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TRASH BAGS ALL OVER THE PLACE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS NOW, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, YOU MAY HAVE PICKED UP ON THIS WEDNESDAY.

THE NEXT ONE YOU'RE NOT PICKING UP, BUT I DID MY YARD WORK, AND SO NOW IT'S SITTING THERE AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PICKED UP FOR ANOTHER WEEK AND A HALF.

THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION RENT UNLESS THEY PUT IT IN A CAN.

ONE, I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO LIFT UP A GARB AND STICK IT IN THE CANS.

THEY JUST DON'T THEY DRAG IT TO THE CURB, LIKE EVERYBODY DOES.

SECONDLY, THEY'RE NOT ALL GOING TO FIT IN THAT CAN DURING LIKE YOU SAID, THE FALL OR THE SPRING, OR WHENEVER THOSE TIMES COME.

>> WELL, I WOULDN'T BE 100% ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE IF I DIDN'T SAY TO YOU, WE DON'T WANT THE BAG LEAVES IN THE LANDFILL, PERIOD.

THAT'S REALLY THE REASON WHY GRAPEVINE HAS A GREEN WASTE STAY IS BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO GET SOME OF THE GREEN WASTE OUT OF THE LANDFILLS.

I DON'T WANT TO FILL UP THE LANDFILLS WITH BAG LEAVES.

IT TAKES YEARS FOR THE PLASTIC TO GO AWAY THAT THOSE LEAVES ARE IN.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO EDUCATE RESIDENTS ABOUT RECYCLING AND PUTTING THEIR LEAVES BACK INTO THEIR YARD AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AS WELL.

IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PICK UP BAG LEAVES.

IF THEY'RE IN THE CART, YOU CAN FILL UP YOUR WHOLE CART WITH BAG LEAVES IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

BUT I WANT TO BE ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE HERE TOO AND TALK ABOUT, WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP THOSE OUT OF THE LANDFILL AND SAVE THAT AIR SPACE FOR TRASH AND REALLY WORK ON RECYCLING YARD WASTE.

>> THE GREEN WASTE IS PICKED UP EVERY WEDNESDAY.

>> EVERY WEDNESDAY.

>> EVERY WEDNESDAY.

>> NOT EVERY OTHER.

>> NOT EVERY OTHER. GREEN WASTE ONLY IS ON THE FIRST AND THE THIRD.

>> SECOND AND FOURTH.

>> WELL, THEN I HAVE IT BACKWARDS HERE, AND YOU DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.

SORRY. I HAD IT BACKWARDS.

BUT TWO TIMES A MONTH, IT IS GREEN WASTE ONLY, WHERE IT HAS TO BE IN CRAFT BACKS.

>> [OVERLAPPING] SECOND AND FOURTH IS GREEN WASTE ONLY.

I'M SORRY. FIRST, THIRD AND FIFTH.

WE HAVE THREE POTENTIAL BRUSH AND BULK DAYS, AND THEN JUST TWO.

I THINK IT'S 24 WEEKS A YEAR, 24 WEDNESDAYS A YEAR, WE HAVE CLEAN BRUSH AND MAYBE 26 OR SOMETHING LIKE, WELL, I'M SAYING WRONG TO. THAT'S FINE.

>> WE DO SO WE DID THAT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE GREEN WASTE AND RECYCLE IT, AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT OUT OF THE LANDFILL ANYWAY.

BUT WE WILL PICK IT UP.

IF THEY PUT OUT BAGGED LEAVES ON BULK DAY, WE'RE STILL GOING TO PICK THAT UP.

THAT HAS NOT CHANGED.

>> WE WERE IN THE PILOT PROGRAM AS WELL.

THE SURVEY RESULTS THAT YOU RECEIVED BACK, JERRY, DID YOU SHARE THOSE WITH DEWEY AND WITH BRUNO? THE SURVEY RESULTS?

>> YES, MA'AM, AND THE CITIZENS.

>> [OVERLAPPING] TODAY. IT'S ON THE SHE'S SHARING THOSE WITH [INAUDIBLE].

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL SURVEYS.

THE COMMENTS THAT WERE ON IT, THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ANSWERED, DID YOU RECEIVE THE EMAIL RESPONSE THAT WE MADE AND THAT SHE RECEIVED, DID SHE FORWARD THOSE EMAILS TO YOU AND TO BRUNO?

>> I DID NOT RECEIVE THOSE.

>> OKAY.

>> [OVERLAPPING] THE ACTUAL SURVEYS THAT WERE COMPLETED WERE COMPLETED ONLINE?

>> CORRECT. DID YOU HAVE COPIES OF THOSE?

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THEY WERE IN AN EMAIL, I BELIEVE, WEREN'T THEY?

>> [BACKGROUND] SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE COMMENTS.

>> THE ACTUAL COMMENTS THAT WERE.

>> IN THE SURVEYS?

>> YES, MA'AM. THOSE WERE THE COMMENTS THAT I WENT THROUGH.

>> DO YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL DOCUMENTS THAT COULD BE SHARED WITH DEWEY AND WITH OUR CITY MANAGER ON SURVEYS?

>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, SINCE IT'S OUR CITIZENS' OPINIONS.

I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR THE STAFF TO KNOW THAT.

I'D ALSO COMMENT THAT REGARDING THE CONTRACT WITH REPUBLIC, AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER, AND YOU'VE HELPED US OUT, ESPECIALLY IN THE RECENT STORMS THAT WE HAD.

