Jul 16, 2024 Regular City Council &amp; Joint Planning and Zoning Commission

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOEL BEHRENS, I'M WITH TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY.

I OFFICE AT 2100 MCKINNEY AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75201.

I'VE BEEN WITH TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY FOR THE PAST 16 YEARS, AND I CURRENTLY SERVE AS OUR MANAGING DIRECTOR IN NORTH TEXAS.

I'M JOINED THIS EVENING BY FIVE OF MY COLLEAGUES.

I'LL NAME THEM REAL QUICK.

KEVIN HICKMAN, WHO'S BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH STAFF FOR SOME TIME ON THIS, SALLY RA, CONNER BEST, BLAKE REILLEY, AND GIO LINCON.

ALSO JOINED BY OUR PARTNERS WITH NORTHLAND SCOTT THOMPSON AND SCOTT HARWOOD, AS WELL AS OUR ARCHITECT, BRIAN MOORE, AND A COUPLE OF OTHER, HIS COLLEAGUES FROM GFF DESIGN.

TONIGHT'S AN EXCITING NIGHT FOR OUR TEAM.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.

I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME THIS EVENING, AND I PROMISE TO KEEP IT BRIEF IF.

WE HAVE EIGHT SLIDES, AND I'VE TIMED IT.

IT SHOULD BE UNDER NINE MINUTES.

THREE YEARS, TIME FLIES.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD ON THIS THING.

BUT MOST NOTABLY, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT WITHOUT THE HELP OF STAFF, AND THE DILIGENCE, AND APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND COMMITMENT THEY'VE GIVEN TO US AS WE TRIED TO SHAPE THIS PROJECT OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS.

REAL QUICK, BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE PLAN, I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY HIT ON THE TEAM HERE THAT'S WORKING ON THIS.

I'M JOINED, LIKE I MENTIONED, BY SCOTT THOMPSON AND SCOTT HARWOOD WITH NORTHLAND PROPERTIES.

FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, NORTHLAND WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1963, A FAMILY-OWNED BUSINESS, OWNED BY THE GAGLARDI FAMILY.

THE GAGLARDI FAMILY HAS BUILT AND ACQUIRED 17 BRANDS ACROSS SEVERAL INDUSTRIES.

ONE OF THE MOST NOTABLE BEING THE DALLAS STARS HERE.

BEYOND THE HOCKEY TEAM, IN 1967, NORTHLAND CREATED THE SAND MAN HOTEL GROUP, AND THEY REALLY BUILT IT UP TO BE QUITE THE HOTEL GROUP.

NORTHLAND IS UNIQUE IN THAT THEY OWN AND OPERATE THEIR HOTELS, AND SO I THINK THAT IS GREAT.

THEY HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF BUILDING AND OWNING HOTELS LONG TERM.

THEY HAVE 64 HOTELS RIGHT NOW, AROUND 11,500 HOTEL KEYS, AND REALLY A DILIGENT AND DELIBERATE PATH TO THEIR GROWTH, YOU KNOW, STARTING IN CANADA AND EXPANDING HERE IN NORTH TEXAS.

THIS WOULD BE THEIR FOURTH HOTEL IN NORTH TEXAS.

THEY HAVE TWO OPEN ALREADY, ONE IN PLANO, ONE IN FORT WORTH, ONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN IRVING, AND THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY HERE IN GRAPEVINE FOR A FEW YEARS, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO LOCK ARMS WITH THEM ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.

I'LL GET A BIT MORE ON THE TIMELINE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT JUST TO CLOSE THE LOOP, AS MENTIONED, I'M WITH TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY.

WE WERE FOUNDED IN DALLAS IN 1948.

LAST YEAR, WE CELEBRATED OUR 75TH YEAR IN BUSINESS.

IN NORTH TEXAS, WE'RE ACTIVE IN RETAIL, OFFICE, INDUSTRIAL, AND RESIDENTIAL.

NATIONALLY, WE'VE BEEN RANKED THE LARGEST DEVELOPER

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IN THE COUNTRY FOR THE PAST NINE YEARS.

EVERYBODY HERE LIVES IN NORTH TEXAS, AND THIS IS OUR BACKYARD.

WE ALL ARE EXCITED TO BE HERE TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU TONIGHT.

SINCE 2006, TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY HAS BEEN A WHOLLY-OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF CBRE.

CBRE IS THE WORLD'S LARGEST REAL ESTATE SERVICES FIRM.

I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT TCC'S RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS ARE DEVELOPED UNDER THE HIGH STREET RESIDENTIAL BRAND, WHICH IS ALSO THE SAME TEAM, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT LOGO ON THE PAGE.

I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT.

OUR PARENT COMPANY IS A FORTUNE 135 COMPANY.

THEY'RE HEADQUARTERED HERE IN DALLAS.

THEY RELOCATED THEIR HEADQUARTERS FROM CALIFORNIA A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND THEY EMPLOY OVER 130,000 PEOPLE GLOBALLY.

>> TIMELINE. I PROMISE I'M NOT GOING TO COVER EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, BUT I'M SURE YOU CAN APPRECIATE PROJECTS LIKE GRAPEVINE VILLAGE, WHICH AS WE'VE NAMED IT TO DATE, TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO GET TO THIS POINT.

THIS PROJECT IS ONE OF OUR LONGER PURSUITS, AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR OVER THREE YEARS TO GET TO THE POINT TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING.

OUR PURSUIT OF THE SITE BEGAN WHEN THE OWNER OF THE SITE, TOTAL ENERGIES, TOTAL, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW IS A LARGE MULTI-NATIONAL ENERGY AND PETROLEUM COMPANY.

THEY DECIDED TO MARKET THE SITE FOR SALE IN THE SUMMER OF 2021.

WE WERE SELECTED AND ULTIMATELY SIGNED A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT WITH THEM AT THE END OF '21.

IT'S TAKEN US A BIT TO GET HERE.

WE HAD TO WORK WITH THE OWNER OF THE MALL, SIMON PROPERTY GROUP, TO ADDRESS SOME DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE ON THIS PROPERTY, DATING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE MALL.

WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT WITH THE MOST RECENT DEED RESTRICTION BEING LIFTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.

ONCE WE FINALIZE THAT, WE'RE IN A POSITION TO OFFICIALLY SIGN OUR PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT WITH NORTHLAND, TO ALLOW THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR DESIGN AND PREPARE FOR OUR ZONING APPLICATION.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, THAT AND WORKING WITH STAFF TO TRY AND CRAFT A PLAN THAT WAS I THINK IN KEEPING WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

REALLY I JUST WANT TO SAY, WE APPRECIATE GRAPEVINE'S PROCESS TO DATE, STAFF HAS BEEN GREAT.

I THINK THAT CLEARLY LAYS OUT THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE CITY'S LAND USE GOALS AND DESIGN PREFERENCES.

ON THE SCREEN IS A MAP THAT HIGHLIGHTS OUR SITE, AS WELL AS THE DESCRIPTION TAKEN FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS SOME OF THE KEY DESIGN CHARACTERS THAT INFORMED OUR PLAN.

AGAIN, IT'S TAKEN FROM CITY DOCUMENTS, AND WE LIKE TO SAY WE LIKE TO SWIM WITH THE CURRENT, NOT AGAINST IT.

WANTED TO LOOK AT WHAT YALL'S VISION OF THIS WAS, AND HOW WE COULD TRY AND SHAPE SOMETHING THAT WAS FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR US, AS WELL AS FOR THE SELLER.

SOME OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS WE SAW WAS A PLAN THAT CONTEMPLATED RESIDENTIAL AS A POTENTIAL LAND USE IN A HORIZONTAL SETTING, MENTIONED,I THINK IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, OR NOT SESSION, BUT BRIEFING, IT'S NOT SO MUCH VERTICALLY INTEGRATED, BUT HORIZONTICALLY INTEGRATED, IN THAT WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL ON A PORTION OF THE SITE, AND THEN HOTEL ON A PORTION OF THE SITE.

THEN ALSO TAKING A CUE FROM THE NEIGHBORING MULTI-FAMILY TO THE NORTH, AND TO THE WEST WITH THE GABLED PITCH ROOFS.

WE WANTED TO KEEP WITH THAT EXISTING ARCHITECTURE, AND SOME OF THE TWO KEY TRAITS THAT HELPED INFORM OUR PLANNING AS WELL AS A LOT MORE.

FROM OUR INITIAL MEETING WITH STAFF, TO THE FINALIZATION OF OUR ZONING APPLICATION, THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND STEWARDSHIP OF THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT PROCESS HAS BEEN BEST IN CLASS.

WE THOROUGHLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH ARCHITEXAS.

THAT WAS A NEW EXPERIENCE FOR US, AND I THINK REALLY IT'S GREAT.

WE ENJOYED IT. THEY MADE US BETTER.

SPECIFICALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH ROBIN AND CRAIG, AS THEY CHALLENGED OUR TEAM TO DELIVER A WORLD-CLASS DESIGN THAT IS IN KEEPING WITH THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURAL VISION.

MOST NOTABLY, THEY CHALLENGE OUR INITIAL SITE PLAN TO CREATE A STRONGER SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

THE SKETCH ON THE UPPER RIGHT WAS THEIR INITIAL THOUGHTS AND HOW WE COULD ADJUST OUR PLAN TO CREATE A STRONGER NEIGHBORHOOD.

I GUESS CRAIG MENTIONED IN AN ARTICLE THAT WAS INCLUDED, NOT ARTICLE, BUT IN A LETTER TO ERICA THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

HE POINTED OUT THAT CIRCULAR ROAD IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE CREATES A CENTRAL HUB FOR ALL INTERNAL CIRCULATION, WHICH IS ANNOUNCED WITH A SHANG LANDMARK, AND SERVES TO CONNECT THE MIX OF USES, THE OPEN SPACES, THE PARKING FIELDS, AND THE TRAILS, WHICH COMPLETELY AGREE.

IT WAS NOT OUR IDEA, IT WAS THEIRS, AND I THINK WE REALLY EMBRACED IT AND TRIED TO WORK WITH THE GEOMETRY OF THE SITE TO REALLY CREATE A REALLY NICE SENSE OF COMMUNITY, AND APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS TO HELP IMPROVE THE PLAN.

OUR GOAL WITH THE SITE PLAN WAS TO.

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I'LL SWITCH SLIDES. SORRY. WAS TO CREATE A HORIZONTAL MIXED-USE VILLAGE WITH A STRONG SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

IN ADDITION TO A CIRCULAR ROAD AND A SIGNATURE LANDMARK IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE, THERE WAS A FEW OTHER DESIGN POINTS THAT I WANT TO MENTION THAT WE BELIEVE SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE HAVE 25% OF THE SITE AREA, OR ABOUT SEVEN ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.

ARCHITEXAS EMPHASIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF CREATING A PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY COMMUNITY.

OUR TEAM AIMED TO INTEGRATE THE OPEN SPACE AND AMENITIES WITHIN THE PROJECT.

THE END PRODUCT HAS AN EXCEPTIONAL WALKABILITY COMPONENT, WITH APPROXIMATELY THREE MILES OF TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS ACROSS THE SITE, WHICH WE THINK WILL OBVIOUSLY BENEFIT RESIDENTS, THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, AS WELL AS HOTEL GUESTS.

THE SANDMAN SIGNATURE HOTEL ANCHORS THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE.

WE WERE THRILLED SANDMAN SAW THE OPPORTUNITY AND INVESTED 2.5 YEARS WITH US TO DEVELOP A BEST-IN-CLASS HOTEL IN GRAPEVINE.

IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING 249 HOTEL KEYS, THE HOTEL WILL OFFER MUCH NEEDED MEETING SPACE, AS WELL AS FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT THAT WILL FRONT GRAPEVINE MILLS PARKWAY.

IN AN EFFORT TO DEVELOP A PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE UTILIZE PARALLEL STREET PARKING AS WELL THROUGHOUT THE PLAN, WHICH WE REALLY BELIEVES ENCOURAGE SLOWER SPEEDS AND PROMOTES A MORE WALKABLE COMMUNITY.

BUILDING ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEELING, WE UTILIZE GABLE ROOFS AND STRIVE TO CREATE A UNIQUE IDENTITY FOR THE MULTIFAMILY COMPONENTS THAT TIES INTO THE CHARM OF GRAPEVINE.

IN TOTAL OUR PLAN INCORPORATES A 249-KEY SIGNATURE SANDMAN HOTEL, A SECOND HOTEL SITE THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE APPROXIMATELY 200 KEYS, AS WELL AS 296 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, WHICH INCLUDES 143 AND FOUR-STORY MULTIFAMILY UNITS, AND 156 TWO-STORY MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOME STYLED UNITS.

ON THE SCREEN NOW IS A RENDERING OF THE SANDMAN SIGNATURE HOTEL, FROM THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE GRAPEVINE MILLS BOULEVARD AND GRAPEVINE MILLS PARKWAY.

AS PICTURED ON THE SCREEN, THE HOTEL IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THAT CHOPS STEAKHOUSE AND BAR RESTAURANT, WHICH TOTALS ABOUT 9,500 SQUARE FEET.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, SOME GREAT BANQUET AND MEETING ROOM SPACE THAT TOTALS RIGHT AROUND 4,200 SQUARE FEET.

THIS SLIDE SHOWCASES THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS DESIGN.

THE BRICK FACADE AND PITCH ROOFS ALIGN WITH GRAPEVINE'S CHARM AND EXISTING SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL.

WHEN CONSIDERING WHO WILL RESIDE IN THIS PROJECT, WE STUDIED A PROJECT WITH SIMILAR EXECUTION THAT OUR TEAM RECENTLY DEVELOPED IN PLANO.

THE PLANO PROJECT HAD 363 UNITS, INCLUDING 141 TOWNHOME-STYLE MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

WE LEARNED THAT DUE TO THE HIGHER LEVEL OF FINISH, THE LARGER UNIT SIZE, AND SUBSEQUENT HIGHER PRICE POINT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT LARGER UNIT SIZE, THIS PROJECT TENDS TO ATTRACT A MATURE AND HIGH-EARNING DEMOGRAPHIC.

I WOULD ADD THAT THE TOWNHOME MULTIFAMILY UNITS HAVE ALSO BEEN ATTRACTIVE TO FOLKS WHO ALREADY RESIDE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ARE LOOKING FOR A SIMPLER, MAYBE EMPTINESS OR LATER IN LIFE LOCK AND LEAVE LIFESTYLE, WHICH WE'VE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT INTEREST IN THAT AS WELL FOR THOSE STYLED UNITS.

SPECIFICALLY WANT TO CALL OUT THE IMAGE ON THE TOP LEFT, WHICH WAS A KEY PART OF THE OVERALL SITE PLANNING.

HERE WE HAVE A LARGE SPECIMEN TREE, SURROUNDED BY BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPING, A WALKING TRAIL AND SEATING AREA FOR RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS HOTEL GUESTS TO ENJOY.

WITH THAT, COME TO AN END.

HOPEFULLY THAT WAS UNDER NINE MINUTES.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE TIME TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

OUR TEAMS WORK VERY HARD TO DEVELOP A PLAN THAT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, AND WILL GENERATE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TAX REVENUE WHILE IN PROVIDING TWO BOUTIQUE HOTELS FOR GRAPEVINE.

WE'RE COMMITTED TO DELIVERING A BEST-IN-CLASS MIXED-USE PROJECT IN OUR BACKYARD HERE IN GRAPEVINE.

OUR FRIENDS AT NORTHLAND ARE EQUALLY COMMITTED TO BUILDING A GREAT HOTEL.

THEY FLEW DOWN HERE FROM CANADA, LAST NIGHT TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO FURTHER SHOW THEIR COMMITMENT.

THAT SAID, THEIR COMMITMENT HAS BEEN STEADFAST OVER THE PAST 2.5 YEARS, WHICH IS FURTHER EVIDENCED BY THEIR COMMITMENT TO DESIGN, SPENDING OVER $600,000 IN DESIGN TO GET HERE THIS EVENING WITH US NORTHLAND WILL BE CLOSING ON THEIR SITE.

AT THE SAME TIME WE PURCHASED THE SITE FROM TOTAL.

THAT COMMITMENT IS REAL. THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT, AND WE WON'T BE BUYING THIS SITE WITHOUT THEM.

WE INTEND TO START INFRASTRUCTURE WORK ON THE SITE THIS FALL WITH VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION OCCURRING IN THE FIRST HALF OF NEXT YEAR.

WE WOULD REALLY NOT BE HERE THIS EVENING IF NOT FOR NORTHLAND'S COMMITMENT TO THIS PROJECT AND IN BUILDING IN GRAPEVINE.

WITH THAT, IT CONCLUDES MY REMARKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> QUESTIONS FOR MR. [INAUDIBLE] ANY MORE PRESENTATION?

>> THAT IS FOR OUR PREPARED PRESENTATION.

>> DID YOUR LAND USE MAP INDICATE THAT

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MULTI-FAMILY'S ONE OF THE PERMITTED USES ON THIS PROPERTY?

>> YES, SIR. THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE.

I BELIEVE THAT CAME INTO BEING IN 2017, THROUGH A FUTURE LAND USE LONG-RANGE PLANNING EXERCISE. IT WAS ADOPTED.

ALSO WHEN THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DESIGN STANDARDS WERE CREATED AND ADOPTED IN 2017, THIS AREA WAS IDENTIFIED AS DISTRICT 5, SO THE GRAPEVINE MILLS NORTH DISTRICT CHARACTER AREA, WHICH MAY BE AN APPROPRIATE AREA FOR FUTURE MULTI-FAMILY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN?

>> ANY QUESTIONS, MR. BARONS?

>> REALLY QUICK. WHICH WILL GO FIRST? WILL THE HOTEL GO FIRST OR MULTIFAMILY?

>> THE FIRST STEP IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN OUR PLAN IS TO BUILD THEM CONCURRENTLY WITH.

>> YOU NEED TO STAY UP THERE BECAUSE WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

>> HAPPY TO STAY AS LONG.

>> HEY, I HAVE SEVERAL. FIRST ONE, DO THE TOWNHOMES AND THE APARTMENT SHARE THAT ONE POOL?

>> YES, THEY DO.

>> I WAS DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THE HOTEL LAYOUT BECAUSE SEEMS LIKE OF LATE WE PERSUADED DEVELOPERS TO USE PARKING GARAGES INSTEAD OF HAVING THE WHOLE SURROUND OF THE HOTEL BEING PARKING LOTS.

WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS CONSIDERED AT ALL?

>> FROM THE BEGINNING IT WAS CONTEMPLATED TO BE A SURFACE PARKING LOT.

>> IF YOU CAN GO BACK ONE SLIDE, THE CIRCLE WITH THE SPECIMEN TREE.

>> YEP.

>> WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR IT.

>> I'M SEEING IT.

IT'S NOT SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.

I THINK I CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE IT IS.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS POINTS, BUT I HAVE THE SITE PLAN UP.

IT'S AS YOU COME IN OFF THE SOUTHERN DRIVE OFF GREAT FINE MILLS PARKWAY, THE STREET DEAD ENDS TO THE CIRCLE, AND THEN IT CAN GO LEFT OR RIGHT.

THE TREE IS SIGNATURE POINT FROM THAT SOUTHERN DRIVE INTO THE SITE AS YOU HEAD WEST ACROSS THE SITE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM [INAUDIBLE]?

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL?

>> I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PARKING.

NOT SO MUCH FOR THE HOTEL, BUT FOR THE MULTIFAMILY? ON THE PLAN, I KNOW THERE'S ONE-CAR GARAGES.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT?

>> SURE.

>> DO THEY COME ON THE ROAD? I JUST CAN'T TELL ON YOUR PLAN ABOUT THE PARKING.

>> IT SHOWED UP BEST MAYBE IN THE STAFF PRESENTATION WHERE THEY HAD ELEVATIONS OF OUR TOWNHOMES.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS THE FRONT ENTRY TO THE TOWNHOMES.

ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE TOWNHOMES WE WILL HAVE TWO CAR GARAGES FOR EVERY SINGLE TOWNHOME.

EVERY TOWNHOME HAS TWO GARAGES THAT ARE ENCLOSED AT THE GROUND FLOOR OF THEIR UNIT.

THEN THE THREE AND FOUR-STORY MULTIFAMILY UNITS ARE PARKS IN THE SURFACE.

THEN ALSO TUCK UNDER GARAGES THAT FACE THE SURFACE PARKING LOT.

