Nov 21, 2023 Regular City Council & Joint Planning and Zoning Commission

ARE YOU READY? I'M READY.

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[CALL TO ORDER]

[1. Invocation and Pledge of Allegiance: Council Member Paul Slechta]

LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER THIS EVENING AND THAT WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH US TONIGHT, SO OUR THOUGHTS AND WORDS WILL BEST SERVE THE CITIZENS OF GRAPEVINE. WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH THE FIRST RESPONDERS IN THE MILITARY, BOTH HERE AND ABROAD.

PLEASE WATCH OVER EVERYONE DURING THANKSGIVING AS THEY ENJOY THEIR TIME WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY.

IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN. AMEN. AMEN.

YOU WANT ME TO PLEDGE? PLEDGE.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU ALL TO OUR MEETING TONIGHT.

WE HAVE TEN JOINT PUBLIC HEARINGS BETWEEN THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL, WHICH IS AN UNUSUALLY HEAVY DOCKET FOR US. AND BEFORE WE DO, I INDICATED I WAS GOING TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT ZONING.

IF YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTRY, YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT TO WITH YOUR PROPERTY AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORS.

BUT WHEN YOU LIVE IN A CITY, FOR EVERYBODY TO COEXIST AND FOR THERE BE SOME CONTINUITY, THERE HAS TO BE A PLAN FOR LAND USE AND ZONING ORDINANCES AND SOME REGULATION OF IT.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T IS CHAOS.

WE HAD AN ORDINANCE BACK WHEN THE AIRPORT OPENED THAT ALLOWED MULTIFAMILY BE BUILT IN ANY SINGLE FAMILY ZONING CASE.

IF YOU GO IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, YOU SEE ALL THESE SMALL APARTMENT HOUSES THAT GOT BUILT AS A MATTER OF RIGHT, WHICH.

A STANDOUT IS POOR ZONING.

I THINK EVERYBODY CAN SEE THOSE WERE MISTAKES.

BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY REGULATION.

AND WHEN WE REALIZE WHAT WAS WAS HAPPENING WITH THE NEW ZONING ORDINANCE, WE GOT THAT CHANGED.

BUT BEFORE IT HAPPENED, THERE WAS DAMAGE THAT'S TAKEN 50 YEARS.

HOPEFULLY THE VALUES OF THOSE LANDS.

WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THOSE OWNERS WANTING TO TEAR THOSE DOWN AND BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

SO IT'S ONE OF MY HOPES THAT WE OUTGROW THAT SOMEDAY.

BUT THERE'S A PURPOSE FOR ZONING.

ZONING. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO PLAN OUT WHAT THE USE OF PROPERTY THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS, AND WE'VE HAD ONE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

THAT MAP SOMETIMES CHANGES BECAUSE TRADITIONS AND CHANGES AND TRENDS CHANGE OVER THE COURSE OF TIME THAT DICTATE CHANGES, BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REVIEW IT AND CHANGE THE MAP AND NOT JUST CHANGE IT.

ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, A ZONING ORDINANCE IS DESIGNED TO CONTROL DENSITY AND OTHER CONSTRUCTION WITHIN LAND USE, SO THAT A PERSON'S DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT UNREASONABLY AFFECT OR NEGATIVELY AFFECT THEIR NEIGHBOR.

AS PROPERTY VALUES HAVE INCREASED, WE HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE THAT TRY TO BRING DEVELOPMENTS THAT EXCEED THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCE OR DON'T ARE IN CONFLICT WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE, TRYING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A PROFIT OUT OF THE PROFIT.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHY ZONING WORKS.

LAND PRICE DOES NOT DICTATE LAND USE.

THE THE LAND USE PROGRAMS WE'VE HAD IN THE ZONING THAT HAS BEEN CONDUCTED OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS.

IT GIVES YOU THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE TODAY THAT PEOPLE SEEM TO ADMIRE AND APPRECIATE LIVING HERE.

AND TO CONTINUE THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A ZONING ORDINANCE THAT PEOPLE ABIDE BY.

WE CAN'T LET PROPERTY OWNERS DICTATE WHAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE WILL BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

SO ZONING IS NOT A POPULARITY CONTEST.

IT'S NOT A GOOD OLD BOY CONTEST.

IT'S A PART OF A PREDETERMINED PLAN.

AND IT'S DESIGNED TO HAVE CONTINUITY WHERE LAND USE ALL FITS TOGETHER AND DOESN'T AFFECT UNREASONABLY OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.

THAT'S THE PRICE WE PAY LIVING IN A CITY.

SO AS WE GO THROUGH THE ZONING TONIGHT, WE THE PROCEDURE WILL BE WE WILL DECLARE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON EACH ZONING CASE. WE'LL ASK THE STAFF TO INTRODUCE THE REQUEST THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS MADE.

WE'LL GIVE THE APPLICANT A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

AND THEN ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THAT CASE WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

YOU HAVE TO SIGN A FORM WITH THE CITY SECRETARY.

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THIS IS A PROCEEDING.

IT'S NOT A AND WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN ORDER.

SO I DON'T WANT ANY DEMONSTRATION.

I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO MAKE COMMENTS OR TO CLAP BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET THAT ON THE RECORD.

WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IS ORAL TESTIMONY.

IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, WE'LL RECOGNIZE YOU.

AND THEN WE CAN CARD THAT AND EVALUATE IT AND MAKE IT USE IT AS PART OF OUR EVALUATION.

WE HAVE 30 PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP ALREADY TO SPEAK.

YOU'LL EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, AND WE ASK YOU TO TO TRY TO STAY WITHIN THAT TIME PERIOD.

WE DON'T HAVE A TIMER.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO EMBARRASS YOU.

WE JUST ASK YOU TO CONTROL IT YOURSELF AND TO NOT SPEND A LOT OF TIME DUPLICATING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE MAY BE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE SAID, SO WE CAN GET THROUGH IN A REASONABLE HOUR AND NOT UNREASONABLY, AFFECT THOSE THAT ARE DOWN THE LINE THAT ARE GOING TO GET TO SPEAK LATER.

SO WE WANT YOU TO BE A PART OF YOUR GOVERNMENT TONIGHT.

WE WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROCEDURE WORKS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SOME GOOD DECISIONS.

AND IF YOU WORK WITH ME AND AND WE CAN MAINTAIN ORDER AND HAVE A PROPER PROCEDURE IN EACH OF THESE CASES TONIGHT, THEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

SO I INVITE YOU TO BE A PART OF YOUR GOVERNMENT TONIGHT, AND WE'LL BEGIN BY OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH I THINK IS ALREADY OPENED ON

[2. Zoning Change Application Z23-03 (Grapevine Springs), Planned Development Overlay PD23-02, and Final Plat for Lots 1-32, 33X, Block 1, Grapevine Springs and Lot 1R, Block 1R, Grapevine Office Park – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by H Creek Development requesting to rezone 11.248 acres from “PO”, Professional Office District and “CC”, Community Commercial District to “R-7.5”, Single-Family District and “R-5.0”, Zero-Lot-Line District with a planned development overlay to develop 32 single-family detached lots and one open space/common area lot. The planned development overlay is to allow for private streets in a single-family/zero-lot-line residential development and for a reduction in minimum lot area, minimum lot depth, and front-yard building setbacks for the “R-5.0”, Zero-Lot Line lots. The applicant is also requesting a replat of Lot 1, Block 1, Grapevine Office Park. The subject property is located at 1600 West Northwest Highway. The public hearing for this item was opened and tabled at the October 17, 2023 meeting.]

Z 20 3-3, WHICH WAS OPENED AT A PREVIOUS MEETING AND CONTINUED.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN AND ON OVERLAY.

PD 20 3-2 AND FINAL PLAT.

SO LOT ONE THROUGH 3233.

BLOCK ONE OF THE GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

LOT ONE OR BLOCK ONE OR GRAPEVINE OFFICE PARK.

THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS TABLED ON OCTOBER 17TH.

SO, ERIC MAROHNIC, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE THE REQUEST THAT'S BEING MADE? THANK YOU. HONORABLE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ZONE CHANGE TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 11.24 ACRES FROM A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE DISTRICT AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO THE R SEVEN AND A HALF SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AND R 5.00 LOT LINE DISTRICT FOR THE INTENT PURPOSE OF DEVELOPING 32 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS AT TWO DIFFERENT DISTRICT STANDARDS.

THE DENSITY FOR THIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS 2.84 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY IS TO ALLOW FOR PRIVATE STREETS IN A SINGLE FAMILY ZERO LOT LINE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND FOR A REDUCTION IN MINIMUM LOT AREA, A REDUCTION IN MINIMUM LOT DEPTH, AND A REDUCTION IN FRONT YARD SETBACKS FOR THE 8R5 .00 LOT LINE LOTS, WHICH IS SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

ACCESS TO THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS THROUGH THE EXISTING PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL OFFICE TO THE SOUTH THROUGH EXISTING DRIVEWAYS WITH PUBLIC ACCESS ALONG WEST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY. THE LOTS IN THIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION WILL BE ON A PRIVATE STREET, WHICH WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AS 31FT WIDE BACK OF CURB TO BACK OF CURB FOR THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY.

THE FRONT YARD SETBACKS ARE REQUESTED TO BE REDUCED FROM 25FT, WHICH IS THE MINIMUM IN THE R 5.0 DISTRICT TO 9.5FT TO THE NEAREST POINT OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN A 19.5FT SETBACK TO THE GARAGE.

THE DECREASE IN MINIMUM LOT AREA IS FROM 5000FT² TO 4500FT², AND THE DECREASE IN THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH IS FROM 100FT TO 90FT. ALL OTHER BLOCK DIMENSIONAL AND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE BASE DISTRICT STANDARDS.

ALL RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ARE PROPOSED TO BE DESIGNED WITH FRONT ENTRY GARAGES AND WILL TYPICALLY BE TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT.

THE DEVELOPER IS ALSO PROPOSING 29 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES SHOWN THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE PRIVATE STREET.

THE SUBJECT TRACT IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN ANY OF WITHIN ANY OF THE NOISE ZONES AS DEFINED IN THE AIRCRAFT SOUND EXPOSURE MAP AND MAP TO LAND USE PLAN, WHICH IS OUR CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP, DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS COMMERCIAL LOW INTENSITY FUTURE LAND USE.

CITY STAFF HAS RECEIVED 26 OFFICIAL RESPONSES TO THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION AS OF YESTERDAY AT 5 P.M.

THIS ACCOUNTS FOR 43.77% OF THE LAND AREA WITHIN THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST, SO A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE WILL BE REQUIRED.

THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

THE DEVELOPER IS PRESENT TO PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE RELATIVE TO THE REQUEST.

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GOOD EVENING, P AND Z CHAIRMAN OLIVER.

MY NAME IS ETHAN MARCUS, 604 EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.

TONIGHT I'M PRESENTING GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

GRAPEVINE SPRINGS IS 11.28 ACRES.

WE HAVE NORTHWEST HIGHWAY TO OUR SOUTH.

DOVE ROAD, LOCAL STREET TO OUR EAST.

THIS IS INGRESS EGRESS AND FITS WITH THE PLAN THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE COMING UP.

CURRENTLY WE ARE ZONED PROFESSIONAL OFFICE ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ON THE SOUTHERN PART.

I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT PRIMARILY, AS YOU'LL SEE IN ONE OF THE UPCOMING SLIDES, THIS PROPERTY IS ONE OF A KIND AND PROBABLY THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY IN TOWN.

THE REASON THAT WE FELL IN LOVE WITH IT IS BECAUSE THE TREES AND THE CREEK, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

WITH THE CURRENT ZONING DESIGNATIONS, THERE IS AN ALLOWABLE 80% OF TREE COVERAGE THAT CAN BE REMOVED.

AND AS I'VE READ THROUGH EVERY LETTER OF OPPOSITION AND EVERY COMMENT, IT FOCUSES ON HIGH DENSITY AND TREES.

SO OUR NUMBER ONE THING, AND I'VE LEFT IT UP HERE, IS TO SHOW WHAT 80% OF TREE REMOVAL LOOKS LIKE ON THIS GEM OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WITH RESIDENTIAL, WE CAN ONLY BE ALLOWED TO REMOVE 50% AND WE PLAN ON DOING LESS THAN THAT.

SO I'M SURE I'LL HEAR A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT TREES, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND POINT THAT OUT THAT THAT HAS BEEN OUR FOCUS FROM DAY ONE.

HERE'S THE PLAN.

THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT LOT TYPES.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE 2021.

THE PHOTO THAT'S IN THIS SLIDE IS FROM 2021.

THIS PLAN HAS HAD MANY, MANY RENDITIONS.

AND I WANT TO JUST SAY GRAPEVINE STAFF HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE.

FERRIS BRANCH CREEK IS PRETTY CHANNELIZED.

THE DARKER GREEN IS WHAT'S CONSIDERED FLOODPLAIN.

BEEN ASKED. WELL, ALL YOUR COMMON AREAS FLOOD PLAIN.

THAT'S INCORRECT. WE HAVE 4.4 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, WHICH AGAIN IN A COMMERCIAL APPLICATION INFRASTRUCTURE COULD BE PLACED TO COVER UP SOME OF THAT CREEK.

AND THAT IS NOT OUR INTENTION NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.

THE FLOODPLAIN IS ONLY 1.14 ACRES OF THAT 4.4.

THIS IS A PICTURE TAKEN IN THE FALL OF 2021, TWO YEARS AGO, OVER TWO YEARS AGO.

THIS IS WHEN R&D IS AND THE CONCEPT OF GRAPEVINE SPRINGS STARTED.

TO OUR WEST, WE HAVE OUR 70 FOOT LOTS.

ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE CREEK.

WE HAVE AGAIN, THESE ARE 65, BUT THESE DO FIT WITHIN THE ARE 7.5 ORDNANCE TO OUR SOUTH.

IN BETWEEN PARKING STRUCTURES AND OVERHANGS WE ARE APPROXIMATELY THREE FEET BELOW THAT PARKING LOT.

AND THESE ARE OUR FIVE HOMES.

THESE OUR TYPICAL LOT DETAILS.

THIS IS OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME COMMENTS THAT I'VE SEEN ABOUT TREES BEING MARKED FOR REMOVAL, AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

EVERY SINGLE TREE ON THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN MARKED.

I'VE PERSONALLY COUNTED THEM AT LEAST TWO TIMES, AND I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU IT'S AT LEAST 350 TREES CONSERVATIVELY SAVED.

AN EXAMPLE ON THE TOP LEFT IS A CONCEPT OF A HOME THAT WOULD BE IN BETWEEN A PARKING LOT AND A STREET ON A 50 FOOT LOT.

THESE ARE THE TRADITIONAL GRAPEVINE VERNACULARS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH.

AN EXAMPLE OF A 65 FOOT LOT.

NOT SAYING THAT THIS EXACT HOME WILL BE BUILT.

IT'S A HOME THAT WE'VE BUILT IN ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ZONED R 75, AND THE TWO BOTTOM HOUSES, WHICH ARE BRAND NEW DESIGNS, WOULD FIT ON THAT WESTERN SIDE WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS COULD FIT WITHIN THERE.

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THESE ARE ALL THREE OF THOSE HOUSES SIDE BY SIDE.

THIS IS ACCURATE AND TO SCALE WITH THE TREES PER THE TREE SURVEY OF AN AERIAL VIEW FROM THE WEST.

LOOKING BACK TO THE NORTH, ONE OF THE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION SAID THAT PATIENTS WILL BE STRESSED OUT BECAUSE THEY WILL LOSE THEIR TREE COVERAGE.

AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S 380FT FROM THAT BUILDING TO THE BACKYARDS OF THESE HOMES THAT WILL BE LEFT UNDISTURBED AND UNTOUCHED.

THIS IS ALSO A WORST CASE SCENARIO IN EVERY SINGLE LOT.

BOXED UP TWO STORIES.

ABSOLUTE WORST CASE.

MAXED OUT. SAME THING TO SCALE.

EVERY SINGLE HOUSE IS DRAWN IN A TWO STORY CONFIGURATION TO SHOW WORST CASE SCENARIO, THE RETAINING WALL TO THE NORTH IS ACCURATE.

THIS IS DONE FOR GRADING PLAN.

THIS IS FROM THE SOUTH AND NORTH NORTHWEST HIGHWAY LOOKING TO THE NORTH AGAIN.

TREES ARE ACCURATE.

STREETSCAPE. ON THE SOUTH SIDE YOU HAVE THE FIVE LOTS ON THE LEFT AND YOU HAVE THE 65 FOOT LOTS ON THE RIGHT.