YOU HAD TRUCKS HELPING HAUL OFF A LOT OF THE BRUSH AND THE LIMBS FOR WHAT, TWO OR THREE WEEKS.

TREES DOWN, TREES BLOWN OVER.

THE WHOLE TOWN WAS A MESS.

REPUBLIC REALLY STEPPED UP AND HELPED, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I'VE READ A NUMBER OF THESE CONTRACTS THROUGH THE YEARS.

TONIGHT WAS THE FIRST TIME I EVER HEARD, MAYBE I FORGOT ABOUT HAVING BACKDOOR SERVICE WHENEVER YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO GET YOUR OWN GARBAGE OUT TO THE CURB.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

HAVING READ A FEW CONTRACTS.

I WONDERED HOW I MISSED THOSE.

IT'S GOING TO BE AN EDUCATION PROGRAM, AND THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE DISSEMINATED TO OUR RESIDENTS VERY CLEARLY.

>> MAY I ADD SOMETHING TO THE BACK DOOR SERVICE?

>> CERTAINLY.

>> GARY HASN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT IT MUCH, BUT CURRENTLY WE HAVE SIX RESIDENTS THAT I KNOW OF THAT ARE ON BACK DOOR SERVICE.

>> THAT WE KNOW OF.

>> YEAH.

>> BUT LIKE I TOLD YOU, AFTER SPEAKING WITH DROP.

>> ONE OF THEM TO LEON'S POINT IS A HUSBAND WHO HAD SURGERY AND HIS WIFE IS PREGNANT.

THOSE ARE CASES THAT WE WORK WITH.

>> IT'S A GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY.

>> BUT IF WE DO HAVE, LIKE, LET'S SAY WE HAD 10% OF THE POPULATION, THEN I WOULD EXPECT THEM TO COME TO US AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO START CHARGING FOR THIS TAKE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

>> I THINK THE MAYOR MADE A GOOD POINT.

I WILL AGREE THE 65 GALLON CANS ARE WAY BIG ENOUGH TO HANDLE WHEN YOU'VE GOT STUFF IN THEM.

MY HUSBAND'S PRETTY STOUT GUY AND IT'S HEAVY LEON ALLUDED TO THAT A MINUTE AGO.

THE 95 GALLON CANS, IF SOMEBODY WANTS THEM, GOD BLESS THEM, LET THEM OPT IN INSTEAD OF THE 65 GALLON PEOPLE HAVING TO OPT OUT.

>> IT'S HARDER TO GUIDE WHEN IT'S EMPTY THAN IT IS WHEN IT'S FULL. IT JUST WANTS TO GO.

>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH CANS TO DELIVER AUTOMATICALLY, I WOULD SAY THAT YOU OUGHT TO DO THE 65 GALLON CANS TO DELIVER THOSE AND HAVE A FEW OF THE 95 GALLONS ON THE TRUCK, AND IF SOMEBODY SAYS, HEY, I WANT A BIGGER ONE, THEN GIVE IT TO THEM BECAUSE THE FEEDBACK THAT I HAVE HEARD, PEOPLE FEEL THAT THE 95 GALLON CANS ARE JUST TOO LARGE FOR THEM TO HANDLE.

THESE WERE HEALTHY AND STOUT, YOUNGER PEOPLE AS WELL, SO THAT MIGHT BE A POINT OF INFORMATION THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO YOU.

>> I SAY WE GOT A 95 GALLON BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE TRASH THAN ANYBODY ON THE STREET.

>> YOU GOT MORE GRAND KIDS THAN ANYBODY ON THE STREET.

>> I GET IT OUT MYSELF. I GOT [INAUDIBLE].

>> THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO EVERYTHING, RIGHT, DUFF.

>> BUT I AGREE THE DEFAULT MIGHT OUGHT TO BE THE 65.

CAUSE EVEN TO LEON'S POINT ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF SPACE IT TAKES UP AT THE GARAGE AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS.

I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE MOST PEOPLE WANT TO END UP.

I'D PROBABLY DEFAULT TO THE 65, GIVE PEOPLE THE OPTION TO OPT IN FOR THE LARGER ONE.

>> IS THE SIZE OF THOSE CANS WRITTEN ON THE CANS SOMEWHERE? IS IT ON THE BOTTOM? I HAVEN'T TURNED ONE UP SIGN DOWN.

HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE A 65 OR A 95 JUST BY LOOKING AT IT? IS IT WRITTEN ON THERE? IS IT EMBLAZONED OR INTO MOLDING OR ANYTHING? DO YOU KNOW? WE DON'T KNOW.

>> I DON'T.

>> NOBODY KNOWS.

>> I DON'T KNOW. I CAN TELL BY LOOKING, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

>> ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE TRUE CONFESSIONS.

I HAVE A 95 GALLON RECYCLE CONTAINER, AND IT'S FULL OF A LOT OF GLASS.

>> FULL OF WHAT?

>> FULL OF A LOT OF GLASS.

EVERY WEEK, IT HAS A LOT OF GLASS IN MY RECYCLED CONTAINER, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER.

I HAVE TO GET MINE TO THE END OF MY DRIVEWAY, AND I HAVE A VERY LONG DRIVEWAY, AND IT'S STEEP.

I'M FIVE FOOT TALL.