>> IF I GO AND I LOOK ALONG THERE WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE PERIMETER ROAD.

YOU HAVE THE ENTRANCE OFF GRAPEVINE MILLS, AND THEN YOU HAVE THAT PERIMETER ROAD.

DO THEY PULL IN FROM THAT ROAD? IS THAT WHERE THEY GET IN AND PARK ON BOTH SIDES, SO THERE'S GARAGES FACING GARAGES ON THOSE SETS?

>> THAT'S RIGHT, THERE'S GARAGES FACING GARAGES, YES.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

>> ALL THE YELLOW ONES HERE ARE THE TOWNHOMES WITH THE TWO-CAR GARAGES? AND SOME OF THEM THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT LEVELS.

>> THEY'RE ALL TWO STORY. YES.

>> WELL, THE GARAGE PLUS TWO STORY, RIGHT?

>> NO, IT'S TWO-STORY TOWNHOMES, WITH THE FIRST FLOOR BEING A GARAGE, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE THERE'S A LIVING AREA.

YOU WALK IN THE FRONT DOOR TO A LIVING AREA.

YOU CAN GO UP A STAIRS TO THE 11 AREA ON THE UPSTAIRS.

BUT IF YOU KEEP WALKING THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR TO THE BACK OF THE UNIT, YOU'LL ENTER THE GARAGE.

>> OF THE 296 UNITS, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE IN THE TOWNHOMES?

>>THERE'S 156, I BELIEVE, 156.

>> THEN 140 IS THE [INAUDIBLE]?

>> THE OTHER COLOR, YES, THE LARGER BUILDINGS.

GOT IT. THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> THE ROAD THAT GOES AROUND WHERE THE CARS PULL INTO THE PARKING GARAGES, WHAT'S THE WIDTH OF THAT ROAD? OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT A STANDARD ROAD.

IS IT JUST A DRIVE AROUND? I ASSUME IT'S A TWO-WAY ROAD, A TWO-WAY STREET?

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>> TWENTY-SIX FEET.

>> IT'S 26 FEET? THEN ON THE ONES ON THE EAST SIDE NEAREST THE HOTEL.

OBVIOUSLY I KNOW IT'S TO SCALE, BUT IT'S CONFUSING.

BUT THEY'LL PULL OUT THEN FROM THE BACK THERE?

>> THAT'S RIGHT. THEY'LL FACE THE PARKING FIELD.

>> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DESCRIBE WHERE I'M LOOKING OR NOT.

THERE'S QUARTER CIRCLE FROM THE TOP OVER TO THE LEFT OF THE DRAWING, AND THE OUTSIDE ROW OF BUILDINGS.

DO YOU HAVE A VISUAL OR A DRAWING THAT SHOWS US THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS OF THOSE?

>> OF THE TWO-STORY TOWNHOMES THAT FACE GRAPEVINE MILLS BOULEVARD?

>> YES, SIR. OR WHATEVER THOSE ARE.

BECAUSE ON HERE I DON'T SEE ANY ARTICULATION IN THOSE LIKE I DO IN THE APARTMENTS.

THESE LOOK LIKE JUST A RECTANGULAR BUILDING.

>> THERE'S ARTICULATION IN TERMS OF THE IN AND OUTS OF THEM.

THEN THERE'S A VARIATION OF COLORS OF THEM AS WELL, BUT IT'S NOT STRAIGHT FLAT ACROSS.

>> IS THIS AN EXAMPLE OF THEM IN THE TOP RIGHT ON THE SCREEN NOW?

>> THEN IN THE BOTTOM LEFT, THOSE WOULD BE APARTMENTS?

>> YEAH. WELL, ON THE LEFT AND THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND IMAGE, THE TYPICAL CONVENTIONAL MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS, THAT'S THE FOUR-STORY ONE THAT I MENTIONED.

THEN YOU CAN SEE IN THE RIGHT-HAND IMAGE OF THAT SAME RENDERING, YOU CAN SEE TOWNHOMES AS WELL.

>> BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AND THE CONVERSATION ABOUT PARKING.

THE TOWNHOMES ON THOSE TWO ROWS OF BUILDINGS THAT I REFERENCED IN THE TOP LEFT, WHERE IS THE PARKING GARAGE FOR THOSE?

>> FOR ALL THE TOWNHOMES' PARKING IS IN THE TOWN HOME ITSELF.

>> IN THE TOWN HOME ITSELF.

THERE'S NO SURFACE PARKING AND AROUND THOSE, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> STREET SURFACE PARKING THROUGHOUT THE INTERIOR STREETS.

>> THE STREET THAT DARLENE WAS REFERENCING A MINUTE AGO, I'M LOOKING AT THE ONE THAT HAS STREET TREES ALONG THE SIDE, ON LINING THE STREET.

THAT IS THE ONE THAT THE STREET IS 26 FEET WIDE?

>> THE STREET SECTION ON THE INTERNAL DRIVES IS A LITTLE BIT WIDER BECAUSE YOU HAVE SURFACE PARKING ON EITHER SIDE AND SIDEWALKS, SO IT'S GOING TO FEEL AND OPERATE MORE AS A CONVENTIONAL PUBLIC STREET, IF YOU WILL.

>> HOW WIDE ARE THE DRIVING LANES THERE?

>> WHAT'S THAT?

>> HOW WIDE ARE THE DRIVING LANES THERE?

>> THE LANE ITSELF IS 26, THEN YOU HAVE EIGHT FOOT PARKING AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SIDEWALK BEHIND THAT.

>> HOW MANY DRIVING LANES ARE THERE ON THOSE STREETS AND WHAT IS THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVING LANES PLACE?

>> THERE'S THE DRIVING LANE IN EACH DIRECTION AND IT'S 13 FEET PER LANE.

>> PER LANE.

>> YEAH. IT'S A TWO-WAY STREET.

>> FOR EACH DRIVING LANE?

>> YES, 13 FOOT DRIVING LANE FOR A TOTAL OF 26 FOOT DIMENSION.

>> THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE PARKING [OVERLAPPING]?

>> THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PARKING. NO..

>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

>> HOW MANY TOWNHOMES ARE THERE GOING TO BE?

>> THERE'S 156.

>> HOW MANY?

>> HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX.

>> A 156 OF THESE AND THAT LEAVES 140 APARTMENTS.

>> THE PICTURE WHERE YOU HAD WHERE THE FLOOR ELEVATIONS, IS THAT THE TOWNHOMES ON THE UPPER RIGHT?

>> IS THAT THE FRONT OR THE BACK OF THOSE?

>> THAT'S THE FRONT. YOU HAVE THE FRONT DOOR ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

>> THEY'RE SURE PLAIN JANE [OVERLAPPING] COMPARED TO THE REST OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT.

>> WELL, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN DEVELOPING THE RENDERINGS AND WE FEEL DIFFERENTLY, BUT SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY.

WE WORKED HARD WITH STAFF AND ARCHITECT IN ARCHITEXAS AND THEY HAD A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS IN TERMS OF CLASSICAL ARCHITECTURE AND HOW TO DEVELOP A GABLE TOWNHOME THAT WAS TIMELESS IN DESIGN AND THAT WOULD BE IN KEEPING WITH THE DESIGN INTENT.

QUITE HONESTLY, IN TERMS OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHERE WE'VE LOOKED THAT ARE WORKING ON OTHER TOWN HOME DESIGN PROJECTS, THIS IS THE MOST ELEVATED DESIGN THAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE AND I'D SAY IT WAS INFLUENCED AND HELPED BY ARCHITEXAS.

IT REALLY GRADES YOUR PRODUCT AND THEY'RE ALONG THE FRONTAGE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD COME IN WITH A PRODUCT LIKE THAT, QUITE FRANKLY.

ON THE SECOND HOTEL, WHAT CAN YOU DO TO ASSURE US THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COME IN AND ASK FOR MORE APARTMENTS THERE?

>> WE WILL NOT ASK FOR MORE APARTMENTS SOON.

WE WOULD AGREE TO NEVER ASK FOR MORE APARTMENTS ON THAT LAND.

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WE WANT TO BUILD ANOTHER HOTEL.

>> DO THEY RESTRICT THAT FOR A HOTEL?

>> ON THE TOWNHOMES, THOSE THOUGH ARE A FOR RENT PRODUCT, THEY'RE NOT A FOR SALE PRODUCT.

I KNOW YOU REFER TO THEM AS TOWNHOMES, BUT TRADITIONALLY, TOWNHOMES ARE A FOR SALE PRODUCT.

>> WE UNDERSTAND, WE'VE BEEN COACHED THAT YOU ALL ARE SENSITIVE TO THAT.

WE ARE 100% THAT'S WHY WE CALL THEM MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOME STYLE BECAUSE IT IS 100% FOR RENT.

>> THEY'RE BASICALLY ALL APARTMENTS?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> IT'S 296 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

>> FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO APPROVE THIS AND I'M ACTUALLY DEAD SET AGAINST ANY OF MORE APARTMENTS IN GRAPEVINE.

I THINK OUR COMMUNITY, IF YOU'VE WATCHED COUNCIL MEETINGS AND IF YOU'VE REACHED OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY, APARTMENTS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMUNITY REALLY SUPPORTS OR WANTS AND I DON'T REALLY EITHER.

I'M SORRY THAT YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT, MONEY ON THIS WITHOUT REALLY RESEARCH A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I'D BE VERY SURPRISED IF IT GETS APPROVED, BUT I'LL CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION BUT I'M DEAD SET AGAINST THIS.

>> WELL, APPRECIATE YOUR POINT OF VIEW.

I'D SAY, WE HAVE SPENT THREE YEARS.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS TO GET TO THIS POINT.

WE LOOKED AT THE FUTURE LAND USE, WE LOOKED AT WHAT THE MARKET WOULD ALLOW IN THIS SITE AND TRIED VERY HARD WITH STAFF AND WITH ARCHITECTS AND TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THE CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE PLAN HAD TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT COULD THREAD THE NEEDLE WITH MEETING THE MARKET, DELIVERING MORE HOTEL KEYS IN A COMMUNITY THAT I THINK HAS A LOT OF DEMAND FOR HOTEL.

THAT WAS A KEY PART OF IT.

THEN WE LOOKED AT WHAT THE BALANCE OF THE SITE COULD ACCOMMODATE IN A WORLD WHERE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT IS NIL RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE A SELLER THAT'S TRYING TO SELL THE LAND, AND WE TRIED TO WORK WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AND WITH WHAT WOULD REALLY MEET THE MARKET WITH THEM.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT.

BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE GOT INTO THIS EYES WIDE OPEN AND HAD LOTS AND LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS AND MOVED SLOWLY AND DELIBERATELY OVER THREE YEARS AND DID NOT RUSH TO DO ANYTHING AND TRIED TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY WE COULD TO DEVELOP A PLAN THAT WOULD BE WELL RECEIVED.

>> YOU SAY YOU'VE WORKED ON IT THREE YEARS, NO ONE HAS EVER REACHED OUT TO ME AND ASKED ME AS A DECISION MAKER WHAT WE THOUGHT OR WHAT WE THOUGHT IT MAY LOOK LIKE.

I THINK IF YOU APPROACH US AS A HOTEL IN SOME DESTINATION FOR MAYBE VISITOR, SURE, I THINK WE'RE FOR THAT.

BUT WHEN YOU THROW IN APARTMENTS, IT JUST KILLS THE WHOLE PROJECT FOR ME.

>> WELL, I HEAR YOU.

>> IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THE HOTEL GETS DEVELOPED EVEN IF THE MULTIFAMILY IS NOT APPROVED?

>> I DON'T THINK THE LAND WILL TRANSACT IF THE ZONING ISN'T OBTAINED, NOT WITH US OR WITH NORTHLAND.

>> I THINK THE HOTEL IS MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE AND DESIRABLE THAN THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

>> WE UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMICS OF THE UNDERLYING LAND SITE AND WHAT THE SELLER IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE AND WHAT A HOTEL CAN AFFORD TO PAY IN THE CURRENT MARKET ENVIRONMENT.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY A WAY TO SUBSIDIZE THE HOTEL USES ON THE FRONTAGE TO MAKE A TRANSACTION HAPPEN AND ENCOURAGE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT THE ALLOWING OR THE ABILITY TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SIDE IS UNDERWRITING OR ALLOWING THE EASTERN TRACT TO BE FREED UP TO BUILD BOTH THE HOTELS.

THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE DOWN THE OVERALL SITE TO DO THEIR PLAN GIVEN THE COSTS OF THE SITE AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE SITE IS EQUAL TO WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR IT.

IT'S AN EXPENSIVE SITE TO IMPROVE.

>> I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A LOT OF BUILT MULTIFAMILY AROUND THERE.

OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF DEMAND FOR MULTIFAMILY AND I'M SURE THAT THE NUMBERS YOU'VE LOOKED AT SUPPORT ADDITIONAL SOME MULTIFAMILY.

I THINK MY CONCERN IS LESS ABOUT SINCE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE AND THERE IS A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY THERE.

TWO THOUGHTS IN A QUESTION, BUT THE UPPER RIGHT, I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR, I DO THINK IT WOULD MAKE IT MORE INTERESTING TO USE A LITTLE BIT VARIATION OF MATERIAL AND COLOR TO MAKE IT LOOK.

IF YOU REALLY WANT IT TO APPEAR LIKE TOWNHOMES EVEN THOUGH IT IS A FOR RENT PRODUCT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU COULD MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE INTERESTING FROM THE ELEVATION.

THAT'S MY THOUGHT.

THEN IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE WHOLE SITE, THIS ONE, WHERE THE CIRCLE IS AS YOU COME IN AND YOU'VE GOT THOSE UNITS THAT ARE REAL CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE,

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YOU HAVE THOSE OTHER UNITS.

ARE THOSE UNITS OR WHAT IS THAT THAT ARE REAL CLOSE? ARE EACH ONE OF THOSE A UNIT?

>> ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LOT.

>> YEAH, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LARGE CIRCLE TREE.

>> ANYTHING IN YELLOW.

>> THOSE ARE TOWNHOMES AND THEY'RE OFFSET AND FACETED AROUND THE OVAL TO CREATE A SIGNATURE LANDMARK UPON THE ARRIVAL.

THERE'S MORE ARTICULATION OF THOSE AND A STEPPING OF THEM AS THEY MOVE AROUND THE SEMICIRCLE OR OVAL OF THE TREE.

>> I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, PARTICULARLY THE ONES ON THE ENDS HOW THEY GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR GARAGE.

MAYBE IT'S MISLEADING THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT.

IT'S MORE DISTANCE THAN IT LOOKS LIKE.

IT JUST LOOKS LIKE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO GET IN AND OUT OF A GARAGE.

>> IT IS. I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU COULD SEE THAT.

WE DID WORK WITH OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO LOOK AT ALL THE RADIUSES AND TURNS AND FEEL LIKE THE ENTRY IS A COMFORTABLE ENTRY FOR THOSE CARS TO MAKE.

>> I KNOW YOUR PLAN IS TO BUILD THESE CONCURRENT, CORRECT?

>> YOU BET.

>> THE THING THAT IF THIS WAS APPROVED, WE'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT IS BUILDING MULTIFAMILY AND THEN THE HOTEL NEVER GETTING BUILT.

COULD WE BE WILLING TO TIE THE CO FOR BOTH TOGETHER, THE MULTIFAMILY AND HOTEL THE SAME TIME?

>> HE SAID WOULD INDEED RESTRICT THOSE.

>> NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE HOTEL THAT HE'S BUILDING AND THE MULTIFAMILY GET A CO, CAN'T GET A CO FOR ONE WITHOUT GETTING A CO FOR BOTH.

>> OR AT LEAST YOU HAVE TO GET THE HOTEL FIRST.

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT SAY THAT AND THEY BUILD MULTIFAMILY, WE NEVER SEE THE HOTEL.

[LAUGHTER] WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

>> I UNDERSTAND. I THINK I'VE MADE SOME COMMENTS ON THAT EARLIER AND WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS 75 YEARS AND WE DO WHAT WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO.

BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE INSIDE OF OUR CONTROL AND OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.

WHAT I CAN CONTROL IS I WON'T BUY THE SITE UNLESS I SELL IT TO A EXTREMELY REPUTABLE HOTEL GROUP THAT HAS I THINK A BEST IN CLASS REPUTATION OF DOING WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

THAT SAID, THE WORLD CAN CHANGE.

YOU THINK OF CATASTROPHIC EVENTS THAT CAN AFFECT TRAVEL AND LEISURE, THAT COULD AFFECT HOTEL DEMAND.

WE DON'T FORESEE ANY OF THAT HAPPENING.

WE'RE TRYING TO DISCONNECT THAT.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TIE IT TO IS THE FACT THEY SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY TO DESIGN A HOTEL TO GET TO THIS POINT.

THEY'RE COMMITTED TO ADVANCING THAT DESIGN AND BUYING THE SITE TO BUILD A HOTEL AND ONLY A HOTEL, NOT US CONTROLLING IT ANYMORE BUT RATHER SOMEBODY THAT OWNS 64 HOTELS THAT'S HERE TONIGHT AND THEN WANTS TO BUILD IT.

THAT'S WHAT WE CAN COMMIT TO.

WE WOULD ALSO HAD SHARE THAT WE WOULD COMMIT TO SUBMITTING FOR PERMIT AS WELL.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE CO, THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS, TWO DIFFERENT CAPITAL PARTNERS.

YOU HAVE LENDERS AND EQUITY PARTNERS THAT ARE BUILDING THE MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT AND THEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S BUILDING THE OTHER COMPONENT.

SOMEONE IS NOT GOING TO GIVE US MONEY TO BUILD THE MULTIFAMILY OPPONENT LIKE A LENDER WON'T IF THEY DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN GET A CO, BUT WHAT THEY WOULD DO AND WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE CAN COMMIT TO SELLING TO THEM AND WE COMMIT TO SUBMITTING FOR PERMIT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO COMPLETE CDS AND BUY A SITE WITHOUT THE FULL INTENTION OF DOING WHAT WE PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT.

I WOULD HOPE YOU COULD UNDERSTAND.

IT'S A BIT DIFFERENT THAN ME STANDING UP HERE AND SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THIS.

THEY'RE A FAMILY-OWNED COMPANY THAT HAVE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME AND MONEY TO GET HERE, AND THEY'RE HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE FACT THAT BAD THINGS CAN HAPPEN AND THINGS CAN CHANGE.

ONCE WE BUY THE SITE AND THEY BUY IT FROM US, WE WANT TO KNOW THAT WE CAN IMPROVE THE SITE, THAT WE CAN DO ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BECAUSE ALL THOSE THINGS ARE GOOD FOR THE REAL ESTATE, THEY'RE GOOD FOR GRAPEVINE.

WE'RE PREPARING A SITE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR A SITE THAT IS ONLY GOING TO ALLOW HOTEL, WHICH WE THINK IS A DESIRABLE THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ERICA.

ERICA, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE BUYING THE WHOLE SITE AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO SELL OFF THE ONE SITE FOR HOTEL, WILL THAT REQUIRE A SEPARATE PLAT? WILL THAT HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE US?

>> YOU HAVE A REPLAT FOR CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THIS OVERALL PACKAGE FOR THE MASTER SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THIS EVENING.

>> HOW WILL THAT WORK?

>> IT REPLATS THAT SEPARATELY?

>> IT'S HAPPENING THIS EVENING.

>> I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE PLANNING TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND THEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH IS GOING TO BUY THE HOTEL.

>> YEAH, REAL QUICK, I HAD MENTIONED THE NAME AND THEN POINTED OUT THEM.

>> MAYBE HE COME UP AND SPEAK, PLEASE?

>> YEAH. THIS IS SCOTT THOMPSON AND HE'S JOINED BY SCOTT HARWOOD, TWO SCOTTS.

BUT WE WILL NOT BE PURCHASING THE SITE IF THEY'RE NOT PURCHASING IT.

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WE HAVE ANOTHER PARTNER THAT'S BUYING THE LAND WITH US AND AT THE SAME TIME WE BUY THE LAND FROM TOTAL, WE ARE SELLING IT TO NORTHLAND THAT SAME DAY.

>> I THINK THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS THE MULTIFAMILY BY ITSELF.

>> IT'S HARD TO GET TOO EXCITED ABOUT.

THE HOTEL IS MUCH MORE INTERESTING, SO I JUST WANT TO GET A SENSE OF BECAUSE NOW I'M NOT SURE.