THIS IS, I'M GOING TO POINT OUT A MISTAKE HERE THAT WE'RE MISSING THE SIDEWALK.

BUT THIS IS TO SCALE.

THE SIDEWALK WOULD GO THERE, BUT THESE ARE THE LOTS THAT WILL BE FACING TO THE NORTH, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE WINDOWS AND FENESTRATION ON THESE HOUSES WILL BE FACING THE CREEK, WHICH IS THE GEM OF THIS AREA, NOT TO THE NORTH.

ANOTHER VIEW ZOOMED IN, JUST SHOWING THE TREE COVERAGE THAT DOES AND WILL REMAIN.

AND THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF OUR PROJECT.

AND I'LL STAND BY. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

BUSH. MR..

YES, SIR. IF YOU WOULD.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY.

SO WE DO HAVE A PROTECTED LIGHT AT GRAPEVINE SPRINGS, AND I'LL SURE, THIS WILL BE A LOT OF THE COMMENTS, REGARDLESS OF COMMERCIAL, WHETHER THIS IS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL, THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS WOULD REMAIN THE SAME.

THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION PRIOR ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT WHERE THE GREAT GRAPEVINE SPRINGS LIGHT COMES DEAD END.

MY BELIEF IS THE FACT THAT THEY'VE LEFT THEMSELVES OPTIONS.

SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO WAYS WE WOULD COME IN, LET ME GO ALL THE WAY BACK.

I'M SORRY, SORT OF EXPLAINING THIS.

LET ME JUST SHOW YOU.

SO AT THAT KIND OF THREE WAY ROUNDABOUT RIGHT THERE, COMMISSIONER LURES THE THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT ROUNDABOUT WILL BE REDONE.

SO THE MAJORITY OF THAT TRAFFIC WILL COME IN AT THE PROTECTED LIGHT OR LEAVE AT THE PROTECTED LIGHT AT GRAPEVINE SPRINGS, WHICH IS A UNIQUE SITUATION THAT THERE IS COMMERCIAL THERE ABSOLUTELY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE BRIDGE AND RETAINING WALL STRUCTURE ON THE SOUTHWEST THAT EXISTS WAS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE, WHICH WOULD BE A LOOP STREET AS WELL, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL.

THE OTHER TRAFFIC ON SCOTTY DRIVE COMING OUT TO THE SOUTH ON THE EAST SIDE, THERE IS ALSO A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT OR WILL BE PLATTED AS A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WAY AS WELL.

SO TRAFFIC PRIMARILY WOULD COME TO GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

THERE'S NO PARKING LOTS THERE.

AND THEN THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED WAS, OR MAYBE IT WAS A CONCERN WAS GOING EAST OR WEST THROUGH A PARKING LOT.

WHAT I THINK IS THERE WAS THREE OPTIONS SET UP FOR THE FUTURE, THE FUTURE OF THIS PROPERTY.

AND WE CHOSE TO KEEP IT AS A LOOP.

AND WE ALSO CHOSE THE THING THAT WOULD KEEP AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE, QUITE FRANKLY.

AND THAT WAS A REALLY LONG ANSWER.

BUT OUR TRAFFIC PATTERNS WILL BASICALLY BE A BIG LOOP AROUND THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

ON THE ON THE HOUSE RENDERINGS.

AND I KNOW YOU SAID IT WOULDN'T BE THOSE EXACT HOUSE HOUSES THAT WOULD BE BUILT, BUT IT LOOKED FROM THE PICTURES THAT THERE WAS VERY LITTLE MASONRY.

IS THAT ACCURATE OR A DESIGN CHOICE OR I WANTED MORE MASONRY.

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I WOULD COMMIT THAT ANY PERCENTAGE OF MASONRY THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.

THAT IS A COMMENT THAT I'VE WANTED CLIENTS WANT.

IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LEAVING OFF FOR MONEY SAVING PURPOSES, EVEN THOUGH IT DOES.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE MASONRY ON THOSE TWO.

I WOULD SAY OUTSIDE OF THE 50 FOOT LOT.

WELL, ALL OF THOSE TECHNICALLY, EVEN WITH THE CEMENT SIDING, IS 100% MASONRY.

OUR SOFFITS, OUR CORNICE, EVERYTHING IS HEARTY, BUT FROM A STONE AND BRICK EXPOSURE ON ELEVATIONS.

I AM TOTALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT MAYBE IT'S LACKING A LITTLE BIT THERE, BUT TO REDO THOSE RENDERINGS WOULD PROBABLY.

I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT EIGHT HOURS APIECE.

I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSES? YES, MA'AM. I THINK WE'RE ALLOWED TO GO UP TO 35 RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE OVER 32, BUT ABSOLUTELY IN THE RIGHT LOT.

RIGHT. ADJACENCY.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

YOUR YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN.

YES, SIR. WHAT'S SHOWN HERE ON YOUR PICTURE ARE THOSE NEW TREES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PLANT.

YES. THE ONES THAT ARE COLORED IN.

YES, SIR. THOSE ARE NEW TREES IN ADDITION TO THE THE DOTS THAT ARE SMALL.

AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I'VE COUNTED.

WHAT? IT DOESN'T SHOW ON THAT LANDSCAPE PLAN.

I'M JUST GOING TO POINT THIS OUT, AS MANY OF THE TREES ON THE WESTERN SIDE AREN'T SHOWN THERE.

SO I ACTUALLY DIDN'T EVEN COUNT THOSE IN THOSE CALCULATIONS OF THAT 350.

BUT THE TREES THAT YOU SEE ON THE ON THE STREET SCAPE.

YES, SIR. THOSE ARE NEW TREES.

MY QUESTION IS REGARDING THE ROADWAY DESIGN THAT YOU'VE GOT SHOWN ON THE RENDERING.

IT DOESN'T SHOW ANY CURB AND GUTTER.

ARE YOU PLANNING TO PUT CURB AND GUTTER? NO, SIR. NO NO NO THE.

OKAY, SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO WORK WITH THE DRAINAGE AND DRAINAGE, WHICH MY ENGINEER IS HERE TO WITH.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE IS AT, BUT I WOULD HAVE HIM PROBABLY SPEAK TO THE DRAINAGE ON OUR STREET SECTIONS, WHICH ARE 30FT.

WE DID NOT GO THE FULL RIGHT OF WAY.

WE WERE GIVEN ACCESS THROUGH PRIVATE STREETS.

THAT WAS DETERMINED, I GUESS, 25 YEARS AGO.

TOTALLY WILLING TO WORK AROUND THAT AND HONESTLY, A FULL STREET SECTION TO ME, I DON'T THINK WAS IT GAINS ANYTHING AND I'LL HAVE RICH SPEAK ON THE DRAINAGE.

I'LL EXPLAIN WHY I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO DRAINAGE, ESPECIALLY IN A TIGHT SITUATION LIKE THIS, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY THAT ACCOMMODATES FOR SPECIFIC TYPE OF DRAINAGE PLAN, AND IN THIS CASE, WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE CURB AND GUTTER, WHERE'S THAT WATER GOING TO GO? AND WHEN YOU'RE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE ADJACENT TO A CREEK LIKE THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS. SURE. RICH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE DRAINAGE, OR DO I NEED TO DRAG YOU UP HERE OR.

I'M RICH. DIET 112 KEYSTONE IN SOUTH LAKE.

AND I'M THE ENGINEER ON THIS.

MR. SOD.

THE DRAINAGE IS NOT THAT MUCH GOING TO THAT ROAD.

AND WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE IN OTHER PROJECTS TO DO AN INVERTED MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

SO THE WATER IS GOING TO COLLECT THERE, BUT IT'S NOT THAT DEEP BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT THAT MUCH DRAINAGE AREA GOING TO IT, INCLUDING THE OFF SITE.

YEAH, WE'VE GOT THE OFF SITE GETTING COLLECTED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS WITH INLETS, AND THAT'S IN ENGINEERING RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE'RE WE'RE PLANNING ON SOME INLETS GOING ALONG THE BACK OF THE LOTS TO COLLECT THOSE.

ALONG THE NORTH SIDE THERE IS A RETAINING WALL.

AND SO A TWO STORY HOUSE AT THAT RETAINING WALL IS ONLY GOING TO BE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS HIGH BECAUSE THAT IS DOWN FROM THE LEVEL OF THOSE BACKYARDS. THOSE BACKYARDS DRAIN ON TO US.

AND THAT DRAINAGE WILL BE COLLECTED AND TAKEN DOWN TO THE CREEK.

OKAY. OKAY.

THANKS, RICH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN? THAT WAS THE QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT, MR. MICHAELS.

YES, SIR. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE LAW PROVIDES WHEN 20% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS SIGN A PETITION, THEY HAVE A SAY IN THE CASE THAT REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE IT.

YES, SIR. SIX VOTES AND 50 YEARS.

I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN.

ONLY ONE TIME THAT I CAN REMEMBER.

SO I'M NOT FOR SURE I UNDERSTAND THE FEELING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLETELY, BECAUSE TO ME, SINGLE FAMILY WOULD BE A BETTER NEIGHBOR THAN COMMERCIAL.

COMMERCIAL COULD TAKE MORE OF THE TREES.

LIGHTING BECOMES AN ISSUE.

A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, BUT GETTING PAST THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR SUBDIVISIONS EVER HOUSE IN THAT

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YOU'VE GOT FOUR ELEVATIONS.

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY A MODERN DEVELOPER WANTS TO PUT IN FOUR ELEVATIONS WHERE THE HOUSES LOOK ALIKE, MAKE THEM LOOK MORE LIKE AN APARTMENT.

WHY A MODERN DEVELOPER CAN'T COME IN AND HAVE MORE DIVERSITY OF ELEVATIONS OF HOUSE STYLE HOUSE HOUSES IN A SUBDIVISION? THAT'S ONE PROBLEM I HAVE, AND I'M GOING TO.

IS THE PRIVATE STREETS.

WE HAVE SOME AREAS OFF A DOVE THAT WERE BUILT BEFORE THEY WERE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, AND THEY WERE PRIVATE STREETS.

YOU GO ON TIPPERARY, JUST OFF OF DOVE.

THOSE STREETS IN THAT SUBDIVISION ARE GRAVEL TODAY.

THE PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO TO PAVE THEM OR TO SPEND THE MONEY TO BRING THEM UP TO, TO GRADE.

AND IF THEY WERE PAVED, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PAY THE MONEY TO MAINTAIN THOSE STREETS.

WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY EVERY YEAR MAINTAINING OUR STREETS.

IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

PRIVATE PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO MAINTAIN STREETS.

I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A PRIVATE STREET IN A SUBDIVISION.

SO YOU NEED TO KNOW THOSE TWO ISSUES I HAVE WITH YOUR SUBDIVISION OUTSIDE THE FACT THAT THERE'S A 20, 44, 43% DEAL, YOU KNOW, YOU TABLED IT, YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO OVERCOME SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND MAKE IT A MORE VIABLE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU FAILED TO DO IT.

DO YOU WANT ME TO REPLY, MAYOR? CAN I REPLY? SURE.

ON ON THE PRIVATE STREETS.

WE WOULD HAVE DONE PRIVATE STREETS, EVEN IF THAT WASN'T A SITUATION THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH FORCED UPON US WITH THE CURRENT SITUATION.

THE REASON THAT WE DECIDED TO DO PRIVATE STREETS AND NOT A FULL RIGHT OF WAY, 100%, 100%, IS FOR THE SALVATION OF THE TREES AND THE PROPERTY AND THE BEAUTY.

THERE'S NO OTHER REASON.

I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A PRIVATE STREET, IS THERE? OR HAS THERE EVER BEEN A MECHANISM WITH IT IS NOT PRACTICAL.

YOU KNOW, TREES GET CUT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY OR REDDISH COMMERCIAL.

WE'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME TREES.

PROBABLY THAT AREA SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PARK, SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED.

IT'S A VERY SPECIAL AREA WITH THE TREES AND THE CREEK.

AND I'M NOT FOR SURE HOW MUCH OF THE CREEK IS BUILDABLE, BUT I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR A PRIVATE STREET BECAUSE WE'VE HAD AN EXPERIENCE. IF PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO MAINTAIN IT, IT'S A MISTAKE, PERIOD.

AND YOU'RE NOT OLD ENOUGH AND DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO REALIZE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

BUT I'M NEVER GOING TO VOTE FOR A PRIVATE STREET, WHETHER IT'S YOURS OR ANYBODY ELSE.

IT'S A MISTAKE.

OUR CODE REQUIRES STREETS TO BE DEDICATED AND BROUGHT UP TO CITY STANDARDS, JUST LIKE THEY ARE THROUGHOUT TOWN.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT, THE MANAGEMENT AND CREATING THE CAPITAL FUND ON TO PRIVATE NEIGHBORHOODS IN COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS AND LEGACY NORTH AND LEGACY SOUTH OF LAVACA, WHERE WE HAVE A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE FUND THAT COVERS ALL PRIVATE STREET MAINTENANCE FOR 40 HOMES ON ONE AND 25 ON THE OTHER.

NEVER HAD A PROBLEM.

I UNDERSTAND THE COST OF LAND IS HAS GONE UP UNREASONABLY, AND IT MAKES IT HARD FOR A DEVELOPER TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT AND PUT IT TOGETHER AND YOU'RE STRUGGLING WITH THAT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT CAN'T JUST UPROOT, YOU KNOW, YEARS OF PLANNING IN THIS CITY AND GOOD JUDGMENT.

IT CAN'T. AND I THINK YOU'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

BUT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT'S THE MISTAKE.

THAT IS A MISTAKE AND IT WILL JUST THE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THOSE STREETS.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE POTHOLES.

THEY'RE JUST GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BE A DISASTER.

AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IT, BUT IT'S IT'S NOT.

NOT RIGHT. NOT NOT GOOD JUDGMENT.

NOT GOOD PLANNING.

I HAVE SOME SUPPORT.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

OBVIOUSLY. YOU TABLED THIS IN OCTOBER.

YES, MA'AM. WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE CHANGES YOU MADE? SURE. SO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE CHANGES WERE, AND I KNOW I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT ALL THE CHANGES ARE THAT YOU MADE. SO WOULD YOU PLEASE GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE? SURE. IT'S A COMPLEX SITE.

THE MOST RECENT CHANGE WHILE WE TABLED IT.

WHEN WE MAKE EVEN A SMALL CHANGE, WHICH WHAT I WILL SAY IS WE TOOK THE PROPERTY LINES OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND PUSHED THEM TO THE BACK OF CURB.

THE REASON THAT THE PROPERTY LINES WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

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I CANNOT, I CANNOT SAY IT ANYMORE.

IT'S TREES. SO WE TOOK THAT OUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK WE'RE TRYING TO GET ONE OVER ON THEM BY PUTTING THE PROPERTY LINE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, AND THEN OUR SETBACKS BEING TIGHTER, I WAS FULLY PREPARED.

I RESPECT THE MAYOR TREMENDOUSLY.

I WAS FULLY PREPARED TO PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THE R5'S AND, AND, AND HAVE SOME COMMENTS AND SOME THINGS THERE.

THAT THAT WAS.

COUNCIL. COUNCILWOMAN.

FREED THAT THAT WAS IT WAS TAKING THE PROPERTY LINES OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

YOU CHANGED SOME STUFF ON R5 THOUGH.

BEFORE R5 WASN'T LESS THAN 5000 FOOT LOTS, WAS IT? I IT WASN'T, BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY LINES WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

SO ONCE WE DID THAT AND TOOK IT BACK, IT PUT THEM UNDER.

IT STILL WAS UNDER 5000, I BELIEVE.

I THINK IT WAS IN THE 47 OR 4800 RANGE.

BUT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE REMEMBER THE PD OVERLAY FOR THAT.

BUT MAYBE THERE WAS FOR LESS LESS LOT SIZES.

BUT I THOUGHT ALL THOSE WERE R5.

AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WANT TO SAVE THE TREES, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THAT THAT DON'T WANT THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO THEY MATTER A LOT TOO.

AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT THEY DO.

SO I UNDERSTOOD GOING TO LISTEN TO WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY AS WELL.

UNDERSTOOD. AND YOU ALL HAVE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT WILL TAKE A DEEP DIVE IN.

AND THESE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE STUDIED.

AND YOU KNOW, WHAT I CAME HERE TONIGHT TO DO WAS EXPLAIN THE BENEFITS.

I CANNOT FIND ONE THING THAT WILL PROBABLY BE SAID TONIGHT FROM A CONCERNED CITIZEN STANDPOINT, THAT A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T IMPROVE FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT.