I HAVE MUCH EASIER TIME GETTING THAT TO THE CURB THAN I WOULD IF I DIDN'T HAVE THE CART.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN EDUCATION PROCESS ALL THE WAY AROUND.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ONE OFFS HERE AND THERE.

THAT'S TO BE EXPECTED.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME COMPLAINTS BECAUSE IT'S CHANGE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

ANYTHING THAT CHANGES.

HOWEVER, THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE IS NOT CHANGING A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOUR RESIDENTS ARE USED TO ON WEDNESDAYS THAT OTHER CITIES DON'T

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HAVE AND THAT'S THAT UNLIMITED BULK AND BRUSH.

WHEN I SAY BRUSH, I MEAN, A LOT OF IT, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CUT TIGHT AND BUNDLED.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN MOST SURROUNDING CITIES AROUND YOU.

THE SERVICES IN GRAPEVINE ARE STILL PREMIUM SERVICES, REGARDLESS IF IT'S IN THAT TRASH CARD OR NOT.

WE HAVE ALWAYS FOCUSED ON REGULAR TRASH DAYS, HOUSEHOLD TRASH.

THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR FOCUS.

THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FROM THE GET GO.

>> THERE ARE NO DOUBT THAT WE HAVE BETTER SERVICE MOST CITIES, SOME CITIES.

I WAS IN AVENUE LAST WEEKEND AND BRUSH FILED UP FOR TWO MONTHS, STILL HADN'T BEEN PICKED UP.

BUT IT'S PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE IT REALLY.

THEY DON'T LIKE CHANGE, THEY HAVE SPOILED.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM EDUCATING THEM WORKING THROUGH IT.

THIS IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM.

THIS IS JUST A REPORT.

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE, MR. RUMBELO?

>> WELL, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK SINCERELY, AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE EDUCATION THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO HAPPEN.

BUT THE REALITY IS THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO HAPPEN QUICKLY BECAUSE AT OCTOBER THE 1ST, THIS SERVICE THAT WAS IN THE TWO PILOT PROGRAMS IS GOING TO BE ROLLED OUT CITYWIDE.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK FOR DEWEY AND FOR REPUBLIC TO DO TO EDUCATE EVERY RESIDENT IN THE COMMUNITY OVER THE NEXT 60 DAYS AS WE WORK THROUGH BOTH AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER FOR AN OCTOBER 1 ROLLOUT FOR THE BLUE CONTAINERS, YOUR HONOR.

>> BRUNO, I HAVE A QUESTION TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

I'M STILL A LITTLE BIT SHOCKED ABOUT THIS ON WEDNESDAY.

ANY BRUSH OR BULK OR WHATEVER HAS TO BE IN THE CAN OR IT WILL NOT GET PICKED UP, PERIOD, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> NO. DO WE ANSWER THE QUESTION RIGHT, PLEASE?

>> NO, MA'AM. THE CANS ARE ONLY FOR YOUR TRASH AND RECYCLE DAYS.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR DAYS ARE, SO IF YOU HAVE-

>> MONDAY, THURSDAY.

>> MONDAY, THURSDAY.

>> EXCUSE ME TUESDAY, FRIDAY.

>> ON TUESDAY, THEY'RE GOING TO PICK UP YOUR TRASH.

>> I GOT THAT.

>> TODAY, THEY'RE GOING TO PICK UP YOUR TRASH CAN.

ON WHATEVER DAY YOUR RECYCLE IS, THEY'RE GOING TO PICK UP YOUR RECYCLE CAN.

ON WEDNESDAY, IF YOU HAVE BAGS OF LEAVES OR A BUNCH OF BULK OR A BUNCH OF TRUE LIMBS ON THE FIRST AND THIRD WEDNESDAYS, THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO GET THE CLEAN BRUSH AND BRUSH AND THE LEAVES THAT ARE IN PAPER BAGS.

>> THEY CAN BE LAYING ON THE EDGE OF THE-

>> WEDNESDAY IS NOT CHANGING IT ALL.

>> EVERYTHING DOES NOT HAVE TO BE IN THE CAN ON WEDNESDAY.

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THEY ARE ALLOWED.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE THEIR TRASH CANS AND THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT LEAVES IN THEM THEY CAN DO THAT ON THAT.

I THINK I SAID IT WRONG AGAIN.

I THINK THEY CAN DO IT ON THE SECOND AND FOURTH WEDNESDAY.

>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

>> CLEAN BRUSH IS SECOND AND FOURTH, I BELIEVE.

>> I HAVE. YOU'RE RIGHT.

>> THE FOURTH AND FIFTH.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> PLEASE PUT THAT ON THE CALENDAR I WAS RIGHT.

>> I THINK IT CHANGES. WE USED TO BE ABLE TO FILL UP YOUR TRASH CAN.

YOU CAN ADD SOME EXTRA BAGS TRASH PICK UP.

I REMEMBER THAT I'LL HOW CLEANER.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION AT CHRISTMAS WHEN EVERYBODY HAS EXTRA STUFF? ARE WE JUST GOING TO SAY NO, YOU JUST GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE ALL YOUR EXTRA STUFF IN THE GARAGE AND FILL UP YOUR CAN.

THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE EDUCATION, I'LL TELL YOU.

THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ONE TIME.

CHRISTMAS PICKUP IS ALWAYS CRAZY ANYWAY.

>> IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I WOULD HAVE TO RUN EXTRA ROUTES HERE ON JUST THAT WEEK, AND I MAY NOT HAVE EXTRA ROUTES TO RUN THAT WEEK BECAUSE CHRISTMAS HAPPENS EVERYWHERE FOR EVERYBODY.

>> I THINK THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.

>> RIGHT. WE'RE THE CHRISTMAS CAPITAL OF TWO.

>> YOU ALWAYS HAVE EXTRA. BUT THAT WILL BE NEED TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNICATION IS DON'T PILE YOUR CAN AND SIX OR EIGHT EXTRA BAGS OF TRASH.

>> JUST PART. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT, COUNSEL CONSIDER BEGIN IN PHASE 2 OF THE PERFORMANCE AND

[6. Consider beginning Phase 2 of the performance and utilization analysis for The REC with Barker Rinker Seacat Architecture, and take any necessary action. This item was tabled from the July 16, 2024, meeting. ]

UTILIZATION ANALYSIS FOR THE REC WITH BAKER RINKER CCAT ARCHITECT, TRENT KELLY.

>> MAYOR TATE AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNSEL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

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WE ARE BACK BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO SEEK YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR ADVANCING TO PHASE 2 OF THE PERFORMANCE AND UTILIZATION ANALYSIS OF THE REC OF GRAPEVINE WITH BARKER RINKER SEACAT ARCHITECTURE.

FOLLOWING THE LAST MEETING, YOU PROVIDED US FEEDBACK.

WE TOOK THAT FEEDBACK, AND WE COLLABORATED WITH BRS TO REVISE OUR DELIVERABLE SCHEDULE TO BETTER ALIGN WITH EXPECTATIONS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU THE KEY ADJUSTMENTS WE MADE AND OUR UPDATED TIMELINE.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS FIRST SLIDE, WE'VE ISOLATED OUT OUR LIGHT RENOVATION FROM THE OVERALL ANALYSIS AND THE FUTURE EXPANSION POSSIBILITIES.

WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE LIGHT RENOVATION AND SHORT TERM DELIVERABLES IS.

WE'VE STREAMLINED THAT DOWN FROM 11 WEEKS TO EIGHT WEEKS, AND THAT WILL BE A DELIVERABLE IN EARLY OCTOBER.

THE PHASE WILL ADDRESS SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS FOR THE FITNESS ROOM AND OTHER IDENTIFIED PINCH POINTS THAT ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THE COST ESTIMATES FOR THOSE.

ON OUR NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THIS IS FOR THE ENTIRE ANALYSIS, THE OVERALL ANALYSIS, AND THE FUTURE EXPANSION OPTIONS.

WE WERE ALSO ABLE, WE'VE REDUCED THE OVERALL ANALYSIS TIMELINE, WHICH WILL INCLUDE EXPANSION OPTIONS, GRAPHICS, AND A DETAILED COST ESTIMATE FROM 31 WEEKS DOWN TO 27 WEEKS, FOR A TOTAL OF A FOUR WEEK REDUCTION FROM THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE.

THIS ADJUSTMENT SETS THE FINAL STUDY DELIVERY TO COME TO COUNSEL IN EARLY FEBRUARY.

WITH THE REVISED TIMELINES AND DELIVERABLES, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL TO PROCEED WITH PHASE 2 OF THIS ANALYSIS, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THE QUESTIONS?

>> WHEN YOU WORKED WITH THEM ON REDUCING THE TIMELINE, WHAT ARE WE SACRIFICING IN THAT?

>> WE WERE ASKING THEM TO SPEED UP ON THEIR DATA COLLECTION, AND THEIR DATA PROCESSING IS WHERE WE ASKED THEM TO CUT THE TIME.

>> OKAY.

>> HOW LONG WAS PHASE 1?

>> HOW LONG WAS PHASE 1?

>> HOW LONG DID PHASE 1 TAKE?

>> PHASE 1 TOOK, I THINK THE OVERALL PROJECT WAS ABOUT 10 MONTHS.

> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> I'M NOT VERY HAPPY WITH PHASE 1.

I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH PHASE 2.

I THINK WE'RE STUCK WITH THEM FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT IT'S BEEN A NIGHTMARE.

BIG, BIG DISAPPOINTMENT, A LOT OF MONEY, A LOT OF TIME, AND WE HAVE NOTHING.

I'M PREPARED TO VOTE FOR IT.

YOU TRY TO DO WHAT YOU CAN, BUT I'M NOT HAPPY.

I DON'T WANT EVER SEE US USE THEM AGAIN.

>> THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVE OF THAT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION.

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION, IF NOT, ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL OPPOSE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANKS, SIR.

>> ITEM 7, CONSIDER RESOLUTION 2024-012,

[7. Consider Resolution No. 2024-012 accepting the Certified Estimated Tax Rolls having a total appraised value of $19,276,319,944 less exemptions of $6,973,107,833 for a net taxable value of $12,303,212,111, and take any necessary action.]

EXCEPT IN THE CERTIFIED ESTIMATED TAX ROLL, HAVING A TOTAL APPRAISED VALUE OF 19,276,319,944.

THAT'S EXEMPTIONS OF 6, 970, 107, 833 FOR A NET TAXABLE VALUE OF A LITTLE OVER $12 BILLION AND TAKE ANY NECESSARY ACTION, MR. JEFF STRONG.

>> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNSEL.

STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT CERTIFY THE PROPERTY VALUES BY JULY 25 OF EVERY YEAR.

THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING SETS THE TAX ROLL CERTIFIED BY THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR AND SETS THE FISCAL YEAR 25 NET TAXABLE VALUE AT $12, 303, 212,111.

WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? NOT A MOTION AS IN ORDER.

>> FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR. ALL OPPOSE.

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, JEFF.

ITEM 8, CONSIDER AWARD OR REQUEST OF PROPOSAL 7-24 FOR

[8. Consider the award of Request for Proposal 17-24 for a pre-engineered building with HBA Design Build, LLC, and take any necessary action.]

A PRE-ENGINEERING BUILDING WITH HBA DESIGN BUILDING, LLC, CHRIS SMITH.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT IS APPROVAL FOR THE PURCHASE AND CONSTRUCTION OF A 100 FOOT BY 80 FOOT PRE ENGINEERED METAL BUILDING AT MEADOWMERE PARK.

THE PURCHASE WILL BE MADE THROUGH THE LAKE PARKS FUND BALANCE

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FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $675,275.

BIDS WERE TAKEN THROUGH THE EBD SYSTEM, AND THERE WERE EIGHT PROPOSALS RECEIVED.

BASED ON THE EVALUATION OF THE PROPOSAL BY PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF, ALONG WITH PURCHASING, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE CONTRACT BE AWARDED TO HBA DESIGN BUILD, AS THEY WERE THE LOWEST AND MOST RESPONSIVE BID.

THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD AND COUNCIL FACILITIES COMMITTEE HAVE DISCUSSED AND REVIEWED THE PLAN AND ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.

HAVE A QUICK POWERPOINT SLIDE SHOW TO PROVIDE A FEW MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE LOCATION AND USAGE OF THIS FACILITY.

LET'S START WITH THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

THIS SLIDE IS GOING TO SHOW YOU THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING WITHIN THE MEADOWMERE PARK SYSTEM AND YOU'LL SEE IT IS LOCATED IN THE BLUE OUTLINE JUST TO THE NORTH AND THE WEST OF THE EXISTING RESTROOM.

YOU CAN SEE THE LAKE TO THE NORTH NEAR THE WHOA ZONE AND THAT WHOLE AREA, AND YOU SEE THE DISTANCE OF LAND BETWEEN WHERE THE BUILDING SETS AND THE LAKE LEVEL.

THIS NEXT SLIDE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE TYPICAL LAKE SET.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE LINE, THAT IS AT THE 535 FOOT MARK.

THE 535 FOOT MARK IS TYPICAL NORMAL ELEVATION FOR THE LAKE.

THAT'S WHERE THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS WANTS THE LAKE TO TYPICALLY SET.

THEN WHAT YOU SEE BEYOND THAT IS THE 557 FOOT MARK, WHICH IS WHERE THE LAKE CAME ON TO IN THE RECENT FLOOD.

THE GREAT THING ABOUT WHERE THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO SET IS IT IS JUST OUTSIDE THAT 557 FOOT MARK, AND WE GO OVER THE SPILLWAY AT 560 FEET.

IT'S JUST ABOUT RIGHT AT SPILLWAY LEVEL.

>> THIS NEXT SLIDE IS JUST MEANT TO SHOW YOU THAT WE WILL HAVE SOME TREATMENTS TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AND THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, IT WILL NOT JUST LOOK LIKE A METAL SHELL.

IT WILL BE A LOT OF TREATMENTS TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WITHIN OUR PARKS AND REC SYSTEM.

WE'LL HAVE SOME UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS TO IT AND NOT JUST A METAL BUILDING.

THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE 80 FOOT BY 100 FOOT FOOTPRINT, SHOWING YOU SOME OF THE GARAGE DOORS THAT CAN BE RAISED OR LOWERED, DEPENDING ON WHAT EVENT IS HAPPENING IN THE FACILITY AND WHAT THE WEATHER AT THE TIME IS LOOKING LIKE.

IF IT'S EXTREMELY HOT, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE THE DOORS DOWN.

IF IT'S A NICE DAY, THE DOORS CAN GO UP, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I MEANT TO SHOW ON THIS INTERIOR LOOK AND FEEL IS THOSE GLASS DOORS THAT YOU SEE ARE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH THE GARAGE DOORS THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BE LIFTED TO THE OUTSIDE.

THIS JUST SHOWS THE ELEVATION FROM EACH SIDE OF THIS FACILITY AND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE ALL AROUND THE BUILDING.

THEN THIS SLIDE IS GOING TO GIVE US REASONINGS FOR THIS PROJECT.

TYPICALLY, EVERY SUMMER, WE'RE RUNNING THE DOVE CREEK DAY CAMP, AND THIS SLIDE IS GOING TO SHOW US THE PARTICIPATION NUMBER OF THOSE CAMPS.

WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN 2021, 2023, AND 2024, WE DID HAVE TO LIMIT OUR CAMP TO 40 KIDS PER WEEK BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SHELTER THOSE KIDS IN AN ENCLOSED AREA IF THERE IS INCLEMENT WEATHER THAT COMES ABOUT, STORMS, THAT KIND OF THING.

YOU WILL NOTICE THE JUMP IN 2022.

THIS JUMP WAS BECAUSE IN 2022, WE WERE APPROVED TO PARTNER WITH LONESOME DOVE RANCH JUST TO THE SIDE, AND THAT ALLOWED US TO USE THEIR FACILITY ON THEIR PROPERTY.