[LAUGHTER] IF YOU WOULD SPEAK FROM THERE MR. THOMPSON?

>> YEAH, SCOTT THOMPSON WITH NORTHLAND PROPERTIES.

>> IF YOU WOULD SPEAK FOR A MINUTE AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOUR PLAN IS.

>> SURE. AS PRESENTED, LOOKING TO DEVELOP A 249 SANDMAN SIGNATURE HOTEL, WHICH IS A THREE-AND-A-HALF STAR.

IT'S BETWEEN 3.5-4 STAR BECAUSE WE HAVE A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT ATTACHED TO IT.

THAT'S AS PRESENTED, WE WOULD LOVE TO BE HERE IN THIS MARKET.

UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO PURCHASE 23 ACRES, WE'RE LOOKING TO PURCHASE SIX ACRES.

WE HAVE MADE COMMITMENTS AS FAR AS COMMITTING TO SUBMIT FOR A BUILDING PERMIT WITHIN SIX MONTHS.

TO GIVE YOU A SENSE, WE ARE JUST COMPLETING A HOTEL RIGHT NOW IN LAS COLINAS THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED BY 2025 AND WE INTEND JUST TO MOVE OUR PEOPLE OVER FROM THAT SITE TO THIS SITE.

WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1963.

WE'VE NEVER SOLD A HOTEL SITE IN OUR ENTIRE LIFE, DON'T INTEND TO.

AS JOEL SAID IS THAT WE SAY WHAT WE DO.

WE'RE INTENDING TO BE IN GRAPEVINE.

I SPOKE WITH THE OWNER TODAY ABOUT THIS AND THAT COMMITMENT REMAINS.

>> YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY?

>> CORRECT. TO PURCHASE SIX ACRES OF THE LARGER PARCEL.

>> I THINK YOU REFERENCED ANOTHER TRACT DOWN HERE FOR A FUTURE HOTEL.

WHAT'S THE STORY ON THAT? CAN YOU GIVE US SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THAT?

>> WE HAVE BEEN MARKETING IT TO HOTEL DEVELOPERS AND OPERATORS THAT'D BE INTERESTED IN IT.

WE, AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK, TOURED MARRIOTT, THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST FROM OTHER FLAGS, BUT WE'VE BEEN MET WITH THE RESPONSE OF, "WE WANT TO SEE YOU GUYS THROUGH YOUR ZONING CASE.

WE'RE INTERESTED, BUT COME TALK TO US ONCE YOU GET THAT DONE, AND WE MORE OR LESS KNOW THERE'S A DEAL HERE." WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WE'RE IN ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS WITH AND THAT WE'RE OPTIMISTIC THAT IT'S A SITE THAT COULD COME IN DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF.

HOPEFULLY, SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU IN 6-12 MONTHS.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME, WE NEED TO CLOSE.

WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THAT SITE.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE GOING TO PREPARE IT FOR A HOTEL, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MARKET IT AND COME BACK HERE. HOPEFULLY SOON.

>> THANK YOU, FAIR ENOUGH. OBVIOUSLY, THE APARTMENTS ARE THE STICKING POINT HERE.

THE STAFF HAS DONE SOME ANALYSIS OF THE EXISTING APARTMENTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE HERE.

THERE'S ALMOST AS MANY AS THERE ARE HOMES, AND SO WE'RE FACING A TIPPING POINT WHERE WE COULD BE DESCRIBED AS AN APARTMENT CITY BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE APARTMENTS THAN WE DO HOMES.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT MOST CITIES WANT TO BE KNOWN AS.

THAT'S WHAT IS A CHALLENGE FOR US TO CONSIDER APARTMENTS ANYWHERE.

OUR CITIZENS HAVE TOLD US LOUDLY AND CLEARLY, THEY DON'T WANT ANY MORE APARTMENTS ANYWHERE.

THERE ARE SOME SITES WHEN THAT'S ALL THAT REALLY CAN BE BUILT THERE, BUT THOSE ARE PRETTY WELL ABSORBED AND HAVE PRETTY WELL BEEN COMPLETED.

THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE SITES.

IT HAS BEEN ZONED FOR HOTEL CORPORATE OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND FRANKLY, WE NEED THE RETAIL, WE NEED THE SALES TAX.

THAT IS WHY IT'S A STRUGGLE BECAUSE OF THE APARTMENTS AND BECAUSE OF THOSE ISSUES, AND I JUST THOUGHT I'D TRY TO OFFER A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPLANATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. PRESENTATION WAS LOVELY.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THERE ARE SOME AREAS IN TOWN WHERE APARTMENTS DO, IN MY OPINION, MAKE SENSE.

I DON'T THINK THAT A POSITION OF NO APARTMENTS ANYWHERE IS NECESSARILY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S SAYING.

BUT THIS AREA IS ALSO SOMEWHAT LIMITED BECAUSE OF AIRPORT, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT COULD BE BUILT OUT A SINGLE FAMILY, EVEN IF WE WANTED IT TO BE.

IT'S A VERY LARGE SITE.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET COMFORTABLE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A HOTEL AS A PART OF THIS.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A REQUIREMENT.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'LL BE APPROVED TONIGHT OR NOT,

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BUT I DO THINK LOOKING AT THOSE ELEVATIONS, PARTICULARLY OF THE TOWNHOMES, AND MAKING THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE UNIQUE AND INTERESTING WOULD BE ADVISABLE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE, IT'S GOING TO JUST LOOK PRETTY COMMON ACROSS. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

>> AS YOU LOOKED AT THE LAND, HAVE YOU REALLY JUST EVALUATED IT FROM A MULTIFAMILY AND HOTEL PERSPECTIVE, OR HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY OTHER USES FOR THE NON-HOTEL PORTION?

>> WE ACTIVELY DEVELOP OFFICE INDUSTRIAL, MULTIFAMILY, AND RETAIL AND WE LOOK AT ALL USES.

I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD THIS, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSIONS IN OUR CONTRACT FOR QUITE SOME TIME ON THIS, AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO THINK OF MORE RETAIL ON THE FRONTAGE.

WE'VE LOOKED AT BIG PICTURE, I'D TELL YOU NO MATTER WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, OFFICE ONLY WORKS IF THERE'S A USER THAT WANTS YOU TO BUILD THEM A BUILDING, AND THOSE ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN I HAD TO START RECENTLY.

THERE'S ABOUT 170 FULL-FLOOR VACANCIES IN THE PLANO FRISCO AREA.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHERE THIS IS, BUT IT'S A LEVEL OF WHAT WE'RE FACING AS AN INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW.

IT'S HARD FOR OFFICE, JUST FULL STOP, NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE AND I DON'T THINK INDUSTRIAL WOULD BE PREFERRED TO USE.

WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS WITH HOTELS WITH LIMITED INTERESTS.

WE WOULD LOCK ARMS WITH OTHER GROUPS, IF THEY WERE LIKE SCOTT, WANTING TO COME HERE TONIGHT, AND SCOTT AND HIS TEAM INVESTED A GREAT DEAL OF TIME BECAUSE THEY SAW THE OPPORTUNITY, AND WE'D LOVE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO RAISE THEIR HAND.

WE STUDIED OTHER USES BUT IN OUR MINDS, IT WAS REALLY, WE KNOW THERE'S A MARKET FOR MULTI-FAMILY AND WE APPRECIATE THE SENSITIVITY.

WE LOOKED AT THE LAND USE PLAN AND THE FACT THAT IT CONTEMPLATED THIS AND WE LOOKED AT A WAY OF, HOW CAN WE MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK FOR THE SELLER AND STILL DELIVER A PRODUCT THAT WILL BE WELL RECEIVED? UNDERSTANDING YOU MIGHT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, MAYBE TAKE THE MEDICINE, OR IT'S A LITTLE PAINFUL ON THE ONE HAND, APPRECIATING SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE ON THE MULTI-FAMILY, BUT IT DOES UNLOCK SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS NOT OCCURRED.

THE MALL'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME, THE SITE SAT THERE A LONG TIME.

YES, THERE ARE PLANES FLY OVER THE TOP.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF USES THAT PEOPLE WILL JUMP UP AND DOWN, BUT YET WE ARE.

WE DO BELIEVE THERE'S DEMAND FOR HOUSING IN THE METROPLEX IN GENERAL AND IN GRAPEVINE.

THERE'S THE USES ACROSS THE STREET.

WE'RE NOT PUTTING THIS DOWN ACROSS FROM SINGLE FAMILY, WE'RE PUTTING IT DOWN.

WE'RE PROPOSING TO ACROSS THE STREET FROM MULTIFAMILY, AS WELL AS HOTEL OWNERS THAT ARE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE USE AS WELL.

ULTIMATELY HOUSING DOES FUEL FURTHER ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE REGION, WHICH WILL ATTRACT MORE HOTELS, WHICH WILL ATTRACT MORE RETAIL, BECAUSE ALL THESE PEOPLE NEED A PLACE TO LIVE, AND THIS IS GOOD HOUSING.

I KNOW AT TIMES, MULTI-FAMILY CAN HAVE A BAD STIGMA, BUT THIS IS NEW MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND THE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT CAN AFFORD TO PAY THE RENTS TO BUILD THIS SORT OF PRODUCT, IT'S VERY NICE.

RENTS ON TOWNHOMES ALONE ARE WELL OVER $3,000 A MONTH.

THIS IS NOT AN INEXPENSIVE PRODUCT.

>> DID YOU LOOK AT, LIKE, A TRUE TOWNHOME FOR OWNERSHIP PROJECT AT ALL?

>> WE DID NOT, WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT IN TERMS OF WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ECONOMICS ARE BEHIND TOWNHOMES, AND WE DIDN'T SEE A PATH TO DOING THAT AND BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE TRANSACTION WORK.

WE ALWAYS LOOK AT TOWNHOMES FOR SALE AND FOR RENT WHEN WE LOOK AT SITES BECAUSE THAT IS POTENTIALLY THE COMPETITION, AND JUST THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT.

THE ECONOMICS LOOK DIFFERENT FOR THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CAN PAY.

THERE'S ALSO A LOT LESS EXAMPLES OF SINGLE-FAMILY-FOR-SALE PRODUCT IN THIS AREA, AND POTENTIALLY IT COULD HAVE TO DO WITH THE AIRPLANES FLYING OVER THE TOP THAT PEOPLE MIGHT BE LESS INCLINED TO OWN HERE LONG TERM.

I'M GUESSING, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT THERE ISN'T GREAT COMPS IN THE AREA TO LOOK TO.

>> WE ARE SEEING SOME DEVELOPMENT IN OUR TRANSIT DISTRICT OF AN ATTACHED OWNERSHIP TYPE OF PRODUCT THAT I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY A DEMAND FOR THAT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT FEELING ABOUT APARTMENTS THAN SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, AND I'LL SHARE THIS BECAUSE I'M NOT ANTI MULTI-FAMILY, I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY A NEED FOR THAT.

NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD A HOME, NOT EVERYBODY WANTS A SINGLE A HOUSE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE PERCENTAGE OF RENTAL PROPERTIES WE HAVE, MULTI-FAMILY LIVING IN GRAPEVINE, INCLUDES A PRETTY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF OLD, OLD UNITS THAT WE WISH WEREN'T HERE ANYMORE, BUT THEY ARE.

THAT TAKES UP A KEY PIECE OF THE PERCENTAGE OF APARTMENTS WE HAVE IN THIS TOWN.

BUT THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST 10 YEARS HAVE BEEN VERY HIGH QUALITY.

THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE.

I THINK THEY MEET THE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED,

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AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF.

I AGREE THAT I THINK THE HOTEL IS KEY.

PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN GRAPEVINE, AND WE'RE PRETTY MUCH BUILT OUT, SO MULTIFAMILY CAN BE THE ANSWER.

BUT THE HOTEL WILL BE KEY TO THAT, AND PEOPLE LIKE TO LIVE WHERE THERE'S A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT AND THE AMENITIES OF THAT.

I KNOW OTHER THAN TAKING OUT A PEN AND CUTTING YOUR WRIST AND SIGNING BLOOD THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT, THERE'S NOT MUCH ELSE YOU CAN SAY.

I KNOW THAT SOUNDS TO BE YOUR FULL INTENT.

BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THAT'S A PIECE OF IT.

BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT MORE APARTMENTS, JUST STANDALONE APARTMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO ENHANCE THAT PROJECT.

>> I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT, AND IT'S WHY WE AGREED TO DERESTRICT THE OTHER PARCEL.

IT'S WHY WE SAID WE WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD IF WE DON'T SELL TO THEM, AND WE WOULD AGREE THAT THEY WOULD COMPLETE ALL THEIR CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND SUBMIT FOR PERMIT BEFORE WE COULD OBTAIN OUR PERMIT.

THEY WOULDN'T BE BUYING IN A VERY EXPENSIVE SITE.

NOT ONLY BUYING THE SITE, THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING TOWARD THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THIS SITE AND SPENDING A MILLION DOLLARS IN DRAWINGS TO BUILD WHAT SCOTT SAID ON A SITE THAT THEY'VE NEVER SOLD THE SITE AFTER THEY BOUGHT IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE COULD SAY THAT. IT'S PRETTY REMARKABLE.

>> JUST SPEAK TO THAT POINT.

NORTHLAND, WELL, WE OWN A NUMBER OF RESTAURANT CONCEPTS.

WE OWN CLOSE TO 200 RESTAURANTS.

SHOP STAKE HOUSE IS ONE OF OUR PREMIUM RESTAURANT CONCEPTS.

THE OTHER ONE THAT WE OWN IS MOXY'S RESTAURANTS.

MOXY'S RESTAURANTS, IT'S VERY WELL KNOWN WITHIN DALLAS.

WE HAVE WITH THREE LOCATIONS HERE, AND CONTINUE TO GROW HERE, AND WE REALLY DO TAP INTO A YOUTHFUL DEMOGRAPHIC THAT WE ATTRACT, AND THAT'S REALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD OF ALL OF OUR RESTAURANTS.

WE REALLY DO SEE SYNERGIES BETWEEN WHAT TRAMMELL CROW IS DOING.

TRAMMELL CROW IS AN ABSOLUTE BEST-IN-CLASS DEVELOPER ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT SPECIFICALLY WITHIN DALLAS.

I THINK THAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS YOU MIGHT HAVE WITH SOME OF THE LOOKS OF THE RENDERINGS ISN'T NECESSARILY WHAT ULTIMATELY IS GOING TO BE BUILT.

THEY'RE TOP RATED AND WE HAVE FULL BELIEF THAT YOU WILL BE PROUD OF THE PRODUCT THAT IS DEVELOPED OUT THERE.

BUT AS FAR AS THE SYNERGIES BETWEEN THE HOTEL, OR RESTAURANT, AND THE RESIDENTIAL, I THINK CERTAINLY WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE IS A YOUTHFUL DEMOGRAPHIC THAT'S LOOKING TO LOCATE CLOSE TO THESE TYPE OF AMENITIES.

THESE ARE UPWARDLY MOBILE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT AREN'T READY FOR, THEY CAN'T AFFORD HOMEOWNERSHIP, BUT THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR NEW PRODUCT, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO LIVE AN OLDER PRODUCT, AND SO THEY'RE CAUGHT, AND SO THEY HAVE TO MOVE AWAY.

HOW YOU KEEP THAT YOUTH IS BY PROVIDING NEW PRODUCT AT THAT LEVEL.

WHEN WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE ACTUALLY INTEGRATE THE HOTEL, THE RESTAURANT, WITH WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN THE BACKGROUND, WE THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS GREAT HORIZONTAL MIXED-USED ASPECTS THAT WE CAN INTEGRATE.

THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, PRELIMINARY THREE YEARS AGO, BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY IN THE LAST YEAR.

WE'D BE PROUD TO BE NEXT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND CERTAINLY PROUD TO DEVELOP THIS HOTEL WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY.

>> GRAPEVINE IS AN UNUSUAL CITY, ONLY A THIRD OF ITS LAND TAXABLE, BECAUSE OF THE AIRPORT AND THE LAKE, ALL THE GOVERNMENT, CHARITABLE, SO WE LIVE ON SALES TAX.

WE'RE ALSO AN AIRPORT CITY WITH A NOISE CONE, SO ALMOST 50% OF THE DWELLING UNITS ARE APARTMENTS, AND THAT'S VERY HEAVY.

THIS IS LAST REALLY COMMERCIAL TRACK WE HAVE LEFT, AND WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS GOING TO PRODUCE VERY LITTLE SALES TAX.

THE HOTEL, I COULD APPROVE, I COULD VOTE FOR THAT, BUT I CAN'T SEE ME VOTING FOR ANYTHING ELSE, ESPECIALLY 150 UGLY TOWNHOMES, SACRIFICE ALL THAT COMMERCIAL TRACK WITH ALMOST NO SALES TAX PRODUCE.

I CAN'T SEE MYSELF DOING THAT BECAUSE WE NEED THE SALES TAX IN THE FUTURE.

IT'S THE LAST TRACK WE HAVE LEFT THAT WE CAN GENERATE SALES TAX ON.

YOU HAVEN'T DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF THE CITY ON THAT.

YOU WANT TO BUILD SOME APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES, YOU'RE GOING TO SELL OFF THE REST.

I'M JUST STRUGGLING THAT I DON'T THINK I CAN SUPPORT ANYTHING WITH THE HOTEL.

ANYWAY, ANYBODY ELSE, QUESTION. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I HAVE ANOTHER QUERY.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR SLIDE OF THE LAYOUT, AGAIN, PLEASE,

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THE DRIVES THAT ARE BETWEEN THE TOWNHOMES ON THE PERIMETER OUT THERE, THE ONLY PARKING IS THE GARAGES, IS THAT CORRECT? [OVERLAPPING]

>> ON THE DRIVE BETWEEN THE TOWNHOMES, YES.

>> WHERE DO VISITORS PARK, FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN THE TOWNHOMES THAT AREN'T ON THE MAIN ROADWAY?

>> THERE'S A LOT OF PARALLEL SURFACE PARKING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DESIGN.

>> BUT NOT ANYTHING CLOSE TO THOSE UNITS.

>> MM-HMM.

>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW, CLOSE, IT'S RIGHT ON THE STREET SOUTH OF THOSE.

>> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THEY CAN'T SEE THEIR VEHICLE FROM THOSE UNITS?

>> I'M SORRY?

>> THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE THEIR VEHICLE FROM THOSE UNITS IF THEY'RE PARKED ON THE OTHER ROADWAYS.

I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S NOTHING CLOSE TO THE UNITS FOR ANY KIND OF VISITOR PARKING, IT'S ALL JUST IN THE GARAGE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> WELL, THE ON-STREET PARKING, I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAD THAT PARKING STUDY THAT SHOWED WHAT THE TRAFFIC WAS, AND I WOULD JUST ADD ON TO SAY WE DO HAVE ANOTHER. [OVERLAPPING]

>> YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

>> ANYTHING ELSE, MR. CHAIRMAN?

>> ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COUNSEL?

>> NO, SIR. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?

>> NO, YOUR HONOR.

>> ANY CORRESPONDENTS?

>> ALRIGHT. MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> PROPOSED. [OVERLAPPING]

>> COMMISSION CLOSED THE MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> ALL IN FAVOR?

>> CLOSE.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON CU 24-23, [NOISE] ERICA MORONI.

[4. Conditional Use Permit CU24-23 (Los Amigos) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Arturo Gutierrez requesting a conditional use permit to allow the possession, storage, retail sales of on- and off- premise consumption of alcoholic beverages (beer, wine and mixed beverages) in conjunction with an existing restaurant. The subject property is located at 202 East Northwest Highway and is currently zoned “HC”, Highway Commercial District. ]

>> THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE POSSESSION STORAGE, SALES OF ON AND OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, BEER, WINE, AND MIXED BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING RESTAURANT, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 202 EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, IN PRESENTLY ZONED HC HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

THE SUBJECT SITE WAS DEVELOPED IN 1980, AND FEATURES A SINGLE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

THE EXISTING RESTAURANT WOULD LIKE TO SELL AND STORE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR THE RESTAURANT'S CUSTOMERS.

THE RESTAURANT IS APPROXIMATELY 2,100 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE AND HAS EXISTING ACCESS ALONG EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, AND AN EXISTING 20-FOOT POLE SIGN.

THE SITE FEATURES 19 PARKING SPACES FOR PATRONS.

AS PART OF THIS REQUEST, NO OTHER CHANGES ARE PROPOSED TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING OR THE SITE LAYOUT.

