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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:05]

>> ALL RIGHT. SEVEN O'CLOCK.

YOU WANT TO CALL THE BRIEF IN ORDER TO REVIEW.

[1. Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a briefing session to discuss all items scheduled on tonight’s agenda. No action will be taken. Each item will be considered during the Regular Session which immediately follows the Joint Public Hearings]

>> WE HAVE FOUR JOINT PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS FOR YOU THIS EVENING FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THESE THREE PLATS.

THE FIRST JOINT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS BOTH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST AND A PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST.

THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST IS ASSOCIATED WITH AN EXISTING RESTAURANT AT 110 NORTH MAIN STREET.

IT'S THE SOURCE RESTAURANT IN ONE OF THREE SITES THAT'S FOUND ON LOT FIVE OF THE SUBDIVISION.

THERE'S ALSO A REQUEST FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY TO ALLOW FOR DEVIATION FROM PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXISTING RESTAURANT.

BUT THE CU IS TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSUMPTION RETAIL SALE AND STORAGE OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGES FOR THE EXISTING RESTAURANT FAIR AND WINE ONLY.

PROPERTY IS ON HC HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL.

THE SUBJECT RESTAURANT SUITE IS LOCATED ON LOT 5 OF THE NORTH MAIN SHOPPING CENTER ADDITION, PHASE 3.

THE SITE WAS DEVELOPED PRIOR TO 1987 AS A SINGLE STORY MULTI-TENANT BUILDING.

THE MULTI-TENANT BUILDING HAS ONE PARKING LOT, WHICH HAS A TOTAL OF 83 SPACES BETWEEN FIVE LOTS.

THERE'S FOUR LOTS TO THE NORTH.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S LOT LINES THAT SUBDIVIDE THE BUILDING.

LOT 5 HAS A TOTAL OF 40 PARKING SPACES, WHILE THE EXISTING THREE TENANTS REQUIRE 50, THAT LEAVES A DEFICIT OF 10 SPACES.

TO HELP ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY.

THEY HAVE ALSO VOLUNTARILY PROVIDED AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS THE REDEFINED OWNER, ALLOWING FOR FIVE SHARED PARKING SPACES FOR THEM TO UTILIZE, SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY IF CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST, REDUCE THAT NEED TO FIVE SPACES THAT THEY WOULD NEED.

>> DID THE PARKING ISSUE COME UP WHEN THEY ASK FOR THE CU?

>> YES. IT CAME UP WITH THE CU FOR ALCOHOL.

LIKE I SAID, THE SAUCE HAS BEEN IN THERE SINCE 2019, AND PRIOR TO THAT, THERE WAS A NEW YORK PIZZA, PASTA AND SAGE AND THEN AT POINT IN A QUIZNO SANDWICH SHOP.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PARKS TO THEM.

NORMALLY, WHEN WE HAVE THESE MULTIPLE TENANTS IN THESE BUILDINGS, WE TRY TO ENSURE AS NEW TENANTS COME IN THAT WE'VE GOT SUFFICIENT PARKING.

DID THIS JUST FALL THROUGH THEM?

>> I BELIEVE ACTUALLY.

>> WELL, I GUESS TO ME, IT APPEARS THAT'S NOT THE TENANT'S FAULT.

>> IT IS NOT.

>> THAT'S THE CITY'S FAULT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD AND I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF PUTTING THE OVERLAY ON IT TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE EXTRA PARKING.

BECAUSE THAT THROWS A WRENCH INTO THE IDEA OF TRYING TO GET THE PARKING CORRECTED IF WE HAVE TENANT CHANGES IN THE REST OF THE FACILITIES, NOR DO I THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE APPROVAL OF THE FIVE EXTRA SPACES OFF SITE BECAUSE, HOW WE DON'T LIKE THIS OFFSITE PARKING BECAUSE IF THAT CHANGES OWNERSHIP, THAT GOES AWAY TOO.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM ABOUT.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY ASKING FOR MORE SEATING OR ANYTHING.

THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE ALCOHOL.

TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS MY GUT FEELING.

WE ARE JUST APPROVED THE CU FOR THE ALCOHOL AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THE PARKING OVERLAY OR WORRY ABOUT REQUIRING THEM TO DO THE EXTRA PARKING ON THE LOT TO THE SOUTH.

I THINK WOULD BE FINE IF THEY DO, BUT NOT MAKE IT PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS.

THAT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'LL THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE OUGHT TO BE TRYING TO KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STRIP CENTERS, WE HAVEN'T CAUGHT THAT.

YOU JUST CAN'T PUT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE ALL YOU GOT TO DO SOMETHING ELSEWHERE WITH IT, BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PENALIZING THE TENANT WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT EARLIER, AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I'M FOR.

I HATE TO PUT THE OVERLAY TO ALLOW PARKING THAT LETS THEM HAVE LESS PARKING THAN THEY NEED.

IF THEY WERE TO LEAVE, THAT OVERLAY IS STILL THERE, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A GOOD THING TO KEEP THAT THERE.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO REALLY CONSIDER JUST APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL USE AND LEAVING THE PARKING ISSUES OUT OF IT TO TRY TO EVENTUALLY GET BACK TO STATUS QUO AT SOME POINT.

ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST MY $0.02 ABOUT THIS.

>> WHAT ARE THE OTHER TWO TENANTS THAT?

>> THERE'S A ROW SHOP AND THEN THE VINE SALON.

THOSE ARE REALLY THE MAIN DRIVERS OF THE PARKING DEMAND BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING.

OF THE 50 NEEDED, IT'S THE RESTAURANT ONLY NEEDS 15.

THOSE OTHER TWO TENANTS ARE REALLY TAKING UP THE OTHER 30 THAT ARE NEEDED.

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>> WELL, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSILLAR.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE EVER GOING TO GET TO THE POINT TO FIX THAT.

>> WELL, AND WE MAY NOT, BUT IT WASN'T FIXED YESTERDAY, EITHER.

IF YOU WERE ASKING FOR MORE SEATING, I COULD UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO TRY TO LOOK AT THE PARKING THING, BUT THE PARKING IS STILL THE SAME AND HE'S STILL OPERATING IN THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE SAME SEATING.

IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE SHOULD BE PENALIZING HIM AND US DOWN THE ROAD TO GET THIS TO BE ACCEPTABLE.

>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY?

>> THIS NEXT REQUEST IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO DEVELOP AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR GARAGE WITH AN 18-FOOT TALL WHOLE SIGN.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DOWN CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.

YOU MAY RECALL THIS ONE FROM YOUR FEBRUARY 20TH MEETING, AND AT THAT TIME, IT WAS DENIED.

AS PART OF THAT REQUEST, THEY SHOWED AN AREA TO THE WEST ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE AS OPEN STORAGE.

SINCE THEN, THEY HAVE DECREASED THAT AREA AND THEY HAVE CREATED WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO AS A FULLY SCREENED COVERED AND PARTIALLY ENCLOSED AREA OF A SMALLER NUMBER OF SPACES, APPROXIMATELY 19 SPACES OR 3,000 SQUARE FEET ADJACENT TO THAT PROPERTY LINE.

TO SHOW YOU WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IS IT WOULD HAVE AN OPAQUE WALL AND FENCE ALONG WITH MULTIPLE PLANTINGS AND TREES AND THEN THERE WOULD ALSO BE COVERS OVER EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE SPACES SO THAT YOU WOULD ESSENTIALLY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT IS PARKED WITHIN THAT.

BUT THE BUILDING ITSELF THAT'S ONSITE, THAT IS A 30-FOOT TALL, 23,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT HOUSES THE BODY SHOP, AND IT ALSO INCLUDES REPAIR AREAS, OFFICE, RESTROOMS, AND LOBBY FOR PATRONS.

ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED POLE SIGN AND IT'S SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE OVER HERE ON THE NORTHEAST ALONG THE 121 FRONTAGE ROAD.

THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, THIS PARTIALLY ENCLOSED FULLY SCREENED AREA, THE CANOPY AREA WILL ALSO BE GATED.

YOU CAN SEE THE GATE RIGHT HERE ON THE NORTHERN END.

ACCESS WILL CONTINUE TO BE VIA SHARED ACCESS FROM THE WEST AND FROM AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROAD, WHICH WOULD BE RIGHT IN AND RIGHT OUT, SO THAT WOULD BE RESTRICTED ACCESS.

TOTAL NUMBER OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES IS 79.

SEVENTY-NINE ARE PROVIDED.

THIS IS ONLY FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE USE OF AUTOMOTIVE AIR GARAGE AND THE POLE SIGN.

>> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE SIGN ITSELF.

THE SIGN ITSELF IS 10 FEET BY 6 FEET.

IT'S NOT ARTICULATED.

>> THIS IS BASICALLY THE SAME DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAD AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A ZONING CHAIN SO WE JUST MADE A CONDITION OF THESE?

>> CORRECT. WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING THE AREA SHOWN IN YELLOW AS OUTSIDE STORAGE BASED ON THE TREATMENTS IN THE PROPOSALS WITH THE SCREENING, THE FOLIAGE, AND THE CANOPY COVERS.

THEY NO LONGER NEED TO REZONE TO A DIFFERENT DISTRICT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

[BACKGROUND] THE THIRD REQUEST IS A REZONE REQUEST TO REZONE 8/10 OF AN ACRE LOCATED AT 1001 MAIN STREET, EXCUSE ME, SOUTH MAIN STREET FROM A PO, PROFESSIONAL OFFICE DISTRICT TO A CN, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR RETAIL SALES AND SERVICE OF ELECTRONIC GOODS.

THIS PROPERTY WAS INITIALLY DEVELOPED AS A 3,000-SQUARE-FOOT BANK.

MOST RECENTLY, IT WAS BANK OF AMERICA, AND IT HAS DRIVE-THROUGH SERVICE.

THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO SELL AND SERVICE APPLE ELECTRONIC PRODUCTS SUCH AS MACBOOKS, APPLE WATCHES, IPADS, AND SUCH, AND ACCESSORIES WITHIN 3,200 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

THEY DO NOT PLAN TO HAVE ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE SITE LAYOUT, ACCESS, PARKING, OR BUILDING ELEVATIONS AT THIS TIME.

>> ONCE IT'S REZONED, AND IF THAT GOES OUT OF BUSINESS, THEN THINK OF A COMMERCIAL AND IT COULD BE?

>> IT COULD BE A BANK AGAIN.

>> CONVENIENCE STORE.

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>> IT COULD BE OTHER RETAIL USES.

IT COULD BE A CLOTHING STORE.

>> RESTAURANT.

>> THE GOOD THING WITH THAT IS THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A CU TO CHANGE WHATEVER TYPE OF BUSINESS THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN THERE, CORRECT?

>> NO. [OVERLAPPING]

>> FOR THE RETAIL SALE OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, NO.

>> ANYTHING THAT FALLS UNDER THE CN, THEY CAN DO AS THE MATTER ARISE.

[BACKGROUND] ANY COMMERCIAL LOW INTENSITY.

THEORETICALLY LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL.

>> IT COULD BE A CONVENIENCE STORE, RIGHT?

>> IT COULD BE A CONVENIENCE STORE.

>> YOU'RE PROPOSING TO USE THE EXISTING BUILDING?

>> YES. NO EXPANSION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

>> THERE'S NO LAYOUT OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE INSIDE, RIGHT?

>> THE FLOOR PLAN?

>> RIGHT.

>> NO.

NO ALCOHOL SALES. [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND]

>> RIGHT BEFORE THE ORDINANCE. JUST KIND OF A DISPLAY AREA, THERE'S SOME SEATING.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> ANYTHING ELSE, ANYBODY?

>> THEN THE FOURTH TO JOINT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, WE ALSO PROVIDED A HANDOUT TO YOU AT THE TABLE.

THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO HANDOUTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

THERE'S THE SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS WHAT'S CORRECTED ON HERE AND YOU CAN SEE A SMALL THING WITH ARROWS, THE SYMBOLOGY THAT WAS USED FOR PARKING WITHIN THE GARAGES.

WHAT WENT OUT IN YOUR PACKET, THERE WAS SOME LABELING OVER, THAT SYMBOLOGY, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE IT EASIER.

THAT'S ALL THAT'S CORRECTED TO SHOW THAT THERE'S JUST MORE PARKING SPACES ONSITE.

THAT'S WHAT THE 11 BY 17 HANDOUTS INDICATE.

THEN I'VE ALSO GOT A SHORT MEMO AND A REVISED ORDINANCE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, AND I'LL GET TO THAT IN ONE MOMENT.

BUT THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY TO ALLOW FOR 17 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOMES AND ONE OPEN SPACE LOT ON A LITTLE MORE THAN AN ACRE.

SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF JEAN STREET, WEST OF BERRY STREET, NORTH OF NASH STREET.

THERE'S ALSO SOUTH OF A PRIVATE FIRE LANE AND DRIVE AND EXISTING MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH.

IT'S PRESENTLY ZONED LIKE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, ALTHOUGH IT IS DEVELOPED WITH FIVE LOTS, FOUR OF WHICH HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED STRUCTURES THAT ARE CURRENTLY RENTAL UNITS AND THEN ONE VACANT LOT.

THIS REQUEST WAS PREVIOUSLY BEFORE YOU LAST NOVEMBER 21ST OF 2023, AND IT WAS DENIED AT THAT TIME.

AT THAT TIME, THEY WERE ASKING FOR 19 TOWNHOMES IN AN OPEN-SPACE LOT.

SINCE THAT REQUEST, IT'S BEEN MODIFIED.

THEY DECREASED THE UNIT COUNT BY TWO, SO THEY WENT FROM 19 TO 17.

THEY REMOVED A UNIT OR LOT OFF OF BLOCK A, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THAT PRIVATE DRIVE TO THE NORTH, AND THEN A UNIT FROM BLOCK C, DOWN TO THE SOUTH.

AS PART OF REMOVING A UNIT OFF OF BLOCK A, THEY'VE ADDED OFF-STREET PARKING, AND THEN THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AREA.

BY REMOVING A UNIT HERE, WE'VE GOT TWO PARALLEL PARKING SPACES RIGHT HERE TO ADD FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING.

THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY HAS THEN DECREASED FROM THE PREVIOUS REQUEST TO 16 DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE.

IT'S LOCATED WITHIN FOUR STRUCTURES.

MOST OF THE PARKING IS WITHIN THE GARAGES.

IT'S ON THESE SIMPLE LOTS.

THERE'S FIVE OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES.

UNITS WILL RANGE FROM 3,100 SQUARE FEET TO 5,100 SQUARE FEET, BUILDING HEIGHT, THREE STORIES BETWEEN 47.5 FEET AND 48.5 FEET.

IT WILL FEATURE UP TO FIVE BEDROOMS, FOUR AND A HALF BATHS, PRIVATE GARAGE THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THESE TWO PARKING SPACES WITHIN EACH OF THEM.

WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU IN THIS MEMO AND THEN THE ATTACHED MODIFIED ORDINANCE IS THAT WE WORKED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO REALLY SPECIFY WHAT THE REQUEST WAS.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY.

IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, THE TDO WOULD TAKE THE PLACE OF THE BASE ZONING AND THE LI DISTRICT USES AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WOULD NO LONGER APPLY.

THEY WOULD BE HELD TO THE TDO OVERLAY FOR TOWNHOMES IN THE COMPLETE SITE PLAN PACKAGE THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT CLEARER.

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>> BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T IN THE TDO, IT WOULD BE WHAT? NINE UNITS AN ACRE?

>> YEAH.

>> IF IT WAS UNDER AN RTH DISTRICT, THE MAXIMUM DENSITY WOULD BE NINE UNITS AN ACRE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IN ESSENCE, THIS NEW ORDINANCE, IT REZONES AN OVERLAY, BUT IT'S GOT THE UNDERLYING ASPECT THAT IT CAN ONLY BE FOR TOWNHOUSE?

>> CORRECT. IF THIS GOES AWAY, THE [INAUDIBLE] INDUSTRIAL DOESN'T COME BACK?

>> CORRECT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> NOR DOES ANYTHING IN THE TDO COME BACK, ONLY TOWNHOUSE.

>> ONLY THIS TOWNHOUSE, NOT JUST ANY TOWNHOUSE? [OVERLAPPING]

>> CORRECT.

>> SPECIFICALLY, IT WILL BE THIS OR IT WILL BE WHERE YOU HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR THE [NOISE] TOWNHOUSE? [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THAT IS THE NEW LAYOUT NOW.

>> THESE ARE SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THEN EVERY JOHN HAS THREE PLATS?

>> YEAH, IT'S PART OF THE PLAT FOR THE NASH AND BERRY ADDITION THERE.

THERE WAS AN AIR CONVENTION THERE, SO INFEASIBLE LOTS WITH THE HOA LOT, THAT YOU PUT AN X IN THERE.

IT'S JUST OVER AN ACRE IN SIZE.

JUST A CASE OF CLARIFICATION, WITHIN THE APPLICATION PACKET IT JUST CALLS GREG GIFFORD AS THE APPLICANT, IN REALITY, ON THE SECOND PAGE IT'S RICHARD GIBERSON, SO JUST CLARIFYING THAT FOR THE RECORD HERE.

IN THE CORNERS, THERE'S THIS PROPERTY THERE, IT'S BEEN EASTMANS GRANTED, HOWEVER, WE NEED RIGHT-AWAY ABANDONMENTS.

IF THIS PLAT IS APPROVED, AND THE CASE IS APPROVED, THEN WE'LL COME BACK IN FUTURE TIME FOR THE ABANDONMENTS AND THE COUNCIL.

THAT'S JUST A MATTER OF PROCEDURE WE HAVE TO DO WITH THIS IF THE TRANSIT OVERLAY ISN'T APPROVED, JUST REJECT THE PLAT AS WELL, PLEASE.

ANY QUESTIONS? FINAL TWO ITEMS THIS EVENING ARE THE PRELIMINARY FINAL PLAT OF LOT 1 BLOCK 1, FAITHFUL AND TRUE ADDITION.

THE PROPERTY IS JUST AT 2910 PARR LANE.

IT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT EAST OF PARR ROAD ON PARR LANE.

IT'S A BIG EMPTY LOT OVER THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

I USED TO SEE HAY BALES OUT THERE. IT'S ON THE R-20.

IT'S 17 ACRES, AND THE APPLICANT, LELAND PENNINGTON, IS PROPOSING TO BUILD A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME ON THE PROPERTY.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PROPERTY, THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF FLOODPLAIN AND FLOODWAY.

THE APPLICANT HAS DONE A FLOODPLAIN RECLAMATION PERMIT AND HAS RECEIVED WHAT'S CALLED A CONDITION LETTER MAP REVISION WITH FEMA, AND THERE ARE PUBLIC NOTICES NEEDED FOR THAT.

THERE'S A PROCESS OF FILLING THE SITE TO BRING IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN, SO HE CAN CONSTRUCT HIS HOME, AND THEN HE WILL FINISH UP BY DOING WHAT'S CALLED THE LETTER MAP REVISION WITH FEMA.

THESE ARE JUST PROCESSES YOU HAVE TO DO AT ANY TIME YOU RECLAIM [NOISE] WITHIN THE FLOORMAP.

IN THE FUTURE, HE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK WITH AN AMENDED PLAT TO MOVE THESE EASEMENTS THAT ARE SHOWING ON THE PLAT, TO FINALIZE IT, AND GET A SEAL FOR US.