I'M NOT BEING ARROGANT.

I'M TELLING YOU FROM MY HEART THAT THERE'S NOT ONE ADVANTAGE.

TO DO THIS PROPERTY JUSTICE THAT COMMERCIAL PROVIDES OF A RESIDENTIAL.

BUT. THINGS CHANGE A LOT IN 30 YEARS.

AND THAT'S NOT ANY DISRESPECT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE IN THIS CITY, AND THERE'S A LOT OF VACANT OFFICES.

A COUPLE OF THINGS.

COULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR OPENING SLIDE, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. THERE IS A BROWN LINE THAT GOES PRETTY MUCH ALL AROUND IT AND THROUGH THE MIDDLE.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT BROWN LINE REPRESENTS? COUNCILWOMAN ROGERS, GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

TELL ME WHEN TO STOP.

I'LL JUST PASS. YOU JUST PASSED IT TO BACK.

GO BACK. NOT A TRAIL.

KEEP GOING. YES.

TRAIL SYSTEM. THE TRAIL SYSTEM? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BROWN LINE THAT GOES AROUND THE EXTRA PARKING SPOTS.

SO YOU HAVE A TRAIL SYSTEM, AND THEN IT GOES ALONGSIDE SIDEWALKS.

SIDEWALKS? OKAY.

THANK YOU. SORRY.

IT'S KIND OF FAINT. AND I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR PROPOSED DRAINAGE PLAN.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE STAFF CAN CAN LOAD THAT.

SO I CAN ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS TELLING ME.

I CAN READ PLANS PRETTY WELL, BUT THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.

I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO SHOW US WHICH WAY THE WATER DRAINS, BUT THE END RESULT IS WHAT I'M A LITTLE CURIOUS ABOUT.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL CAN ZOOM IN ON IT.

OVER THERE. THERE YOU GO.

THERE YOU GO. EASIER TO MOVE THE PAPER THAN THE CAMERA.

TECHNOLOGY HELPS WHEN IT WORKS.

THIS IS GREAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

JOHN. ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON IT? YES, SIR. THERE ARE DOTTED LINES ON HERE.

AND THAT INDICATES TO ME THE WAY THE DRAINAGE IS FLOWING INTO THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS WITHIN THE PROJECT, I THINK.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THE HORIZONTAL LINES AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, AT THIS GRAPHIC SEEM TO AND IF YOU MOVE YOUR FINGER DOWN A LITTLE BIT, THEY SEEM TO BISECT AND TRISECT ALL OF THE LOTS RIGHT IN THERE.

SO IT GOES THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE LOTS.

TWO OF THEM DO. AND OVER TO THE LEFT IT GOES, THEY GO.

THE VERTICAL ONE GOES PRETTY WELL THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THOSE LOTS.

WHAT DOES THAT DEPICT IN TERMS OF THE DRAINAGE? THE MAJORITY OF IT IS IT SHOWS FLOW COMING ONTO THE SITE.

THE ONES THAT ARE LISTED A ONE, A TWO, A THREE, A FOUR THAT INCLUDES DRAINAGE THAT'S COME FROM OFF SITE, THAT WILL FLOW INTO THE LOTS

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OKAY, THE AREA C-1 TO THE NORTH IS ADJACENT TO THE THAT THAT'S A SUBDIVISION RIGHT THERE.

AND THEIR BACKYARDS DO DRAIN OVER THE RETAINING WALL INTO THE STREET AND THEN DOWN TO THE CREEK AS WELL.

THEY BROKE IT UP INTO MULTIPLE SUB BASINS.

MAY NOT NEED TO BE BROKEN UP THAT FINELY, BUT IN ESSENCE, IT'S JUST TO TRY TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH WATER IS GOING WHERE.

SO IT DOESN'T INDICATE THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF A RISE IN THE LOTS.

NO, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WITH GRADING.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. SURE.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE RETAINING WALL ALONG THE NORTH SIDE, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE TO THE NORTH.

YES, SIR. SO RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE TREES, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING SOME OF THOSE TO PUT IN THE STREET AND THE RETAINING WALL.

SO IS THAT RETAINING, CAN YOU TELL ME, I GUESS ON THE RETAINING WALL, HOW FAR IS THAT FROM THE BACK PROPERTY LINE AND HOW TALL IS THAT RETAINING WALL OR WHAT.

I'M SURE IT VARIES, BUT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, COUNCILMAN MCCOY.

THE RETAINING WALL VARIES FROM FEATHERING OUT TO THE FAR WEST SIDE TO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ON LOT NUMBER SIX, IT GRADUALLY TAPERS UP AND KIND OF PEAKS AT A CLOSE TO TEN FEET TALL ON THE RETAINING WALL, ABOUT FIVE FOOT OF SPACE FOR THE FOOTER OF THAT WALL.

AND THEN IT TAPERS DOWN TO ABOUT SIX FEET AS YOU GO TO THE EAST.

ON TOP OF THAT WALL WOULD BE THE EXISTING EIGHT FOOT FENCE, WHICH WE WOULD IMPROVE, WOULD HAVE BEEN WILLING OR WOULD BE WILLING TO REPLACE.

SO LET'S JUST SAY ON AVERAGE, THAT THAT RETAINING WALL ACROSS THAT NORTHERN BOUNDARY IS SIX FEET TALL WITH AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.

SO WE HAVE 14FT.

I WAS GOING TO SAVE THIS FOR LATER, BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SHOW YOU BECAUSE I KNOW PRIVACY'S GOING TO GET BROUGHT UP.

AND WHAT'S THE DISTANCE FROM THAT? FROM THE PROPERTY LINE WHERE THE SIX FOOT FENCE WOULD BE TO THE RETAINING WALL ITSELF? 61.5FT? NO.

FROM THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE FRONT OF THE RETAINING WALL.

BEFORE YOU GET TO THE STREET, IF YOU'RE GOING TRAVELING SOUTH FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU HAVE THE EIGHT.

YOU HAVE THE SIX FOOT FENCE ADJOINING THE EXISTING PROPERTIES, THE EXISTING HOUSES.

RIGHT. AND THEN YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISTANCE TO THE RETAINING WALL.

YES. AND WHAT'S THAT DISTANCE? THE TOP OF THE WALL WILL BE A FOOT IN FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

OKAY. SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH AT THE PROPERTY LINE.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOING EXCAVATION TO CREATE THE SPOT FOR THE RETAINING WALL.

YES, SIR. OKAY. YES, SIR.

OKAY. I WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS, WHICH WILL ALSO HELP TREMENDOUSLY WITH THE VISUAL.

AND. BUT THIS IS OUR LINE OF SIGHT EXHIBIT.

THIS IS JUST TO SHOW HOW MUCH PRIVACY, AGAIN RESIDENTIAL WOULD PROVIDE TO THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH.

THESE ARE ALL SIX FOOT BODIES TO SCALE WITH A TWO STORY HOUSE.

AT THE VERY TOP. YOU CAN SEE OUR CLOSEST AND WORST CASE SCENARIO FROM THE BACK OF THE NORTHERN HOUSES TO THE FACADE, AND THE ELEVATION OF OUR HOUSES IS 96FT ONE INCH IN WORST CASE SCENARIO.

WE PROBABLY I SAID ONE FOOT COUNCILMAN COLI ON THIS.

IT'S ALL TWO DIMENSIONAL LINES.

WE TRIED TO PUT IT AT AN ANGLE, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU THAT WALL WILL BE TAPERED WITH THE HEIGHT.

SO IT WILL BE TAPERED FROM THE BASE UP SO THAT SPACE WOULD REMAIN THE SAME.

BUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE BASE OF THE EXISTING FENCE TO THE TOP OF THE RETAINING WALL THAT WE WOULD BUILD, THAT SPACE WOULD NATURALLY JUST GET TIGHTER, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BUILD A STRAIGHT UP WALL JUST FOR THE HYDRAULICS OF ANYTHING THAT COULD PUSH ON IT.

SO BUT YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET ROUGH ORDER.

YES, SIR. YEAH. FAIR ENOUGH.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

SO WE'RE NOT REALLY A QUESTION JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.

SO FIRST OF ALL, AS YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

YOUR FAMILY IN THIS COMMUNITY MEANS A LOT.

YOU GUYS DO A LOT.

AND WE APPRECIATE YOU.

AND WE ALL KNEW YOUR FATHER, AND WE HAD NOTHING GREAT THINGS TO SAY ABOUT YOUR FAMILY AND WHAT YOU WERE PRESENTING.

AND YOU'VE YOU'VE BUILT OUT HERE AND YOU'VE PROVIDED HOMES TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND YOU DO A GREAT JOB.

KEEP IN MIND THAT ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ALLOWED TABLE THINGS OR PUSH THINGS BACK IS BECAUSE WE HAVE COMMUNITY PEOPLE THAT COME TO US OR SHOW UP.

A FEW MONTHS BACK WE HAD A SIMILAR SITUATION WITH A DEVELOPMENT OF THREE SIX.

I THINK IT WAS CALLED OAK HILL.

SAME THING WE HAD. WE HAD A HOUSE FULL OF PEOPLE.

WE GOT LOTS OF LETTERS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE UPSET.

THEY WENT BACK AND MET, MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND THEY CAME BACK AND THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT CAME UP AND SAID, LOOK, WE WENT THROUGH THE PLANS, WE MET WITH THESE

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THEY MADE THE CHANGES AND NOW WE SUPPORT THAT.

AND SO THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE EMAILS AND GET THE LETTERS AND THE CALLS LIKE WE'VE GOTTEN, BUT NOTHING'S CHANGED.

AND WE STILL HAVE THE SAME OPPOSITION.

WE STILL ARE GETTING LOTS OF EMAILS.

I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YOU KNOW, I BUILD HOMES, TOO, I RESPECT IT, I APPRECIATE THE TREES.

BUT THE FACT IS, IS YOU'RE GOING TO DISRUPT THE LAND AND YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE TREES EVEN BEYOND THE BOUNDARIES OF WHERE YOU'RE BUILDING.

THAT'S JUST MOTHER NATURE.

SHE DOESN'T LIKE THAT KIND OF STUFF.

AND SO WHAT THE CHALLENGE THAT I'M RUNNING INTO IS SIMILAR TO THE MAYOR, THAT I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND DARLENE BROUGHT IT UP TO LOOKING FOR WHAT YOU MADE CHANGES TO HELP THIS COMMUNITY COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, THERE, REALLY MADE SOME EXTENSIVE CHANGES THAT WILL HELP ME UNDERSTAND AND SUPPORT IT.

WE'VE NOT HAD THAT AT ALL.

AND SO IT'S REAL HARD FOR ME TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES AS A BUILDER, AS A CONTRACTOR, TO TRY AND HELP THIS COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER AND SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

SO I'M KIND OF WITH THE MAYOR ON THIS.

I MEAN, THERE'S JUST TOO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED THAT ARE HUGE OBSTACLES THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU, YOU KNOW, BEEN ABLE TO GET PAST.

AND SO, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO YOU AND WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO, BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME SUPPORTING THIS TOO.

I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I'M REALLY GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

SO BACK IN JULY.

MY PREGNANT SISTER WENT AND TAPED A LETTER TO EVERY DOOR WITHIN 200FT.

SIGNED BY ME WITH MEETING TIMES, PHONE NUMBERS, EVERY POSSIBILITY TO MEET US.

WE HAD TWO PEOPLE SHOW UP.

ONE IS NOT AN OPPOSITION.

THE OTHER ONE LETTER IS OUT OF CONCERN.

AND ACTUALLY, THE THING HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT.

I'M ABSOLUTELY 100% WILLING TO DO.

BUT HE WON'T ANSWER MY CALLS.

I'VE TEXTED HIM AND I'VE TOLD HIM I WOULD DO WHAT HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT.

EVERYBODY ELSE REFUSES TO MEET ME.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN I TABLED THIS, I STOOD UP HERE WITH A STACK OF CARDS AND I SAID, I WANT IT ON THE RECORD THAT I WILL BE STANDING AT THIS HALLWAY OUT HERE WITH MY STACK OF CARDS. AS I WALKED OUT, A LADY TRIED TO GRAB HIM FROM ME AND SAID, LET ME THROW THESE IN THE TRASH CAN FOR YOU.

I ALSO GOT MET EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE OUT IN THE HALLWAY WITH A SCREW YOU.

I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHY THE POLICE ARE OUT THERE TODAY, IS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT JUST, FRANKLY, AREN'T WILLING TO MEET.

SO IF I'M GOING TO GET DENIED, I'M GOING TO TELL THE WHOLE STORY THAT I HAVE TRIED FOR SIX MONTHS TO MEET WITH EVERY ONE OF THESE HUMANS, AND I CAN'T I CAN'T GO KNOCK ON THEIR DOOR.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M JUST SO IF IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE RESIDENTIAL, IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE RESIDENTIAL.

BUT I WANT ON THE RECORD THAT I'VE TRIED HARDER ON THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS PROPOSAL THAN ANYWHERE ELSE.

THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO COME UP HERE TONIGHT WHERE WE PROPOSED 17 ONE ACRE LOTS IN WEST LAKE, AND THEY HAVE THE MOST HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT HOUSE, I WOULD SAY, IN TARRANT COUNTY WAS WILLING TO TALK WITH ME AND WE GOT IT DONE.

THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE.

I'VE NEVER HAD THIS SITUATION WHERE THE NEIGHBORS ARE UNWILLING TO MEET WITH ME.

THEY COME TO OUR PROPERTY, THEY COME TO OUR MODEL HOMES, THEY COME TO OUR OPEN HOUSES.

AND THEN WE FIND OUT.

WE FIND OUT ABOUT IT ONLINE AFTERWARDS WHEN THEY DISPARAGE US.

BUT THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO SAY, HEY, I'M YOUR NEIGHBOR.

WILL YOU TALK TO ME? I'M WILLING TO TALK TO ANYONE, ANY TIME, ANY PLACE.

I LOVE TO TALK.

LIKE YOU MENTIONED MY FATHER.

IT'S IN MY BLOOD. I LIKE TO TALK.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO HIM AFTER TONIGHT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT I'VE RUN INTO THE PAST SIX MONTHS TRYING TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK PART OF HIS POINT ISN'T THAT YOU HAVEN'T TRIED COMMUNICATING.

THEY DON'T LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT.

SURE. AND I THINK THAT WHATEVER YOU'VE TRIED TO DO, EVEN IN THE DURING THIS TABLING TIME, HAS STILL NOT PLEASED THEM.

SO I DON'T THINK I THINK YOU'VE MADE THE EFFORT TO TRY TO COMMUNICATE.

ANY CITIZEN HAS THE RIGHT TO NOT RESPOND, HAS THE RIGHT TO TO BE QUIET AND BE FRUSTRATED WITH THE CASE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE OLD IT'S THE OLD STORY.

ANYTHING THAT AFFECTS SOMEBODY WHERE THEY LIVE.

I UNDERSTAND, PARTICULARLY THOSE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH THAT DON'T WANT A STREET IN A HOUSE FACING THEIR BACKYARD.

I UNDERSTAND THAT I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES.

SO I DON'T THINK LEON IS TRYING TO SAY OR COUNCIL MEMBER LEAL IS TRYING TO SAY THAT YOU HAVEN'T TRIED TO COMMUNICATE.

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IT'S JUST SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST AREN'T GOING TO BE HAPPY.

AND IT MAY BE THAT THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT DON'T ALLOW, AND THE ECONOMICS DON'T ALLOW FOR YOU TO PUT IN SOMETHING THAT WOULD PLEASE THEM.

FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY YOUR FAULT.

IT'S JUST THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

SURE, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

AND THE ECONOMICS CAN BE ADJUSTED, WILLING TO ADJUST ALL OF IT AND THE STREET RUNNING BEHIND THEIR HOUSE INSTEAD OF 96FT, WE CAN BE 50FT AWAY FROM THEM.

WE CAN PUT THE STREET BY THE CREEK AND BACK HOUSES UP.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN OPTION ALL DAY LONG.

BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO SOMEBODY, I CAN'T PROPOSE THAT.

OKAY? NOBODY'S ACCUSING YOU OF NOT REALLY WORKING VERY HARD, MISTER MARCUS.

I KNOW HOW HARD YOU'VE WORKED.

YOU'VE WORKED WITH ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, YOU'VE WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORS, YOU'VE TRIED, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL TRACKS WE HAVE LEFT.

AND MAYBE THE MISTAKE YOU MADE IS TRYING TO GO TO SMALL A LOTS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BIGGER LOTS WHERE MORE TREES ARE SAVED.