IF APPROVED, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE GIVING THE SUBJECT SITE IS REQUIRED TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, TO ADDRESS A LESS THAN 10-FOOT BUILDING SEPARATION BETWEEN THE EXISTING RESTAURANT AND A STORAGE BUILDING TO ITSELF.

THIS ITEM WOULD BE HEARD BY THE BZA AT THEIR MEETING ON AUGUST 5TH OF THIS YEAR.

IF APPROVED BY THE BOARD, THEN IT WOULD MOVE FORWARD FOR A SECOND READING AT COUNCIL AND COMMISSION AT YOUR AUGUST 20TH, 2024, MEETING.

THE APPLICANT, MR. ARTURO GUTIERREZ, IS HERE THIS EVENING, AND IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION OR COUNSEL MAY HAVE TO THIS REQUEST. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ARTURO GUTIERREZ.

I'M FROM MEXICO.

I'M SORRY IF I HAVE HARD ACCENT.

I'M SORRY. [LAUGHTER].

>> DON'T BE SORRY.

>> OKAY. I AM THE OWNER OF LOS AMIGOS RESTAURANT IN GRAPEVINE.

I'VE BEEN IN GRAPEVINE FOR 28 YEARS.

I SEE A LOT OF FACES THAT HAVE BEEN IN MY RESTAURANT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR BUSINESS, BY THE WAY.

ALL THESE YEARS, WE HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS THANKS TO GRAPEVINE.

WE REALLY LOVE GRAPEVINE.

WE CHANGED OUR NAME TO LOS AMIGOS GRAPEVINE RECENTLY.

WE USED TO BE LOS AMIGOS ONLY.

BUT AFTER COVID, EVERYTHING CHANGED FOR US.

FOR SOME REASON, EVERYBODY STARTED TO ASKING FOR DRINKS.

WE USED TO HAVE BRING YOUR OWN.

EVEN WE CAN OFFER MARGARITA, ONE MARGARITA, ONE BEER, WITH YOUR MEAL FREE. WE CAN SELL IT.

PEOPLE START ASKING, WE WANT MORE THAN ONE, AND THE FEEDBACK THAT I RECEIVED FOR THE CUSTOMERS IS THAT WE WANT TO GO TO YOUR RESTAURANT, BUT WE CAN DRINK.

MAYBE ANOTHER TIME, AND WE CAN DRINK.

WE SEE OUR SALES GOING DOWN AFTER COVID.

WE NEVER ASKED FOR ALCOHOL IN 25 YEARS IN 2020.

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BUT AFTER THAT, I DECIDED THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING FOR SALES WENT DOWN, AND EVERYBODY.

WE HAVE GOOD STARS AND EVERY SIDE THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AROUND.

I'VE BEEN LOOKING EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING WRONG IN THE RESTAURANT, LIKE MAYBE BAD SERVICE, BAD FOOD, OR WHATEVER.

BUT EVERYBODY IS HAPPY, EVERY CUSTOMER SAID GOOD FOOD, GOOD FOOD, GOOD FOOD.

BUT WE SEE THE CLIENT OURSELVES AND WE SEE THAT EVERYBODY SAYS, WHAT ABOUT CORONA? WHAT ABOUT MARGARITA? WE REALLY WANT TO STAY IN GRAPEVINE, BUT OUR SALES ARE GOING TO THE POINT THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.

RIGHT NOW, WE ARE TO THE POINT THAT WE ARE NOT ONLY BREAKING EVEN, BUT WE ARE A LITTLE IN THE TOP BREAKING EVEN.

THAT'S WHAT I DECIDED TO COME TO YOU.

I KNOW THAT THE PLACE HAS BEEN THERE FOR 30, 40 YEARS, LOS AMIGOS RESTAURANT USED TO BE A 24-HOURS CAFE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO I THINK WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE PART OF GRAPEVINE.

TOO MANY YEARS IN GRAPEVINE.

I CAME TO THIS COUNTRY 30 YEARS AGO WITH THE IDEA TO BE BETTER.

I WANTED TO STUDY, AND I WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, DALLAS, AND WHEN I GOT OPPORTUNITY TO GET MY OWN BUSINESS, I JUMP AND GOT A BUSINESS 28 YEARS AGO RIGHT HERE IN GRAPEVINE.

WHEN I SAW LOS AMIGOS, I SAW A SMALL BUSINESS, SAID, WELL, WE CAN GROW, MAYBE GET ANOTHER RESTAURANT, ANOTHER PLACE, BIGGER.

BUT WHEN I START SEEING THAT PEOPLE IN GRAPEVINE, THAT EVERYBODY WAS KINDNESS AND GOOD, EVERYBODY HERE IN GRAPEVINE LOVE LOS AMIGOS AND WE LOVE THE PEOPLE IN GRAPEVINE.

THAT'S WHAT I DECIDED TO COME HERE BEFORE YOU AND TRYING TO GET A LIQUOR LICENSE TO HAVE CORONA AND MARGARITA.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE A RESTAURANT WITH A BAR, WE DON'T WANT THAT.

WE DON'T WANT TO SELL SPECIAL THINGS AND SO FORTH, WE JUST WANT TO SELL PEOPLE AND TO HAVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ONE OR TWO DRINKS.

EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT GOOD TACO, GOOD SALSA, AND GOOD CORONA, THAT'S THE IDEAL FOR A MEXICAN FOOD.

>> DON'T FORGET THE ENCHILADAS.

>> ACTUALLY, TO TELL THE TRUTH, WHEN WE OPENED 28 YEARS AGO, WE'RE SELLING A LOT OF ENCHILADAS.

THE ENCHILADAS WERE A MAIN PLATE.

BUT FOR SOME REASON, AGAIN, AFTER COVID, IT CHANGED FROM THE ENCHILADAS TO STREET TACOS.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE SELLING MORE STREET TACOS THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

[LAUGHTER] IT'S WEIRD BECAUSE WE TRIED TO INTRODUCE STREET TACOS MAYBE MORE THAN 10 YEARS AGO, 10, 15 YEARS AGO, WE DIDN'T SELL ANY.

WHY? I DON'T KNOW.

EVERYTHING IS CHANGING AND ALSO THE TASTE MAYBE IS CHANGING.

WE ARE STILL SELLING ENCHILADAS AND FAJITAS, OF COURSE, BUT WE'RE SELLING RIGHT NOW MORE STREET TACOS.

NEW CUSTOMERS COME TO OUR PLACE FROM THE BIG HOTELS, FROM GRAPEVINE, MAIN STREET, THEY COME TO GRAPEVINE TO VISIT, OF COURSE, THE CHRISTMAS AND ALL THE STUFF, AND PEOPLE COME TO A PLACE AND THEY SAY, OH, I SEE THE REVIEWS, YOU HAVE GOOD REVIEWS, JUST WANTED TO TRY SOME FAJITAS.

SIT DOWN AND CAN YOU BRING ME A CORONA? I'M SORRY, WE DON'T HAVE LIQUOR LICENSE.

OH, I'M SORRY. CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE WE CAN GET A GOOD MARGARITA? YEAH, [INAUDIBLE] IS RIGHT THERE.

[LAUGHTER] THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE ASK.

IF YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR OUR FUTURE IN THE RESTAURANT.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> YOU DON'T WANT TO SELL A SIX-PACK TO GO, YOU JUST WANT TO SERVE ALCOHOL BEVERAGES TO YOUR CUSTOMERS, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES, SIR. WE DON'T WANT TO SELL A SIX-PACK TO PEOPLE, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, WE JUST WANT TO SELL THE BEER AND MARGARITAS TO THE CUSTOMERS THAT COME TO MY RESTAURANT.

WE ARE AGREED TO GO WITH ALL THE RULES THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WITH THE SALE OF ALCOHOL.

>> THAT SHOULD HELP YOU ALL RIGHT.

>> YEAH. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> QUESTION. FINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTION?

DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?

>> NO, YOUR HONOR.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE?

>> ALL RIGHT. MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> I NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THE COMMISSION CLOSE THE MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> MOVE TO CLOSE.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON PERMIT 24-25 ERICA MAROHNIC.

[5. Conditional Use Permit CU24-25 (Winestein’s Tasting Room) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Miranda and Michael Einstein requesting a conditional use permit to allow the possession, storage, retail sale and on- and off-premise consumption of alcoholic beverages (wine only) in conjunction with a wine tasting facility. The subject property is located at 280 North Main Street and is currently zoned “CN”, Neighborhood Commercial District. ]

>> THIS REQUEST IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE POSSESSION, STORAGE, RETAIL SALE, AND ON AND OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES WINE ONLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH A WINE-TASTING FACILITY.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 280 NORTH MAIN STREET AND PRESENTLY ZONE CN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, AND IT IS WITHIN AN EXISTING MULTI-TENANT BUILDING.

THE SUBJECT SITE WAS DEVELOPED IN 1981 AS A 17,000-SQUARE-FOOT SINGLE-STORY MULTI-TENANT BUILDING.

THE PROPOSED WINE-TASTING FACILITY WOULD OCCUPY APPROXIMATELY 2,400 SQUARE FEET THAT WAS A FORMER BEAUTY SALON.

THE FLOOR PLAN WILL CONSIST OF AN OPEN-CONCEPT WINE-TASTING ROOM ADJACENT TO THE FRONT ENTRYWAY WITH A PRIVATE WINE-TASTING ROOM TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE SUITE FOR PRIVATE EVENTS.

THE SITE OFFERS TWO POINTS OF ACCESS BOTH ALONG NORTH MAIN STREET.

THE MULTI-TENANT BUILDING HAS ONE PARKING LOT WITH A TOTAL OF 86 PARKING SPACES, WHICH ARE SHARED AMONG TENANTS OCCUPYING BOTH LOTS 2R AND 3.

NO OTHER CHANGES ARE PROPOSED EXTERNAL TO THE BUILDING OR THE SITE LAYOUT WITH THIS REQUEST.

THE APPLICANT AND BUSINESS OWNERS, MIRANDA AND MICHAEL EINSTEIN, ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SEEK YOUR APPROVAL FOR WINESTEIN'S TASTING ROOM.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL EINSTEIN, THIS IS MY WIFE, MIRANDA EINSTEIN.

WE CURRENTLY RESIDE AT 4003 WHITBY LANE IN GRAPEVINE.

WE ENVISIONED WINESTEIN'S TASTING ROOM TO BE A COMMUNITY AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND AND LEARN MORE ABOUT WINE, SO WE'RE SEEKING TO HOST REGULARLY WINE-TASTING EVENTS, AS WELL AS HAVE A SPACE FOR A WINE-TASTING ROOM, AS WELL AS HAVING BOTTLES OF WINE FOR RETAIL SALE.

IDEALLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOUR EVENTS PER WEEK.

WE'VE DEVELOPED SEVERAL SIGNATURE EVENTS TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT ON A REGULAR BASIS WHERE WE HAVE THE TASTING FLIGHTS, WINES BY THE GLASS.

I REALLY WANTED TO BE AN APPROACHABLE OPPORTUNITY THAT HAVE A CASUAL ATMOSPHERE FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT WINE.

AS MENTIONED, THIS LOCATION IS LOCATED IN THE OLD MAINE SHOPPING CENTER JUST OUTSIDE OF HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.

WE REALLY SEE THIS AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO FIT INTO GRAPEVINE'S LARGER WINE CULTURE.

YOU SEE OUR MOTTO THERE, DRINK WITH WINESTEIN, FEEL LIKE A GENIUS.

BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TASTE WINES, NOT JUST FROM TEXAS, BUT FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND DIFFERENT TASTING PALETTES.

WHO ARE WE? MY EXPERIENCE, I STARTED OFF IN THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY IN THE EARLY [INAUDIBLE].

I HAVE EXPERIENCE OPENING BARS AND RESTAURANTS, TRAINING MANAGERS IN WINE EDUCATION, AS WELL AS TRAINING OTHER CUSTOMERS.

FROM THERE, I SPRINGBOARDED INTO A CAREER IN HUMAN RESOURCES WITH TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT, IT HAS NOW LED ME FULL CIRCLE BACK INTO THE RESTAURANT OR THE TASTING ROOM INDUSTRY TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO PEOPLE, TEACHING THE EDUCATION ROOMS, AS WELL AS BEING ABLE TO LEAD THE TASTING EVENTS.

I'M ORIGINALLY FROM BINGHAMTON, NEW YORK, AND I RECEIVED MY MHR FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA. MY WIFE, MIRANDA.

>> HELLO. MY NAME IS MIRANDA EINSTEIN.

I ALSO RESIDE AT 4003 WHITBY IN GRAPEVINE.

WE'VE BEEN RESIDENTS OF GRAPEVINE SINCE 2020, AND ABSOLUTELY FELL IN LOVE WITH THE CITY.

IT HELPS THAT WE REALLY LOVE WINE, AND WE DECIDED THAT BEING PART OF THE WINE CULTURE OF THE CITY WOULD BE A HUGE GOAL FOR US,

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AND BEING PART OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL.

WE'VE BEEN WELCOMED WITH OPEN ARMS BY MANY OF THE OTHER WINERIES AND WINE-FOCUSED BUSINESSES.

I'M ORIGINALLY FROM CLEVELAND, OHIO.

I'VE SPENT MY CAREER IN OPERATIONS AND PROCESS DEVELOPMENT.

I WORKED FOR SEVERAL START-UP BUSINESSES, AND I HOLD AN MPA FROM THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY.

>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT NEITHER SOUTH CAROLINA NOR THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY HAS HAD MUCH SUCCESS AGAINST ANY TEXAS FOOTBALL TEAMS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

[LAUGHTER] TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A FLAVOR OF WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING, I'VE LISTED HERE OUR TWO SIGNATURE EXPERIENCES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO OFFER ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THE FIRST, WINE FUNDAMENTALS.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WILL COME IN TO TASTE THREE DIFFERENT WHITE WINES, THREE DIFFERENT RED WINES, WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WINE IS MADE, TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT FLAVOR PROFILES AND HOW TO DETECT THOSE, AS WELL AS BASICALLY HOW TO READ A WINE LABEL, HOW TO NAVIGATE A WINE MENU AT A RESTAURANT OR EVEN THE GROCERY STORE, SO PEOPLE CAN WALK OUT WITH CONFIDENCE KNOWING WHAT IT IS THAT THEY LIKE AND BEING ABLE TO FIND WINES THAT FIT THEIR PALETTE, AS WELL AS THEIR FRIENDS PALETTES.

WE'VE ALSO DEVELOPED A BUBBLES AND BRUNCH CLASS.

WE'RE PLANNING TO OFFER THAT REGULARLY AS WELL, WHERE WE'LL BE TASTING EIGHT DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF SPARKLING WINE, CAVA, PROSECCO, AS WELL AS ACTUAL CHAMPAGNE, AND WE'LL BE PAIRING THESE WITH BRUNCH ITEMS, SO CROISSANTS, EVEN POTATO CHIPS, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SMOKED SALMONS, THINGS LIKE THAT, SO WE CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE WINES AND THOSE FLAVORS REALLY PLAY OFF OF EACH OTHER.

SOME OF THE OTHER EVENTS THAT WE LOOK TO HOST WOULD BE MORE OF AROUND CATEGORIES, SO MAYBE LIKE A BOLD RED CLASS, LOOKING AT CHARDONNAYS ALL THE WAY OR PINOT NOIR PRIMER, WHERE WE'RE TASTING DIFFERENT TYPES OF PINOT NOIR AND UNDERSTANDING THOSE DIFFERENCES OF HOW THEY COMPARE ACROSS COUNTRIES AND ACROSS DIFFERENT WINE REGIONS.

THEN LAST HERE IS THE LAST SLIDE, JUST OUR HOURS OF OPERATION.

WE'RE LOOKING TO BE CLOSED ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY.

SUNDAY, THE TASTING ROOM WOULD BE OPEN FROM 2:00-6:00, WEDNESDAY 2:00-7:00, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY 12:00-7:00, AND THEN SATURDAY 11:00-7:00.

THE TASTING EVENTS WILL BE HELD OUTSIDE OF THOSE NORMAL TASTING ROOM HOURS.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE RECEIVED OUR FEDERAL WINERY LICENSE FROM THE TTB, AND THEN PENDING YOUR DECISION TONIGHT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR OUR TABC APPROVAL TO CONTINUE WITH THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

>> ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN?

>> QUESTIONS?

>> I JUST WANT TO ASK STAFF A QUESTION IF I CAN, MS. MAROHNIC.

I KNOW WE BROUGHT THIS UP IN THE BRIEFING A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE PROPERTY WITH THIS APPLICATION WILL REQUIRE 116 PARKING SPACES, AND I THINK THE FACILITY NOW HAS 86 PARKING PLACES.

>> SO WE'RE GOING TO BE 30 SHORT, AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE HAD AN ISSUE NOT TOO MANY MONTHS AGO ABOUT THE IDEA ABOUT US NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE USES IN THESE MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS TO MAKE SURE WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE RIGHT RANGE.

I KNOW THAT IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THEIR HOURS ARE NOT FULL-BLOWN HOURS LIKE SOME OF THOSE OPERATIONS, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THESE CASES, AGAIN, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO EXCEED OUR OWN ORDINANCE IF WE ALLOW THIS TYPE OF OPERATION IN ONE OF THESE MULTI-HEADED BUSINESSES.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR TO EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ELSE [INAUDIBLE]? NO OTHER QUESTION, MR. MAYOR.

>> QUESTION FROM THE COUNCIL?

>> YOU'RE NOT PLANNING TO HAVE A KITCHEN, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BRING SOME FOOD IN, YOU'LL JUST BRING THAT IN ON A CATERING-TYPE BASIS, IS THAT IT?

>> YES, MA'AM. WE WILL HAVE A SMALL KITCHENETTE AREA.

WE WILL OFFER CHEESES, SO THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY PRE-MADE THAT WE'RE JUST CUTTING, FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES TO GO ALONG WITH THE WINES.

THERE WILL BE NO COOKING THAT TAKES PLACE ON THE PREMISES.

>> OKAY. YOU DID SAY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE PRIVATE EVENTS OUTSIDE OF THESE HOURS?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. FOR EXAMPLE, ON SUNDAY, WE SAY OUR HOURS ARE FROM 2:00-6:00, THE BUBBLES AND BRUNCH CLASS WOULD BE 12:00-2:00, AND THEN WE'D OPEN UP THE TASTING ROOM FOR THE FOUR HOURS AFTER THAT.

>> QUESTION. DURING OUR FESTIVALS AND OUR EVENTS, OBVIOUSLY, THE CHRISTMAS CAPITOL, YOUR HOURS ARE LIMITED.

ARE YOU GOING TO EXPAND THOSE OUT? ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS FOR THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS THAT COME TO OUR CITY?

>> WE WOULD LIKE TO.

WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO SEE HOW THE BUSINESS RUNS AT FIRST, AND IF WE WANT TO HIRE SOME PEOPLE TO MANDATE THAT TIME AND THAT DEMAND.

IF WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, WE WOULD CERTAINLY HIRE PEOPLE TO LOOK IN TO EXPAND THOSE HOURS TO SUPPORT THE OTHER EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

>> YOU INDICATED YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BRUNCH.

>> WITHOUT A FULL SERVICE KITCHEN, IS IT GOING TO BE BASICALLY CHARCUTERIE TYPE FOOD FOR BRUNCH AS WELL?

>> YES, MA'AM. FRESH BACON CRUST,

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KRISPY KREME DONUTS SO SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN BUY OR PURCHASE OUTSIDE, AND THEN AGAIN, THE CHARCUTERIE CHEESE AND FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES.

>> SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHO DID YOUR MARKETING, BUT I LOVE THE WAY YOU DID YOUR NAME WITH THE WINE BOTTLE AND THE WINE GLASS. THAT'S CUTE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I GIVE ALL THE CREDIT TO MY CHIEF MARKETING OFFICER.

>> WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE EINSTEIN AS A LAST NAME.

>> A WISE MAN.

[LAUGHTER].

>> YOU'RE GOING IN WHERE THE SCHOOL WAS FILLED DRIVING. [OVERLAPPING]

>> GREEN LIGHT.

>> I'M PRETTY SURE AT THE TIME THAT SHOPPING CENTER WAS BUILT, IT DID MEET THE TYPICAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS, ALTHOUGH YOUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE DIFFERENT THAN TRADITIONAL, PROBABLY RETAIL AND SO FORTH.