>> HOW MUCH WILL BE LEFT IN THE FLOODPLAIN? DO YOU HAVE ANY TESTIMONY OF THAT?

>> I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.

PROBABLY APPROXIMATELY HALF OF IT STILL.

IT'LL BE BORDERING MORE ALONG THE TREE LINE THERE.

HE'S TRYING NOT TO UPSET YOU.

YOU CAN SEE THE SQUIGGLY LINE FOLLOWING ALONG NORTH AND EAST SIDE.

HE'S NOT REALLY GETTING INTO THAT AT ALL WITH HIS GRADING PLAN, SO IF YOU TAKE THAT ABSTRACT BOUNDARY ABOUT HALF OF IT WILL STILL BE WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN.

HE'S JUST BASICALLY MASSAGING THE LINES AROUND SO HE CAN DEVELOP IT FOR HIS HOME.

>> I LIVED ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS AND THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPER REQUIRED TO BUILD A SIDEWALK AND CURB ALONG PARR LANE, HIS PROPERTY ENDS HALFWAY UP THE HILL, AN EXISTING STREET WILL BE NON-CURBED AND GUTTERED IN THAT STREET.

WILL THAT BE ADDRESSED IN THE BUILDING PROCESS OR SUCH?

>> HE WILL HAVE TO BUILD THAT ACROSS HIS FRONTAGE.

>> THEN THE FRONTAGE WON'T TIE INTO THE STREET, THEY WON'T HAVE A CURB AND GUTTER?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> AND THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT, I KNOW [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S PART OF THE REQUIREMENT AND WE WILL PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT THROUGH A DEVELOPER, AND WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

>> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO FILL IN THE GAPS.

CORRECT. THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT OF THIS PLAT THOUGH.

>> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH SOME UPCOMING TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES, LINDSEY SENT OUT AN EMAIL A FEW WEEKS AGO, SO PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING EITHER THE APPOINTED AND ELECTED OFFICIALS WORKSHOP THAT WILL BE IN [INAUDIBLE] IN JULY FOR THE STATE APA CONFERENCE, WHICH WILL BE IN OUR BACKYARD, SORT OF, IN ALLEN.

THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOMETHING [INAUDIBLE].

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>> ANYTHING ELSE, THAT'S ALL?

>> THAT'S ALL FOR TODAY.

>> WE'LL ADJOURN A BREAK.

BEGAN EARLIER TONIGHT AT SIX O'CLOCK.

ANY ACTION OF THE COUNCIL AS A RESULT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, MR. RUMBELOW?

>> NO, YOUR HONOR.

>> THAT COMPLETES THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE'LL CALL THE 7:30 MEETING TO ORDER.

[JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL]

I ASK YOU TO RISE FOR THE INVITATION AND PLEDGE.

VICE CHAIRMAN MONICA HOTELLING.

>> DEAR LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US, AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN THIS GREAT STATE AND THIS GREAT CITY.

WE ASK THAT TONIGHT THAT YOU BE WITH US TO HELP US MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THIS CITY AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.

WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU LOOK OVER AND PROTECT OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND OUR MILITARY AS THEY PROTECT US.

IN JESUS'S NAME, WE PRAY. AMEN.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AMEN.

>> I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO OUR MEETING TONIGHT.

WE FIRST HAVE FOUR JOINT PUBLIC HEARINGS BETWEEN THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL.

IT'LL BE FOLLOWED BY THE COUNCIL'S AGENDA.

THE PROCEDURE ON OUR JOINT MEETINGS WILL DECLARE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON EACH CASE.

WE'LL ASK THE STAFF TO INTRODUCE THE REQUEST.

WE'LL GIVE THE APPLICANT A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

THEN IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, AND YOU'RE NOT AN APPLICANT, YOU NEED TO REGISTER WITH MS. BROOKS SO WE'LL HAVE A RECORD OF YOUR PARTICIPATION AND YOUR EVIDENCE.

IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, AND SO YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

AFTER THE TESTIMONY IS TAKEN ON EACH CASE, WE WILL CLOSE THAT AND THEN THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION WILL SEPARATE TO THEIR MEETING ROOM LATER TONIGHT AND WE'LL DISCUSS THE MERITS OF THE APPLICATIONS, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL.

WE INVITE YOU TO BE A PART OF YOUR GOVERNMENT TONIGHT.

WE BEGIN BY OPENING A PUBLIC HEARING ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT

[3. Conditional Use Permit CU24-08 and Planned Development Overlay PD24-02 (Sauce’d) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Gena Cannon with All Tex Permits, LLC requesting a conditional use permit to allow the possession, storage, retail sale of on and off premise consumption of alcoholic beverages (beer and wine) in conjunction with an existing restaurant. The applicant is also requesting a planned development overlay to deviate from, but not be limited to required parking from Section 56, Off-Street Parking Requirements of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance, No. 82-73. The subject property is located at 110 North Main Street and is currently zoned “HC”, Highway Commercial District. ]

CU24-08 AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY PD24-02 AND ERICA MAROHNIC FROM THE STAFF WILL INTRODUCE THE REQUEST.

>> THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CHAIRMAN, AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THIS REQUEST IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE POSSESSION, STORAGE, RETAIL SALE, AND ON AND OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, BEER, AND WINE ONLY, IN ASSOCIATION WITH AN EXISTING RESTAURANT, SAUCE'D, LOCATED AT 110 NORTH MAIN STREET.

THIS IS ALSO A REQUEST FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY TO ALLOW DEVIATION FROM REQUIRED PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXISTING RESTAURANT.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED HC HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND FEATURES AN EXISTING MULTI-TENANT BUILDING, WHICH IS SUBDIVIDED INTO SEVERAL LOTS, FIVE LOTS.

THE SUBJECT RESTAURANT SUITE IS LOCATED ON LOT 5 OF THE MULTI-TENANT SHOPPING CENTER OF THE NORTH MAIN SHOPPING CENTER ADDITION PHASE 3.

THE SITE WAS DEVELOPED PRIOR TO 1987 AS A SINGLE-STORY MULTI-TENANT BUILDING.

THE MULTI-TENANT BUILDING HAS ONE PARKING LOT WITH A TOTAL OF 83 PARKING SPACES WHICH ARE SHARED AMONG TENANTS OF ALL FIVE LOTS.

LOT 5 HAS A TOTAL OF 40 PARKING SPACES.

HOWEVER, WITH THE EXISTING THREE SUITES, 50 PARKING SPACES ARE NEEDED, LEAVING A DEFICIT OF 10 SPACES.

TO HELP ADDRESS THE ISSUE, THE APPLICANT HAS PROFFERED A PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AND AGREED TO LEASE FIVE SPACES FROM THE ADJACENT PARKING LOT TO THE SOUTH TO ALLEVIATE THE FULL DEFICIT.

REGARDING THE POSSESSION, STORAGE, AND RETAIL SALE OF BEER AND WINE ONLY, THERE ARE TWO POINTS OF SALE AT THE COUNTERS SHOWN ON THE FLOORPLAN WITHIN YOUR PACKET AND TWO POINTS OF STORAGE SHOWN ON THE FLOORPLAN.

SURROUNDING USES INCLUDE RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, AND PERSONAL SERVICES TO THE NORTH, A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT TO THE SOUTH, A MIXED MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO TO THE EAST, AND THE BANK OF THE WEST TO THE WEST, NO PUN INTENDED, ACROSS NORTH MAIN STREET.

ACCESS TO THE SITE WILL REMAIN AND PROVIDED VIA EXISTING DRIVEWAYS OFF NORTH MAIN STREET AND CROSS ACCESS FROM ADJACENT LOTS TO THE NORTH.

THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

MR. CONNER GUILDENBLATT IS HERE THIS EVENING FROM SAUCE'D.

HE'S READY TO PRESENT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS EITHER THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHO OWNS THAT PARKING LOT TO THE SOUTH?

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE APPLICANT? [BACKGROUND]

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS Y'ALL, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I GREW UP IN THIS CITY, AND YOU GUYS HAVE MADE IT AN AWESOME PLACE FOR ME TO COME HOME TO AND OPEN UP MY OWN BUSINESS, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LIKE I SAID, I OWN SAUCE'D PIZZA, HOME OF THE ORIGINAL TEXAS STYLE CRUST, AND NEW HOME OF THE HAWAIIAN BUN GARLIC BUTTER SMASHBURGERS.

IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T BEEN THERE YET, PLEASE COME BACK AND TRY US OUT.

WITH THIS BEER AND WINE LICENSE, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE.

WE'RE JUST AIMING TO FULFILL THE NEEDS OF OUR CUSTOMERS.

WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO STAY COMPETITIVE WITHIN OUR INDUSTRY.

YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB OF BRINGING RESTAURANTS TO THIS TOWN, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I STILL KEEP MY NAME AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING ALL THAT COMPETITION TO OUR TOWN, IT'S BEEN GREAT.

[LAUGHTER] FEW THINGS.

WE DON'T PLAN TO EXTEND OUR HOURS.

WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON DOING ANY OUTDOOR SPEAKERS.

WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON TURNING IT INTO A BAR-TYPE ATMOSPHERE.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE BUSINESS AS USUAL WITH BOTTLES OF BEER, BOTTLES OF WINE, AND GLASSES OF WINE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'M READY.

>> RICHARD.

>> ABOUT HOW MUCH OF YOUR BUSINESSES CARRY OUT VERSUS DINE IN?

>> PROBABLY 60% CARRY OUT, 40% DINE IN ABOUT.

IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO GIVE CUSTOMERS A BEER WHILE THEY WAIT.

IT'D BE A GREAT LITTLE UPTICK.

>> QUESTION? NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS YOU'RE HAVING THE SAME NUMBER OF SEATS YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD.

YOU'RE NOT INCREASING THE SEATS.

OUR REQUIREMENT IS THE SAME, WHETHER IT'S ALCOHOL OR NOT ALCOHOL IN TERMS OF THE PARKING.