WE COULD HOST MORE STUDENTS PER WEEK BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED SIZE OF THE FACILITY THAT WE HAD ACCESS TO.

THIS SLIDE WILL ALSO SHOW THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT WERE ON THE WAIT LIST.

IF YOU LOOK OUT TO THE SIDE, YOU'LL SEE 100 PARTICIPANTS ON THE WAIT LIST, 237, 800, AND SO ON.

MULTIPLE PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CLASS OR IN THE CAMPS DUE TO THE LIMITED CAPACITY.

HAVING A FACILITY AT MEADOWMERE PARK WILL ALLOW THE DEPARTMENT TO HOST THREE TIMES THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN THE SUMMER CAMPS AND BRING IN ADDITIONAL $150,000 IN NET REVENUE TO THE LAKE PARK SYSTEM.

THE BUILDING WILL ALSO BE USED FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, RENTAL OPPORTUNITIES, AND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS HOSTED AT MEADOWMERE PARK.

WITH THAT, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> CHRIS, I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED TO US IN THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE THAT THE PAYBACK ON THE BUILDING WOULD BE 8-10 YEARS?

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>> THAT WOULD BE ROUGHLY ABOUT RIGHT BASED ON THE NET REVENUE THAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET IF YOU ONLY CONSIDERED THE CAMP REVENUE.

SPECIAL EVENTS, LIKE THE DINO EXHIBITS, FACILITY RENTALS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD SPEED UP THAT TIMELINE.

SO MY ESTIMATION WOULD BE MORE IN THIS 5-7 YEAR RANGE.

>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. I WOULD SAY FROM A REVENUE PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE THAT INCREASED REVENUE, BUT WE GET COMPLAINTS EVERY YEAR FROM FAMILIES THAT WANT THEIR KIDS TO GO TO CAMP, AND THEY JUST CAN'T DO IT.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> WE CAN'T PUT A PRICE TAG ON THAT.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> I'M REALLY THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO SEE US BE ABLE TO SERVE MORE KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S GREAT.

>> THIS CAMP IS VERY POPULAR. IT'S VERY NEEDED.

OUTDOOR EDUCATION IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF WHAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO HERE IN GRAPEVINE, THAT NOT EVERY CITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO BECAUSE OF THE LAKE, AND SO IT'S A GREAT CAMP, AND WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY, AND THIS HELPS US TAKE THIS TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

>> CHRIS, WITH THIS FACILITY, WHAT WOULD THAT ENABLE YOU TO GO UP TO ENROLLMENT-WISE FOR THE SUMMER CAMPS?

>> ABOUT 100 STUDENTS PER WEEK AS OPPOSED TO 40.

>> OKAY.

>> WHAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE?

>> I'D BE QUICKER THAN THIS, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE IT READY FOR THE DINO EXHIBIT GOING INTO NEXT MARCH.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOW THE MOTION.

>> A MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSE? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, CHRIS.

ITEM 9, CONSIDER THE RATIFICATION OF AN ENGINEERING CONTRACT,

[9. Consider the ratification of engineering contract amendment No. 1 for Big Bear Creek Erosion Assessment with Halff Associates, Inc., contract of slope stabilization repair with Keller North American, Inc., Ordinance No. 2024-63 appropriating the funds, and take any necessary action.]

AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 FOR THE BIG BEAR CREEK EROSION ASSESSMENT.

RYAN BECK. ALSO, CONSIDER ORDINANCE 2024-63, WHICH APPROPRIATES THE FUNDS.

>> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

ITEM NUMBER 9 ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS TO RATIFY AN ENGINEERING AMENDMENT WITH HALFF ASSOCIATES AND A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH KELLER NORTH AMERICA, INCORPORATED FOR AN EMERGENCY REPAIR ON BIG BEAR CREEK IN SOUTH GRAPEVINE.

STAFF HAS BEEN GROWING CONCERNED WITH EROSION ALONG SECTIONS OF BIG BEAR CREEK RECENTLY.

LAST YEAR, PUBLIC WORKS PERFORMED AN EMERGENCY REPAIR, WHICH INCLUDED REPLACING TWO SANITARY SEWER AERIAL CROSSINGS THAT HAD FAILED AND REBUILDING THE ARMORING ON ONE OF OUR LARGER PEDESTRIAN TRAIL BRIDGES ADJACENT TO THE DOG PARK.

AFTER THOSE EVENTS, STAFF PROPOSED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AN ENGINEERING STUDY OF ALL OF BIG BEAR CREEK WITH HALFF ASSOCIATES.

WHILE THAT WORK IS STILL UNDERWAY, WE DO HAVE PRELIMINARY RESULTS TO SHOW AREAS IDENTIFIED AS HIGHLY EROSIVE WHERE THE CREEK BED IS LIKELY TO MOVE.

A SMALL EXAMPLE OF THIS STUDY IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

THE SECOND PART OF THE STUDY WILL BE TO MARRY THESE FINDINGS TO ADJACENT LIFE PROPERTY CONCERNS, WHERE WE HAVE ADJACENT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS ROADWAYS, PARALLEL OR CROSSING WATER, AND SANITARY SEWER MAINS, TRAILS, AND TRAIL BRIDGES.