BIGGER LOTS MIGHT BE A BETTER COMPROMISE WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND FOR THE CITY THAN COMMERCIAL THERE.

SO YOU KNOW, IT'S THEY'VE GOT TO BE A SOLUTION TO IT.

BUT IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT THIS ONE IS GETTING THERE FOR ANYBODY.

YES, SIR. AND SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS TONIGHT, THE PROPERTY IS STILL HAS TO BE DEALT WITH.

WE HAVE TO FIND A SOLUTION.

SO IT'S JUST I'M JUST SUGGESTING IN MY OWN MIND THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO GO WHERE YOU CAN COME OUT AND WE CAN HAVE A NICE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN GRAPEVINE.

BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE, THIS IS THE TYPE OF TERRAIN THAT REALLY WOULD BE VERY ATTRACTIVE TO PEOPLE.

THEY WOULD REALLY. JOY LIVE IN THERE.

I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU.

PROBABLY NOT LOOKING GOOD IN THIS CONFIGURATION, BUT THIS WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY THE PREMIER RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.

IT'S NOT OUR DESIRE FOR ANYBODY TO GET TRAPPED OR TO GET IN A SITUATION THEY CAN'T COME OUT.

SURE, THEY'VE GOT TO BE A SOLUTION TO EVERYTHING.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

IT'S JUST IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS.

WE'LL HAVE TO DO THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

YES, SIR. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SOLUTION, OKAY.

I WOULD LOVE THAT. SO WHEN WHEN YOU AND I HAVE TALKED A COUPLE OR THREE TIMES AND I DISCUSSED BRICK WITH YOU, CEMENTITIOUS PRODUCT HARDBOARD IS USEFUL IN SOME INSTANCES.

BUT IN GRAPEVINE WE DO BRICK.

AND YOU TOLD ME YOU WOULD DO BRICK.

YES, MA'AM. AND I SUGGESTED TO YOU, BECAUSE I WAS AWARE OF SOME OF THE OPPOSITION THAT I FELT LIKE WAS GOING TO BUILD.

AND SO TO THE TO THE MAYOR'S POINT IS SOMETHING THAT THAT I SAID TO YOU IN ONE OF OUR CONVERSATIONS IS, LOOK, THIS IS THE PRETTIEST PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THIS TOWN AT THIS TIME.

YOU COULD HAVE LARGE LOTS THERE AS STATE LOTS.

YOU COULD BUILD MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR HOMES THERE THAT THIS CITY WOULD BE PROUD OF.

AND THE NEIGHBORS, I THINK WOULD BE PROUD OF.

AND THEY WOULD SELL LIKE HOTCAKES.

WHY? BECAUSE OF THAT PROPERTY AND BECAUSE THEY'RE IN GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED WOULD YOU WANT TO CONSIDER THINKING ABOUT THAT NOW? I'M CONSIDERING ALL OPTIONS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT Y'ALL ARE UP HERE FOR A REASON, AND YOU SEE THE BEAUTY AND THE POTENTIAL IN THIS PROPERTY.

AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE LIGHTLY.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUNG COMMENT, MAYOR.

MY WIFE TOLD ME TO LEAVE MY GRAY BEARD, BUT THIS IS STRESSING ME OUT BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING REALLY NICE ON THIS PIECE.

OKAY? I WOULD LOVE TO SEE COUNCILMAN LEAL BUILD HOUSES IN THIS PLACE.

THERE'S ANOTHER GRAPEVINE BUILDER THAT GRADUATED FROM GRAPEVINE HIGH SCHOOL.

NOT JUST US, BUT THESE LOTS ARE THE POTENTIAL FOR THESE LOTS DESERVE.

DESERVE THE THE BEST CONFIGURATION.

AND I WOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT ANYTHING THAT I DIDN'T THINK.

IF THE DESIRE AND THE AND THE THE THE VISION IS TO SEE WHAT BEAUTIFUL HOMES AND LOTS THESE COULD POTENTIALLY BE.

WHAT IS WHAT IS AN ESTATE SIZED LOT THE SAME THAT IS TO OUR WEST.

THOSE ARE NICE BEAUTIFUL LOTS.

THEY'RE HALF ACRE LOTS. YES MA'AM.

YEAH I USED TO LIVE ON ONE OF THEM.

YEAH. YOU DID SO WELL.

YEAH, WELL, I HATE IT THAT WE HAVEN'T COME TO SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE THAT THAT EVERYBODY LIKES.

THAT'S VERY HARD TO DO, OBVIOUSLY, BUT, YOU KNOW, NO ONE, IF YOU'VE LIVED WITH BEAUTIFUL TREES AND THAT BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE YOU SHOWED BEHIND YOUR HOUSE FOREVER, THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT THERE IF YOU COULD.

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I WOULD HATE TO SEE IT BE ZONED, BE BUILT UP AS COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE LOOKING AT THE BACK OF A BUILDING AND TEARING DOWN THE TREES TO DO THAT WOULD NOT, I THINK WOULD BE A DISSERVICE TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST BOUNDARIES THAT WE HAVE TO TO FACE.

AND THE SUPERMAJORITY VOTE, WE'RE FACED WITH THAT AND THE FACED WITH THE OPPOSITION, REASONABLE OR NOT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO TO OPPOSE IT.

SO I'M HOPING THAT MAYBE YOU OWN THIS PROPERTY.

IT'S A JEWEL.

I'M HOPING THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN COME BACK WITH AND WHERE EVERYBODY WILL BE MUCH HAPPIER THAN THEY ARE.

APPRECIATE IT. I THINK THE KEY IS SOMETHING PERHAPS A LITTLE LESS DENSE.

THAT WOULD GIVE YOU A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF PUTTING THE HOUSES A LITTLE FURTHER APART, LARGER LOTS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH, YEAH. PUBLIC STREETS, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE PALATABLE.

OKAY. I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A TON OF CONSTRAINTS WITH THE DRAINAGE AND THE AND THE CREEK.

THAT WOULD BE KIND OF CHALLENGING TO FIT THAT ALL TOGETHER, I KNOW.

BUT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD MARK IT THERE.

YES, SIR. AND MIGHT MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE PALATABLE TO THE TO THE NEIGHBORING.

I'M JUST GUESSING. BUT THESE ARE WONDERFUL COMMENTS AND I APPRECIATE THEM MORE THAN YOU KNOW.

OKAY. WELL, MAYBE WE NEED TO HEAR WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WANT TO SAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER, MR. MARCUS? NO.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

AND IF SOMETHING ELSE COMES TO MIND, I'M NOT LEAVING.

SO I REALLY, TRULY WANT TO HEAR THE OPINIONS AND COMMENTS SO WE CAN MAKE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WHAT IT DESERVES.

I THINK MAYBE THE PROBLEM IS YOU'VE GOT A SPECIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY AND TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING TRADITIONAL THERE, WHICH YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO ANTICIPATE.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO, I THINK.

BUT IN VIEW OF THE FACTS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND JUST LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S COMMERCIAL REALLY ISN'T THE ANSWER FOR THEM EITHER.

YES, SIR. AND WE KNOW WHAT THAT DOES.

THE LIGHTING'S A PROBLEM.

THE DUMPSTERS GET PICKED UP AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING AND CREATE A LOT OF NOISE.

TAKES ALL THE TREES.

IT'S JUST EVERY REASON THAT'S NOT THE BEST FOR ANYBODY.

BUT THE. WE'VE ALWAYS WANTED SOME BIGGER LOTS AND SOME BIGGER HOUSES.

THEIR TOWNHOUSES ARE SELDOM FOR A MILLION.

THREE ON DALLAS ROAD.

WE GOT UP TONIGHT AND THEY'RE SITTING ON NO LAND AT ALL.

SO I MEAN THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE.

YES, SIR. AND I HAVE SEEN WHAT'S COMING BEHIND ME AND I WISH THEM GREAT SUCCESS, BUT I THINK IT'LL PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE FOR MAYBE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL, OF WHAT'S CONSIDERED HIGH DENSITY AND SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT COULD CREATE AN IMAGE THAT WOULD CARRY YOU EVEN FURTHER, HAVE GREATER BENEFITS IN THE FUTURE FOR YOU, TOO? YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE 18 PEOPLE.

ACTUALLY, I HAVE 20 NOW.

AND WHAT? 20. NOW WE HAVE 20 PEOPLE WISHING TO SPEAK.

WE ASK YOU NOT TO DEMONSTRATE OR CLAP OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS, BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT'S FAIR.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE INTIMIDATED GETTING UP TO SPEAK ANYWAY IN PUBLIC.

WE WANT TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE, WHETHER YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST IT, YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO STATE YOUR POSITION WITHOUT BEING RIDICULED OR EMBARRASSED.

SO WE WANT TO CREATE THAT ENVIRONMENT.

I THINK THAT'S ONLY RIGHT.

SO WE ASK, NO, NOBODY JOIN IN IN CLAPPING OR COMMENTS EXCEPT THE SPEAKER WHO WILL BE MAKING COMMENTS.

WE WILL CALL ON THE LAST CITY SECRETARY TO CALL ON THOSE SPEAKERS IN THE ORDER THAT THEY'VE REGISTERED.

WOULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE THE FIRST SPEAKER? YES, SIR. BEFORE I DO THAT, I DO HAVE FOUR PEOPLE THAT REGISTERED THAT SAID THEY DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT ARE IN FAVOR.

AND THEN TO THE SPEAKERS.

THE FIRST ONE I HAVE IS MARLO HENRY, 1214 KILLARNEY STREET.

OKAY. HELLO, MY NAME IS MARLO HENRY, AND I'M A GRAPEVINE RESIDENT AT 1214 KILLARNEY STREET.

AND I APPROVE THE MARCUS GRAPEVINE SPRINGS DEVELOPMENT.

A NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IMPROVES OUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY VALUE MUCH MORE THAN A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

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WE LIVE ON A PRIVATE STREET LIKE MAYOR TATE SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER.

OUR PROPERTY ALSO BACKS TO FERRIS BRANCH CREEK AND THE CORP OF ENGINEER PROPERTY.

MY BOYS ARE SO BLESSED TO HAVE THIS CREEK LINE IN OUR BACKYARD.

THEY HAVE MADE SO MANY MEMORIES WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS BUILDING FORTS, SWIMMING, FISHING, AND EXPLORING THE CREEK LINE.

FOR A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER LIKE MARCUS HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS TO ALLOW THIS EXPERIENCE TO CONTINUE WITH OTHER CHILDREN.

I THINK THIS IS AN AMAZING BLESSING.

LET'S CONTINUE MAKING FERRIS BRANCH CREEK MEMORIES AT GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

MARY JORDAN, 504 DOVE CREEK PLACE.

HELLO. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY.

AM I ALLOWED TO READ A LETTER ON BEHALF OF ANOTHER CITIZEN? IT'S A QUICK LETTER.

MY NAME IS PAUL.

MY NAME IS MARY GIORGIO AND I LIVE AT 504 DOVE CREEK PLACE.

A FELLOW NEIGHBOR SENT ME AN EMAIL BECAUSE SHE COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.

SO SHE ASKED ME TO READ THIS AND I'LL GO QUICKLY.

MY NAME IS PAULA SANTELLA.

I LIVE AT FIVE, SIX, FOUR DOVE CREEK PLACE IN GRAPEVINE.

I AM EMAILING THE CITY COUNCIL TO STRONGLY OPPOSE THE UPCOMING ZONING CHANGE REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT OF GRAPEVINE SPRINGS PROPERTY.

THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT GRAPEVINE RESIDENTS AND I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE AGAINST IT.

GRAPEVINE DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER LARGE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, AND ESPECIALLY ONE THAT WILL NEGATIVELY, DRASTICALLY, NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THIS PROPERTY AS PLANNED, WITH MULTIPLE VARIANCES REQUESTED.

THIS DEVELOPMENT PLACES A RESIDENTIAL ROAD RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINES, WHICH WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE NEIGHBORS BEHIND IT.

THE ROAD WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC AND ROAD NOISE, AND WILL INCREASE THE LIGHT BEING REFLECTED INTO THOSE EXISTING PROPERTIES FROM HEADLIGHTS AND OPENING GARAGES. THE PLAN.

DEVELOPMENT FOLLOWING THE ZONING CHANGE WILL ALSO ADD A LARGE INCREASE TO THE TRAFFIC ALONG NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AND PARK, WHICH IS ALREADY AN OVERLOADED AREA IN THE MORNINGS AND AT THE END OF THE WORK DAY.

THIS CAUSES TROUBLE FOR ALL RESIDENTS OF GRAPEVINE.

THIS SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED.

NO TREES, INCREASED TRAFFIC AND ROAD NOISE, AND NEIGHBORS SO CLOSE THEY ARE ALMOST IN YOUR YARD.

THERE IS NO WAY THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH THESE CODE VARIANCES APPROVED HELP THOSE RESIDENTS AT ALL.

WE LOVE GRAPEVINE AND LIVING HERE, BUT WE DO NOT WANT TO LIVE IN A TOWN THAT CAN ALLOW PROPERTIES TO BE BUILT THAT ARE DETRIMENTAL TO ITS OTHER RESIDENTS, OR THAT ARE HARD TO TRANSIT. THIS IS UNFAIR, AND WHERE WE EXPECT THE CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE STEP UP AND DO ITS JOB TO VOTE AGAINST A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR ALL OF US AS CITIZENS. THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS REZONING REQUEST AND ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT AS PROPOSED TO BE BUILT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND ALLOWING ME TO READ THIS.

THANK YOU. KAREN MYERS, 206 WEST PEACH STREET.

OKAY. KENDALL BRIERS 2806 LIVE OAK.

HELLO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.

I RECEIVED LETTERS FROM FOUR ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS OF GRAPEVINE.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO READ THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME? OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO COME BACK UP AS YOU CALL MY NAME? I'LL LEAVE THAT TO THE MAYOR.

APOLOGIES. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HON, YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO.

OKAY? FOR ALL OF THE.

THAT'S FINE FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENTS.

JUST STAY WITHIN YOUR TIME FRAME.

PERFECT. OKAY.

I'M WRITING TO VOICE OPPOSITION TO THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE OF THE PROPERTY AT GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

I'M SORRY I STARTED THE WRONG LETTER.

I'M NOT GREAT WITH CROWDS, SO FORGIVE ME ABOUT THAT.

MY NAME IS KENDALL BYERS, AND I LIVE AT 2806 LIVE OAK AND GRAPEVINE.

I'M WRITING TO ASK YOU TODAY TO VOTE AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE FOR THE PROPERTY AT GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

GRAPEVINE I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD APPROVE IT FROM THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SLASH COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL WITH THE PLANNED VARIANCES THAT THE BUILDER IS REQUESTING.

THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS LAND WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON SURROUNDING PROPERTY VALUES, DUE TO HOMES BEING CLOSE CLOSER TO THEIRS THAN NORMAL AND A ROAD BEING PLACED DIRECTLY BEHIND THEIR PROPERTIES.

I THINK IT IS NOTRILLIONIGHT FOR A ZONING CHANGE AND A SUBSEQUENT BUILDING TO HURT EXISTING RESIDENTS OF GRAPEVINE.

I ALSO DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT TO CUT DOWN SO MANY TREES ON THIS BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY.

WHILE THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE BEAUTIFUL TREES, ALL OF THE EXISTING PROPERTIES WILL BE IMPACTED.

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ADD THIS TO THE NOISE FROM THE NEW HOMES AND THE NEW ROAD, AND IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A LOSS IN PROPERTY VALUES FOR THE HOUSES THAT BORDER THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M ALSO AGAINST THE INCREASED TRAFFIC THAT WILL RESULT FROM THESE HOMES JUST BEING BUILT OFF NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

TRAFFIC IS ALREADY AWFUL ON THIS ROAD AFTER WORK AND THIS WILL DEFINITELY MAKE IT WORSE.

I'VE LIVED IN GRAPEVINE MOST OF MY LIFE.

I SOUGHT A HOME CLOSE TO THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTY AND PEACE THAT YOU CAN FIND.

THIS DEVELOPMENT TAKES AWAY BOTH OF THESE, IN MY OPINION, AND MAKE THE TOWN FURTHER CROWDED AND OVERDEVELOPED.

PLEASE REPRESENT GRAPEVINE WE LOVE AND VIEW AGAINST THIS ZONING CHANGE OR VOTE AGAINST THIS ZONING CHANGE AND THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU. KENDALL BYERS.

THANK YOU. NEXT.

JOAN REED, 1906, SHOREWOOD CIRCLE.