YOU'VE BEEN IN OPERATION FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AS HAS THAT CENTER.

I THINK IT'S BEEN UNDERPARKED FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

I'VE STUDIED IT A LITTLE BIT, AND HAVE YOU EVER FOUND THAT YOU HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH PARKING ON SITE?

>> NO. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, OUR NEIGHBORS, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT BUSINESS STYLE THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE A BROW BLUE TICK NEXT TO US, WHICH IS MAINLY BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.

I THINK IT EVEN SAYS IT ON THEIR DOOR.

SAME WITH THE SALON NEXT DOOR TO US.

THE GREAT IN ESCAPE IS MAINLY OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS.

THERE'S A SHOW ROOM, SO WE'RE PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY PLACE OPENED UP SEVEN DAYS ALL DAY.

WE HAVE AMPLE AMOUNT OF PARKING.

>> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THE ONLY THING I JUST WANT TO THROW THIS OUT AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THAT PARKING LOT IS PRIVATELY OWNED, BUT WE MAINTAIN IT, AND WE TOOK CARE OF THAT.

THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SPACES THAT ARE USED BY THE OWNER OF THAT PARKING LOT.

BUT IT'S ALSO PUBLIC PARKING.

I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.

BUT IF WE CHOSE TO KEEP THAT AS PUBLIC PARKING RATHER THAN IDENTIFY IT SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU THAT ISN'T BEING USED, WE LOSE THOSE SPACES.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE OPEN TO THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. YOU CAN SCRATCH THE PARKING STUFF, AND I'LL TAKE THE BEER AND WINE.

>> I JUST WANTED TO KNOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> THE FIVE PARKING SPACES YOU'RE GOING TO LEASE FROM THE OWNER COMES OUT OF HIS ALLOTMENT THAT HE'S ENTITLED TO BY VIRTUE OF [INAUDIBLE].

>> I JUST THE ONES WITH THE LOGOS ON IT.

THOSE LITTLE REDEFINED COFFEE CUPS.

>> NOT OUT OF THE REMAINING THAT'S PUBLIC PARKING.

IT'S OUT OF HIS ALLOTMENT.

>> CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BUT I'LL REITERATE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER DARLENE FREE SAID, I DON'T THINK THIS LEASE OF THESE FIVE ADDITIONAL SPOTS IS NECESSARY.

I DO GO BY YOUR LOCATION MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A PARKING PROBLEM ON THAT SIDE OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.

IT'S NOT A YOU ISSUE, IT WAS A US ISSUE.

I DON'T THINK THAT THE LEASE OF THE FIVE SPACES IS NECESSARY.

>> NO VALUE THERE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> IT'S EARLY FOR YOU TO SERVE BEER AND ONE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> SAVE YOU SOME MONEY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK.

>> NO, YOUR HONOR.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE?

>> NO, SIR.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MOVE TO CLOSE.

>> ALL FAVOR.

>> THE COMMISSION CLOSED A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> CLOSED.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR. ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT,

[4. Conditional Use Permit CU24-14 (Stuart’s Paint and Body) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Omar Oweis with Oweis Enterprises, LLC requesting a conditional use permit to develop an automotive repair garage and an 18-foot pole sign. The subject property is located at 2051 State Highway 121 and is currently zoned “CC”, Community Commercial District.]

CU24-14, ERICA MAROHNIC.

>> THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO DEVELOP AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR GARAGE WITH AN 18 FOOT POLE SIGN.

THE PROPERTY IS PRESENTLY ZONED CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND IS UNDEVELOPED.

THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO DEVELOP A 30 FOOT TALL, 23,000 SQUARE FOOT AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR GARAGE, WHICH WILL FEATURE INDOOR AUTO BODY REPAIR AREAS, AND OFFICE, RESTROOMS, AND LOBBY FOR PATRONS.

AS PART OF THIS REQUEST, AN 18 FOOT TALL POLE SIGN IS LOCATED AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE ADJACENT TO STATE HIGHWAY 121.

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AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A FULLY SCREENED COVERED AND PARTIALLY ENCLOSED AREA OF APPROXIMATELY 19 PARKING SPACES WITH SHADE STRUCTURES.

IT WILL FEATURE A 6-8 FOOT TALL SCREENING FENCE WITH SHRUBS, AND IT MAY ALSO INCLUDE OTHER PLANTINGS, INCLUDING FLOWERING PLANTS TO SCREEN APPROXIMATELY 3,000 SQUARE FEET ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHWEST PROPERTY LINE.

THERE WILL BE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS, AN EXISTING ACCESS OFF A STATE HIGHWAY 121 AT THE NORTH CORNER OF THE SITE, AND THE OTHER THROUGH AN EXISTING ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE WEST OF LOT 2.

TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT OF 79 79 SPACES ARE PROVIDED.

THE APPLICANT, MR. OMAR OWIS IS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION AND COUNSEL MAY HAVE.

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO SEE US AGAIN HERE.

I WAS HERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WITH THE SAME PROJECT.

I WAS HERE WITH OUR QUALITY COLLISION TEAM, AND WE HEARD A LOT OF THE COMMENTS LOUD AND CLEAR.

WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.

WE WORKED EXTREMELY HARD WITH A LOT OF THE STAFF MEMBERS TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO COME AND RESOLVE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU ALL HAD FROM THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE.

I WANTED TO JUST QUICKLY GO BACK TO JUST WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER.

QUALITY COLLISION IS A NATIONAL COMPANY.

THEY ARE FOCUSED ON THE LUXURY CAR MARKET.

THEY WORK WITH CARS LIKE PORSCHES, MASERATI, FERRARIS.

IT'S AN EXTREMELY HIGH END LOOK, AND A LOT OF THE CARS THAT THEY WORK ON ARE EXTREMELY HIGH END.

THIS LOCATION THAT THEY'RE BUILDING OUT HERE IS A MARQUEE LOCATION FOR THEM.

IT'S GOING TO BE CONSIDERED ONE OF THE SHOWCASES AND SHOW PIECES FOR THE COMPANY NATIONALLY.

THEY HAVE I WANT TO SAY OVER 100 LOCATIONS AT THIS POINT, AND THIS IS THE LOCATION THAT THEY WILL BE RECOGNIZING ON THEIR WEBSITE, HAVING A BUNCH OF PUBLICITY AND PRESS SPECIFICALLY AROUND IT.

HOPEFULLY, IT'S GOING TO BRING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE.

LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WE HEARD WAS THE SPOT ZONING ISSUE.

GOING BACK AND WORKING WITH STAFF, WE WERE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BE ABLE TO REMAIN IN THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT WITH JUST NEEDING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT HERE TODAY.

THE BIG THING THAT WE WERE REALLY ABLE TO CHANGE FROM THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE IN THIS TIME IS THE PARKING.

THAT'S FOR STORAGE.

WE WERE ABLE TO TURN THAT INTO AN ENCLOSED PARKING.

I ACTUALLY ADDED A COUPLE OF EXTRA RENDERINGS FROM WHAT YOU ALL SAW A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

WE ADDED CANOPIES TO THE TOP OF THOSE AREAS.

WE ACTUALLY REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF OUTSIDE STORAGE, AND WE INCREASED THE LANDSCAPING PACKAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT FROM ANY HIGHWAY THAT YOU DRIVE ON, ESPECIALLY 26, THE RAMP THAT GOES UP, IT REALLY KEEPS IT ENCLOSED AND YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE ANY OF THOSE OUTSIDE STORAGE PARKING SPOTS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE A WHITE FENCE, AGAIN, NOT MUCH OF A RENDERING, BUT THIS JUST SHOWS YOU FROM THE HOTEL SIDE AND FROM THE DAMASI SIDE.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING TOWARDS THIS PROPERTY.

THERE'S AN EIGHT FOOT HIGH WOODEN BOARD-ON-BOARD FENCE PAINTED, LOOKS GREAT WITH ALL THE LANDSCAPING, SO YOU REALLY CAN'T EVEN REALLY LOOK INTO IT FROM THAT SIDE.

REALLY JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SHOW YOU A VISUAL OF IT JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

I WON'T GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE OTHER SLIDES AS WE WENT THROUGH THOSE LAST TIME, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE RENDERING HERE, INCASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM?

>> NO, I KNOW IT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ZONING.

I'M HAPPY TO SEE IT THE WAY IT IS.

I THINK IT'S AN ENHANCED PRODUCT FOR YOUR CLIENTS AS WELL, HAVING SOME COVERED AREAS FOR THEIR CARS TO SIT.

I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN I TAKE MY CAR TO THE DEAL OR TO THE STOP.

I'M LIKE, HEY, MAN, THIS ISN'T GOING TO GET SIT OUT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YES, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.

YOU'VE GOT A GATE THERE.

IS THAT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE LOCKED IN THE EVENING? HOW DOES THAT WORK? IS IT ELECTRONIC OR?

>> IT'S GOING TO BE LOCKED IN THE EVENING.

THIS IS FOR JUST THE SECURITY OF THE CARS THAT ARE STILL REMAINING UNDER REPAIR AGAIN. EXTREMELY HIGH END.

THESE CARS CAN BE WORTH A COUPLE $100,000 A PIECE.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S LOCKED IN AND CLOSED.

YES, EVERY NIGHT, THAT WILL BE CLOSED IN, AND JUST FOR OVERNIGHT PARKING AND THEN THE NEXT DAY, THEY'LL OPEN IT BACK UP AND JUST BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT AND GO THROUGH THE CARS.

>> ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE WALL, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> ACTUALLY THERE'S TWO GATES, ONE FROM EACH SIDE SO THAT CARS CAN PULL THROUGH.

THE WALL AND THE FENCE IS JUST ON THE BACK SIDE, SEPARATING THE DAMASIS AND THE HOTEL FROM THE SITE.