WE WOULD LIKE TO USE THIS INFORMATION TO GENERATE A PLAN TO EITHER PROTECT THE BANK FROM FURTHER EROSION AND MOVEMENT OR PROPOSE TO RELOCATE FACILITIES OUT OF HARMS WAY.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE HAD A VERY ROBUST SPRING RAIN THAT RESULTED IN THE IMAGE ON THIS SCREEN.

THE CITY HAS AN EIGHT-INCH SANITARY SEWER LINE ALONG THIS AREA.

THIS LINE SERVES OVER 100 HOMES.

WE WERE FIRST CALLED TO THE AREA IN APRIL BY THE HOME OWNER.

THE SITUATION DEVOLVED QUICKLY AS HEAVY RAINS CONTINUED AND STAFF MOVED TO RETAIN A CONTRACTOR TO PROTECT THE SEWER LINE.

WE HAVE EXECUTED AN AGREEMENT WITH KELLER NORTH AMERICA FOR BOTH THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS WILL INCLUDE TEMPORARY SHORING OF THE SLOPE TO PROTECT WORKERS AS THEY CONSTRUCT A 10-FOOT HIGH GABION WALL.

AN EXAMPLE OF SUCH WALL AS SHOWN HERE.

THE WALL WILL BE SET ON A DRILLED SHAFT FOUNDATION AND WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 250 FEET LONG.

THIS LINK WILL PROTECT THE OUTSIDE BEND OF THE CREEK IN THIS AREA.

WE'VE ALSO EXECUTED AN AMENDMENT WITH HALFF ASSOCIATES TO PROVIDE A PEER REVIEW OF THE DESIGN AND AN EVALUATION OF THE COST PROPOSAL BY KELLER FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.

WE'RE HOPEFUL THIS WORK WILL BE COMPLETED BY SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> QUESTIONS?

>> DID THE SEWER LINE CAUSE THE EROSION?

>> NO, MA'AM.

>> I KNOW THE RAIN CAUSED THE EROSION, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WAS IT BECAUSE THE SEWER LINE WAS THERE, IS THAT WHY?

>> NO, MA'AM. THE CREEK HAS BEEN MOVING, AND AS YOU CAN TELL, IT'S A VERY STEEP SLOPE.

IN THIS PARTICULAR IMAGE ON THE RIGHT, THERE WERE A SERIES OF TERRACED WALLS THE HOMEOWNER HAD CONSTRUCTED OR HIS PREDECESSORS.

THE BLUE TARP ON THE RIGHT IMAGE, THE SEWER IS UNDERNEATH THAT TARP ABOUT 10 FEET DEEP.

WE NEED TO MAKE THE REPAIR BEFORE THE REST OF THE SLOPE MOVES AND THE SEWER LINE THEN WILL BE EXPOSED OR WE'LL BE GONE.

>> BRIAN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP YOU HAD THERE?

>> YES, SIR.

>> IS THIS PROJECT ALL SIX OF THOSE RED DOT AREAS?

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>> NO, SIR. THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF A HIGH LEVEL EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF WORK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM HALFF ASSOCIATES TO DATE, WHERE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX LOCATIONS THAT WE FIND TO BE HIGHLY EROSIVE.

AS AN EXAMPLE, THE TOP IMAGE THERE THAT YOU CAN SEE, THE ONE THAT'S BY CYPRESS CREEK COURT, THAT AREA HAS COME TO FAIL IN THE TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN UNDERTAKING THE STUDY.

>> THIS PROJECT IS JUST TO DEAL WITH THAT ONE LOCATION?

>> IT'S JUST TO DEAL WITH THAT ONE LOCATION, AND THEN WE WILL THEN STUDY THE OTHER LOCATIONS AND WHAT TRAILS EITHER NEED TO BE PROTECTED OR MOVED, WHAT BRIDGES NEED TO BE PROTECTED OR MOVED, AND IN OUR OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MOTION IS IN ORDER.

>> A MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, BRIAN.

ITEM 10, CONSIDER THE SCHOOL SECURITY INTER-LOCAL

[10. Consider the School Security Interlocal Agreement between the City of Grapevine and the Grapevine-Colleyville Independent School District, and take any necessary action.]

AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE GRAPEVINE-COLLEYVILLE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

MIKE HAMLIN, CHIEF.

>> THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS AGENDA ITEM SEEKS YOUR APPROVAL FOR AN INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE GRAPEVINE-COLLEYVILLE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PROVIDE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS FOR THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR.

AT THE DISTRICT BOARD MEETING ON JULY 29TH, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THIS INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT.

THIS AGREEMENT IS SIMILAR TO THE ONE YOU APPROVED ABOUT A YEAR AGO WITH GCISD.

ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE 88 REGULAR SESSION, HOUSE BILL NUMBER 3, WHICH MANDATES THE PRESENCE OF AT LEAST ONE ARMED OFFICER AT EVERY SCHOOL CAMPUS DURING REGULAR SCHOOL HOURS, THIS AGREEMENT ENSURES COMPLIANCE BY INCLUDING THE PROVISION FOR PLACING A GRAPEVINE POLICE OFFICER IN ALL GCISD SCHOOLS WITHIN THE CITY AND ONE DISTRICT SCHOOL IN THE CITY OF EULESS.

ADDITIONALLY, A DEDICATED SRO WILL BE AVAILABLE TO COVER ABSENCES OR OTHER TIMES WHEN AN SRO IS UNAVAILABLE.