SHE'S GOING FOR EACH OF THEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I AM WRITING TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE AT GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

MY NAME IS JOAN REED AND I LIVE AT 1906 SHOREWOOD DRIVE IN GRAPEVINE.

I'M OPPOSED TO THE ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW THE ADDITION OF 32 LARGE, DENSELY PACKED HOMES AND CHANGE ONE OF THE LAST BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACES IN OUR CITY.

THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH CODE VARIANCES DO NOT HELP THE CURRENT RESIDENTS AT ALL.

GRAPEVINE IS A NICE PLACE TO LIVE AND WE SHOULD RESPECT OUR NEIGHBORS ENOUGH TO TREAT THEM FAIRLY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR VOICES ARE HEARD.

WE ARE AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE.

I'M PROUD TO CALL GRAPEVINE HOME, BUT I NEED TO HAVE A CITY COUNCIL THAT TAKES TIME TO LISTEN TO ITS CITIZENS.

PLEASE VOTE WITH THE WISHES OF RESIDENTS AND DO NOT GIVE IN TO THE PRESSURE TO KEEP DEVELOPING.

JOAN REED. ABBY KLOSTERMAN 1206 BEL AIR.

WE ARE WRITING TO EXPRESS OUR DEEP CONCERN WITH THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FOR GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CHANGE FROM A PROFESSIONAL ZONING AND REDUCTION OF GREEN SPACE IN FAVOR OF NEW, HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE ZONING CHANGE WOULD HAVE FAR REACHING AND NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES FOR THE FOR THE CURRENT HOMEOWNERS, NATIVE WILDLIFE, CITY INFRASTRUCTURE, AND OVERALL CULTURE OF THIS CITY. CHANGING ZONING FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL SHOULD ALSO BE APPROACHED WITH CAUTION.

THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS HAVE CHOSEN THEIR RESIDENCES WITH CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS ABOUT THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT AND PROPERTY VALUES.

A DRAMATIC CHANGE IN ZONING DISRUPTS THESE EXPECTATIONS, CREATING UNCERTAINTY WHICH LEADS TO FRUSTRATION AND DISSATISFACTION AMONG RESIDENTS TO THE PRECEDENT BEING SET.

FURTHERMORE, THE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING THAT IS BEING PROPOSED CONSTRAIN OUR CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING UTILITIES, TRANSPORTATION, AND PUBLIC SERVICES.

IT'S CRUCIAL TO CONSIDER THE INCREASED DEMANDS ON WATER, SEWAGE AND ELECTRICITY THAT DEVELOPMENTS CAN PLACE ON AN ALREADY STRESSED SYSTEM.

ADDITIONALLY, HIGHER POPULATION DENSITY MAY LEAD TO INCREASED TRAFFIC CONGESTION IMPACTING OUR ROADS AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT OUR CITY HAS A LONG TERM PLAN IN PLACE FOR A REASON.

DEVIATING FROM THIS PLAN COULD DISRUPT THE EXISTING CULTURE, WHICH IS CAREFULLY BEEN CULTIVATED OVER THE YEARS.

GRAPEVINE HAS A UNIQUE CHARACTER WITH ITS BEAUTIFUL PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS, BEAUTIFUL LAKE, TALL TREES AND HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURE.

THIS CONTRIBUTES TO OUR SENSE OF IDENTITY AND COMMUNITY.

CHANGING THIS CHARACTER TOO DRASTICALLY WILL LEAD TO A LOSS OF OUR HERITAGE AND IDENTITY THAT OUR RESIDENTS HOLD DEAR.

THIS IS WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT FROM SOUTHLAKE AND H-E-B.

WE URGE YOU TO DENY THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE.

WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT SHOULD BE BALANCED WITH A COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, RESPECTING THE RIGHTS AND INVESTMENTS OF CURRENT HOMEOWNERS, ENSURING THE SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE, AND PRESERVING THE CULTURE THAT MAKES OUR CITY SPECIAL.

IT'S CRUCIAL THAT ANY CHANGES TO OUR CITYSCAPE ALSO ALIGN WITH THE BEST INTERESTS AND WELL-BEING OF OUR RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

WE HOPE THAT YOU TAKE OUR CONCERNS SERIOUSLY AND WORK TOWARDS A SOLUTION THAT MAINTAINS THE CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE COME TO VALUE.

NANCY SNYDER, 508 DOVE POND ROAD.

I'M JUST GOING TO STAY.

HELLO, MY NAME IS NANCY SNYDER AND I LIVE ON DUCK POND DRIVE IN GRAPEVINE.

I'M SUBMITTING AN EMAIL IN ORDER TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING CHANGE OF THE NATURAL AREA, REFERRED TO AS GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AS ONE AS WELL AS MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS IN THE PLACID PENINSULA SUBDIVISION.

WE DO NOT AGREE WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS NEW RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ASSOCIATED BUILDING VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED.

GRAPEVINE IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE AND CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

THERE HAS BEEN TOO MUCH RECENT DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY OF THE MORE DENSELY PACKED HOMES THAT CHANGE THE FEEL OF OUR TOWN FROM ONE OF PRESERVING OUR HERITAGE AND NATURAL AREAS TO ONE GOING AFTER MOST PROFIT WITHOUT CONCERN TO PRESERVATION.

THAT IS NOT WHAT YOUR CITIZENS WANT.

THERE ARE MANY IDEAS IN WAYS THE CITY CAN PRESERVE ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING WATERSHED AREAS IN WILDLIFE AND NATURE THAT LIVE THERE, AND ALL WE ENJOY.

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PLEASE VOTE AS YOUR CONSTITUENTS WOULD WANT YOU TO, WHICH IS AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGES AND PROPOSED PLAN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

JULIE JACOB, 503 DOVE CREEK PLACE.

FINALLY, MY NAME IS JULIE JACOB.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK HERE TODAY FOR MYSELF AND MY FELLOW CITIZENS.

I'M ACTUALLY A PROPERTY OWNER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, SO IT IS MY PROPERTY THAT WILL HAVE THE RETAINING WALL AND THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THAT ZONING CHANGE AS WELL.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S IN LINE WITH THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED.

LIKE ALL THE OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, THIS WAS DIVINE DESIGNED ORIGINALLY AS COMMERCIAL AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, THE BUILDING AT PROFESSIONAL OFFICE IS REQUIRED TO STAY AT ONE STORY.

IT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE A BUFFER ZONE OF TWO TIMES THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.

THE LIGHTING IN THAT PROPERTY WOULD NOT AFFECT MY YARD, AND IT WOULD ALSO REMAIN QUIET AND DARK IN THE NON-WORK HOURS.

THE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING REQUIRED FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD RETAIN THE GENERAL STATUS OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

HAVING A ROAD PLACED DIRECTLY OUTSIDE MY PROPERTY LINE WILL RESULT IN AN EXCESS AMOUNT OF NOISE, AND REFERRED LIGHT DIRECTLY INTO MY BACK YARD.

WITHOUT A PUBLIC ROAD BEING PLACED IN THE DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S NO REQUIRED BUFFER ZONE TO REDUCE THIS NOISE TO ME AND MY NEIGHBORS.

CURRENTLY, I HAVE A WONDERFULLY QUIET AND PEACEFUL BACKYARD THAT WILL CHANGE DRASTICALLY.

I WOULD NOT HAVE PURCHASED MY HOME IF THERE WAS AN ACTIVE RESIDENTIAL ROAD OUTSIDE MY FENCE.

NOT ONLY WILL THE REMOVAL OF TREES JUST OUTSIDE MY PROPERTY CHANGE THE ENTIRE BACKYARD, THEY'RE ALSO PLANNING ON REMOVING A TREE THAT SITS DIRECTLY INSIDE MY FENCE.

A REMOVAL RIBBON WAS PLACED ON THE SIDE OF THE TREE AND IT'S MISSING IN THE DRAWING, SO I KNOW THAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON REMOVING THAT, BUT THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANYBODY REACHING OUT TO ME TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

IT WILL HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON MY PROPERTY, AS ITS ROOTS RUN BELOW A BUILDING THAT'S ON MY PROPERTY AND A SLAB THAT IT WILL AFFECT.

AS PROPOSED, THE HOMES AND GRAPEVINE SPRINGS WOULD BE PLACED JUST ACROSS THE ROAD, OUTSIDE THE FENCE AND WITHOUT A VARIANCE.

GRANTED, THERE WOULD BE NOISE FROM THEIR GARAGES, FRONT DOORS AND DRIVEWAYS, AND I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T HAVE PURCHASED A HOME WITHOUT PRIVACY.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES NEAR THE HOMES ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT RESIDENTS AND THEIR GUESTS WOULD JUST NATURALLY PARK IN THE DRIVEWAYS.

THE LIMITED NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF CARS PARKING ALONG THIS PRIVATE ROAD.

THE ZONING CHANGE WOULD ALSO SHOULD BE DENIED, SIMILAR TO THE PULTE HOMES, DUE TO THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ISSUES THAT WOULD RESULT FROM A LARGE DEVELOPMENT THAT NOW IS ENTERING THROUGH A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND ADDING TRAFFIC ONTO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

AS THERE ARE NO TURNAROUNDS AND CUL DE SACS IN THE PROPERTY.

GISD BUSSES HAVE ALSO MENTIONED THAT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SERVICE THIS AREA.

THAT WOULD REQUIRE CHILDREN TO WALK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, TO PICK UP A SCHOOL BUS.

THIS CREATES AN UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR CHILDREN OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOULD BE UNACCEPTABLE TO EVERYONE.

THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF OPPOSITION TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND TO THE ZONING VARIANCES OR THE ZONING CHANGE, AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST THAT AND SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS WHO WILL BE AFFECTED THE MOST.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS NOT SIGNED THE APPLICATION TO SPEAK? WELL, THEY ALL THEY ALL SIGNED THEY ALL SIGNED DIFFERENT FORMS. SHE HAD NO RIGHT TO SIGN ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THESE OTHER SPEAKERS, DIDN'T HAVE A POWER OF ATTORNEY.

SO EACH ANYBODY THAT HAS A LETTER CAN FILE IT WITH THE CITY, AND IT WOULD BE COPIED TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND BE A PART OF THE RECORD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD.

I'M SO SORRY. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SIGN A RIGHT TO SPEAK, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A POWER OF ATTORNEY ON BEHALF OF THOSE PEOPLE.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE JUST GOING TO USE YOUR THREE MINUTES TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'S REALLY AN ABUSE OF THE SYSTEM.

DO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE DONE THAT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I KNOW THE NEXT TWO AREN'T.

IF YOU DO, WE'LL JUST FILE THE RECORDS, BRING THE LETTERS TO THE CITY SECRETARY AND SHE'LL COPY ALL OF US.

IT'LL BE A PART OF THE RECORD.

WE WON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO READ THEM, AND I APOLOGIZE.

I DID REACH OUT TO TARA AND ASKED WHAT THE PROCEDURE WAS, AND SHE ADVISED US THAT IT WAS GETTING AN AUTHORIZED STATEMENT, THAT WE HAD THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.

SO MY APOLOGIES TO THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMISSION.

RATHER, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE SAY.

SO I'M JUST SAYING IN THE FUTURE, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST FOLLOW THE LETTER AND THEY'LL COPY ALL OF US.

IT'LL BE A PART OF THE RECORD JUST AS MUCH, AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT.

THANK YOU. AND I APOLOGIZE AGAIN FOR THE TIME.

IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYWAY, NOBODY ELSE HAS DONE THAT.

THERE'S MORE. I DON'T BELIEVE SO, BUT I DO HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS CALL ON THE NEXT SPEAKER, THEN.

SIR DEBBIE MEEK, 125 BROWNSTONE DRIVE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

EVENING, MAYOR TATE, CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING.

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TONIGHT, I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF MARCUS HOMES AND THE GRAPEVINE SPRINGS DEVELOPMENT.

I HAVE RESEARCHED THAT AREA AND FOUND OUT IN THE EARLIEST DAYS IT WAS AN INDIAN CAMPGROUND AREA HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT STREAM THAT RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE CRITTERS AND DISEASE COULD ABOUND THERE, AND THE TREES ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF ATTENTION. ACCORDING TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY IS ONE OF THE LAST PIECES OF LAND THAT WE HAVE TO DEVELOP IN OUR CITY.

AND IF THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT ADJOINING AREA ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE NATURAL AREA GOING AWAY, IF ANYBODY FEELS THAT, I LOVE THAT TOO.

WE LIVE IN WINDING CREEK, AND WE HAD THE MCPHERSON FARMHOUSE IN THAT ACREAGE RIGHT OUT MY FRONT DOOR, AND I USED TO DRIVE OVER THERE AND LOOK AROUND AND GO, WOW, LOOK AT THIS FARMHOUSE IN THIS SCHOOL.

I LOVED IT. I LOVED HAVING IT CLOSE BY BECAUSE I PARTICULARLY LOVE HISTORY, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT.

SO THE DAY CAME, THE FARMHOUSE WAS HAULED OFF AND BIG BEAUTIFUL HOMES WENT IN THERE.

IT ADJOINS TO WINDING CREEK AND IT IT JUST ENHANCES OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I FEEL LIKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WE ENHANCE THEM TOO.

AND I DO LOVE THAT IF THESE PEOPLE ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT PLACES AND NATURAL HABITATS.

LET ME JUST TELL YOU, WE HAVE 1600 ACRES OF PARK LAND IN GRAPEVINE THAT HAS BEEN RESTORED AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO VERY FAR, JUST PROBABLY AROUND THE CORNER TO FIND A BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE, TRAILS AND NATURAL PLACES TO HANG OUT, SOME OF WHICH PROBABLY MANY ARE AWARD WINNING IN OUR CITY.

WE ALSO HAVE 73 MILES AND THIS COMES OFF OF PARK AND REC JUST STRAIGHT OFF.

I DIDN'T MAKE IT UP BECAUSE I THOUGHT 73 MILES OF TRAILS.

WE HAVE IT RIGHT HERE IN GRAPEVINE.

IT'S AROUND THE CORNER.

YOU JUST CAN'T LOOK OVER YOUR BACK FENCE TO SEE IT.

THIS IS AN AMAZING FACT DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE GIVEN UP OVER 50% OF OUR LAND MASS HERE IN THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE, THAT WOULD BE FOR LAKE GRAPEVINE, THE DFW CONDUCTOR, AND ALSO DFW AIRPORT.

SO WITH WHAT WE HAVE LEFT, LOOK AT WHAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IN OUR GREAT CITY BECAUSE OF CAREFUL PLANNING AND LOTS OF HARD WORK.

WE HAVE A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN GRAPEVINE.

THE STAGNANT WATER THAT'S ON THAT PROPERTY WOULD BE CLEANED UP AND KEPT CLEAN FOR EVERYONE TO COME BY, AND IT WOULD BE FLOWING WATER IN THERE.

IT WOULDN'T BE A DRIED OUT CREEK AND LOOKING ALL BEAT UP.

THE TREES WOULD BE TRIMMED AND ONLY THE TREES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN DOWN WOULD BE TAKEN DOWN.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THEY TIED THE RIBBONS ON THEM, THEY'RE GOING DOWN.

I DON'T THINK I THINK THAT HAD MORE TO DO WITH SURVEY AND WHAT WOULD BE GOING ON THERE.

I'M NOT FOR SURE ON THAT, BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

SO ONLY THE NECESSARY TREES WOULD BE REMOVED.

IN MY OPINION, THERE IS NOT A BETTER OR MORE QUALIFIED DEVELOPER THAT COULD TAKE THIS SCRUB PIECE OF PROPERTY AND CLEAN IT UP RESPECTFULLY.

DEVELOP A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WORK WITH MARCUS HOLMES TO TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE VERY BEAUTIFUL THERE.

I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WILL MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR GRAPEVINE, AND YOU WILL GUIDE THE BUILDERS AS YOU HAVE IN THE PAST.

YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR DECADES UPON DECADES.

I WANT TO THANK YOU TONIGHT FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY OPINIONS TONIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NEXT, BOBBY RAWLS AND I'M SORRY I CAN'T READ THE ADDRESS.

I'M BOBBY RAWLS 845.

MADAM IN LOOP WEST HERE IN GRAPEVINE.

AND JUST LISTENING TO THIS.

YOU KNOW, THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PIECES OF PROPERTY.

AND GRAPEVINE LEFT.

IN FACT, I WANT TO BUILD A HOME THERE.

OUR FAMILY HAS PROBABLY DONE TEN ACRES HOMES AND THEY BUILD A GOOD HOUSE.