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>> IT LOOKS GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

>> QUESTIONS? NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNSEL.

>> I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND GET THIS ALL WORKED OUT, TO BE ABLE TO WORK IN THE GREAT CITY OF GRAPEVINE.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO OVERCOME LITTLE HILLS AND SOMETIMES IT'S MOUNTAINS, AND I'M SO GLAD IT ALL WORKED OUT, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL ADDITION TO OUR CITY.

I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU WORKED HARD TO GET IT ALL STRAIGHTENED OUT. THANK YOU.

>> IF NOTHING ELSE, WE'LL WORK HARD ENOUGH TO TRY TO GET THIS THING BUILT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> NO, SIR.

>> PROBABLY NOT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?

>> NO, YOUR HONOR.

>> CORRESPONDENTS?

>> NO, SIR.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MOVE TO CLOSE.

>> SECOND.

>> FAVORS.

>> THE COMMISSION CLOSED A MOTION FROM THE COUNSEL.

>> MOVE TO CLOSE.

>> SECOND.

>> FAVOR.

OPPOSED. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON ZONING APPLICATION Z24-2 ERICA MORONI.

[5. Zoning Change Application Z24-02 (MacDaddy’s) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Jim Sager with Transwestern Real Estates requesting to rezone 0.87 acre from “PO”, Professional Office District to “CN”, Neighborhood Commercial District to allow for retail sales and service of electronic goods. The subject property is located at 1001 South Main Street. ]

>> THIS REQUEST IS TO RE-ZONE APPROXIMATELY 8/10 OF AN ACRE FROM THE PO, PROFESSIONAL OFFICE DISTRICT TO THE CN, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR THE RETAIL SALE AND SERVICE OF ELECTRONIC GOODS.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1001, SOUTH MAIN STREET AND PRESENTLY ZONED PO PROFESSIONAL OFFICE DISTRICT.

THE SITE WAS DEVELOPED AS A BANK WITH DRIVE THROUGH.

THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO SELL APPLE ELECTRONIC PRODUCTS SUCH AS MACBOOKS, APPLE WATCHES, IPADS AND ACCESSORIES IN THE EXISTING 3,200 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

SURROUNDING USES INCLUDE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH AND MULTI-TENANT PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDINGS TO THE SOUTH EAST AND WEST.

NO OTHER CHANGES ARE PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS SITE'S LAYOUT, ACCESS, PARKING, OR BUILDING ELEVATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS RE-ZONE REQUEST.

THE BUSINESS OWNER, MR. KIRK PORTER IS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSIONER, COUNSEL MAY HAVE.

>> CHAIRMAN.

>> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. I'M GLAD TO BE HERE TODAY.

I'M EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS OUR CONCEPT CALLED MACDADDY'S.

THIS IS THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT GOING INTO AND BASICALLY, WE SELL APPLE PRODUCTS AND WE ALSO DO SERVICE ON COMPUTERS, WE OFFER SAME-DAY SERVICE.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE A LOCATION IN THE CARROLLTON LOCATION DOWNTOWN.

WE'VE BEEN THERE FIVE YEARS.

MACDADDY'S HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 2010 AND WE ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, ONCE THEY FIND US, THEY DON'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE, BECAUSE THEY JUST LOVE US.

OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE IS AMAZING.

WE HAVE SAME-DAY SERVICE.

WE BRING A LOT TO THE CITY BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE COME TO GET REPAIRS, THEY LIKE TO COME AND EAT AND STUFF AND PICK UP STUFF, SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED.

MY WIFE IS FROM GRAPEVINE.

SHE GRADUATED GRAPEVINE HIGH SCHOOL, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THIS CONCEPT TO THIS AREA AND MAKE GRAPEVINE OUR HEADQUARTERS FOR WHERE WE WANT TO EXPAND.

WE'RE SUPER EXCITED. THIS IS OUR CURRENT CARROLLTON LOCATION THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME FROM ALL OVER THE METROPLEX TO COME SEE US.

EVERYWHERE. EVEN OUT-OF-STATE PEOPLE COME TO SEE US, AND LIKE I SAID, ONCE PEOPLE FIND US, THEY ALWAYS COME TO US.

WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE TO THE GRAPEVINE AREA AND OFFER SOME OF OUR SERVICES, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW.

THIS IS THE CURRENT SPACE THAT WE'RE LOOKING GOING TO AND MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SPACE, MAKING IT LOOK MORE MODERN AND TO THE APPEAL OF THE APPLE STORE LOOK.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> QUESTION. THIS POPPED IN MY HEAD.

WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THOSE DRIVE-THROUGHS?

>> ON THOSE, WE WERE JUST GOING TO USE IT FOR PARKING RIGHT NOW.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

>> SORRY. IT'S MY FIRST TIME.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> CAN YOU GO THROUGH JUST SOME OF THE OTHER USES THAT IF THIS BUSINESS WERE TO CLOSE, WHAT ELSE COULD BE THERE UNDER THAT ZONING? COULD IT BE A GAS STATION, COULD IT BE CONVENIENCE STORE, OR CLOTHING STORE, OR JUST SOME EXAMPLES?

>> RETAIL SALES AND SERVICE, IT COULD BE A CLOTHING STORE, THERE COULD BE A CONVENIENCE STORE.

A BANK COULD RE-OCCUPY THE LOCATION.

>> GAS STATION?

>> A GAS STATION WOULD THAT BE PERMITTED UNDER.

>> [OVERLAPPING] I DON'T THINK SO.

>> CAN YOU CHECK REAL QUICK?

>> RESTAURANT.

>> NO.

>> NO RESTAURANTS, RIGHT?

>> NO.

>> JUST BASIC NORMAL RETAIL?

>> YES. IT'S INTENDED FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES-TYPE USES.

>> DRYCLEANERS?

>> YES.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> QUESTIONS?

>> YEAH. WHAT KIND OF HOURS WILL YOU MAINTAIN?

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>> OUR HOURS RIGHT NOW, WE ARE OPEN FROM 11:00 TILL 6:00, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, SATURDAY FROM 12:00-4:00 AND WE CAN EXTEND THOSE HOURS ON SATURDAY IF NEEDED.

WE'RE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS.

>> HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO BE AT THIS LOCATION?

>> WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE LIKE THREE OR FOUR EMPLOYEES, AND THEN AS NEEDED, WE WOULD ADD MORE.

>> NO OTHER QUESTION?

>> QUESTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. IS THIS GOING TO BE AN ADDITION TO THE CARROLLTON STORE OR ARE YOU CLOSING IT HERE?

>> IT'S AN ADDITION TO THE CARROLLTON STORE.

>> AN ADDITION?

>> YES.

>> AND WILL IT LOOK SORT OF THE SAME, OR ARE YOU GOING TO DO A DIFFERENT TYPE?

>> IT'LL LOOK MODERN LIKE THIS, YES.

>> LESS LIKE A BANK.

>> SAY THAT AGAIN?

>> LESS LIKE A BANK.

>> YES. LESS LIKE A BANK, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WILL YOU ALSO BE WORKING ON CELL PHONES? [OVERLAPPING]

>> YES. WE WORK ON CELL PHONES.

WE HAVE A 15-MINUTE CELL PHONE REPAIR.

WE'RE CERTIFIED APPLE TECHS AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE OFFER, IS REALLY GOOD QUALITY SERVICE FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND GET THEIR PHONES FIXED FAST, BECAUSE WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE BUSY AND WANT TO GO THROUGHOUT THEIR DAY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

ARE YOU MAKING SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE FACADE? ARE YOU PAINTING? ARE YOU GOING TO DO OTHER THINGS? [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH, OUR PLANS ARE TO PLANS ARE TO MAKE IT MORE MODERN-LOOKING BY PAINTING IT AND ADDING SOME BLACK TRIM, MAKING IT LOOK VERY NICE.

EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS VERY WORLD-CLASS, IT'LL LOOK BEAUTIFUL.

IT'LL LOOK BEAUTIFUL WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?

>> NO, SIR.

>> ANY CORRESPONDENCE?

>> NO, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. CHAIRMAN.

>> NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> CLOSE.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR.

>> MOTION CLOSED. A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> MOVE TO CLOSE.

>> SECOND.

>> FAVOR. ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY

[6. Transit District Overlay TDO24-01 (Nash Berry Townhomes) and Final Plat of Lots 1-17, 18X, Block 2-R , Nash and Berry Addition – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Richard Giberson with Berry, Jean, & Nash, LLC requesting a transit district overlay to allow for the development of seventeen (17) single-family attached townhomes with one open space lot; and to replat Lots 6, 7 and 8, Block 2 Hilltop Addition. The subject property is located at 931/ 937/ 943 Jean Street and 930/ 936 Berry Street and is currently zoned “LI”, Light Industrial District. ]

TDO24-01 AND FINAL PLATES OF LOT 1-17,18X, BLOCK 2-R, NASH AND BERRY EDITION. ERICA MAROHNIC.

>> THIS REQUEST FOR A TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY IS TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 17 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOMES ON 17 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS AND ONE OPEN SPACE LOT ON APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS BOUNDED BY JEAN STREET TO THE EAST, BERRY STREET TO THE WEST, AND NASH STREET TO THE NORTH.

THE SITE IS PRESENTLY ZONED LI, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND LOCATED WITHIN THE TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY BOUNDARIES.

THERE ARE FIVE NON-CONFORMING SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL LOTS OF WHICH FOUR HAVE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ON THEM, AND ONE REMAINS VACANT.

A PREVIOUS REQUEST FOR 19 TOWNHOMES WAS DENIED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT YOUR MEETING ON NOVEMBER 21ST, 2023.

THE APPLICANT HAS MODIFIED THAT REQUEST BY PROPOSING TO REMOVE TWO UNITS, ONE FROM BLOCK A ALONG THE NORTH PORTION OF THE SITE, AND ONE FROM BLOCK C, AND ADDED OPEN SPACE AND OFF-STREET PARKING.