A SUPERVISOR IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT.

THE ESTIMATED COST OF THIS AGREEMENT IS $1,784,755.

THE DISTRICT AGREES TO REIMBURSE THE CITY FOR THE INVOICE COSTS TO THE PROGRAM WITHIN 60 DAYS OF INVOICING.

LAST YEAR, STAFF WAS ASKED TO WORK WITH THE DISTRICT, AS YOU'LL REMEMBER TO IDENTIFY A LONG-TERM FUNDING METHOD FOR PROVIDING CITY SROS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THIS HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED, AND THE DISTRICT WILL USE FUNDS FROM THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING ZONES TO FUND THE SRO PROGRAM FOR THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR AND FUTURE YEARS.

ON EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT, IT WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE AND WILL AUTOMATICALLY RENEW ANNUALLY UNLESS EITHER PARTY NEEDS TO TERMINATE OR MODIFY THE AGREEMENT.

ONE LAST COMMENT THAT I WILL SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT I'M VERY, VERY PROUD OF CERTAINLY OUR SRO PROGRAM TEAM MEMBERS, BUT I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE DEPARTMENT, TOO, BECAUSE WE MADE A CATACLYSMIC SHIFT TO STAFF THAT PROGRAM AT THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

THE ORGANIZATION RESPONDED VERY WELL.

WE WERE ABLE TO ACROSS THE ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR, KEEP AN OFFICER IN EVERY SCHOOL AS THE AGREEMENT IN MY MIND, CALLED FOR ALONG WITH THE BILL.

THAT WAS A REMARKABLE UNDERTAKING, AND QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THEY DID.

WITH THAT A RECOMMEND APPROVAL, AND I'M TRYING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> JUST REFRESH MY MEMORY.

I KNOW WE WANTED TO HAVE THE SUPERVISOR, AND I'M ASSUMING THE SUB PERSON SRO COVERS VACATIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

ARE WE STILL TRYING TO CROSS-UTILIZE THESE PEOPLE? ARE THEY ONLY DEDICATED AS SROS? ARE WE STILL USING THEM IN THE DEPARTMENT TO FILL IN OTHER THINGS, OR ARE THEY JUST DEDICATED AS SROS?

>> THEY ARE JUST DEDICATED AS SROS.

WE DO HAVE A ROVER IN THIS GOING FORWARD IN THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR AND AS PART OF THIS ILA AGREEMENT.

>> THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOMEBODY ON VACATION?

>> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THERE WERE SOME 200 SHIFTS WE HAD TO COVER ACROSS THE SCHOOL YEAR ACROSS ALL SCHOOLS.

>> WELL, I WOULD MOVE FOR APPROVAL IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> WELL, THERE'S GOING TO QUESTIONS.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> CHIEF, LAST YEAR, WE DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT COLLEYVILLE AND GRAPEVINE HAVE STEPPED UP AND PROVIDED OFFICERS IN OUR CITIES.

EULESS HAS A SCHOOL IN THE CITY OF EULESS.

HAVE WE TALKED TO THEM AGAIN THIS YEAR ASKING IF THEY WOULD STEP UP AND DO THEIR PART?

>> THE ANSWER, MA'AM, IS NO, WE DIDN'T.

I JUST TOOK FOR GRANTED THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO FILL THAT SINCE WE HAD ALREADY STAFFED THAT AND MOVE THE AGREEMENTS IN THAT DIRECTION.

>> DO YOU THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE AT LEAST GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO STEP UP?

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THE SCHOOL IS IN THEIR CITY LIKE WE FUND OUR SCHOOLS IN COLLEYVILLE [OVERLAPPING].

>> CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE QUESTION IS.

LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN, REMEMBER, THEY'RE USING SCHOOL DISTRICT FUNDS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE PROGRAM.

SO 100% OF ALL OF THE SROS, WHETHER THEY'RE IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR THE BEAR CREEK ONE IS ARE BEING PAID 100% BY GCISD.

THE CITY OF EULESS, THEY KNOW THAT.

I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER, BECAUSE THE REAL QUESTION IS, IF YOU RECALL, IN THIS CURRENT OR AT LEAST IN THE PAST YEAR, THE BILL WAS SPLIT ON A 50/50 BASIS FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD.

THE CITY OF EULESS HAS AGREED TO PAY THEIR 50%.

THE OTHER 50% IS BEING PAID FOR BY GRAPEVINE-COLLEYVILLE ISD.

AFTER OCTOBER, NO FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT BY THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE OR WILL HAVE BEEN SPENT IN THE PAST YEAR FOR EULESS SRO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S MY ANSWER. YES, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT A MOTIONS IN ORDER.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? THANK YOU, CHIEF. MOTION CARRIES.

THIS BRINGS US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEMS 11-26 ARE NOT SCHEDULED FOR ANY COUNCIL DEBATE.

ANY GUEST PRESIDENT CAN ASK THAT ANY OF THOSE ITEMS BE REMOVED FOR FURTHER EVALUATION AND DISCUSSION.

DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS? NONE. ITEM 11-26 IS CONSENT.

MOTIONS IN ORDER.

>> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 11-26.

>> SECOND.

>> THE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

THAT CONSENT IS APPROVED, THAT COMPLETES OUR AGENDA FOR BEING WITH US.

A MOTION TO ADJOURN IS IN ORDER.

>> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? COUNCIL STANDS ADJOURNED.

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