THERE WAS AN ATTACK ON THEIR NAME ON NEXT DOOR ABOUT THE TILLERY COMMONS PROPERTY.

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WELL, I WENT ON TAD AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THE HOUSES TO THE NORTH OF THAT.

AND IF THOSE ARE UGLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL SOME OF THESE TRACT HOMES THAT ARE BEHIND THEM.

I THINK THAT'S SAD THAT YOU CALL $750,000 HOUSE AN UGLY MONSTROSITY.

IT'S IT'S PRETTY FUNNY.

THEY'VE SOLD NINE OF THOSE MONSTROSITIES AND HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN ON A MONTHLY BASIS LOOKING TO MAKE THEIR HOME IN GRAPEVINE, BECAUSE REALLY, THE THE DIRECTION OF MAYOR TATE AND YOU GUYS UP HERE AT THE COUNCIL, YOU'VE GOT A TOUGH JOB.

AND YOU KNOW THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I KNOW THE FAMILY FOR 50 YEARS.

HIS DAD WAS MY BEST FRIEND.

AND YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW HOW TO READ A ROOM.

MAYOR TATE'S NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS.

LEON'S NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT.

YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SIX OUT OF SEVEN.

SO I THINK WHAT THE NEIGHBORS NEED TO DO IS FIND OUT WHAT THEY REALLY WANT.

AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE SEVEN HOMES BACK THERE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELL THAT LAND AND MAKE IT GO COMMERCIAL.

AND I THINK YOU'LL BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR, BECAUSE YOU JUST MIGHT GET IT.

AND I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ON NEXT DOOR SAY IT'S GOING TO RUIN THEIR PROPERTY VALUES.

IF YOU GET A MAKE A CUSTOM HOME.

THEY BUILT 31 COMMUNITIES IN SOUTH LAKE WHERE I GREW UP.

THEY BUILT MY HOME THERE.

IT DOESN'T RUIN ANY VALUE.

IT REALLY MAKES PEOPLE MILLIONAIRES, IS WHAT IT DOES.

SO. ETHAN'S A SMART ENOUGH GUY TO WHERE I THINK HE'S GOING TO ASK YOU HOW TO GET A PUBLIC ROAD IN THERE, HOW TO MAKE THIS MORE PALATABLE.

HE WANTS TO MEET WITH PEOPLE.

AND I THINK IT'S SAD WHEN YOU GO THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND BEAT PEOPLE UP AND DON'T GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT IN THE HELL DO YOU WANT? I MEAN, YOU WANT OFFICE BUILDINGS BACK THERE OR DO YOU WANT NICE HOMES? AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HE'LL PROBABLY ASK FOR LATER ON TONIGHT.

AND YOU GUYS HAVE A TOUGH, TOUGH JOB BECAUSE WHEN YOU OPEN UP YOUR EMAIL, YOU GET ALL THESE IN OPPOSITION AND THEY GOT TO BRING IN PEOPLE WHO ARE FOR IT.

JUST SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION.

IT'S GOING TO GET DEVELOPED, TRUST ME.

BUT YOU MAY NOT LIKE HOW IT'S GOING TO WHAT THE SECOND OPTION IS GOING TO BE.

THANK YOU. NEXT SHARRON GRIP FIVE FIVE, THREE DOVE CREEK CIRCLE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR TATE AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

JULIE JACOBS SAID MOST OF THE STUFF THAT I WANTED TO SAY, SO I WON'T GO INTO ALL OF THAT.

I LIVE IN ONE OF THE UGLY TRACK HOMES BEHIND AND.

THAT HOME IS MY HOME.

IT'S MY LEGACY.

IT'S WHERE I RAISED MY CHILDREN, AND WE HAVE A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.

THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE WAY IT'S SET RIGHT HERE, I HAVE EIGHT FOOT RETAINING WALL BEHIND MY HOUSE.

IT'S CUT RIGHT DOWN.

IT WILL KILL MY TREES IN MY YARD AS IT'LL CUT THE ROOT SYSTEM.

THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE A ROAD AND THERE'S GOING TO BE LIGHTS AND NOISE, AND THOSE HOUSES WILL BE RIGHT THERE.

AND WHETHER I SEE WINDOWS OR I DON'T SEE WINDOWS, BUT MY BACK YARD AND MY DECK THAT I HAVE MY FAMILY THINGS IS TEN FOOT FROM THAT FENCE LINE.

I'M GOING TO HEAR THINGS I'M GOING TO BE I'LL HAVE NO PRIVACY.

AND THEN WHEN I LOSE MY TREES, I'LL HAVE NO SHADE.

SO THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE WAY IT'S SET, IS NOT GOOD FOR US.

SO THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.

MR. WRIGHT SAID A LONG TIME AGO HE WOULD ONLY BUILD AS HE HAD PEOPLE WANTING TO MOVE IN BACK THERE AND THAT'S THE WAY IT STAYED FOR A LONG TIME.

SO RIGHT NOW THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.

WE STILL LIKE THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE ASPECT OF THIS.

I KNOW IT WILL GET DEVELOPED, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'D LIKE TO STAY WITH THE MASTER PLAN.

THANK YOU. MR..

DO YOU ALSO HAVE THE LETTERS FOR FRANK AND JANET COLBY THAT ARE ALSO OPPOSED BY THE CITY? THEY CAN SIGN THESE.

YOU CAN JUST ENTER IT. ALL RIGHT, I WILL.

THANK YOU. CHRIS BRAINARD 101 FOR MEADOW BEND LOOP.

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MY NAME IS CHRIS BRAINARD.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF GRAPEVINE FOR A FEW YEARS, AND I'M A YOUNG ADULT WHO OWNS AND OPERATES A BUSINESS IN GRAPEVINE REALLY ENJOYED MY TIME IN GRAPEVINE AND HAVE YOUNG FRIENDS WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HERE AND EXPAND AND GROW GROW THEIR FAMILIES.

I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT GRAPEVINE HAS SO MUCH TO OFFER A BROAD RANGE OF PEOPLE DUE TO THE DIVERSITY AND ATTRACTIONS.

I'M WRITING THIS LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR GRAPEVINE SPRINGS BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT WILL CONTINUE TO DIVERSIFY THE AGE RANGE OF GRAPEVINE AND KEEPING IT DEVELOPING INTO THE BEST OF ITS ABILITY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT. I'M SORRY, MR. MISS COSTA. NINE.

FOUR. EIGHT. MEADOW. BEN. LUKE.

SORRY. MOVE THIS THING UP.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS CLARK COSTA.

948 MEADOW BEN LOOP IN GRAPEVINE, AND I AM EXPRESSING MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED GRAPEVINE SPRINGS DEVELOPMENT.

AS A RESIDENT OF GRAPEVINE FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF EXPERIENCING THE EXCEPTIONAL QUALITY OF MAKA'S HOMES.

HAVING THEM BUILD OUR FAMILY'S BEAUTIFUL NEW HOME IN SHADYBROOK GRAPEVINE, LIKE MANY THRIVING COMMUNITIES, IS FACING CHALLENGES WITH LIMITED SPACE FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION AND A SHORTAGE OF QUALITY HOMES FOR FAMILIES TO CALL THEIR OWN.

GRAPEVINE SPRINGS OFFERS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THESE PRESSING ISSUES.

THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPELLING REASONS WHY I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE APPROVED.

INCREASING HOUSING OPTIONS GRAPEVINE NEEDS MORE PLACES FOR NEW FAMILIES TO LIVE.

THE SHORTAGE OF NEW QUALITY HOMES IS A GROWING CONCERN, AND GRAPEVINE SPRINGS WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRIBUTE TO EXPANDING HOUSING OPTIONS FOR BOTH CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS.

EXCEPTIONAL QUALITY.

AGAIN, I OWN A MACOSX HOME AND MACOSX HOMES HAS A WELL-ESTABLISHED REPUTATION FOR BUILDING TOP NOTCH, WELL CRAFTED HOMES.

GRAPEVINE SPRINGS WILL CONTINUE THIS TRADITION AND UPHOLD GRAPEVINE GRAPEVINE REPUTATION FOR EXCELLENCE.

SUPPORTING FAMILIES.

FAMILIES ARE THE BACKBONE OF ANY COMMUNITY.

BY ALLOWING GRAPEVINE SPRINGS, GRAPEVINE CAN ATTRACT MORE FAMILIES, MORE YOUNG FAMILIES, HELPING TO SUSTAIN OUR COMMUNITY'S VIBRANCY.

MAXIMIZING SPACE WITH LIMITED SPACE AVAILABLE.

AS MANY SAID, THERE'S VERY LIMITED SPACE HERE, VERY LIMITED PLOTS.

WITH LIMITED SPACE AVAILABLE FOR EXPANSION.

IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE MAKE THE MOST OF THE LAND WE HAVE.

GRAPEVINE SPRINGS WOULD BE A PRUDENT USE OF THIS LIMITED SPACE AND ECONOMIC BENEFITS.

A NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CAN BRING ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO GRAPEVINE, INCLUDING INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES AND ADDITIONAL LOCAL SPENDING.

I UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE SOME OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT, BUT I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT GRAPEVINE SPRINGS ALIGNS WITH THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

GRAPEVINE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PLACE THAT VALUES PROGRESS WHILE PRESERVING ITS UNIQUE CHARM, AND THIS DEVELOPMENT CAN HELP US MAINTAIN THAT BALANCE.

I URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE LONG TERM BENEFITS AND THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN MAKING THE DECISION REGARDING GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

THIS IS A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE GRAPEVINE'S FUTURE AND ENSURE THAT IT CONTINUES TO BE A WELCOMING AND THRIVING CITY FOR ALL OF US.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

I TRUST THAT YOU WILL MAKE THE DECISION THAT BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

DAVID CUNNINGHAM 837 MEADOW BEND.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND PNC MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS DAVID CUNNINGHAM.

I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF GRAPEVINE.

MY WIFE AND I, WE MOVED HERE IN JANUARY 1982.

SO WE'VE SPENT OUR ENTIRE MARRIED LIFE HERE IN GRAPEVINE, AND WE'VE KNOWN THE MAKUS FAMILY FOR NEARLY THAT ENTIRE TIME.

MY SON ZACH AND ETHAN WENT TO SCHOOL TOGETHER AND STARTED BEING PLAYMATES WHEN THEY WERE SIX YEARS OLD.

THE MAKUS FAMILY HAS BUILT TWO HOMES FOR US, AND THEY WILL SOON BUILD A THIRD.

BECAUSE I BOUGHT A LOT IN THE FERGUSON DEVELOPMENT AND GRAPEVINE, WHERE WE WILL RETIRE AND LIVE OUT THE REST OF OUR LIFE IN GRAPEVINE.

I'M A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER.

I'VE BUILT OVER 30,000,000FT² OF OFFICE BUILDINGS, MIXED USE HOTEL, COMMERCIAL IN EIGHT MAJOR CITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

I'M A TRAINED ARCHITECT, LAND PLANNER, BUILDER, AND DEVELOPER, SO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE WHEN I SAY THIS WAS ONE OF THE NICEST, MOST

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I COMMEND THIS COUNCIL AND THIS COUNCIL FOR ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CITY OVER THE 40 YEARS THAT WE'VE LIVED HERE, BECAUSE IT'S WE'VE CREATED A WONDERFUL CITY, AND THAT'S WHY WE CONTINUE TO STAY HERE.

BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, NOT SUPPORTING THIS DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT AND HAVING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD, I AM DISAPPOINTED IN YOU TONIGHT.

I TRULY AM, AND I HOPE YOU WILL CHANGE YOUR MIND AND ALLOW THIS DEVELOPMENT TO TAKE PLACE AND BE A GREAT DEVELOPMENT THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN.

SOCRATES VILLAREAL, 109 CROSS CREEK DRIVE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

MY NAME IS SOCRATES VILLARREAL.

I LIVE AT 109 CROSS CREEK DRIVE IN GRAPEVINE.

I'M HERE BEFORE THIS AUDIENCE TO PROTEST AGAINST THE PROPOSED REQUEST AS IT STANDS, AND AS IT WAS PRESENTED TODAY TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF GRAPEVINE SPRINGS AND THE SUBSEQUENT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY.

MY HOME IS WITHIN 200FT OF THE PROPERTY UNDER REVIEW.

I'VE WATCHED CLOSELY AS THE DESIGN OF THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN ADJUSTED AND CHANGED, AND STILL THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT REMAIN.

I HAVE SEEN THE COMMUNITY SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY, AND FROM GRAPEVINE AT LARGE, BRING LETTERS AND OTHER FORMS OF PROTEST TO THE COUNCIL.

ONE CONCERN THAT HAS ME WORRIED IS THE DESIGN AND USE OF A PRIVATE ROAD BEYOND THE CONFINES OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

A PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED THE INABILITY OF SCHOOL BUSSES TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN OF THE ROAD.

TONIGHT WE WERE PRESENTED WITH A TRUE SCALE DESIGN, WHICH SHOWED A CUT CORNER ON EACH OF THOSE CORNERS OF THE ROAD.

OF GREATER CONCERN IS THE ABILITY OF GRAPEVINE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO ACCESS THESE FUTURE HOMES.

GRAPEVINE PARTICIPATES IN THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT PROGRAM, AND I HAVE HOSTED MY NEIGHBORHOODS BLOCK PARTY FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

ON A FEW OCCASIONS, WE'VE BEEN VISITED BY GRAPEVINE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S NUMBER ONE TRUCK, WHICH IS EQUIPPED WITH AN AERIAL LADDER.

THIS TRUCK IS 55 FOOT IN LENGTH AND NOT INCLUDING THE BUCKET, WHICH EXTENDS PAST THE FRONT OF THE TRUCK.

IT HAS NO PROBLEM ACCESSING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH AND DESIGN OF THE CORNERS AND THE TURNS AND THE ROAD.

A ONE ALARM FIRE CALLS FOR A BASIC RESPONSE OF A FIRE ALARM.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDS TO THE CALL WITH A MINIMUM OF AN ENGINE, A RESCUE UNIT, A LADDER TRUCK, AND AT LEAST ONE BATTALION CHIEF ON BOARD TO SUPERVISE THE LADDER TRUCK IS CRUCIAL TO THE STRATEGY OF A CITY EMPLOYEES WHEN BATTLING A FIRE.

IT SUPPORTS THE ABILITY TO SAFELY POSITION OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

IT ENABLES SEARCH AND RESCUE, AS WELL AS THE DISCHARGE OF WATER TO SUPPRESS FROM AN ELEVATED POSITION.

DESIGNING THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS DIFFICULT TO ACCESS FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL NOT ONLY ENDANGER THE PROPOSED HOUSES, BUT ALSO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, WHICH SO HAPPEN TO BE WHERE MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS LIVE.

ALSO PRESENTED TONIGHT WAS A NEW DEMOGRAPHIC, A NEW GRAPH THAT WE WEREN'T PRESENTED WITH BEFORE, WHICH SHOWS THE LINE OF SIGHT IN THAT PICTURE OF THE LINE OF SIGHT.

IT SHOWS A VEHICLE PARKED ON THAT ROAD WITH THE PARTITION WALL.

EVEN ETHAN HIMSELF BELIEVES THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE VEHICLES PARKED ON THAT ROAD.

IF YOU ADD THAT VEHICLE TO THE ALREADY NARROW ROAD, IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE CHALLENGING, NOT JUST FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, BUT FOR ANYBODY TO GET THROUGH THAT ROAD.

PLEASE CONSIDER ALL THE SOUND REASONING PRESENTED IN ALL THESE FORMS OF OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED CHANGE WHEN VOTING TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT. RACHEL JACKSON, 500 DOVE CREEK PLACE.

HELLO, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

I AM HERE IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL OF THE OTHER PROTESTERS.

I AM AGAINST THIS ZONING CHANGE, AND I JUST WANT TO BRING UP TWO NEW ISSUES.

I BOUGHT MY HOME IN JULY OF 2022, AND WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY, I KNEW THE UNDEVELOPED LAND BEHIND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL BUT WOULD NOT STAY UNDEVELOPED.

SO THE FIRST THING I DID BEFORE I EVER PUT DOWN AN OFFER WAS TO CALL THE CITY AND FIND OUT HOW THE LAND WAS ZONED, AND I LIKED THAT IT WAS ZONED FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE I FELT LIKE THAT REALLY ENSURED MY PRIVACY.