WITH THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ALONG JEAN, NASH, AND BERRY TO THE SOUTH OF THE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

PROPOSED DENSITY WITH 17 DWELLING UNITS WOULD BE 16.7 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

THE 17 DWELLING UNITS WILL BE LOCATED WITHIN FOUR STRUCTURES.

ALL UNITS WILL BE ON FEE SIMPLE LOTS APART FROM THE ONE OPEN SPACE LOT, WHICH WILL BE MANAGED BY A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

UNITS ARE PROPOSED TO BE FOUR STORIES IN HEIGHT, RANGING FROM 47.5 FEET TO 48.5 FEET AND RANGING IN SIZE FROM 3,100 SQUARE FEET TO 5,100 SQUARE FEET OF LIVING AREA.

THEY MAY ALSO FEATURE UP TO FIVE BEDROOMS. AN INTERNAL COURTYARD IS PROPOSED THAT CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MULTIPLE STREET FRONTAGES, PROVIDING BOTH PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT IN SHARED EASEMENT SPACE.

ATTACHED AS AN EXHIBIT TO YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS, IS AN AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLIANCE SIGNED BY THE PROJECT ARCHITECT STATING THE PROJECT FOLLOWS THE TDO DESIGN STANDARDS.

YOU WILL ALSO FIND AT YOUR PLACE AT THE DIAS, IT WAS PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DURING THEIR BRIEFING SESSION. TWO EXHIBITS.

THE 11 BY 17 EXHIBIT SHOWS THE SHEETS AS FAR TO THE SITE PLAN SET.

THERE'S CLARIFICATION AND WHAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU IN YOUR MAILED BACKUP PACKET.

WE COULDN'T SEE THE SYMBOLOGY ON ALL OF THE CAR PARKS, SO THIS CLEARLY DENOTES EACH OF THE PARKING SPACES WITHIN EACH OF THE GARAGE SPACES FOR A TOTAL OF 61 ONSITE PARKING SPACES.

ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED AN AGENDA MEMO AS CLARIFICATION FROM STAFF AND AN UPDATED CLARIFIED ORDINANCE.

THE INTENT OF THIS WAS TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE INTENDED USE OF THIS PROPERTY IS FOR RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOMES.

THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE ORDINANCE, AND THAT THE PROPERTY IS BEING REZONED TO THE OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR THE TOWNHOME USES ONLY.

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IF APPROVED, IT CLARIFIES THAT THE BASE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT USES AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WOULD NO LONGER BE ALLOWED IF THE ORDINANCE WERE TO BE APPROVED.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT, MR. GIBERSONS, RICHARD GIBERSON, IS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR TATE, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, AND CHAIRMAN OLIVER AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS RICHARD GIBERSON.

I LIVE AT 3828 KELSEY COURT HERE IN GRAPEVINE.

I REPRESENT THE OWNER DEVELOPER TEAM CONSISTING OF TWO LOCAL FAMILIES, RONDA AND WARD HAYWORTH AND LINDA AND RICHARD GIBERSON.

BOTH THE HAYWORTH AND THE GIBERSONS' HAVE LIVED IN GRAPEVINE FOR OVER 21 YEARS.

WE'RE HAPPY TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT.

IN 2008, RONDA AND WARD BEGAN INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY BY BUYING NEGLECTED PROPERTIES AND FIXING THEM UP, INCLUDING A COUPLE OF OLD HOUSES ON WALL STREET THAT THEY FIXED UP, CONVERTED INTO OFFICES.

ONE BY ONE, THEY ALSO PURCHASED SOME [INAUDIBLE] DECAYING HOUSES IN A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT OFF OF EAST NASH STREET.

THEY SAW A FUTURE FOR THIS PROPERTY THAT COULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY, THOUGH AT THE TIME, NOT A LOT OF GOOD WAS VISIBLE.

THIS WAS BEFORE THE REDEVELOPMENT ALONG DALLAS ROAD, BEFORE THE EXPANSION AND REORIENTATION OF THE WRECK, AND OUT OF TOWN OR WOULD HAVE LIKELY SCRAPED THE HOUSES AND WAITED UNTIL SOME FUTURE DAY TO REDEVELOP.

BUT RONDA AND WARD LIVE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

THEY WANTED TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT IMMEDIATELY, SO THEY FIXED UP THE HOMES TO MAKE RENTAL PROPERTIES AND THEY ARE ON THE SITE TODAY.

THEY ALWAYS KNEW THAT THE PROPERTY HAD A BIGGER FUTURE, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THEY COULD STILL ACTIVELY BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.

IN 2018, THE AREA 444 APARTMENTS, NOW THE AMLI GRAPEVINE APARTMENTS, OPENED JUST NORTH OF OUR PROPERTY.

WE KNEW THEN THAT TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS OUT OF THE QUESTION BECAUSE TYPICAL HOME BUYERS DON'T WANT A FOUR STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX OVERLOOKING THEIR BACKYARD.

WE KNEW THAT FRESH IDEAS WERE NEEDED.

THANKFULLY, OUR CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAD A VISION FOR WHAT THIS AREA OF OUR TOWN COULD BECOME.

FIVE YEARS AGO, IN FEBRUARY 2019, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE TRANSIT DISTRICT ORDINANCE THAT PROVIDED FOR DEVELOPMENT ALONG DALLAS ROAD CORRIDOR AND NEARBY PROPERTIES.

THE ORDINANCE ENCOURAGED DEVELOPMENT OF THE DISTRICT AS A UNIQUE, COMPACT, URBAN, WALKABLE PORTION OF OUR CITY WITH A WIDE RANGE OF USES, SO VERY DIFFERENT THAN OUR TYPICAL SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.

OPPORTUNITIES WERE NOW CLEAR FOR HOW OUR LAND AND OTHER LANDS IN THE DISTRICT COULD BE PRODUCTIVELY REDEVELOPED.

WE CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, OF COURSE, BUT THE SITE HAS A SIGNIFICANT DISADVANTAGE HERE.

THERE ARE 132 ACRES IN THE DISTRICT, AND ALMOST ALL OF THAT LAND HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO EITHER DALLAS ROAD, MAIN STREET, OR THE RAIL.

OURS DOES NOT, INSTEAD, WE'RE TUCKED AWAY ON THE EDGE OF THE DISTRICT.

THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT MAKE OUR PROPERTY NOT ADVANTAGEOUS FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT MAKES IT ADVANTAGEOUS FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

BUT IT HAS TO BE AN URBAN STYLE RESIDENTIAL AS CALLED FOR IN THE TRANSIT DISTRICT, OTHERWISE, IT CANNOT EXIST HAPPILY WITH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

OVER THREE YEARS AGO, THE SPECIFIC VISION FOR THE SITE BEGAN TO UNFOLD BASED ON THE LANGUAGE AND THE IDEALS IN THE TRANSIT DISTRICT.

WE WORKED WITH CITY PLANNING STAFF AND PUBLIC WORKS THROUGHOUT 2022 AND 23 TO REFINE THE PROJECT AND TO WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS THAT ALWAYS COME ABOUT WITH ANY INFILL REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

WE ALSO INCORPORATED INPUT FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN THE FINAL SUBMISSION THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

THIS IS THE PRODUCTIVE FUTURE OF WHAT THIS PROPERTY IS.

NASH AND BERRY IS FOUR BLOCKS OF FOR SALE URBAN TOWN HOMES, FACING OUT TO ENGAGE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, ARRANGED IN A PINWHEEL PATTERN AROUND A COMMON OR SHARED COURTYARD.

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STREETS ARE ON THREE SIDES WITH THE FORTH SIDE BEING A NEIGHBORING FIRE LANE.

THIS ALLOWS FOR EFFICIENT PLACEMENT OF THE HOMES FRONTING THE STREETS WITH GARAGE ACCESS AND VISITOR PARKING AND SHARED GREEN SPACE ON THE INTERIOR COURTYARD.

BEING SURROUNDED BY STREETS ALSO IMPOSES SIGNIFICANT RESPONSIBILITIES.

HOW WILL WE BUILD OUT THE STREETSCAPES FOR THE CITY? WHAT CHARACTER WILL WE PROVIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD? FOR EVERY THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF OUR OWN PROPERTY, WE ARE BUILDING ANOTHER 209 SQUARE FEET OF CITY STREETSCAPE WITH SIDEWALKS, TREES, BENCHES, OTHER LANDSCAPING.

WE WANT TO PROVIDE A COMFORTABLE AND INTERESTING WALK.

THOSE FIGURES DON'T COUNT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE INTERIOR COURTYARD OR THE STREETSCAPE AND SIDEWALK THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A COMPLETE PERIMETER SIDEWALK FOR THE SITE.

ALL OF THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT, IT'S ONE THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO MAKE BECAUSE IT'S KEY TO CREATING A VIBRANT WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WITH THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES, I'LL QUICKLY GIVE YOU A WALK AROUND THE PROPERTY AND THROUGH SO THAT YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC WILL ENJOY.

HERE YOU SEE COMING BACK FROM STELLINI, YOUR HOP AND STING, SO FROM THE NORTHWEST.

THE FIRE LANE IS ON THE LEFT AND JEAN STREET IS ALONG THE RIGHT, AND YOU MIGHT NOTICE THE TOP HALF FLOOR WITH ITS SLOPED METAL ROOFS.

IT'S SET BACK FROM THE PARAPET WALL SO THAT IF YOU'RE ON THE SIDEWALK RIGHT BELOW IT, YOU DON'T SEE THAT, BUT FROM HERE, WAYS BACK, WE CAN SEE IT.

NOW MOVING ALONG JEAN STREET, HERE YOU GET A VIEW OF THE HOMES ALONG JEAN STREET.

YOU SEE THE LARGE BAY WINDOWS.