BUT I DO WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE DID DO MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT OWNS REDEFINED, AND WE DID ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING THERE.

I ASSUME THAT THAT PUBLIC PARKING, ERICA IS NOT COUNTED IN THE PARKING, RIGHT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> SO YOU'RE PLANNING TO COVER ALL THESE HOURS, JUST THE TWO OF YOU TO START HERE OR?

>> WOW. GOOD LUCK. [LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU. ONE THING I WILL SAY ABOUT THE PARKING.

WE'VE SPENT SEVERAL HOURS THERE ALMOST EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY.

THERE'S A YOGA STUDIO A COUPLE OF PLACES DOWN AND A YARD STORE NEXT TO US.

MOST OF THE TRAFFIC IS IN THE MORNING.

THE SIDE PARKING LOT WE HAVE ABOUT 20 SPACES.

I'VE NEVER SEEN MORE THAN THREE CARS PARKED IN THAT AREA THE ENTIRE TIME, INCLUDING OUR OWN CAR WHEN WE'RE THERE.

>> WELL, HOPEFULLY YOU WILL FILL THAT AREA UP.

>> THAT IS OUR HOPE AS WELL.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION?

>>THAT'S IT.

>> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?

>> NO, SIR, THERE ISN'T.

>> ANY CORRESPONDENCE?

>> WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> MOTION CLOSED. A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> MOTION TO CLOSE.

>> IN FAVOR. ALL OPPOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSE.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON ZONING CHANGE APPLICATIONS Z24-04,

[6. Zoning Change Application Z24-04 (736 East Northwest Highway) and Final Plat of Lots 1, 2 and 3, Block 1, Northern Hills Addition – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Tin Barn, LLC requesting to subdivide one lot into three lots and to rezone 0.429 acre from “HC”, Highway Commercial District to “R-7.5”, Single Family District for two single-family dwellings. The applicant is also requesting to replat Lot 1, Block 1, Western Sizzlin’ Steak House to create one commercial lot and two single family residential lots. ]

AND THE FINAL PLAT OF LOTS 1, 2, AND 3 BLOCK 1 FOR THE NORTH HILLS ADDITION.

ERICA MAROHNIC.

>> THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A ZONE CHANGE ON APPROXIMATELY 0.4 ACRE FROM THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO R-7.5 SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT TO DEVELOP TWO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN ADDRESS AS 736 EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AND IS PROPOSED TO BE PLATTED AS BLOCK 1 LOTS 1, 2, AND 3 NORTHERN HILLS ADDITION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS A DOUBLE FRONTAGE LOT WITH BOTH FRONTAGE ON EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AND EAST WALL STREET.

THIS IS AN EXISTING LOT, AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 0.9 ACRE.

THE PURPOSE OF THE REZONE IS TO ZONE THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE EXISTING LOT TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF TWO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOTS, AND THE NORTHERN LOT WOULD REMAIN FOR FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL USES IN ZONED HC HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL.

THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL LOTS WOULD TAKE ACCESS OFF OF WEST WALL STREET AND HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL LOT WITH THE FRONTAGE ON NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, WOULD TAKE ACCESS ONCE IT'S DEVELOPED FROM NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

THIS INCLUDES STEPH'S PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT, MR. NEIL COOPER IS HERE THIS EVENING AND HE'S AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSIONER OR COUNCIL MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> HELLO, AGAIN, MY NAME IS NEIL COOPER.

I LIVE AT 404 EAST WALL STREET.

JUST VERY QUICKLY, AGAIN, THIS LOT WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED WITH THE SOUTHERN SECTION AS TWO RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

THROUGH TIME, IT WAS CONVERTED TO A HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL.

I THINK YOU MAY KNOW IT FEW YEARS AGO AS THE WESTERN SIZZLIN LOT.

THIS IS PART OF OUR PROCESS HERE TO BRING BACK RESIDENTIAL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WALL STREET ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND BRING SOME CONTINUITY TO IT.

THIS IS A BIG BREAK IN THAT, AND THIS WILL REALLY HELP THAT OUT.

THAT'S OUR GOAL HERE IS TO BRING A COUPLE MORE RESIDENTIAL LOTS IN THAT AREA AND GET SOME NICE CONTINUITY ACROSS WALL STREET.

>> ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN?

>> QUESTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> DO WE HAVE ANYONE REASON TO SPEAK?

>> ANY CORRESPONDENCE?

>> WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> MOTION CLOSE.

>> [NOISE] SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR. UNOPPOSED.

>> THE COMMISSION CLOSED A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL. MOVE TO CLOSE.

>> MOVE TO CLOSE. SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR. ALL OPPOSE. MOTION CARRIES.

DOES ANYBODY NEED A BREAK BEFORE WE GO TO THE LAST? MR. CHAIRMAN, ARE YOU-ALL ALL RIGHT?

>> SURE.

>> WE HAVE ONE MORE PUBLIC HEARING. ITEM 7.

[7. Zoning Change Application Z24-05, Concept Plan CP24-01 (Grapevine Springs) and Final Plat of Lots 1-5 and 6X, Block 1, Lots 1-12 and 13X, Block 2 and Lots 1-4, 5X, Grapevine Springs and Lot 1R, Block 1R Grapevine Office Park – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by H Creek Development, LLC requesting to to rezone 11.3 acres from “CC”, Community Commercial District and “PO”, Professional Office District to “R-7.5” Single Family District and “R-12.5”, Single Family District for 21 single-family dwellings. The applicant is also requesting to replat Lot 1, Block 1, Grapevine Office Park. The subject property is located at 1600 West Northwest Highway.]

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON ZONING CHANGE Z24-5 CONCEPT PLAN CP 24-1.

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FINAL PLATS OF LOT 1-5 6X, BLOCK 1, LOTS 1-12 AND 13X.

BLOCKS 2 AND LOTS 1- 4 5X, GRAPEVINE SPRINGS, AND LOT 1R, BLOCK 1R, GRAPEVINE OFFICE PARK. ERICA MAROHNIC.

>> THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 11.2 ACRES FROM THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE DISTRICT AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO THE R-7.5 SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AND R-12.5 SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT 1600 WEST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

IT IS THE APPLICANT'S INTENT TO REZONE THE SUBJECT SITE AND DEVELOP 21 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS AROUND A 3.5 ACRE CENTRAL OPEN SPACE LOT IN INTERNAL PUBLIC RING ROAD.

SIXTEEN RESIDENTIAL LOTS ARE PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED AT R-7.5 SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT STANDARDS, WHILE FIVE ARE PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED TO THE R-12.5 SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT LOTS STANDARDS.

THESE ARE LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE SITE'S WESTERN PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO MANOR OAKS ADDITION, WHICH IS A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.

ACCESS TO THIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS THROUGH EXISTING PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL OFFICES TO THE SOUTH, TAKING ACCESS FROM EXISTING DRIVEWAYS ALONG WEST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

THERE'S ALSO SHARED ACCESS AMONGST THOSE EXISTING LOTS.

THE LOTS WITHIN THIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION WILL BE ON A PUBLIC STREET.

IT WILL BE A 50 FOOT WIDE RIGHT OF WAY WITH 31 FEET OF PAVEMENT BACK OF CURB TO BACK OF CURB.

THE DENSITY ACROSS THE SITE OF THE 11.2 ACRES IS APPROXIMATELY 1.86 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

ALL BLOCKED DIMENSIONAL AND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL LOTS WILL MEET AND BE CONSISTENT WITH BASE DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS.

ALL RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES WILL ALSO BE DESIGNED WITH FRONT ENTRY GARAGES AND TYPICALLY BE TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT.

THIS CONCLUDES CHARLES' PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT, MR. EASON MAYKUS IS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> THE MIC IS ON.

>> I APOLOGIZE. WE NEED TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK, PLEASE.

>> WE NEED A BREAK, MAYOR. THEY DON'T HAVE THE PRESENTATION READY.

>> LET'S TAKE A QUICK BREAK.

>> WE NEED A BRIEF BREAK.

>> WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AND BE RIGHT BACK.

EVERYBODY TAKE THEIR SEAT.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET STARTED.

IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.

IT'S GOING TO BE LONGER. WE'RE BACK IN ORDER NOW.

MR. MAYKUS, YOU CAN START YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR TATE AND COUNCIL, CHAIRMAN OLIVER AND COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS EASON MAYKUS WITH HAT CREEK DEVELOPMENT.

OUR OFFICE IS LOCATED AT 604 EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY HERE IN GRAPEVINE.

EVEN MORE SO AS WE SPEAK, JUST THANK YOU TO CITY STAFF.

WORKING THROUGH THE COMPLEXITIES OF THIS AND THE COMPLEXITIES OF THIS BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY, I'M GOING TO BE SPEAKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

THIS EVENING, I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING GRAPEVINE SPRINGS, SIGNIFICANTLY UPGRADED AND UPDATED FROM LAST YEAR.

GRAPEVINE SPRINGS IS 11.25 ACRES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

THERE'S NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AND DOVE ROAD.

FROM THESE ARROWS, YOU CAN SEE THE ACCESS POINTS TO THE SITE.

CURRENTLY, IT'S ZONE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, WHICH HAS BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT THIS EVENING AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.

WITH THESE ZONING CATEGORIES, THE TREE PRESERVATION IS AN AFTERTHOUGHT WITH 80% OF THE TREE COVER POTENTIALLY BEING LOST.

YOU WILL SEE WITH OUR PREVIOUS SUBMITTAL, THIS IS A HYPOTHETICAL COMMERCIAL LAYOUT WHICH HAS BEEN PRESENTED IN THE PAST, AND THIS IS OUR PREVIOUS DESIGN THAT WAS PRESENTED IN 2023.

WITH THIS PLAN, WHICH IS NOT THE CURRENT PLAN, 50% OF THE TREES WOULD BE SAVED.

WITH OUR NEWEST PROPOSAL, AN ADDITIONAL 5% WILL BE SAVED, AND 55% OF THE CANOPY WILL BE SAVED.

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FOCUSING ON LOT, QUANTITY, AND THE LARGER ZONING CATEGORIES ALLOWED THIS 5% CHANGE.

I WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP IN THIS SLIDE, WHICH IS JUST A GOOD VISUAL REFERENCE FOR P&Z AND COUNCIL.

THERE'S BEEN PREVIOUS LETTERS AND CONCERNS ABOUT OUR TILLERY COMMONS PROJECT, AND WHICH IS ACTUALLY SEEN ON THIS SLIDE TO THE EAST.

THIS IS TO SCALE.

FOR REFERENCE, IT JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH LARGER THE 75 DESIGNATION AND THE 125 DESIGNATION WILL BE IN COMPARISON TO TILLERY COMMONS.

SO I WANTED TO USE THAT AS A VISUAL AID, AND I CAN GO BACK TO IT.

FOUR GUIDELINES FROM NOVEMBER WERE REALLY HAMMERED HOME TO ME, AND THEN ALSO IN SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS AS TRYING TO FIND A PATHWAY TO GET THIS PROJECT GOING.

PUBLIC STREETS CURB AND GUTTER, WAS NUMBER 1, BIGGER LOTS, WAS NUMBER 2, NOT COOKIE-CUTTER HOMES, WAS NUMBER 3, AND THEN I DID HEAR THAT RESIDENTIAL WAS A BETTER USE AND A BETTER FIT THAN COMMERCIAL.

SO WITH PUBLIC STREET AND CURB AND GUTTER, THIS IS CURB AND GUTTER 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

WHEN IT COMES TO BIGGER LOTS, WE INCREASED THE LOT SIZE, REDUCING THE OVERALL LOT COUNT BY 11 LOTS FROM 32 TO 21.

THESE LARGER SPACES BETWEEN OUR HOMES, REAR SETBACKS, THE NEIGHBORS ON THE PERIMETER, AND ALSO WITHIN THE GRAPEVINE SPRINGS COMMUNITY ITSELF, ADDS TO THAT 5% GAIN AND TREE CANOPY THAT WE'LL SAVE.

NOT COOKIE-CUTTER HOMES.

YOU WILL SEE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF HOMES AND COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE RECENTLY COMPLETED IN AND AROUND GRAPEVINE.

THESE WILL SHOW THE SCALE OF THE LOTS, THE CUSTOM FEATURES, THE SETBACKS, THE ARCHITECTURE, WITH LARGE PERCENTAGES OF MASONRY, NOT COOKIE-CUTTER, AND CERTAINLY NOT CLOSE TO TILLERY COMMONS FROM A COMMUNITY IN STYLE SHAPE OR SIZE.

RESIDENTIAL IS A BETTER FIT THAN COMMERCIAL.

THIS SITE IN 1984 WAS CHANGED FROM RESIDENTIAL TO PROFESSIONAL OFFICE ZONING.

PRIOR TO THIS, IT WAS RESIDENTIAL LIKE MENTIONED.

SINCE THIS TIME, THREE REQUESTS HAVE BEEN GRANTED, CHANGING FROM ONE COMMERCIAL USE TO ANOTHER.

SINCE 2003, THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE DESIGNATION AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DESIGNATIONS HAVE STAYED LEAVING IT UNDEVELOPED AND STAGNANT.

FOR OVER 21 YEARS, THIS PROPERTY HAS SAT.

RESIDENTIAL IS A BETTER FIT THAN COMMERCIAL.

THIS SENTIMENT WAS SAID AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING BY MARY TATE AND COUNCIL AND SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATIONS INDIVIDUALLY AS I WAS TRYING TO FIND A PATH TO SUCCESS.

ALTHOUGH IT WAS DENIED, IT WAS CLEAR AND CONCISE THAT THIS TRACT OF LAND WAS SUITABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL OVER AND ABOVE OFFICE SPACE.

IF THE CURRENT ZONING WAS APPROPRIATE AND DESIRED WITHIN THOSE 21 PLUS YEARS, AN OFFICE COMPLEX IN GRAPEVINE, TEXAS CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED.

THE RECENT FOCUS BY GRAPEVINE LEADERSHIP IS WISE.

CONSIDERING COMMERCIAL TRACKS WHICH HAVE SET STAGNANT FOR DECADES TO BE CONSIDERED FOR NEW HOMES, AND RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES IS A GOOD MOVE.

OUR NEW PLAN CONSISTING OF STRAIGHT, R-12.5 AND R-7.5 HAS NO VARIANCES.

LARGER SETBACKS, AND LIKE MENTIONED BEFORE, A REDUCTION OF 11 LOTS FROM THE PREVIOUS PROPOSED COMMUNITY.

THE COMMON AREA IN GRAPEVINE SPRINGS IS 4.2 ACRES OR 37% OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS WILL BE AND WILL INCLUDE A TREE LINED CREEK, ROCK OUTCROPPINGS.

WITH THE CREEK REMOVED, WHICH DOES GET BROUGHT UP OCCASIONALLY, 1.4 ACRES IS REMOVED AND LEAVING AN OPEN SPACE EXCEEDING A FULL THREE ACRES OF COMMON AREA FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORS TO ENJOY.

SIXTEEN OF THE GRAPEVINE SPRINGS LOTS.

THIS IS WHERE THE PRESENTATION GETS A LITTLE ODD HERE, BUT THIS IS JUST A PHOTO OF THE SITE SHRUNK DOWN.

BUT I THINK EVEN WITH THE SMALL SCALE, YOU CAN SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL THIS SITE IS AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT CREEK AND THOSE TREES ARE TO THE FUTURE 21 HOMEOWNERS THAT WILL BE ON THIS PROPERTY.

SIXTEEN OF THE 21 LOTS WILL BE THE R-7.5 ZONING IN THESE DOTTED RED LINES.

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ALL OF THESE EXCEED THE MINIMUM OF THE R-7.5.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE R-7.5 LOTS IS BIGGER THAN THE R-7.5.

FIVE OF THESE LOTS REPRESENTED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY ARE THE R-12.5 DESIGNATION.

A COMMITMENT WAS MADE BY ME TO THE NEIGHBORS ON THE WEST, THAT WE WOULD REPLACE THEIR OLD BROKEN WOODEN FENCE WITH A NEW EIGHT FOOT WOODEN ONE.

ALSO, THEY ARE NOT HERE, BUT I TOLD THEM I WOULD ENTER THIS INTO MY PRESENTATION THAT A COMMITMENT WAS MADE ON THE WEST SIDE THAT WE WOULD ELIMINATE SECOND STORY WINDOWS.

THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IN GRAPEVINE SPRINGS WOULD BE 9,435 SQUARE FEET WITH THE SMALLEST LOT IN THIS NEW COMMUNITY BEING 7,888 SQUARE FEET.

ANOTHER COMMITMENT, WHICH THIS IS GETTING A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER HERE, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

THIS IS OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN.

ANOTHER COMMITMENT SELF IMPOSED IS WE WOULD PLANT TWO FRONT YARD OR STREET TREES IN THE FRONT OF EVERY SINGLE HOME IN GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

>> THIS IS THE SITE OF A MONUMENT, WHICH IS TINY NOW, BUT THIS IS BIG. [LAUGHTER]

>> AN ACTUAL SIZE?

>> THE GUY IS REALLY SKINNY NOW, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE HEIGHT.

PHOTOS AND EXAMPLES OF HOMES RECENTLY COMPLETED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE WHAT I'M GOING TO BRING UP HERE PRETTY SOON.

LAST TIME I HAD BROUGHT SOME 3D RENDERINGS AND SOME HOUSES THAT WE DESIRED TO BUILD IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AN R5 AND AN R7.5 ZONING THAT DIDN'T GO OVER TOO WELL.

WHAT I'M GOING TO BE SHOWING YOU ARE HOMES THAT WE HAVE BUILT IN COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED IN GRAPEVINE AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS THAT ARE ALL RECENTLY COMPLETED, EXCEPT MAYBE ONE OR TWO.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A HOME, AND THE LABEL WENT AWAY, BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT THIS WOULD BE ON THE R12.5.

THIS WAS A CUSTOM HOME BUILT FOR A CARDIOLOGIST.

THIS IS THE THINGS THAT HE PICKED OUT, BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE AND A SCALE AND THE MASSING OF WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE ON THOSE R12.5 LOTS.

>> EASON, IS THAT EIFS, IS IT STUCCO?

>> THAT'S ACTUALLY PAINTED BRICK, SO THAT'S 100% MASONRY. [OVERLAPPING]

>> PAINTED BRICK. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD QUESTION. IT DOES LOOK LIKE EIFS OR STUCCO.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE SOME STUCCO COMPONENTS ON SOME OF THESE HOUSES, BUT NOT FULL STUCCO.

>> AGAIN, THIS WAS SELECTED BY A TRANSPLANT FROM LAS VEGAS.

HE WANTED TO PAINT THE BRICK WHITE.

THIS IS 100% MASONRY HOUSE WITH STANDING SEAM METAL SHED ROOFS.

YOU CAN SEE THE MASSING.

THIS IS ALSO AN EXAMPLE OF A HOUSE ON THAT 12.5.

SAME THING. THIS DOES HAVE STUCCO.

A RECENTLY COMPLETED HOUSE IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY.

THIS IS OFF DAVIES, WOULD ALSO FIT ON THOSE LOTS.

NOW WE'LL MOVE INTO SAME THING HERE.

HERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A TRADITIONAL LOOK, SOME GABLES.

SOME THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT WOULD FIT REALLY NICELY IN THESE TREES, AND HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A COTTAGEY FEEL FROM THE STREETSCAPE.

NOW, THIS IS A HOME RECENTLY COMPLETED AND PURCHASED IN GRAPEVINE FROM SOME TRANSPLANTS FROM AUSTIN, TEXAS.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A HOME THAT WOULD FIT ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE 7.5 LOTS.

THIS IS A YOUNG COUPLE THAT IS ABOUT TO WELCOME THEIR SECOND CHILD IN PECAN RIDGE, NORTH ON DOOLEY IN GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.

THIS IS IN THAT SAME COMMUNITY.

THIS IS IN PECAN RIDGE, AN EXAMPLE OF AN R7.5 HOME.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HARDIEPLANK, BUT THAT IS ALL BRICK.

THIS IS A GATED HOME IN A COMMUNITY THAT WE DID IN KELLER, ACTUALLY, BUT SHOWS THE MASONRY, TWO SEPARATE FRONT ENTRY GARAGES.

MUCH MORE TRADITIONAL, BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN GET THE PICTURE OF A HOME THAT WOULD BE FITTING FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

THIS IS A STREETSCAPE OF PECAN RIDGE.