ANY BUILDINGS WOULD LIKELY BE FACING TOWARDS THE HIGHWAY AWAY FROM MY HOME, WHICH IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

IT WOULD BE SINGLE STORY, SO THERE WOULD BE NO WAY FOR SOMEBODY TO SEE OVER THE FENCE, AND IT WOULD LIKELY BE QUIET ON NIGHTS AND

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THIS CURRENT PLAN HAS ONE HOME THAT IS JUST SIX FEET AWAY FROM MY FENCE, A TWO STORY HOME THAT WOULD LOOK DIRECTLY INTO MY BACKYARD AND EVEN INTO MY BEDROOM WINDOW.

MY HOME IS BUILT UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER FROM OTHERS, AND SO MY WINDOWS ARE ALL ABOVE THAT FENCE LEVEL, AND SO PEOPLE CAN LOOK DIRECTLY INTO MY HOME FROM A TWO STORY BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME.

SO THAT IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR ME AS A SINGLE WOMAN.

MY PRIVACY AND MY SECURITY WHEN I AM IN HOME, AT HOME ARE OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE TO ME.

AND SO THOSE ARE THAT'S A GREAT CONCERN OF MINE.

THE OTHER MAJOR CONCERN I HAVE IS THE RETAINING WALL THAT IS BEING SUGGESTED IMMEDIATELY BEHIND MY HOUSE.

FOR ONE THING, IT'S NOT ON ANYONE'S PROPERTY, SO IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME WHO WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF MAINTAINING THAT.

JUST AS THE MAYOR SAID, WHEN THERE'S NO ONE MAINTAINING THE STREETS, IT'S A PROBLEM.

THAT RETAINING WALL HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON ALL OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH OF IT.

AND IF THERE'S NOBODY IN CHARGE OF OF MAINTAINING IT, THEN IT COULD HAVE MASSIVE IMPACTS ON OUR HOMES.

I ALSO HEARD THEM SAYING THAT DRAINAGE FROM THAT AREA WOULD NOT BE SIGNIFICANT ONTO THE STREET.

BUT I KNOW IN OUR HOMES WE HAVE MAJOR DRAINAGE PROBLEMS AND WE CAN GET 1 TO 2FT OF STANDING WATER ON OUR BACK FENCES.

THAT ALL EVENTUALLY DRAINS BACK INTO THE CREEK AREA, AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION OF THE LAND.

AND SO I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED WITH A STREET BEING RIGHT THERE WITH THAT KIND OF DRAINAGE OVERFLOW.

SO FOR THOSE REASONS, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TONIGHT, I DO OPPOSE THIS ZONING CHANGE.

I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MARK MATLIN.

WAIT JUST A MINUTE. SOMEBODY SAID IT'S FREEZING IN HERE.

HOLD YOUR HAND UP IF YOU'RE COLD.

ARE Y'ALL COLD? ALL RIGHT. IT IS COLD UP HERE.

THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT JUSTIN.

TEMPERATURE. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT. MARK MATLIN, 961 MEADOW BEND LOOP.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MARK MATLIN.

I LIVE AT 961 MEADOW BEND LOOP IN GRAPEVINE.

I'VE LIVED IN THIS AREA SINCE I GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE IN 1988, AND IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

I'VE GOT THREE GROWN DAUGHTERS NOW, ALL OF WHICH HAVE MOVED BACK AND ARE HAVING KIDS.

THE YOUNGER GENERATION NEEDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND WHAT MARCUS HAS PRESENTED HERE IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THE MINIMUM ENTRY.

THE CITY NEXT DOOR IS 1,000,005 IN SOUTHLAKE.

KIDS COMING OUT OF COLLEGE CAN'T DO THAT.

THESE HOUSES THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE HALF OF THAT.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS WORK WITH THE MARCUS'S.

THEY'VE WORKED WITH YOU IN THE PAST.

THEY'LL WORK WITH YOU ON WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE.

I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA.

THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH WHAT TO DO WITH IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. NEXT BILL MCNABNEY 1350.

AND I'M SORRY I CAN'T READ THE ADDRESS.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME PARTICIPATE IN THIS.

I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS SHORT.

I KNOW BECAUSE TIME AND SO FORTH WITH EVERYTHING, BUT I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE MACOSX DEVELOPMENT.

I LIVE ON WORTHINGTON STREET, WHICH IS ONE BLOCK OFF OF NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, AND WHEN THAT COMMUNITY THAT RESIDENTS WHEN THEY PASSED IN THAT LAND, I WAS REALLY CONCERNED THAT THAT LAND NEXT TO ME WAS GOING TO GO COMMERCIAL.

AND LUCKILY IT DIDN'T.

AND MACOSX CAME IN AND ARE DEVELOPING AN AREA RIGHT THERE BY MY STREET.

BUT THAT HELPS MY PROPERTY VALUES, AND I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE CONCERNS.

BUT I HAVE 30 YEARS IN ELECTRONIC SECURITY.

I'M A SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF SALES.

COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, INCREASED CRIME.

THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN GET AROUND THAT.

AND I THINK THE PROPERTY VALUES WILL BE AFFECTED BY PUTTING BUILDINGS IN NEXT TO, YOU KNOW, AREAS.

AND IF WE'RE REAL WORRIED ABOUT TREES, IF YOU THINK THEY CARE ABOUT TREES WHEN THEY'RE MAKING A PARKING LOT, THEY DON'T.

SO I KNOW THE MAKERS PERSONALLY, I THINK THEY'RE A LOCAL BUSINESS.

THIS ISN'T A NATIONAL TRACK BUILDER THAT'S GOING TO COME IN AND PUT UP A BUNCH OF DIRT.

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THANK YOU. NEXT.

565 DOVE CREEK CIRCLE.

GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND CONSIDERING THE EXISTING RESIDENTS CONCERNS.

MY NAME IS KOBIN KAYDICK.

MY WIFE MARGIE AND I HAVE LIVED AT 565 DOVE CREEK CIRCLE FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS.

WE'RE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IS THE GREEN SPACE BEHIND IT.

THE LOT THAT MARCUS IS PROPOSING TO BUILD ON IS NOT AN EMPTY FIELD.

IT'S ONE OF THE LAST AREAS IN GRAPEVINE WITH OLD GROWTH TREES THAT'S NOT NEAR THE LAKE.

AND WE'VE SEEN BOBCATS, FOXES, OWLS, RED TAILED HAWKS.

ET CETERA ON THE LAND.

I KNOW THE PLAN IS TO KEEP THE TREES TOWARDS THE MIDDLE OF THE LOT, BUT A LOT OF THE TREES ON THE NORTH SIDE NEXT TO OUR YARD WILL BE TAKEN OUT.

AND THE BUILDER STILL HASN'T ADDRESSED THIS CONCERN.

I ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE.

I WISH I COULD SHOW YOU A VIDEO FROM MY PHONE HERE WITH THE HEAVY RAINSTORM RECENTLY, BUT OUR BACKYARD BASICALLY TURNED INTO A RIVER.

A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WATER FLOWS DOWNHILL TOWARDS THAT CREEK, AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE DEALING WITH ANY DRAINAGE ISSUES YEARS DOWN THE LINE CAUSED BY THAT RETAINING WALL.

SO OUR MAIN CONCERN IS THE PROXIMITY OF THE ROAD AND THE RETAINING WALL TO OUR BACKYARD FENCE.

THERE'S ESSENTIALLY ZERO ROOM TO GROW A PRIVACY FENCE OF VEGETATION, AND IF THERE WAS, IT WOULD TAKE YEARS TO GROW IN THE TREES THAT ARE KEEPING.

I'M SORRY, THE TREES THAT THEY ARE KEEPING ARE BENEFICIAL TO THE NEW HOUSES, BUT NOT REALLY TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTS.

SO OUR SECOND CONCERN IS THE NOISE FROM THE 1 TO 2 YEAR CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.

I WORK FROM HOME AND I'M ON ZOOM MEETINGS ALL DAY, AND MY WIFE, MARGIE IS A NIGHTSHIFT NURSE AT BAYLOR GRAPEVINE SO SHE SLEEPS DURING THE DAY AND IT'LL JUST BE A SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTION TO ALL OF OUR LIVES.

SO WE IMPLORE YOU TO KEEP THE SINGLE STORY OFFICE ZONING AS PER THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN.

I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE DID RECEIVE A NOTICE ON OUR DOOR IN JULY TO MEET WITH THE BUILDER, BUT THE MEETING WINDOW WAS VERY SHORT NOTICE, SO A LOT OF RESIDENTS COULDN'T MAKE IT AT SUCH A LAST MINUTE NOTIFICATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT. KYLE KROGH 328.

TILLERY. CIRCLE.

HOW MANY MORE DO YOU HAVE? THIS IS THE LAST ONE I HAVE, SIR.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE.

CAL 0328.

HILARY, I HAVE COME TONIGHT TO VOICE MY SUPPORT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

I WROTE DOWN A FEW TALKING POINTS.

ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS BEING THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR FAMILIES.

AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S A LACK OF LAND HERE.

AND AS PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, NEIGHBORING CITIES, IT'S KIND OF OUT OF PEOPLE'S BUDGET, LIKE ME.

AND I'VE GOT FRIENDS THAT WANT TO BE HERE.

THE WAY THIS IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE POINTS THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP.

HATE TO BREAK IT TO YOU, BUT COMMERCIAL DOESN'T SOLVE ANY OF THOSE THINGS EITHER.

THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.

ANOTHER THING THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED IS THE HISTORY.

AND I'M A FAN OF THE GREENERY OUT THERE.

THE FORESTRY.

WHEN OUR HOME WAS BEING BUILT IN TILLERY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ENJOYED DOING WAS GOING AND SITTING UP ON THE SECOND STOREY AND LOOKING OUT AT THE AT THE GREENERY AND BEING ABLE TO JUST KIND OF TAKE IT ALL IN.

SO I'M WITH YOU ON THAT.

UM, TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORY, SOMEBODY MENTIONED A GOOD POINT ABOUT WHAT THIS WAS USED FOR BACK IN THE DAY, AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY INDIAN TRIBES THAT THAT CAME AND DWELLED THERE.

GRAPEVINE EVEN HAS A GREAT LANDMARK ABOUT HOW INDIAN TRIBES CAME TOGETHER, AND WE REACHED A TREATY WITH ONE ANOTHER.

LET'S CONSIDER OUR HISTORY AND THINK BACK IN THAT DAY WHEN THE INDIANS WERE ON THIS LAND, WERE THEY SITTING THERE FIRING OFF POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND SENDING OUT TEXT MESSAGES AND WRITING EMAILS ABOUT HOW THEY, UNLIKE WHAT THEIR NEIGHBORS WERE DOING ON THE OTHER SIDE? I DON'T THINK SO.

UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S COME TOGETHER, FIGURE OUT A GOOD WAY THAT THIS LAND CAN BE USED.

AND I BELIEVE WHAT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED INCORPORATES ALL OF THE HISTORICAL ASPECTS OF IT IN A VERY GOOD WAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES THE REQUEST.

YES, SIR. ANY OTHER CORRESPONDENCE YOU WANT TO PRESENT? I DON'T HAVE ANY. MR.

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WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVE TO CLOSE. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION HAS VOTED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

MOVE TO CLOSE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU ALL WANT TO TAKE A BREAK, OR DO YOU WANT TO KEEP GOING? READY TO GO? YOU'RE READY.

ALL RIGHT. WHAT ABOUT THE COUNCIL? LET'S KEEP GOING. LET'S. LET'S AT LEAST DO THE NEXT CASE.

DOES ANYBODY HOT NOW? I'M HOT. PEOPLE ARE WARM NOW.

I GOT NINE MORE TO GO.

I KNOW, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THROUGH THE SECOND CASE.

[3. Conditional Use Permit CU23-21 (Mohler MMA) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Shawna Mohler requesting a conditional use permit to allow for a 2,056 square foot training area expansion along the southern elevation to the existing fitness studio specializing in mixed martial arts. The subject property is located at 201 North Starnes Street and is currently zoned “HC”, Highway Commercial District. This is the first reading. The second reading will be held on December 19, 2023.]

THIS REQUEST IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN EXISTING MIXED MARTIAL ARTS FITNESS STUDIO.

IT'S PRESENTLY ZONED HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

IT'S DEVELOPED WITH A FREESTANDING COMMERCIAL BUILDING ON APPROXIMATELY 1.19 ACRES, AND THE EXISTING BUILDING IS 10,620FT².

THE PROPERTY OWNER IS PROPOSING AN EXPANSION ALONG THE PROPERTY'S SOUTHERN ELEVATION, OR THE BUILDING'S SOUTHERN ELEVATION, OF 2056FT², FOR ADDITIONAL TRAINING AREA.

TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING FOR THIS FITNESS STUDIO IS 50 SPACES AND 64 SPACES ARE PROVIDED.

IF APPROVED, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE GIVEN THE SUBJECT SITE REQUIRES APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO ALLOW VEHICLE PARKING WITHIN THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD ADJACENT TO THE EAST PROPERTY LINE, THE REQUIRED SIDE YARD ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE, AND TO ALLOW EXCEPTIONS FROM SECTION 53 LANDSCAPING REGULATIONS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THESE ITEMS SHOULD BE HEARD BY THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT AND HAVE BEEN NOTICED FOR THE DECEMBER 4TH MEETING.

IF APPROVED BY THE BOARD, THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE WILL TAKE PLACE AT YOUR MEETING ON DECEMBER 19TH.

THE PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT, BROCK JONES, IS PRESENT THIS EVENING REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER.

HE'S PREPARED A PRESENTATION AND AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL AND COMMISSION PURPOSE.

MY NAME IS BROCK JONES, REPRESENTING 201 NORTH STAR STREET HERE IN GRAPEVINE.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED 2056FT² ADDITION TO THE EXISTING BUILDING AT 201 NORTH STURGEON STREET.

THE FITNESS CENTER, MUELLER MARTIAL ARTS, IS SEEING GROWTH DUE TO ITS INCREASED POPULARITY AND IDEAL CENTRAL LOCATION HERE IN GRAPEVINE.

TO MEET THIS DEMAND TO CONTINUE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY EFFECTIVELY, WE PROPOSE AN EXPANSION PROJECT THAT INVOLVES ADDING EXTRA TRAINING SPACE TO THE EXISTING FACILITY.

THE NEW SPACE WILL BE SEAMLESSLY, SEAMLESSLY INTEGRATED WITH THE EXISTING FACILITY AND WILL PROVIDE SERVICES TO ENHANCE THE OVERALL MEMBER EXPERIENCE.

THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVES OF THIS EXPANSION PROJECT ARE TO ENHANCE MEMBER EXPERIENCE, INCREASE CAPACITY, IMPROVE REVENUE STREAMS, AND TO CONTINUE SERVING AS A COMMUNITY HUB FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS. PROMOTING OVERALL WELL-BEING.

OUR EXTERIOR ESTHETIC WILL MATCH WHAT IS EXISTING ALREADY.

WE WILL USE A SIMILAR CEMENT PLASTER PAINTED BLACK TO MATCH EXISTING EXTERIOR PAINT.

THE ROOF SHAPE WILL BE A CONTINUATION OF THE CURRENT SLOPED ROOF.

MOST OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS WILL STAY AS IS.

WE WILL RELOCATE THE ROLL OF DOORS AND SIDE DOOR TO THE NEW EXISTING EXTERIOR WALL TO CREATE A SECONDARY ENTRANCE.

WITH CAREFUL PLANNING, A DEDICATED PROJECT TEAM AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT, WE AIM TO SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THIS PROJECT AND CONTINUE OUR MISSION OF PROMOTING HEALTH, FITNESS AND WELL-BEING FOR YEARS TO COME.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE POSITIVE IMPACT THIS EXPANSION WILL HAVE ON OUR MEMBERS AND THE BROADER COMMUNITY.

HERE WE HAVE A COUPLE IMAGES.

THE IMAGE YOU SEE ON THE LEFT ON THE SCREEN IS WHAT IS EXISTING TODAY, AND IT'S A STATE OF THE ART FITNESS FACILITY THAT SPECIALIZES IN MIXED MARTIAL ARTS.

THAT'S WHAT THE MMA STANDS FOR, NOT ONLY FOR IT'S NOT ONLY USED FOR SELF-DEFENSE, BUT ALSO FOR SELF DISCIPLINE.

AND THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS THE EXISTING FACILITY.

IT'S MAIN TRAINING SPACE AS IT IS TODAY.

AGAIN, STATE OF THE ART FACILITY.

ONE OF THE BEST IN THE NOT ONLY THE AREA BUT THE WHOLE STATE.

AND THIS IS THIS IS SOMEWHAT WHAT THE THE NEW ADDITION INTERIOR WILL LOOK LIKE AS WELL.