YOU SEE THE STEPS LEAD UP TO THE MAIN ENTRIES FOR THESE HOMES.

THIS VIEW IS CROSSING JEAN STREET AT NASH, SO COMING BACK FROM THE WRECK.

YOU MIGHT NOTICE THERE'S A COUPLE UP ON A ROOFTOP TERRACE TAKING A SELFIE.

DOWN BELOW, THERE'S AN OPEN SPACE WITH THE SIDEWALK, GREAT SPOT FOR GATHERING TO CHAT WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR WHO'S WALKING THEIR DOG.

IF YOU CONTINUE EAST ALONG NASH STREET, YOU CAN STAY ON THE SIDEWALK ALONG NASH OR YOU CAN TAKE THE RAMP OR THE STEPS DOWN INTO THE PASEO.

THE PASEO IS A WIDE PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE THAT TAKES YOU INTO THE INTERIOR COURTYARD OF THE PROPERTY.

CENTRAL COURTYARD TREES AND SEATING PROVIDE A GREAT PLACE TO GATHER WITH FRIENDS ANY TIME OF DAY, AND THE SHADE FROM THE TOWN HOMES IS WELCOME RELIEF IN THE HOT SUMMER.

THEN HERE'S A VIEW FROM THE NORTH LAWN INTO THE CENTRAL COURTYARD.

ON THE LEFT IS A WALKWAY THAT RUNS ALONGSIDE AND SMALL PRIVATE LAWNS FOR THE BERRY STREET HOMES.

THEN ON THE RIGHT IS A SHARED LAWN, SOMEPLACE YOU MIGHT BRING YOUR GRANDKIDS DOWN TO PLAY.

NOW HERE'S THE SITE MAP TO TIE THAT ALL TOGETHER.

FOUR BLOCKS OF HOMES FACING OUT TO INTERACT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PERIMETER LANDSCAPING ALL AROUND AND IN THE CENTRAL COURTYARD.

AUTOMOBILE ACCESS IS FROM JEAN STREET IN AND THEN EXITING OUT ONTO BERRY STREET.

DEDICATED PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IS FROM THE SOUTH THROUGH THE WIDE PASEO OR THROUGH THE NORTH WITH THE WALKWAY ADJACENT TO THE LAWN.

I HOPE YOU'RE CATCHING THE VISION OF THE SITE, HOW IT CREATES WALKABLE STREETSCAPES ON ALL SIDES, HOW IT PROVIDES A NICE TRANSITION FROM THE LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX TO THE NORTH TO THE WRECK AND THE OPEN SPACES TO THE SOUTH.

ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NOT SEE AFTER CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE, YOU WILL NOT SEE A BIG SIGN SAYING NASH AND BERRY TOWNHOMES.

YOU MAY LIVE AT 967 JEAN STREET, A BLOCK SOUTH OF STELLINI.

I MAY LIVE AT 3903 EAST NASH ACROSS FROM THE REC SOCCER PITCH.

OUR LOCATION AND THE ARCHITECTURE IS GOING TO MAKE THIS A SPECIAL PLACE.

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WE DON'T NEED TO ATTACH SOME VANITY LABEL TO IT.

THAT SAID, WE APPRECIATE THE LONG HISTORY OF GRAPEVINE, AND WE WANT TO DOCUMENT OUR PART IN THAT HISTORY.

WE WILL INCLUDE A DISCRETE CORNERSTONE SOMEWHERE ON THE PROPERTY TO MARK OUR PLACE IN HISTORY OF GRAPEVINE.

BEYOND THE CREATIVE SITE PLAN AND THE FRIENDLY INTERFACE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE HOMES THAT WILL SET THEM APART FROM ANYTHING ELSE AVAILABLE IN GRAPEVINE OR IN THE SURROUNDING CITIES.

WE STUDIED EXAMPLES FROM CLASSIC URBAN TOWN HOMES FROM THE LATE 1800S, EARLY 1900S.

ALSO, WE TOOK INSPIRATION FROM GRAPEVINE MAIN AND THE HOTEL VIN, ESPECIALLY THE CRAFTSMANSHIP, THE BRICKWORK, THE TILE WORK.

THERE'S AN OVERALL UNITY TO OUR SITE, THOUGH THE FOUR BLOCKS OF HOMES EACH HAVE THEIR OWN UNIQUE CHARACTER.

SUBTLE DETAILING IN THE CRAFT WORK WILL DISTINGUISH EACH HOME EVEN FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

FOR EXAMPLE, VARYING BRICKWORK PATTERNS, MANY OF WHICH ARE SEEN IN OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT CAN BE USED TO PROVIDE A UNIQUE SIGNATURE FOR EACH HOME.

DALLAS ROAD AND THE RAIL CORRIDOR CAN BECOME AN IMPORTANT ENGINE FOR COMMERCIAL GROWTH IN GRAPEVINE FOR MANY YEARS TO COME IF THOUGHTFULLY REDEVELOPED.

OUR PROPERTY SITS AT THE EDGE OF THE DISTRICT REMOVED FROM THE PRIME COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ALONG DALLAS ROAD.

YET WE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE FUTURE GROWTH BY BUILDING HIGH QUALITY URBAN HOMES THAT COMPLEMENT THE DISTRICT THAT ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT INSPIRE QUALITY IN THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO COME.

GRAPEVINE HAS BENEFITED FROM VISIONARY LEADERS THROUGHOUT IT'S HISTORY.

THE IMPACT OF DFW AIRPORT, THE PRESERVATION OF OUR HISTORIC MAIN STREET, OUR DESTINATION, HOTELS, OUR PARKS AND TRAILS.

ALL THESE ARE EXAMPLES.

GRAPEVINES ACCOMPLISHMENTS REQUIRE CITY LEADERSHIP AND ALSO GRASSROOTS FRONT LINE DOORS THAT ARE OUT THERE MAKING THE CITY BETTER WHERE THEY LIVE AND WHERE THEY WORK.

GRAPEVINE NEEDS VISIONARY DEVELOPMENT THAT BOTH HONORS THE PAST AND ANTICIPATES THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR VISIONARY LEADERSHIP, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE NATIONAL BERRY PROJECT.

>> QUESTIONS FOR MR. [INAUDIBLE].

>> I'M LOOKING AT A211.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A RENDERING.

WHEN YOU GO INTO THE COURTYARD AREA AND THE BACK DOOR SITUATION, IS THAT JUST THE GARAGE DOORS? IS THAT THE ONLY BACK DOOR?

>> FOR THE HOMES? IT VARIES SOMEWHAT.

SOME OF THEM HAVE BOTH A GARAGE DOOR AND A HUMAN DOOR BESIDE THEM.

SOME OF THEM ONLY HAVE THE GARAGE DOOR SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MIX THERE.

>> SO WHAT WOULD TRASH COLLECTION BE LIKE?

>> LET ME JUST BRING UP A SITE.

SO ONE SIDE BENEFIT OF THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE IS IT ACTUALLY FURTHER SIMPLIFIED THE TRASH PICKUP.

BACK IN NOVEMBER WHEN WE SPOKE, WE HAD A TRASH PICKUP PLAN THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND WITH THE SERVICER.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE HOMES THAT WERE REMOVED WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE, IT ACTUALLY SIMPLIFIED FURTHER.

SO FOR BLOCK A AND FOR THREE OF THE HOMES IN BLOCK D, THEIR TRASH PICKUP BINS ARE RIGHT THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BLOCK D. AS A TRASH TRUCK COMES IN FROM JEAN STREET, THEY WOULD IMMEDIATELY BE PICKING UP ALL OF THOSE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.

NOW, THE OTHER BLOCK D HOMES AND THE BLOCK C HOMES, THEIR BINS ARE GOING TO BE BASICALLY AT THE BACK OF THE DRIVEWAYS ALONG BLOCK C. BLOCK B IS THE ONE THAT IS DIFFERENT.

THEIR PICKUP IS STREET SIDE ON BERRY JUST LIKE NORMAL RESIDENTIAL HOMES SO THE TRASH TRUCK NO LONGER HAS TO DO A REVERSE OR A BACKUP.

THEY CAN JUST TAKE ONE SIMPLE LINE THROUGH AND THAT WAS A SIDE EFFECT OF SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE.

>> THAT'S GOOD.

>> THANK YOU.

>> QUESTIONS?

>> I'VE GOT A QUESTION. ON THIS SIDE PLAN, IS THIS JUST ONE WAY THE TRAFFIC COMING FROM JEAN STREET AND THEN OUT THROUGH BERRY?

>> YES. NOW, OBVIOUSLY, WITHIN THE SITE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOUR HOME IS LOT 13, YOU DRIVE DOWN THE PASEO TO PARK IN YOUR DRIVEWAY OR GARAGE, YOU WOULD DRIVE BACK UP THAT PASEO AREA TO GET BACK OUT.

BUT IN TERMS OF ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE SURROUNDING STREETS, IT'S ALL IN FROM JEAN OUT ON BERRY.

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>> OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> NO.

>> NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I KNOW IT WAS PROBABLY A DISAPPOINTMENT IN NOVEMBER, BUT I THINK YOU'VE REALLY WORKED HARD TO MAKE SOME REALLY GOOD CHANGES TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED IN THE TRANSIT DISTRICT, AND I LIKE THE CHANGES YOU'VE MADE IN THE OPEN SPACE AND THE TRIBUTE TO SOME OF THE HISTORY OF GRAPEVINE.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME AND LISTENING. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT.

THIS TABLE HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE IMPACT ON THE PARKING.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE HEARD LAST TIME AROUND WAS VISITOR PARKING WAS INSUFFICIENT AND SOME PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED THAT THEIR FRIENDS WEREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME VISIT THEM.

WE ADDRESSED THAT HEAD-ON.