ANOTHER HOME IN KELLER THAT, AGAIN, THE COTTAGE LOOK.

IT'S GOT SOME NICE WINDOWS THAT LOOKS REALLY NICE IN GRAPEVINE, AND JUST ONE THAT I THINK WOULD FIT REALLY WELL IN GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

IF SOMEBODY WASN'T TO BUILD THIS, THIS MIGHT BE A HOME THAT WE WOULD PLAN ON BUILDING OURSELVES.

OUR COMMITMENT IS TO DO BUSINESS IN GRAPEVINE, IMPROVE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH 21 NEW FAMILIES,

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AND PROVIDE QUALITY HOMES IN A QUALITY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR FAVORABLE VOTE ON GRAPEVINE SPRINGS, AND WILL STAND BY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, QUESTIONS FOR MR. MICHAELS.

>> MY MAIN QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR STAFF OR FOR EASON WOULD BE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS.

CORRECT. TYING INTO EASEMENTS.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT? I KNOW THAT YOU DO HAVE PUBLIC EASEMENT THAT YOU'RE TYING INTO ON ONE, BUT THE OTHER ONE ISN'T TECHNICALLY A PUBLIC EASEMENT.

IT'S CONSIDERED AN ACCESS.

>> THE REASON THAT WE HAD THE PD OVERLAY ON THE LAST SUBMITTAL PRIVATE OR PUBLIC STREETS WAS BECAUSE OF THAT.

WITH STAFF OVERCOME THE CHALLENGES OF TYING THROUGH THAT PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT, AND ONCE THIS HOPEFULLY IS RE-PLATTED, THE OFFICES IN THE FRONT WILL BE PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENTS THAT WILL PROVIDE ACCESS FROM OUR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

>> I GUESS I NEED A LITTLE MORE EXPLANATION ON WHO'S GOING TO BUILD THE HOMES.

ARE EACH OF THOSE CUSTOM? IS YOUR COMPANY GOING TO BUILD THEM?

>> GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T WANT TO TALK ECONOMICS, BUT SINCE THIS IS ABOUT OUR THIRD RENDITION, THE LOTS HAVE BECOME SUBSTANTIALLY MORE EXPENSIVE.

I FULLY INTEND TO AT LEAST BUILD A THIRD OF THESE.

I WOULD LOVE TO BUILD EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE.

I BELIEVE THAT LOCAL CUSTOM BUILDERS THAT BUILD IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SHOWN, EVEN THOUGH WE BUILT ALL FOUR OF THOSE, THOSE ARE IN COMMUNITIES THAT THE BUILDERS THAT I WOULD BE COURTING AND TALKING TO ABOUT POTENTIALLY, THESE WOULD BE LOCAL, NOT NATIONAL, OR EVEN REGIONAL BUILDERS, THESE WOULD ALL BE BUILDERS THAT WOULD COMPLIMENT OUR PRODUCT, FOLLOW OUR GUIDELINES.

WE WOULD MAINTAIN 100% ARCHITECTURAL CONTROLS TO MAKE THESE HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS UNTIL THE LAST HOUSE IS DONE.

THESE WILL BE CUSTOM HOMES, AT LEAST SEVEN, MAYBE 14, WOULD HOPEFULLY BE BUILT BY MAYKUS, BUT I CAN SEE A VARIATION OF THREE LOCAL CUSTOM BUILDERS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

>> I'VE GOT A QUESTION. WHAT TYPE OF FENCING DO YOU HAVE GOT, YOU'VE GOT THE PUBLIC ROAD THAT'S GOING ALL THE WAY AROUND, AND THEN WHAT'S ON THE OUTSIDE OF THAT FENCING?

>> TO THE NORTH, THERE IS A WOOD FENCE.

IT'S ACTUALLY NOT IN TERRIBLE SHAPE.

THERE IS SOME GRAFFITI ON IT, BUT THE FENCE ITSELF IS NOT IN TERRIBLE SHAPE.

THE FENCE TO THE WEST IS THE FENCE THAT I WOULD COMMIT TO REPLACE WITH A BRAND NEW EIGHT FOOT BOARD ON BOARD, TOP CAP, TRIM, MOW STRIP.

TO THE EAST IS ACTUALLY A POND AND OPEN SPACE, SO WE DON'T INTEND TO BLOCK THAT OFF.

I DON'T INTEND TO BLOCK THAT OFF.

IT WOULD JUST STAY AS IS.

THEN OUR LOTS THAT ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THERE IS AN EXISTING RETAINING WALL, AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE WOULD PROBABLY PUT A WOOD FENCE BECAUSE THERE IS PARKING AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE THERE AS WELL.

>> YOUR LAST TIME HERE, YOU HAD A LARGE RETAINING WALL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPOSED SCOTTY DRIVE.

DO YOU STILL HAVE THAT LARGE RETAINING WALL?

>> I HAVE THE EXACT SAME RETAINING WALL. YES, SIR.

THAT WAS IN THAT 3D GRAPHIC THAT I THINK WAS KIND OF CONFUSING WITH THE PRIVATE STREETS.

MY CIVIL ENGINEER IS HERE, BUT IT'S GOING TO VARY FROM ROUGHLY 7.5 FEET TAPERING AND FEATHERING DOWN FROM, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN POINT WITH THIS, LOT 6 AND 7 ON THE NORTH SIDE IS WHERE THAT WALL CRESTS AT ITS HIGHEST POINT.

IT TAPERS TO THE EAST, AND THEN IT TAPERS DOWN TO ALMOST NOTHING, BUT PROBABLY A COUPLE FEET TO THE WEST, BUT THAT'S THE HIGH PART, AND THEN OUR ROAD WOULD SIT BELOW THAT.

>> IT'LL RUN THE LENGTH OF LOTS 1 THROUGH 10?

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S THE QUESTION.

>> CHAIRMAN JOHNSON, I WANT TO JUST MAKE CLEAR, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD, SO I JUST I DIDN'T KNOW IF I EXPLAINED THAT.

>> YEAH. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> HELP ME UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT.

OBVIOUSLY, THE PEOPLE TO THE NORTH ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE LEAST HAPPY ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT, SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THE WOOD FENCE, AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THE OTHER WALL.

WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT TO ME?

>> THE WOOD FENCE WOULD STAY AS IS WHERE IT IS.

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>> RIGHT.

>> TO PREP THIS SITE, THAT NORTHERN SECTION WHERE OUR LOTS WOULD BE WHERE WE'RE PLAN ON BUILDING THOSE HOUSES WOULD BE BENCHED.

WE WOULD EXCAVATE DOWN AND HAVE THE ROAD AND THE PAD BUILT BELOW THAT FENCE LINE.

I HAVE A GRAPHIC THAT MAY BE HELPFUL TO SEE.

THIS WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF A HOME.

THIS VISUAL MAY HELP, BUT THE HOME THAT IS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS REPRESENTATIVE AND IS TO SCALE FROM THE SETBACK FROM THAT RETAINING WALL.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT RETAINING WALL THAT'S JUST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE EXISTING FENCE TO OUR NORTH ON THIS DIAGRAM, THAT RETAINING WALL WILL BE CLOSER TO THAT NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.

THE RETAINING WALL IS NOT JUST GOING TO BE STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN FLOATING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SPACE.

IT WILL BE CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINE ON OUR PROPERTY, IT WILL START ON OUR PROPERTY LINE AND END ON OUR PROPERTY LINE.

IT WILL START ON OUR PROPERTY AND END ON OUR PROPERTY AS WELL, BUT WITHIN THE INSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY LINE, THEREFORE DISTURBING THAT EXISTING WOOD FENCE.

DURING CONSTRUCTION OR QUITE FRANKLY, IF A NEIGHBOR'S FENCE DIDN'T LOOK GOOD, WE WOULD ASK FOR PERMISSION TO REPLACE IT AND SEE IF THEY WOULD WORK WITH US IN PUTTING A NEW FENCE THERE.

>> THERE'S A GAP BETWEEN THE WOOD FENCE AND THE NEW RETAINING WALL?

>> YES. DARLENE, COUNCILWOMAN. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S OKAY. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'M SORRY. IT'S NOT FEET.

IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A NARROW STRIP. YES, MA'AM.

>> THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE NOT GOING TO PUT SECOND STORY WINDOWS FACING THE WEST ON THE WEST SIDE.

OBVIOUSLY, THE NORTH SIDE HAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WINDOWS AS WELL BECAUSE YOUR FRONT OF YOUR HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THEIR BACK YARD.

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT OR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO THINK ABOUT DOING FOR THAT?

>> YES, MA'AM. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I PUT THIS DIAGRAM TOGETHER.

WAS NOT EVEN FOR THE RETAINING WALL WAS JUST.

>> BECAUSE IT WAS DROP DOWN?

>> YES. THE THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT DIAGRAM ARE ALL REPRESENTATIVE OF SIX-FOOT TALL HUMAN BEINGS.

WE MAXIMIZED OUR HOUSE ON OUR SIDE TO BE A TWO-STORY FRONT MASSING HOME.

THE FRONTS OF THOSE HOMES, YES, THEY WILL HAVE WINDOWS ON THE SECOND STORY.

I'LL BE 105 FEET FROM THEIR BACK PATIOS TO THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

I WOULD ALSO SAY, THAT THE WAY OUR ARCHITECTS AND I DESIGN THESE HOUSES.

A LOT OF TIMES THERE MAY BE A FLEX ROOM UPSTAIRS FOR YOUNG KIDDOS, BUT WITH WHAT'S BEHIND THESE HOUSES, YOU WOULD BE CRAZY TO LOOK OUT THE FRONT AND NOT THE REAR WINDOWS BECAUSE THE CREEK WILL BE ON THE BACK SIDE.

ALL OUR FINISTRATION, DOORS AND WINDOWS WILL BE GEARED TOWARDS THE REAR OF THESE HOUSES.

>> THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RELATIVE TO WHAT THE HOUSES ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, THE WINDOWS AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE THAT TIED TO ANY OTHER BUILDER THAT WOULD COME AND LOOK TO BUILD?

>> 100%. EVERYTHING THAT I COMMIT TO, IF WE WERE TO ALLOW OR SELL ANOTHER LOT TO ANOTHER LOCAL CUSTOM BUILDER THAT'S BUILT IN GRAPEVINE ALSO WOULD LIKELY HAVE BUILT IN A COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE BUILT IN GRAPEVINE, OR SOUTH LAKE, OR SURROUNDING AREAS, THEY WOULD 100% HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES.

THAT WOULD BE EXPLICITLY CLEAR.

I ALSO WOULD BE ON PUBLIC RECORD, I'M SAYING IT RIGHT NOW.

>> THE COMMON SPACE WHERE THE CREEK IS, DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY ACRES THAT IS?

>> 1.13, I THINK.

>> 1.13 ACRES. BECAUSE I COULDN'T TELL ON HERE.

>> THROUGH THE FLOODPLAIN? [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S BIGGER THAN THAT, I THINK, ISN'T IT CURTIS?

>> HE'S JUST QUOTING THE ACTUAL DRAINAGE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> 4.3. [OVERLAPPING]

>> TALKING ABOUT UNDEVELOPED PART.

THE WHOLE THING'S ABOUT 10 SOMETHING ACRES.

IT'S GOT TO BE THREE OR FOUR ACRES, ISN'T IT? [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. THE THE WHOLE OPEN SPACE?

>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S 3.14.

>> OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. THANK YOU.

>> I'M SORRY. IT'S ACTUALLY FOUR ACRES.

TAKING THE FLOODPLAIN OUT LEAVES OVER THREE ACRES, I THINK 3.04.

THE ENTIRE OPEN SPACE IS 4.47-ISH.

>> THE LIGHT GREEN ON THAT CHART WAS THE THREE, AND THEN THE DARKER GREEN IS THE 1.14?

>> WELL, I HAVE TO SAY, I'M VERY IMPRESSED THAT WE ADDRESSED SO MANY OF THE ISSUES LAST TIME.

>> GOT IT.

WHEN YOU WERE HERE BEFORE, UNFORTUNATELY, FOR YOU, IT WAS JUST RIDDLED WITH CONCERNS FROM NOT JUST THE COUNCIL,

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BUT THE NEIGHBORS AND ALL OF THAT.

TO GO BACK AND MAKE THE CHANGES THAT YOU'VE MADE, OBVIOUSLY, GOING FROM 32 LOTS TO 21 IS A SIGNIFICANT HIT ON YOUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

THAT TELLS ME THAT THE INTEGRITY OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS CERTAINLY THERE.

I LIKE THE FACT THAT EVEN AFTER THE CHANGES, AND I DIDN'T LIKE TO MAKE CHANGES, BUT SAVING EVEN MORE TREES, I THINK, IS A HUGE PLUS.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I KNOW THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE SOME NEIGHBOR CONCERNS.

IF YOU HAD A CHOICE OF HAVING WOODS BEHIND YOU AND NO HOUSES, YOU'D CHOOSE THAT.

BUT THEN YOU NEED TO BUY THE PROPERTY.

YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT AT SOME POINT IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.

I DO THINK RESIDENTIAL IS A MUCH BETTER CHOICE THAN COMMERCIAL.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE PAID ATTENTION TO THE CONCERNS NOT JUST OF THE NEIGHBORS, BUT OF THE COUNCIL THAT YOU WENT BACK AND MADE ALL THOSE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.

IT'S A MUCH BETTER PRESENTATION, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> I WOULD AGREE WITH DUFF THERE THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU INCORPORATING THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU RECEIVED AND I THINK WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A BETTER PRODUCT.

WE CLEARLY HAVE A NEED FOR RESIDENTIAL IN THE COMMUNITY, MORE SO THAN PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AT THIS POINT, AND HAVING REARRANGED THINGS WHERE YOU HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL DISTANCE FROM THOSE HOUSES ALONG SCOTTY DRIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH, I THINK REALLY ALLEVIATES A LOT OF THE ISSUES WITH POTENTIAL NOISE AND LIGHT ISSUES THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

I THINK YOU END UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S STILL A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND STRIKES THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN DEVELOPING SOMETHING THAT IS A CREATIVE TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE CITY AND IS JUST A REALLY NICE LOOKING DEVELOPMENT WITH THE WAY YOU HAVE IT LAID OUT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN?

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? THANK YOU, MR. MARCUS.

DO WE HAVE ANY PEOPLE WISHING TO SPEAK?

>> YES, SIR, I HAVE TWO.

>> TWO?

>> YOU HAVE CORRESPONDENCE?

>> YES, SIR, WE DO HAVE THAT.

WE HAVE 28 TOTAL RESPONSES, AND THERE IS OPPOSITION OF, ERICA, CORRECT ME IF I'M GETTING THIS WRONG, 38.22% OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE OFFICIALLY SUBMITTED.

>> YES. WE HAVE 38% OF THE LAND AREA WITHIN THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY AND OPPOSITION, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE.

>> BEFORE WE HEAR THOSE, I WANT TO SAY THAT I MET WITH MR. MARCUS AFTER THE LAST HEARING.

HE SAID HE HAD A BAR THAT WOULD BUILD OFFICE THERE IF THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE WANTED IN THE CITY.

I ASKED HIM NOT TO DO THAT.

I THOUGHT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A LOT BETTER OFF WITH SINGLE FAMILY.

IT SAVES MORE TREES.

IT'S MORE COMPATIBLE.

IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MR. MARCUS HAS WORKED WITH THE STAFF, OVERCOME THE MAIN ISSUES THAT THE P&Z AND THE COUNCIL HAD, THAT WAS THE PUBLIC STREETS AND TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF LOTS.

THE SUBDIVISION IS NICE AS ANY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND SO I WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE MR. MARCUS WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CITY AND THE STAFF TRYING TO COME TO A RESOLUTION.

I CAN UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS THE TREES TO STAND IN AND NOT TO BE UNDEVELOPED.

WE CAME WITHIN TWO VOTES FROM THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE TO TAKE THE POWER OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO EVEN CONSIDER THAT NO MATTER AWAY, ZONING POWER AWAY.

THE NEXT LEGISLATURE MAY DO THAT.

WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO BE FAIR.

THE PUBLIC OPINION IN THIS STATE IS THAT A PERSON SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY AND USE THEIR PROPERTY AS THEY SEE FIT.

THAT WOULD BE CHAOS, IN MY OPINION.

YOU HAVE TO COME TO SOME CONCLUSION, WORK TOGETHER LIKE WE HAVE ON THIS PROJECT.

BUT THIS IS A WAY THAT WE IMPROVE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY BY WORKING TOGETHER.

WE'VE DONE WHAT WE CAN TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND MR. MARCUS HAS WORKED WITH US BETTER THAN ANY OTHER DEVELOPER TRY TO ACQUIRE THAT.

QUITE A SACRIFICE TO CUT OUT 11.

THAT'S ABOUT A THIRD OF THE SUBDIVISION.

BEFORE YOU SPEAK, I WANT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT YOU, GIVE YOU THE BEST OUTLOOK AND THE BEST NEIGHBOR THAT WE CAN.

THERE'S NO QUESTION.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

IT'S IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY THERE AND NOT OFFICES AND LOSE 80% OF THE TREES HAVE RENTAL PROPERTY.

THE TRASH AND PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT, THE LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES WITH THAT.

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YOU'RE A LOT BETTER OFF.

I'M HERE TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER AND DO WHAT'S FAIR AND RIGHT.

I THINK THE REST OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL ARE, SO YOU NEED TO TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION IF YOU LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WOULD YOU INTRODUCE?

>> YES, SIR. JULIE JACOB, 503 DOVE CREEK PLACE IN GRAPEVINE.

>> THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR TATE, CITY COUNCIL AND COMMISSIONERS.

I'M AGAINST THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE.

I'M ONE OF THE ONES THAT SUBMITTED A PROTEST FORM.

EARLIER THIS YEAR, SOME NEIGHBORS AND I DID MEET WITH MR. MARCUS.

WE APPRECIATED HIM REACHING OUT AND TALKING TO US, AND WE WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO HEAR WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.

WE AGREE THAT HE MET THE CITY'S REQUEST, BUT WE REALLY DON'T FEEL THAT HE ADDRESSED THE CITIZENS REQUEST AND WHAT WE HAD OUTLINED LAST YEAR ON A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TO SAY.

THE ROAD THAT SITS OUTSIDE OUR FENCES IS GOING TO GIVE US A LOT OF NOISE AND TRAFFIC.

NOW THAT IT'S PUBLIC, IT'S ALSO GOING TO HAVE LARGE STREET LIGHTS THAT CREATE A HUGE AMOUNT OF LIGHT NOISE IN ALL OF OUR BACKYARDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY DARK AND PEACEFUL.

THE HOUSES COULD HAVE BEEN MOVED FURTHER FROM THAT FENCE, BUT THEY'RE NOT.

ARE OTHER RESIDENTS IN GRAPEVINE SUBJECTED TO A PUBLIC ROAD LIGHTING RIGHT OUTSIDE THEIR FENCES, AND WERE THEY HAPPY ABOUT THAT DECISION WHEN THOSE LIGHTS WERE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR HOMES FOREVER? MY NEIGHBORS AND I ARE GOING TO HAVE ANNUAL FEARS THAT THE RETAINING WALL BEING ADDED TO SUPPORT THE YARDS WILL GIVE WAY IN ANY FLOOD YEAR.

IN OUR MEETING, WE WERE NOT PROVIDED FLOOD STUDIES THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE AS EROSION IS A HISTORIC ISSUE WITHIN THE PROPERTY IN THE CREEK BEDS.

HAS THIS BEEN DONE AND HOW WILL IT IMPACT GRAPEVINE CITIZENS? HOW WILL THE CREEK BE MAINTAINED IN THE PROPERTY? OUR HOMES WILL HAVE TWO STORY HOMES OVERLOOKING OUR BACKYARDS.

THE HOUSE OUTSIDE MY FENCE IS NOW EVEN LARGER THAN IT WAS IN THE LAST PROPOSAL, AND IT LOOKS STRAIGHT INTO MY YARD.

WE WILL LOSE HUNDREDS OF TREES THAT WILL BE TAKEN DOWN OUTSIDE OUR FENCES AND LOSE THE SHADE AND WILDLIFE THAT WE ENJOY TODAY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT HAS TO BE DONE SOMETIMES, BUT THE PLANS REALLY DON'T MAKE ANY USE OF KEEPING ANY OF THE TREES IN THE EXISTING PROPERTY LINES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH.

IS THIS CONGRUENT WITH THE CITY'S TREE MANAGEMENT PLAN? CONSTRUCTION IS SET TO BEGIN THIS YEAR AND WILL LIKELY CONTINUE FOR FOUR PLUS YEARS OR LONGER IF THE LOT CONTINUES AND THE PRICING THAT HE HAD PROPOSED HOLDS TRUE.

GONE IS THE ORIGINAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT HE DISCUSSED LAST YEAR AT THE $900,000 PRICE POINT, AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER A MILLION AND A HALF.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY 85 HOMES FOR SALE IN GRAPEVINE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S AT LEAST A YEAR LONG, HIGH, IF NOT HIGHER AND LONGER THAN THAT.

DO WE REALLY NEED MORE RESIDENTIAL? WE KEEP REPEATING THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE REALLY DO.

WE LIKE THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.

WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S OTHER THINGS LIKE MAYOR TATE EXPLAINED.

BUT THAT RIGHT NOW PROVIDES US THAT GAP BETWEEN OUR YARDS AND THE SPACE THAT'S BUILT OUT AND DEVELOPED.

I JUST WOULD URGE THE CITY TO LOOK AT THE BEST USE, LOOK AT WHAT THE CITIZENS HAVE TO SAY.

A LOT OF THEM COULDN'T BE HERE THIS EVENING AND THEN TAKE OUR OPINION INTO ACCOUNT AS YOU MAKE YOUR DECISIONS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT.

>> FRANK COLBY, 538 DOVE CREEK CIRCLE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HEARING US.

THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE ARE GOOD CHANGES.

THEY DON'T DO MUCH FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE NORTH SIDE.

I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE RETAINING WALL.

WE HAVE FLOOD ISSUES ALREADY.

WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORS THAT CAME BEFORE LAST TIME TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH ISSUE THERE WAS WITH THE FLOODING.

I THINK WE'RE BUILDING A DAM.

WELL, I FORGET ALL THE FEET.

BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A DAM AND YOU ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING FLOODED AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.

I THINK THAT WE LIKE THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDING.

THE TIME THAT THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SINGLE STORY BUILDINGS.

THEY WON'T BE NEARLY INTRUSIVE.

THEY'LL ONLY BE OPEN DURING THE WEEK AND NOT DURING THE WEEKENDS AND NOT AT NIGHT.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO NOT CHANGE THE ZONING ON THIS. THANK YOU.

>> MAY I ASK A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT, PLEASE? MR. MARCUS, I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S RETAINING WALLS,

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AND THEN THERE'S RETAINING WALLS THAT ARE BUILT BY SOMEBODY THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE COMING DOWN THE STREET AND GOT SOME CEMENT TO PUT BETWEEN SOME ROCKS THAT ARE LYING AROUND.

WOULD YOU HAVE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER INVOLVED IN DESIGNING THIS RETAINING WALL IN THE AREA THAT IT'S NEEDED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT IF THIS IS GRANTED?

>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, TOO, FOR YOU. I PROMISE IT'S SIMPLE.

YOU'VE MENTIONED ABOUT THE FENCE, AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERN ABOUT, I GUESS, THE WINDOWS PROTRUDING INTO THE BACKYARDS, AND YOU SAID THAT YOU WOULD MAKE SURE THAT YOU WOULD NOT HAVE A WINDOW THAT WOULD DO THAT, CORRECT?

>> ON THE WEST SIDE.

>> YOU DON'T MIND PUTTING THAT IN THE PROPOSAL SO THAT IT'S IN WRITING BOTH WITH THE FENCE SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS COMFORT THAT THAT WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

>> THAT'S WHAT I AGREED TO, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE THAT OFFICIAL, PUT IT IN WRITING IN THE MOTION.

HOWEVER, ON THAT WEST SIDE WITH THE NEW FENCE AND THE WINDOWS, YES SIR.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT WITH THE P&Z THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.

THE CHALLENGE IS, NO MATTER REALLY WHAT YOU DO, YOU'RE GOING TO GET BEAT UP.

YOU JUST BETTER GET READY.

JUST BE REALLY SENSITIVE, WHICH I KNOW YOU ARE TO THE COMMUNITY AROUND YOU.

CHANGE IS NOT GOOD, AND PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THAT, AND THIS IS A BIG ONE.

WE SEE IT ALL AROUND OUR CITY WHENEVER THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS HAPPEN, AND I KNOW YOU WILL.

IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE GET THE CALLS AND EMAILS, SO JUST BE MINDFUL OF THAT AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.

>> THAT'S GREAT ADVICE, AND I'LL DEFINITELY TAKE IT. THANK YOU.

>> WOULD YOU INTRODUCE THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE?

>> I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAK.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE? MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT COMPLETES THE TESTIMONY.

>> WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MOVE TO CLOSE.

>> THE COMMISSION IS CLOSED, A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> ALL IN FAVOR?

>> MOVE TO CLOSE.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSE? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

THAT COMPLETES THE JOINT MEETING.

WE'LL RECONVENE IN THE MEETING ROOM TO THE RIGHT.

THAT'S A PUBLIC MEETING.

YOU'RE INVITED TO ATTEND.

IT'S NOT A REAL BIG ROOM.

THE COUNCIL WILL STAY IN SESSION HERE AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH CITIZEN COMMENTS.

>> HEY, DENNIS.

YOU SHOULD DO THE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE.

>> IT'S DONE. [BACKGROUND]

>> I KNOW.

>> THEY TECHNICALLY COME IN. WERE THEY CLOSE [INAUDIBLE]

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> CITIZEN COMMENTS.

>> YES, SIR, I HAVE ONE.

>> WE WILL BEGIN WITH CITIZEN COMMENTS.

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

ANY PERSON WHO'S NOT SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS OR ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEM BY COMPLETING A CITIZEN APPARENT REQUEST FORM WITH THE CITY SECRETARY.

A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA EITHER BEFORE OR DURING THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF THE ITEM.

UPON BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR, UPON THE CONSENT OF THE COUNCIL, CITIZENS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING LAW, THE CITY COUNCIL IS RESTRICTED IN DISCUSSING OR TAKING ANY ACTION UNDER THIS CATEGORY.

WOULD YOU INTRODUCE THE SPEAKER?

>> SIR, DEBBIE MEAT, 1025 BROWNSTONE DRIVE.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR TATE AND CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.

I WANT TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT AN EVENT THAT I RECENTLY HOSTED IN GRAPEVINE.

IT WAS 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION AT THE GAZEBO.

I WENT TO YOU, MAYOR TATE EARLY ON, AND I MADE THIS COMMENT THAT I BELIEVE THAT GRAPEVINE IS THE EPITOME OF HOMETOWN AMERICA.

WE HAVE THE FIREWORKS, WHICH, BY THE WAY, WAS THE VERY BEST FIREWORKS DISPLAY, I PERSONALLY HAD EVER SEEN.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN BECAUSE I WAS IN SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE FIREWORKS.

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I FELT LIKE THE SHOW WAS JUST RIGHT FOR US RIGHT THERE AT MESA ACROSS TEXAN TRAIL THERE.

BUT YOU AGREED WITH ME, AND WE MET AND WE CELEBRATED AT THE GAZEBO THROUGH PATRIOTIC MUSIC.

I HAD 15 SPEAKERS THAT SHARED WHY WE ARE PROUD TO BE AN AMERICANS HERE AND WE OFFERED SOME PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY.

OUR VERY OWN JUSTICE OF THE PEACE, BILL BRANDT OPENED UP WITH TALKING ABOUT WHY HE WAS SO PROUD TO BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AND TO BE AN AMERICAN AND THEN OFFERED A PRAYER.

I HAD THREE GRAPEVINE POLICE OFFICERS SHOW UP, AND ONE OF THEM, HE'S HERE FROM NEW YORK CITY, AND HE CONTRASTED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NEW YORK CITY AND HOW PROUD HE WAS TO BE IN GRAPEVINE, TEXAS AND BE A POLICE OFFICER HERE.

ANOTHER ONE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS SAID HIS BROTHER WORKS FOR THE GRAPEVINE PD, AND HIS DAD IS A JAILER.

THREE OF THEM WORK FOR THE GRAPEVINE PD.

THEN I ALSO HAD A VERY SPECIAL POLICE OFFICER SHOW UP, OFFICER RONNIE GUTERRES, WHO IS HERE TONIGHT, HE CAME.

I FOUND OUT SOMETHING ABOUT HIM THAT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW.

HE CAME TO THE US IN 2006.

HE DID NOT SPEAK ENGLISH.

HE LEARNED ENGLISH, AND HE WAS HIRED ON THE GRAPEVINE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND HE HAS RECENTLY MADE CAPTAIN.

HE IS NOW CAPTAIN RONNIE GUTERRES ON OUR POLICE FORCE AND I AM SO PROUD OF HIM.

JUSTIN MASON CAME.

HE'S A LOCAL GUY WHO'S UP AND COMING AND COUNTRY MUSIC, AND HE HAD HIS TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS WITH HIM, AND THEY SANG, GOD BLESS THE USA WITH LEE GREENWOOD BACKING THEM UP.

IT WAS JUST YOUR HOMETOWN, WONDERFUL COMING TOGETHER.

WE HAD 15 SPEAKERS TOTAL AND 103 PEOPLE PRESENT.

WE HAD OUR VERY OWN MAYOR TATE CLOSING US WITH A PRAYER.

I'M ALREADY MAKING PLANS NEXT YEAR TO MAKE THIS A BIGGER EVENT.

THE VFW HAS CONTACTED ME AND SAID THEY WANT TO BE A PART.

I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE AMBOX, AND TONIGHT, THE GRAPEVINE HISTORICAL SOCIETY SAID, HOW CAN WE COME TOGETHER AND HAVE THIS EVENT? THE ONE THING WE DID DISCOVER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT EARLIER.

IT STARTED AT 10:00-11:00, AND IT GOT A LITTLE WARM.

I'M THINKING MAYBE IF WE STARTED A LITTLE EARLIER IN THE MORNING AND GET OUT BEFORE IT GETS WAY TOO HOT.

I INVITED CONGRESSWOMAN BETH VAN DUYNE TO COME AND SHE WAS HEADED OUT TO DFW AIRPORT, AND SO SHE SAID, "DEBBIE, I'LL STOP BY THERE." SHE WAS AFTER OUR MEETING AND I ASKED HER, I SAID, "BETH, WOULD YOU GIVE ME A WORD AND SOMETHING THAT I CAN SHARE IN GRAPEVINE ABOUT THE 4TH JULY?" THIS IS WHAT SHE TOLD ME.

SHE SAID IN WASHINGTON, DC TODAY, THERE'S A LOT OF STRIFE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIVISION AND PEOPLE THINK IN AMERICA, THAT'S WHAT AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT.

SHE SAID WHAT YOU DID HERE TODAY.

THIS IS WHAT HOMETOWN AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT.

THIS IS WHAT OUR COUNTRY IS TRULY ABOUT, LOCAL PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER, LOVING ON ONE ANOTHER, SHARING SOME SONGS AND PRAYERS, AND BEING THANKFUL FOR THIS COUNTRY.

GOD BLESS THE USA.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE?

>> THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 9.

>> ALL RIGHT.

[9. Consider calling a public hearing to consider a possible amendment to the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance (Ordinance No. 82-73) same being Appendix “D” of the Code of Ordinances, as follows: amend Subsection A.3, Noise Regulation of Section 55, Performance Standards by adding an exception for residential standby generators, and take any necessary action. ]

CONSIDER CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A POSSIBLE AMENDMENT TO THE CONFERENCES ZONING ORDINANCE.

APPENDIX D, CODE OF ORDINANCE IS TO AMEND SECTION A THREE NOISE REGULATION OF SECTION 55 PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, ERIC MORONI.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE'VE RECEIVED A REQUEST TO ADD A NEW EXCEPTION FOR RESIDENTIAL STANDBY GENERATORS TO THE EXISTING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THEIR MEETINGS IN JANUARY AND IN JUNE.

RESIDENTIAL STANDBY GENERATORS ARE DESIGNED TO ENSURE SAFETY AND SECURITY DURING LONG POWER OUTAGES.

THEY PROVIDE CONTINUOUS POWER TO KEEP ESSENTIAL APPLIANCES AND SYSTEMS RUNNING, AND CAN BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH MEDICAL CONDITIONS THAT REQUIRE ELECTRICALLY DEPENDENT EQUIPMENT FOR THEIR FAMILIES, YOUNG CHILDREN OR ELDERLY FAMILY MEMBERS DURING EXTENDED POWER OUTAGES.

HAVING A RESIDENTIAL STANDBY GENERATOR CAN ALSO PREVENT PROPERTY DAMAGE AND FINANCIAL LOSSES BY MAINTAINING A FUNCTIONAL HOME ENVIRONMENT DURING UNFORESEEN ACTS OF GOD AND DIFFICULT TIMES WITH WEATHER.

THE ISSUE IS THAT THESE RESIDENTIAL STANDBY GENERATORS USUALLY EMIT NOISE AT A LEVEL AROUND 60-70 DECIBELS,

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WHICH IS ABOUT AS LOUD AS A NORMAL CONVERSATION.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN WHAT I'M SPEAKING AT RIGHT NOW WITH YOU PRESENTLY.

OUR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS CURRENTLY LIMIT THE LEVEL AT WHICH A RECEIVING RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT CAN HAVE THE NOISE.

IT HAS TO BE 59 DECIBELS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 7:00 AM AND 10:00 PM, AND THEN NO MORE THAN 52 DECIBELS BETWEEN 10:00 P.M AND 7:00 A.M FOR THAT RECEIVING ZONING DISTRICT.

MANY GENERATORS NEED TO RUN SELF DIAGNOSTIC TEST AUTOMATICALLY, EITHER ON A WEEKLY OR MONTHLY BASIS, WHILE OTHERS MAY REQUIRE MANUAL TESTING BY THE HOMEOWNERS.

BECAUSE OF THIS, HISTORICALLY IN GRAPEVINE, RESIDENTIAL GENERATORS HAVE TO BE EQUIPPED WITH BAFFLING COVERS OR OTHER NOISE ATTENUATION METHODS DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT CAN PRODUCE ISSUES AND ACTUALLY VOID THE WARRANTY FROM THE GENERATOR MANUFACTURER, AND IT CAN BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO ADD THAT BAFFLING OR COVER TO THE STANDBY GENERATOR.

FOR THESE REASONS, WE ARE ASKING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CALL A PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THE ADDITIONAL EXCEPTION TO SECTION 55 PERFORMANCE STANDARDS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR RESIDENTIAL STANDBY GENERATORS.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS, IT LIMITS IT TO TESTING PERIODS AND EMERGENCY EVENTS NOT USED IN PLACE OF PERMANENT ELECTRICAL CONNECTION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE?

>> QUESTIONS, PLEASE?

>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS, BUT, I MEAN, I HAVE A GOOD FRIEND THAT LIVES IN HOUSTON, AND OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE ALL OUT OF POWER.

SHE MAY EVEN STILL BE OUT OF POWER.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME GENERATORS, THEY HAVE A GENERATOR, AND THEIRS IS A RATHER QUIET GENERATOR.

THEN THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE CLOSE BY THAT HAVE REALLY LOUD GENERATORS.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE LESS EXPENSIVE OR WHAT, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE SOME CRITERIA.

I DON'T I'M NOT AN ENGINEER TO UNDERSTAND ANY OF THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME GENERATORS THAT ARE REALLY QUIET AND SOME THAT ARE EXTREMELY LOUD.

IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN HAVE SOME REGULATION TO.

>> MANDATE.

>> I KNOW THEIRS IS A MORE EXPENSIVE ONE AND THEY LIVE ON THIS LITTLE BITTY LAKE AND THEY SAID THAT THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR COULD HEAR ALL THE WAY ACROSS FROM SOMEONE ELSE'S GENERATOR.

I REALIZE THESE ARE EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES.

I WANT TO BE OPEN MINDED TO DOING WHAT WE CAN.

BUT I KNOW THEY CAN BE REALLY LOUD WHEN THEY'RE BEING TESTED IF THEY'RE NOT A QUALITY GENERATOR.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON IT.

>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS LIKE WHOLE HOME GENERATORS?

>> I'M SURE THEY'RE ALL PRETTY STANDARD.

>> THEY ARE.

>> I'M LOOKING AT NEIL BECAUSE I KNOW HE WROTE A LETTER.

I SAY THEY'RE ALL PRETTY STANDARD.

I IMAGINE THAT THE LOUD ONES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE THE PORTABLE GENERATORS THAT PEOPLE BRING OUT DURING A NATURAL DISASTER.

>> EITHER WAY, WHAT WE'VE SEEN ACROSS THE DIFFERENT BRANDS AND ONES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO BUILDING INSPECTIONS FOR PERMITTING IS THAT THEY DO EXCEED WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.

I UNDERSTOOD, WHICH AGAIN IS LESS THAN A NORMAL CONVERSATION.

WE'RE NOT TYPICALLY IN A PLACE TO BE DICTATING WHAT TYPE OF BRAND OR WHAT TYPE OF GENERATOR.

>> ABSOLUTE NOT.

>> BUT THE REAL CRITERIA IS THE STIPULATION THAT IT'S REALLY ONLY IN EMERGENCY PURPOSES.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> IF WE HAVE SNOWMAGEDDON AGAIN, I DON'T CARE HOW LOUD THE GENERATOR IS NEXT DOOR [LAUGHTER].

>> I REALLY THINK THAT'S THE WAY MOST CITIZENS WOULD FEEL.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING IT EVERY DAY, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT HEAD, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.

>> CORRECT.

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT EMERGENCY ARCH I'M ALL FOR IT.

>> THAT'S THE REGULATIONS THAT WOULD BE PLACED IN ANY ORDINANCE, I WOULD THINK THAT WE CHOSE TO ENACT.

WE HAVE A PORTABLE GENERATOR THAT WE WISELY BOUGHT IN CASE WE EVER NEEDED IT AFTER WE HAD SNOWMAGEDDON.

HAVEN'T HAD TO USE IT YET. IS IT LOUD? BUT WE WERE WITHOUT ANY POWER FOR FIVE DAYS.

WE HAD IT, IT WOULD HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE.

AS LONG AS AS IT'S DONE IN AN EMERGENCY, WHETHER IT'S A WHOLE HOME GENERATOR OR A PORTABLE.

PERSONALLY, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.

IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY, OUR CITIZENS NEED HELP.

I THINK THERE ARE REGULATIONS THAT WE COULD PLACE IN AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD BE REASONABLE.

THE MAIN THING FOR THE TEST PERIOD, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME HOURS DURING WHICH THE TESTS CAN OCCUR CAN OCCUR AT TWO IN THE MORNING.

MAYBE THE HOURS 10-6 OR 9-7, SOMETHING THAT IS REASONABLE, I THINK SHOULD BE A PART OF THE ORDINANCE.

>> THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.

>> I THINK ALL YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS JUST TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE CAN WORK. THE DETAILS.

WELL, I GUESS, I THINK THESE ARE

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THE DETAILS THAT WE WORK OUT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.

[OVERLAPPING] ALL WE'RE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS IS TO APPROVE HAVING. [OVERLAPPING].

>> I MEAN, WE NEED TO SOMETHING. I GENERALLY AGREE WITH THAT.

>> I'D GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> MY WRATH AT THE LAST ONE WAS LOUDER THAN A GENERATOR.

[LAUGHTER] SO I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU, WE GOT PHONE CALLS ABOUT THAT.

REALLY THIS IS A VERY TIMELY ISSUE TO CONSIDER AND MAKE SURE.

>> WELL, THE RELIABILITY OF IT IS DECREASING ALL THE TIME, AND I'LL SECOND CHRIS'S MOTION.

>> KEEP IN MIND THOUGH IT'S JUST SEAL, NO.

WE HAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LOSES POWER QUITE A BIT, AND IT'S LOUD BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THEM.

YOUR LITTLE GENERATORS TO WHEN YOU MULTIPLY IT BY THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, LOUD. THAT'S JUST PART OF IT.

>> IF YOU'RE FREEZING TO DEATH, THEY'RE BURNING UP.

>> I JUST THINK WE NEED TO.

>> YOU GOT HIGHER PRIORITIES WHEN THEY'RE.

>> NO. WHAT [INAUDIBLE] VOTE?

>> I'M SORRY.

>> YOU HAD A PROBLEM?