WHEREAS BEFORE WE HAD 13 VISITOR PARKING SPOTS, NOW WE HAVE 27 VISITOR PARKING SPOTS AND THAT'S WITH TWO FEWER HOMES.

WE HEARD THAT AND WE ADDRESSED THAT HEAD-ON.

>> YOU JUST CALLED ME OUT THERE, DIDN'T YOU? [LAUGHTER] I THINK I WAS THE ONE THAT SAID THAT.

BUT I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER FREED SAID, I THINK YOU WERE DISAPPOINTED IN NOVEMBER, BUT YOU LISTENED TO WHAT WE HAD TO SAY, AND YOU MADE SOME REALLY GOOD CHANGES, AND I THINK THE PROJECT IS BETTER THAN IT WAS IN NOVEMBER, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> NO, I AGREE. I MEAN, ONE OF THE OTHER CONCERNS WE HEARD WAS THAT THE COURTYARD FELT A LITTLE BIT TIGHT.

NOW WITH THE PASEOS EVEN WIDER, WE WERE ABLE TO ADD THE LAWN SPACE UP ON THE NORTH REALLY OPENS UP THAT COURTYARD AREA, IT FEELS MORE INVITING, MORE WELCOMING, MORE FUNCTIONAL.

WHILE WE'RE STILL ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT STRONG ARCHITECTURAL PRESENCE ON ALL FOUR SIDES, WHICH WAS IMPORTANT TO THE VISION, AND ALSO STILL PROVIDE THAT PROTECTIVE CENTER COURTYARD.

BUT YEAH, WE FEEL THAT IT ENDS UP BETTER FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, BETTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BETTER FOR THE CITY.

>> YOU MIGHT HAVE A JOB IN PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.

YOU MAY BE OUT FOR HIRE NOW.

[LAUGHTER]

>> I JUST WANT TO REITERATE.

I LIKED THE PLAN IN THE BEGINNING.

VISUALLY, I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO BE SUCH A GREAT ADDITION TO THAT WHOLE AREA.

VISUALLY, I REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION THE FIRST GO-ROUND, BUT I APPRECIATED THE CONCERNS ABOUT DENSITY.

SOMETIMES IT JUST TAKES TIME.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE BEST PRODUCT OUT THERE BUT WHEN YOU GO BACK AND THEN YOU SEE THE CHANGES YOU'VE MADE, I THINK IT'S EVEN BETTER THAN IT WAS.

I KNOW YOU LOST TWO UNITS, BUT STILL, THIS IS GOING TO BE JUST A BEAUTIFUL ADDITION TO THAT AREA.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE REALLY GOING TO ENJOY LIVING THERE.

THANKS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK TO GO BACK AND MAKE THAT WORKOUT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> LET ME ECHO THANKS AS WELL FOR THE TIME, NOT ONLY TAKING THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU HEARD IN THE MEETING BUT MEETING WITH A LOT OF US OVER TIME AND HEARING DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND INCORPORATING THAT INTO A PLAN.

I THINK LIKEWISE, YOU'VE ENDED UP WITH A BETTER PRODUCT FOR EVERYBODY.

>> I THINK THE MARKETABILITY OF IT WILL BE MUCH BETTER AND GREATER WITH THE CHANGES YOU HAVE MADE. IT'LL BE MORE APPEALING.

I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. THE BUILDING THAT I'M LOOKING AT IS LOVELY.

ARE ALL OF THE BUILDINGS GOING TO HAVE THIS FACADE ON THEM?

>> THIS IS THE JEAN STREET FACE.

THE NASH STREET FACE BUILDINGS, THERE'S FOUR HOMES ON THAT FACE.

IT'S A VERY SIMILAR LOOK TO THIS ONE.

THOSE TWO, THE JEAN AND THE NASH ARE VERY SIMILAR IN THEIR LOOK AND FEEL.

THE OTHER TWO ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

THE ONES FACING THE NORTH THAT ARE LOOKING INTO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT LOOK AND FEEL.

IT'S HARD TO SEE HERE, BUT THEY HAVE A COVERED FRONT PATIO AREA AND THEN STEPS THAT GO UP AND WIND BACK ON TOP OF THAT PATIO AREA.

FROM THE MAIN FLOOR, THEY HAVE AN OUTDOOR SITTING AREA, LIKE FOR BREAKFAST AREA, AND THEN BELOW THAT IS A COVERED AREA THAT'S COMING OFF OF THE GROUND FLOOR SUITE.

IT'S A REALLY NICE SETUP THERE AND REALLY DESIGNED FOR THAT NORTH FACE AND WHERE THEY HAVE THE APARTMENT BLOCK IS RIGHT ACROSS THE WAY, SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT CONDITION.

>> THEY COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER, BUT THEY'RE NOT COOKIE-CUTTER, WHICH IS NICE.

>> CORRECT.

>> I THINK THE OWNERS WILL LIKE THAT.

>> THE FACADE IS ALL BRICK.

>> YEAH, BRICK.

>> THESE RENDERINGS DEPICT WHAT YOUR PROJECT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

THESE RENDERINGS WERE MADE TO SHOW US WHAT YOUR PROJECT IS GOING TO BE, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S THE INTENT. I MEAN, BRICK COLOR IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE, THE DETAILS, BUT THIS IS THE INTENT.

>> WHERE I'M HEADED WITH THIS IS SINCE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED TO US AS YOUR PROJECT, THEN I PRESUME THAT YOU WOULD NOT OBJECT TO THIS BEING INCORPORATED AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT\,

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THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT TONIGHT.

>> YEAH. I DON'T KNOW.

>> THAT MEANS YOU GOT TO BUILD WHAT YOU SHOW US YOU'RE DOING.

>> WELL, WE HAVE NO INTENT TO CHANGE THE PLAN THAT THE ARCHITECT HAS DEVELOPED.

>> WE'VE HAD IT OCCUR WHEN WE'VE CHANGED ZONING BEFORE AND WE DID NOT GET ANYTHING THAT LOOKED LIKE WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE.

IT'S NOT A DISTRUST THING.

THIS IS A NORMAL QUESTION THAT I ASK IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.

I MEAN NO DISRESPECT AT ALL TO YOU, SIR.

THESE BUILDINGS LOOK REALLY NICE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE MADE ENOUGH ADJUSTMENTS TO GET APPROVED THIS TIME.

WE'LL SEE, BUT YOU CERTAINLY HAVE WORKED WITH US TO OVERCOME THE OBJECTIONS WE HAD.

I REGRET PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION, THOUGH.

YOU CRITICIZE SAYS THAT THIS PROPERTY OWNED BY YOUR CLIENTS WAS NOT SUBJECT FIT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY ANYMORE.

YOU STILL GOT SOME SINGLE-FAMILY IN THE AREA, I WONDER WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO FEEL ABOUT YOUR PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET.

I DON'T LIKE TO HEAR PEOPLE PUT OTHER PEOPLE DOWN.

ALSO, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT OWN APARTMENTS IN THAT AREA THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT.

WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO THINK ABOUT THAT? I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE DEGRADING PEOPLE BECAUSE OF WHAT TYPE OF FACILITY THEY LIVE IN.

I REGRET THOSE STATEMENTS.

>> OH, THAT WAS CERTAINLY NOT MY INTENT.

I HAVE NO BIAS AGAINST APARTMENTS OR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

I JUST IN THE MARKETPLACE, YOU SEE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONCERNS WHEN APARTMENTS WERE PROPOSED NEAR THEIR PROPERTY.

>> WE'RE PROUD OF ALL OF OUR CITIZENS REGARDLESS OF WHAT KIND OF HOUSE THEY LIVE IN, THAT'S THE POINT I'M MAKING, OKAY?

>> YEAH, ALL RIGHT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> POINT WELL TAKEN.

>> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> YES, SIR. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER.

>> OKAY.

>> JERRY DREW 932 JEAN STREET.

>> WELL, AFTER SUCH A PRESENTATION, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE NEED TO SAY, BUT I OWN THE PROPERTY, THE RED BRICK COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE, THE SMALL ONE ACROSS THE STREET ON JEAN STREET.

WE'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT 12 YEARS.

MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN CITIZENS HERE IN GRAPEVINE FOR 22 YEARS.

WE LOVE THE COMMUNITY, BY THE WAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRAYER AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

WE KNOW HOW RARE THAT IS BECOMING IN THE UNITED STATES ANYMORE, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT WAS TOUCHING.

I DON'T GET TO SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE VERY OFTEN SO THANK YOU.

WE COMPLETELY APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT RICK AND COMPANY HAVE PUT INTO THE PLAN.

THEY'VE BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING.

THEY'VE COME BY SEVERAL TIMES.

WE'VE ASKED A LOT OF THE SAME QUESTIONS, WHAT ABOUT TRAFFIC, WHICH WE DON'T SEE THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY IMPACT, CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S ON JEAN STREET ALREADY GOING TO AND FROM THE REC CENTER.

THEY'VE TALKED TO US ABOUT THE FACADES.

THEY'VE TALKED TO US ABOUT PARKING.

WE'RE IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS A FANTASTIC PROJECT.

ONLY ONE THING OF COURSE THAT HAPPENS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN A GREAT PROJECT LIKE THIS GOES IN, AND THAT'S ALL OF OUR TAXES GO UP.

[LAUGHTER] THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT HASN'T BEEN SAID.

WE'RE IN 100% AGREEMENT THIS IS A FANTASTIC PROJECT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE? ANY [INAUDIBLE].

>> NO, SIR.

>> [OVERLAPPING] WE HAD A LETTER OF SUPPORT.

>> YES, THERE ARE THREE LETTERS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT.

>> GET A MOTION TO CLOSE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO CLOSE.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

THAT COMPLETES OUR JOINT MEETINGS.

THE COMMISSION WILL SEPARATE NOW INTO PUBLIC MEETINGS.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO ATTEND.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY HERE WITH US ON OUR AGENDA.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.