>> IS THIS PRESENTED A PROBLEM?

>> PEOPLE WITH THE GENERATORS RUNNING THEM DURING THE.

>> NO. IF ANYTHING, IT'S PEOPLE WHO NEED THEM.

>> WELL, IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY ALLOW THEM. I MEAN.

>> OR ORDINANCE DOESN'T ALLOW IT.

>> THAT'S BECAUSE.

>> OUR ORDINANCE DOESN'T ALLOW IT.

>> THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE PUBLIC LAYER.

>> TOO LOUD. THEY'RE ABOVE.

>> THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO ALLOW IT.

>> PUBLIC HEARINGS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I CHANGE AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THEM IN CASES OF EMERGENCY.

>> WE HAVE MOTION IN A SECOND.

>> YOU HAVE A MOTION, SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION, IF NOT, ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES.

>> ITEM 10, CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A POSSIBLE AMENDMENT TO COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE.

[10. Consider calling a public hearing to consider a possible amendment to the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance (Ordinance No. 82-73) same bring Appendix “D” of the Code of Ordinances, as follows: amend Subsection (C), Conditional Uses, of Section 25, “CC”, Community Commercial District; Subsection (C), Conditional Uses, of Section 26, “HC”, Highway Commercial District; and Subsection (C), Conditional Uses, of Section 31, “LI”, Light Industrial District, regarding the requirement of a conditional use permit for electrical vehicle charging stations, by adding an exception for automobile sales and services and retail establishments with the repair of new and used cars, light trucks and vans, motorcycles, and boats, and take any necessary action. ]

SAME BEING APPENDIX D OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TO MAKE SEVERAL AMENDMENTS, ERICA, YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT THEM?

>> YES, SIR. SO ON JANUARY 16 OF THIS YEAR, THE COUNCIL APPROVED AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE RELATIVE TO ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS IN NONRESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, INCLUDING PROVIDING YOU SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR LOCATION, SCREENING, AND BUFFERING.

AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE DID HAVE A GRAPEVINE BUSINESS OWNER WHO EXPRESSED THEIR OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT, PARTICULARLY FOR BUSINESSES INVOLVED IN AUTOMOBILE SALES AND SERVICES.

THEY CITED IN THEIR OPPOSITION DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT THEY ANTICIPATE MAJOR SHIFTS TOWARDS ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN THE MARKET, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACCOMMODATE THE CHANGING TRENDS IN THEIR INVENTORY FOR BOTH SALE AND REPAIR OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

COUNCIL WENT ON TO APPROVE THE EV CHARGING STATION AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER FRED AND I BELIEVE OTHERS DID ASK US TO MEET WITH THE PROTESTER, WHICH STAFF DID.

WE MET WITH OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS WHO DO AUTOMOTIVE SALES AND SERVICE IN GRAPEVINE.

WE MET WITH MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND DISCUSSED THEIR CONCERNS.

AS A RESULT FROM THOSE MEETINGS AND INTERNAL MEETINGS, WE ARE DRAFTING EXCEPTION LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY FOR AUTOMOBILE SALES AND SERVICE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A VALID CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING, STRICTLY FOR THE REQUEST TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING, IT WOULD AFFECT THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL, AND THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS, WHERE THESE USES ARE ALLOWED WITH A CONDITIONAL USE.

AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN, IT WOULD ALSO ESSENTIALLY STATE THAT IF THEY WERE TO INSTALL A LEVEL TWO OR BELOW CHARGING STATION, AND MEET ALL OF THE USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS THAT ARE ALREADY WRITTEN INTO THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT THEY WOULD NOT NEED TO SEEK APPROVAL OF AN ADDITIONAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO INSTALL LEVEL 1 OR 2 CHARGERS ON THEIR SITE.

AGAIN, IF THEY HAD A VALID CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTOMOBILE SALES AND SERVICE.

IT ALSO STATES THAT IT WOULD NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR DAY TO DAY USE.

IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR THEIR USE FOR SALES AND SERVICE FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS.

AND WITH THAT, MY PRESENTATION IS CONCLUDED, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> DO THAT ALLAY THE CONCERNS FROM THE PROTESTER?

>> BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE INFORMED US, YES.

THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A LEVEL 3, THE SUPER CHARGERS THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL TRANSFORMERS AND ADDITIONAL POWER FROM ENCORE.

>> NOW, WOULD THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PERMITTING PROCESS THROUGH YOUR DEPARTMENT?

>> THEY WOULD NEED TO SHOW IT ON A SITE PLAN.

>> THAT'S FINE.

THEY WOULD NEED TO GET PERMITS FROM BUILDING SERVICES.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING.

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT TO CONSIDER BEGINNING PHASE 2 OF THE REC PERFORMANCE UTILIZATION ANALYSIS WITH MARKER RINKER SCAT ARCHITECT.

[11. Consider beginning Phase 2 of The REC Performance Utilization Analysis with Barker Rinker Seacat Architecture and take any necessary action. ]

DID WE EVER GET THE FIRST?

[02:20:03]

IT TOOK FOREVER TO GET IT.

I'M VERY HAPPY WITH THEM.

I MEAN, I'VE BEEN YEARS HAVE GONE BY AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACTION DOWN THERE.

WE'VE GOT ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS THAT EXISTED, AND THEY'RE STILL THERE TODAY.

WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING, I DON'T KNOW, CHARGING A LOT OF MONEY.

I'M NOT FOR SURE, WHETHER THEY'RE THE RIGHT COMPANY OR NOT, AND WHAT REPORT WE'RE GOING TO GET.

>> WELL, LET ME JUST SAY THIS.

I MEAN, TRENT, GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION, AND THEN I'LL ADDRESS THAT QUESTION AT THE END, IF YOU WANT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT FOR CONSIDERATION IS TO MOVE INTO PHASE 2 OF THE PERFORMANCE AND UTILIZATION ANALYSIS OF THE REC WITH BARKER RINKER SEACAT ARCHITECTURE.

AS YOU REMEMBER, DURING THE APRIL SECOND MEETING EARLIER THIS YEAR, BRS PRESENTED THEIR FINDINGS FROM PHASE 1 OF THE ANALYSIS.

THEY GATHERED THE DATA FROM NEARLY A DECADE OF OPERATIONS AT THE REC, AND THEIR PRESENTATION HIGHLIGHTED SEVERAL KEY PRESSURE POINTS WITHIN THE FACILITY.

THEY ALSO BEGAN EXPLORING POTENTIAL CHANGES TO ENHANCE THE OVERALL USER EXPERIENCE AT THE REC.

NOW WE ARE SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE TO PROCEED WITH PHASE 2 OF THE ANALYSIS.

THIS PHASE WILL INVOLVE DEVELOPING A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR BOTH SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FACILITY.

THE PROJECT TEAM WILL INCLUDE BRS ARCHITECTURE, A STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING FIRM, MECHANICAL ENGINEERING FIRM, AND A COST ESTIMATOR.

THIS TEAM WILL COLLABORATE TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS AIMED AT ENSURING THE REC REMAINS A PREMIER DESTINATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

WE ARE EXCITED TO WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND BRING YOU RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL KEEP THE REC AS A DESTINATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO ENJOY RECREATION, EDUCATION, AND BUILD COMMUNITY.

WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> MAYBE.

>> HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE?

>> THIRTY-ONE WEEKS IS THE SCHEDULE FOR PHASE 2, MAYOR.

>> THAT'S AN AWFUL LONG TIME.

>> I COULD TELL YOU, JUST BY OPERATING THERE, A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE AND THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO IT.

THESE PEOPLE ARE STRANGERS TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY'RE TOO ACADEMIC.

THEY'RE TAKING TOO LONG.

IT'S GOING TO COST US A TON OF MONEY, AND I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE IN WHAT THEY RECOMMEND.

>> PERIOD. THEY'VE BLOWN IT ON THEIR FIRST PHASE.

IT'S TAKEN FOREVER.

WHAT DID WE GET?

>> AGAIN, WHAT YOU GOT WAS.

>> HAVE STARTED THE EASY STUFF.

BALANCING OUT THE NEED, THE EQUIPMENT, AND THAT STUFF.

THEY WENT WITH THE BIG STUFF.

THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE IN THEM MYSELF.

I THINK WE'VE WASTED OUR TIME AND OUR MONEY.

>> AGAIN.

>> I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT.

>> I WANT TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE.

>> BUT FOR.

I WANT TO GET SOMEBODY IN THERE THAT'S PRACTICAL AND DILIGENT AND CAN GET IT DONE.

WITH OUR BASIC NEEDS NOT COME IN WHERE WE NEED TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING OR DO WE NEED TO DO THIS OR THAT.

>> THEN THAT IS NOT WHAT THE CHARGE IS, YOUR HONOR.

>> IT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE.

>> PERIOD.

>> AGAIN

>> IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR.

I MEAN, I'VE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS FOR TWO YEARS.

I KEEP, WE'RE HAVING A STUDY DONE.

WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE END OF IT.

NOW WE'RE AT PHASE 2, AND WE HAVE NOTHING. TWO YEARS.

>> IT'S EMBARRASSING.

>> AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF PHASE 2 IS TWOFOLD.

ONE IS TO ADDRESS STRUCTURALLY, WHAT CHANGES HAVE TO BE MADE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THE PINCH POINTS IN THE REC.

LET'S TAKE FOR EXAMPLE THE WORKOUT ROOM WHERE ALL THE EQUIPMENT IS.

IT NEEDS TO GET BIGGER.

IF IT GETS BIGGER, IT'S GOING TO DISPLACE SOMETHING ELSE.

>> SOMEBODY WITH ANY SENSE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TELL IT LONG AGO WITH A LOT LESS STUDY.

>> CRAMMING IT WITH A BUNCH OF EXTRA EFFORT THAT DOESN'T REALLY LEAD TO ANYTHING, AND JUST HADN'T SOLVED OUR PROBLEMS.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> THEY'RE POOR, THEY'RE TERRIBLE.

I HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN THEM.

WE WASTED OUR MONEY.

AN ARCHITECT COULD HAVE ALREADY TOLD US PROBABLY WHAT OUR NEEDS WERE.

OUR STAFF SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TELL US WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE IN A LOT OF THE CASES.

THEY'RE THERE EVERY DAY. THEY SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE USING AND WHAT THEY'RE NOT USING.

[02:25:04]

>> THAT WAS A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE STUDY.

>> MAYOR, I WOULD MOVE THAT WITH TYPE OF THIS ITEM RATHER THAN GOING FORWARD WITH IT.

>> I THINK WE OUGHT TO AND REALLY SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FOR OUR MONEY OR WHETHER WE NEED TO CHANGE.

>> WELL, LET ME SAY THIS. OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, TABLING IT, COMING BACK TO YOU ALL AT THE NEXT MEETING, AND TALKING THIS THROUGH BECAUSE WE NEED A STRATEGY THAT WILL WORK.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

>> I'M ASKING FOR SOME RELIEF.

I'M ASKING FOR SOME PROGRESS.

>> UNDERSTOOD.

>> I'M ASKING FOR SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO STUDY THIS THING TO DEATH.

>> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

>> BECAUSE OUR STAFF CAN TELL YOU A LOT OF THINGS WE NEED, AND THEN ALL WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO ADD SOME ROOM.

ALL WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS A LOT OF PAPERWORK THAT'S NOT GOING TO MEAN ANYTHING.

>> ACTUALLY, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE POINT.

AGAIN, IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH IT, PLEASE TABLE IT, AND WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING.

>> LET'S REEVALUATE THIS.

>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU I'M SURE YOU WILL TAKE THIS MESSAGE BACK TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ON THE PROJECT.

>> BUT, YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SAYING FROM DAY 1.

WE GOT TO GET THIS THING MOVING.

WE GOT TO GET THIS THING DONE.

I SUPPORT AND APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

>> PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SAID IT DIFFERENTLY, BUT I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH WHAT HE'S SAYING.

>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO JUMP TO PHASE 2 AND NOT DO PHASE 1 [OVERLAPPING], BUT YOU COULDN'T DO THAT.

>> COMPREHENSIVE.

>> VERY COMPREHENSIVE.

>> BUT AGAIN.

>> WE'VE GOT A MOTION A SECOND FAVOR.

>> DO WE NEED TO GIVE A CERTAIN DATE?

>> WE NEED TO VOTE?

>> WE DON'T NEED TO GIVE A CERTAIN DATE.

>> IT'LL BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA. I ASSURE YOU.

>> I AGREE.

>> I WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

>> WE'VE GOT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLAN

[23. Zoning Change Application Z24-03 (Hotel Multifamily Mixed-Use Development) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-057, if applicable, and take any necessary action. ]

ZONING COMMISSION COME FORWARD [NOISE].

MR. CHAIRMAN, ITEM 23.

>> Z 24 OR THREE WAS DENIED 70.

>> I'LL MOVE FOR ACCEPTANCE OF THE P&Z RECOMMENDATION.

>> WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION, IF NOT, ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES ITEM 24.

[24. Conditional Use Permit CU24-17 (Hotel Multifamily Mixed-Use Development) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-058, if applicable, and take any necessary action. ]

>> CU 24 17 WAS DENIED 70.

>> CONSIDERATION IS IN ORDER.

>> QUESTION. THAT'S FOR THE MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ROAD. IS THAT LAS VEGAS?

>> GOT YOU. I MISSED THAT. GO AHEAD.

>>NO.

>> THE DEL MULTI FAMILY.

>> I MOVE. WE SUPPORT THE PZS RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL OPPOSE. MOTION CARRIES, ITEM 25.

[25. Preliminary Plat for Lots 2-4, Block 1, Grapevine Mills Wells Addition – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and take any necessary action. ]

>> PRELIMINARY PLAT WAS DENIED 70.

>> CONSIDERATION IS IN ORDER.

>> I'LL MOVE FOR DENIAL OF THE PLAT.

>> ALL IN FAVOR. ALL OPPOSE. ITEM 26.

[26. Final Plat of Lots 2 and 3, Block 1, Grapevine Mills Wells Addition – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and take any necessary action. ]

>> FINAL PLAT WAS DENIED 70.

>> I'LL MOVE FOR DENIAL OF THE PLAT.

>> SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL OPPOSE. MOTION CARRIES, ITEM 27.

[27. Conditional Use Permit CU24-23 (Los Amigos) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-059, if applicable, and take any necessary action. ]

>> CU 24, 23.

THIS IS LOS AMIGOS WAS APPROVED 70

>> I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> ALL IN FAVOR. ALL OPPOSE.

MOTION CARRIES, ITEM 28.

[28. Conditional Use Permit CU24-25 (Winestein’s Tasting Room) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-060, if applicable, and take any necessary action. ]

>> CU 24 25 WAS APPROVED 70.

>> I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>>SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR. I OPPOSE.

MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 29.

[29. Zoning Change Application Z24-04 (736 East Northwest Highway) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-061, if applicable, and take any necessary action. ]

>> Z 24 OH FOUR WAS APPROVED 70.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>>SECOND.

>> FINAL PLAT, NORTHERN HILLS ADDITION WAS APPROVED 7O.

MOTION CARRY. ITEM 30.

[30. Final Plat of Lots 1, 2 and 3, Block 1, Northern Hills Addition – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and take any necessary action. ]

>> MOTION IS IN ORDER.

>> I GOT TO FIND [INAUDIBLE].

>> I'LL MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE STATEMENT OF FINDINGS IN THE FINAL PLAT OF 1,2 AND 3 BLOCK 1 NORTHERN HILLS ADDITION.

>> ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSE.

MOTION CARRIES ITEM 31.

[31. Zoning Change Application Z24-05 (Grapevine Springs) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2024-062, if applicable, and take any necessary action. ]

>> Z 24 05 WAS APPROVED 70 WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE LOTS 1.5, THAT THE FENCE TO THE WEST WOULD BE REPLACED WITH EIGHT FOOT FENCE BOARD ON BOARD WITH THE TOP RAIL, AND THAT NO SECOND STORY ROOMS WOULD HAVE WINDOWS FACING THE WEST ON THOSE LOTS.

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>> I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL WITH THE P&Z RECOMMENDATION.

>> I HAVE A COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE PLEASE.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE REALLY UNHAPPY ON THE NORTH SIDE.

I WANT TO THANK MR. MACS FOR ALL THE EFFORT HE'S MADE IN ORDER TO TRY TO MAKE THIS BE RIGHT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WANTED.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE HOUSES LOOK UNIQUE AND YOU HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF THEM APPEARING AND SO FORTH.

I THINK THAT ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD RATHER SEE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO END UP BEING THE RIGHT DECISION.

I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT PUBLICLY.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH OFFICE COMPLEX.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONCRETE, A LOT OF PARKING, A LOT OF TRAFFIC, A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING AND GOING, A LOT OF LIGHTS, A LOT OF GARBAGE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THOSE PEOPLE REALLY CAN VISUALIZE OR WANT.

SINGLE FAMILY IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THEM.

IT'S THE BEST COMMUNITY FOR THAT SITE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WE WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE IT A BETTER PRODUCT FOR EVERYBODY AND PROTECT EVERYBODY'S RIGHTS WE'VE GOT.

>> MAY I MAKE ONE COMMENT TO MR. MACS, PLEASE? WHEN YOU WERE SHOWING THE SLIDES OF THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS OF THE HOMES, THE ONES THAT WERE TRADITIONAL LOOKING LIKE THOSE OVER IN COLOR WERE VERY IMPRESSIVE.

I WANTED TO PASS THAT ALONG.

I ALSO WANTED WANTED TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT OFFICE USE, THERE'S A LOT OF EMPTY OFFICE SPACES THROUGHOUT THE METROPLEX.

THE DEMAND FOR OFFICE USE IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE, BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING FROM HOME ANYMORE.

THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO DECREASE AT ALL EVER, THOUGH I SUPPOSE IT COULD, BUT WHEN YOU NEED HOMES AND YOU HAVE A SITE LIKE THIS, IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO, AND I COMMEND YOU ON YOUR PRESENTATION AND THE CHANGES YOU'VE MADE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WHIP THE DEAD HORSE JUST ONE MORE TIME.

>> WHAT DID I SAY?

>> MANY OF THE PICTURES, I THOUGHT ALL THE PICTURES ARE IMPRESSIVE.

NONE OF US CAN AGREE ON A STYLE OF HOME THAT WE ALL LIKE.

I LOVE TRADITIONAL, BUT I KNOW SOME PEOPLE DON'T.

WHAT WE WANT IS A GOOD QUALITY PRODUCT.

YOU HAVE A TRADITION OF DOING THAT. I FEEL COMFORTABLE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'LL SEE.

WE DON'T WANT COOKIE CUTTER, BUT WE DO WANT BEAUTIFUL HOMES, AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT PROJECT. NOW THE HORSE CAN DIE.

>> THERE'S A MOTION.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> IT TAKES A SUPERMAJORITY.

ALL IN FAVOR. ALL OPPOSE.

THAT'S THE ONLY SECOND SUPERMAJORITY I'VE EVER SEEN [LAUGHTER] IN THIS COUNCIL.

IT PASSES.

CONGRATULATION TO EVERYBODY FOR MAKING IT A BETTER PRODUCT.

IT'S AS GOOD A PRODUCT AS A SINGLE FAMILY AS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PRODUCE, I THINK, IN THIS TOWN. THAT CONCLUDES [INAUDIBLE].

>> TWO MORE.

>> OR, YOU GOT TWO MORE, 32.

>> THIRTY TWO?

[32. Concept Plan CP24-01 (Grapevine Springs) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and take any necessary action.]

>> YES. CP 24 01 WAS APPROVED 70.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> APPROVAL.

>> SECOND?

>> FINAL PLAT WAS APPROVED OF GRAPEVINE SPRINGS WAS APPROVED 70.

MOTION CARRIES ITEM 33.

[33. Final Plat of Lots 1-5 and 6X, Block 1, Lots 1-12 and 13X, Block 2 and Lots 1-4, 5X, Grapevine Springs and Lot 1R, Block 1R, Grapevine Office Park – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and take any necessary action. ]

>> I MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE STATEMENT OF FINDINGS AND THE FINAL PLAT OF LOTS ONE THROUGH FIVE AND 6X, BLOCK 1, LOTS ONE THROUGH 12 AND 13.

BLOCK 2 AND LOTS ONE THROUGH FOUR, 5X, BLOCK 3.

>> GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

>> BLOCK 1R,GRAPEVINE OFFICE PARK.