THIS IS THE AREA OF CONCERN WHERE WE WILL BE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDING ON TO.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW, IT IS NOT BEING USED PROPERLY.

IT IS A LEFTOVER DOC FROM THE PREVIOUS USE OF THE BUILDING.

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THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THE QUESTION IS, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST REAL QUICK, HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO FILL UP THAT GIANT HOLE? SO THE I THINK WE FIRST ADDRESSED WHAT'S THERE ALREADY, WHICH IS SOME EXISTING SUMP PUMPS THAT IS NOT BEING USED.

SO FIRST REMOVE ANY SORT OF PLUMBING OR MECHANICAL SYSTEMS THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN WE WILL REMOVE THE RETAINING WALLS THAT'S IN THE PERIMETER RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN INFILL WITH DIRT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS HERE.

IT'S NICE THAT YOUR BUSINESS IS EXPANDING, AND YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ABOUT 20% MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE THERE.

DID YOU EVER THINK ABOUT TRYING TO DO ANYTHING IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY? YES, SIR. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A GREATER AREA, LANDSCAPING.

ONE AREA TO THE SOUTH WEST AREA OF THE BUILDING, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON ON THE PLAN, ON THE LANDSCAPING PLAN.

THERE'S NO EXISTING LANDSCAPING THERE NOW, BUT WE WILL BE AIMING TO ADD SOME THERE ALSO TO THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE, ADDING LANDSCAPING THERE AS WELL.

AND THE WAY THAT WE THE WAY THAT WE GOT THE THE OWNERS ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY IN THE FRONT YARD AND THE SIDE YARD.

THERE WAS NO LANDSCAPING THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAD A CONCERN WAS ABOUT PARKING IN THE STREET.

IT WOULD APPEAR YOU HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR YOUR FACILITY, BUT YOU STILL HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO PARK IN THE STREET.

IS THAT. YES.

I THINK THERE'S SOME WAYS WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.

LIKE YOU SAID, WE ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENT AND WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVE 15 SPACES OVER THE REQUIREMENT.

AND I THINK WE CAN ALSO ENCOURAGE OUR, OUR, OUR COACHES AND OUR OWNERSHIP TO RELAY THAT MESSAGE TO THE STUDENTS. I'VE TRIED TO AVOID PARKING IN THE STREET AND TO USE THE PROVIDED PARKING ON THE SITE.

NO OTHER QUESTION. QUESTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE PARKING.

THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS UP THERE THAT FRONT ON THE NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

IF YOU CAN, DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THE PLAT OR I CAN PUT IT UNDER THE SHEET.

I CAN PUT IT UNDER THE NIGHT CAMERA.

OKAY. MISS MAROHNIC, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL CAN USE THE OVERHEAD AGAIN.

WHAT? I'M GETTING AT THE TWO BUILDINGS UP ON FRONT, ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT LARGE PARKING AREA THAT FRONTS UP THERE ON THE NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

YES, MA'AM. AND SO YOU OWN ALL OF THAT PROPERTY THAT'S WITHIN THE THE REALLY DARK HATCHED AREA, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY.

THIS IS OUR PROPERTY LINE RIGHT HERE.

YES. AND IT NEEDS THE TWO LOTS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE TWO LOTS.

WHERE DO THEY PARK? BECAUSE THEY DO NOT APPEAR TO HAVE ANY OF THEIR PARKING OF THEIR OWN.

CORRECT. THAT THEY OWN NOT WHERE WE'RE SHOWING NOW.

THEY DO HAVE A FEW SPOTS ON THEIR FRONT YARD BECAUSE OUR SIDE YARD HERE AND THEN ALSO ON THE CORNER HERE IS WHERE THEY ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO PARK.

HOWEVER, SOMETIMES WE DO SEE THEM PARKING ON OUR PROPERTY, AND I THINK THAT DOES CORRELATE TO SOME OF THE PARKING ON THE STREET ISSUE AS WELL.

OKAY, SO YOU THINK IT'S SOME OF THE CUSTOMERS FROM THOSE BUILDINGS UP THERE THAT MAY BE PARKING ON THE STREET? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT THAT TOO THAT IS ALSO HAPPENING.

OKAY. SO YOU DON'T LET THEM PARK IN IN YOUR PARKING LOT.

CORRECT. EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT.

OKAY. WHAT IS THE.

BUILDING MATERIAL USE THAT BUILDING, THAT BLACK BUILDING.

IS THAT LIKE, WHAT'S THAT MADE UP? OH, YEAH. THOSE TWO OTHER BUILDINGS DO NOT NOT THIS THIS CEMENTITIOUS PLASTER IS PAINTED BLACK.

OKAY. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A METAL SIDING.

SIDING THAT'S USED AS A, AS A SECONDARY MATERIAL THAT'S MOSTLY STUCCO.

AND THAT'D BE THE SAME THING ON THIS EXPANSION.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT THIS CASE.

YEAH. IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, YOU HAVE 15 MORE PARKING SPACES AND PLENTY OF PARKING.

YOU GOT PLENTY OF PARKING. CORRECT.

AND YOU SEE, AND WE DO WE DO SEE SOME INCREASED CAPACITY, ESPECIALLY ON NIGHTS WHERE MAYBE THEY DO PROMOTIONS, WHERE THEY DO INVITE FAMILY TO COME IN TO EXPERIENCE THE PROMOTIONS, THE BELT BELT, PROMOTIONS TO THE STUDENTS.

AND SO YOU DO SEE SOME INCREASED CAPACITY AT AT SOME POINTS OF THE YEAR, WHICH ONLY THEN THOSE THOSE ONLY HAPPEN.

THOSE HAPPEN ONLY A FEW TIMES A YEAR.

BUT THOSE EXTRA SPACES SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT.

THEY SHOULD. YES, MA'AM.

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AND I'LL TELL YOU, IT IS HIGHLY THOUGHT OF.

IT'S WELL REGARDED IN THE AREA.

YOU KNOW, WHENEVER HE GOES TO TOURNAMENTS.

OH, YOU'RE FROM MOELLER. WELL, THAT'S PRETTY AWESOME.

SO WE'RE THRILLED TO HAVE YOU GUYS HERE IN TOWN.

YES, SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT A LOT.

YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU HAVE A LOT OF OUR YOUTH THAT GO THERE, AND IT GIVES A PLACE FOR OUR KIDS TO GO AND KIND OF BURN OFF SOME ENERGY IN A GOOD WAY.

YES, SIR. WE LIKE TO PROMOTE YOUTH ACTIVITY AS WELL AS TRAINING GRAPEVINE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.

APPARENTLY NOT. THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE? YES, SIR. THERE'S ONE LETTER OF OPPOSITION IN FRONT OF YOU.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? NO, SIR, I DO NOT. ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVE TO CLOSE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSION CLOSED A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

MOVE TO CLOSE SECOND IN FAVOR? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN ON CONDITIONAL USE.

[4. Conditional Use Permit CU23-30 and Historic Landmark Sub-District HL23-02 (House of Shine) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Josh Archer, Exurb Studio, requesting a conditional use permit for an artisan studio featuring exhibits and City Council November 21, 2023 Page 2 outdoor space and a Historic Landmark sub-district. The subject property is located at 317 Church Street and is currently zoned “CBD”, Central Business District.]

DISTRICT 20 3-2 ERICA MAROHNIC.

THIS REQUEST IS BOTH A CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST AND A HISTORIC LANDMARK SUBDISTRICT REQUEST.

I'LL SPEAK FIRST TO THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED CBD FOR CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, AND THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED WITH TWO FREESTANDING STRUCTURES ON APPROXIMATELY ONE HALF AN ACRE. ADDRESSED AT 317 SOUTH CHURCH STREET, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN ARTISAN STUDIO, WHICH WILL FEATURE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR EXHIBIT SPACE AND OFFICE SPACE.

THE PROPERTY IS PROPOSED TO BE REIMAGINED BY DEMOLISHING THE EXISTING 1300 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, WHICH IS PRESENTLY SITTING CLOSEST TO SOUTH CHURCH STREET, AND IN ITS PLACE, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A 3600 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, WHICH, AS MENTIONED, WILL FEATURE OFFICE AND EXHIBIT HALL.

THE EXISTING ACCESSORY BUILDING, KNOWN AS THE RED BARN ON SITE, IS PROPOSED TO BE RELOCATED TO THE REAR OF THE LOT AND IMPROVED AND INCORPORATED INTO AN OVERALL OUTDOOR INTERACTIVE SPACE.

PRIMARY ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY IS PROPOSED TO BE THROUGH AN EXISTING HOUSE OF SHINE LOCATION, WHICH IS ACTUALLY TO THE EAST AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT THEIR LOCATION AT 33 FOUR SOUTH BARTON STREET.

THE PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 317 SOUTH CHURCH STREET, WILL BE CONNECTED TO THE BARTON STREET PROPERTY THROUGH A THIRD LOT.

I CAN SHOW YOU HERE, WHICH IS PLOTTED AS LOT TWO OF THE HOUSE OF COLORS EDITION, WHERE ADDITIONAL IMPROVED INTERACTIVE OUTDOOR SPACE IS PROPOSED TO BE FENCED AND GATED. REQUIRED PARKING FOR THIS REDEVELOPMENT OF 317 SOUTH CHURCH IS 16 PARKING SPACES.

SIX ARE PROPOSED TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON SITE.

THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED A PARKING PLAN WHICH IS PROVIDED IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS, WHICH SHOWS 48 PARKING SPACES ADJACENT TO THEIR BARTON STREET LOCATION.

THE APPLICANT HAS IDENTIFIED VARIOUS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARKING LOTS ADJACENT TO CHURCH BARTON AND JENKINS STREET FOR THE REMAINING NEEDED SPACES.

THE HISTORIC LANDMARK SUBDISTRICT REQUEST.

THIS SUBJECT SITE WAS THE LOCATION OF THE AMBROSE AND SUSAN FOSTER CABIN, WHICH RECEIVED A LAND GRANT AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL SURVEY OF THE TOWN OF GRAPEVINE IN THE 1840S. THE EXISTING STRUCTURE UPFRONT ON THE PROPERTY WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1917, AND THE FOLK VICTORIAN STYLE BY D.W.

AND MARY SAMMONS JORDAN.

THIS HOUSE WAS HEAVILY ALTERED IN THE 1990S WHEN A NEW ADDITION WAS PROVIDED TO THE REAR.

THEY ENCLOSED THE FRONT PORCH, AND NEW WOOD SIDING AND A GABLE ROOF WERE CONSTRUCTED.

THERE IS ALSO A ONE CAR DETACHED GARAGE.

THIS IS WHAT WE'VE REFERRED TO AS THE RED BARN THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE 1940S, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE RELOCATED TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH NUMEROUS PROMINENT GRAPEVINE FAMILIES AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL TOWNSHIP, AND WITHIN THE GRAPEVINE HISTORIC TOWNSHIP DISTRICT.

THIS HISTORIC LANDMARK SUBDISTRICT AND ASSOCIATED CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN CONSIDERED AND APPROVED, AND ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AT THEIR MEETING ON OCTOBER 25TH, 2023.

THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

THE PROPERTY OWNERS, MR. RICHARD AND DR. CLAUDIA BINI, ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO SPEAK WITH YOU AND HAVE PREPARED A PRESENTATION AND AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

ERIKA, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO BACK TO THE PARKING STUDY? SO ON D IT SAYS 45 PARKING SHARED.

THAT IS THAT'S THE LOT THAT HOUSES SHARRON CURRENTLY USES.

CORRECT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY CURRENTLY CURRENTLY UTILIZE IT.

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IT IS A PRIVATE PARKING LOT THAT THE CITY HAS A PARKING AGREEMENT TO UTILIZE DURING DAYTIME BUSINESS HOURS UNTIL 5 P.M..

YES. FOR THE PUBLIC.

FOR THE PUBLIC? YES. PUBLIC PARKING LOTS.

RIGHT. BUT IT IS PRIVATELY OWNED PARKING.

ARE THEY PROVIDING ON SITE FOR THEIR OWN FACILITY? SIX PARKING SPACES.

THEY NEED TEN MORE NOW.

RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE NONE. THEY NEED THEIR TEN SHORT.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANKS.

THERE'S THERE'S. EXCUSE ME JUST A MINUTE.

THERE IS SOMETHING IN HERE.

I THINK IT'S MAYBE IN ONE OF THEIR DOCUMENTS THAT SAID THEY NEEDED 24 PARKING SPACES, AND I HAD HEARD THAT EARLIER.

NOW I'M SEEING HEARING 16.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A RECALCULATION OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

SO THAT THERE'S 24 REQUIRED ON THE ON THIS STUDY.

IT SAYS PARKING REQUIRED 24, BUT IT DOES SAY 16 IN HERE.

YEAH. ON THE SPREADSHEET IT SAYS YOU'RE RIGHT.

ON THE SPREADSHEET IT SAYS 24 PARKING REQUIRED.

BUT THE CURRENT HOUSE OF SHINE HAS NO SPACES, NONE OF THEIR OWN ON THEIR CURRENT LOCATION.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PARKING.

IT'S ALL THE PUBLIC PARKING.

YEAH. THAT'S. WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? THAT'S.

PLAYING THESE GREAT. THE SITE PLAN IS CORRECT.

DO YOU THINK? 16.

ALBERTS CONFIRMED THAT THEY ONLY NEED 16 PARKING SPACES BASED ON OUR CALCULATIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT'S JUST FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

CORRECT? HOW DO YOU CALCULATE PARKING FOR THE MUSEUM EXHIBIT HALL? WHAT IS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR REQUIREMENT IS FOR THAT.

THAT'S KIND OF A UNIQUE USE.

GOOD EVENING. IT'S ONE PARKING SPACE PER 400FT².

ONE PARKING SPACE PER 400FT².

SO IS THERE NO STIPULATION ABOUT WHAT THE BUILDING IS USED FOR? YOU KNOW, IF YOU I WOULD THINK.

I WOULDN'T THINK THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WOULD JUST BE SUFFICIENT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT PARKING WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SORT OF EVENT SPACE AND MUSEUM AND THAT SORT OF THING.

THAT'S ALL WE USE IS A 400 SQUARE FOOT.

YES, MA'AM. ONE PARKING SPACE PER 400FT².

THAT'S CORRECT. DID THEY PROVIDE YOU THE TYPES OF EVENTS AND WHAT THE DRAW WOULD BE FOR THOSE EVENTS? CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? I'M SORRY.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU SAY EVENTS.

SO DID THEY PROVIDE YOU THE TYPES OF EVENTS AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS ATTENDANCE GOES? MR. LEAL, WE HAVEN'T SPOKEN ABOUT EVENTS.

WELL, YOU SAID IT'S AN EVENT SPACE.

NO, WE EXHIBIT SPACE EXHIBITS.

SO YOU HAVE AN EXHIBIT.

SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO THE EXHIBIT.

DO THEY HAVE AN IDEA OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE EXHIBIT AS OPPOSED TO AN EVENT? OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WOULD BE REQUIRE SOME TYPE OF TICKETING OR PRE-PURCHASE, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONTROL THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING INTO AND OUT OF THE SITE. SO LIKE 16 PEOPLE PERHAPS.

WE HEAR FROM THE WELL, LET'S LET'S LET THEM TELL US IT'S NOT LET'S LET THEM SHARE.

LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THIS.

ALBERT, HOW IS THE PARKING CALCULATED FOR THE AMPHITHEATER? I SEE THEY'RE PROPOSING AN AMPHITHEATER AS WELL.

MA'AM, HOW WOULD THE PARKING BE CALCULATED FOR AN AMPHITHEATER? THEY'RE PROPOSING AN AMPHITHEATER.

WE'RE ONLY CALCULATING THE PARKING BASED ON THE STRUCTURES, NOT THE OUTDOOR SPACE.

OKAY ORDINANCE ONLY REQUIRES IT TO BE ON THE THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING.

RIGHT. SO THE WAY WE HAVE THIS CALCULATED, THERE'S A PARKING REQUIRED FOR THE OFFICE THAT'S WITHIN THE BUILDING.

AND THEN THERE'S THE GALLERY EXHIBIT SPACE.

AND THEN WE ALSO INCLUDE THE PORCH AND THE TERRACE AND THEN THE RED BARN EXHIBIT, ASSUMING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ANY PEOPLE USING THAT SPACE. THAT'S NOT A CALCULABLE SPACE.

WE USE THE STRUCTURES.

YES, SIR. YOU MISS CALCULATED IT, THEN YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE THE USES.

YOU GOT TO INCLUDE THE USES, NOT JUST THE BUILDING.

BECAUSE OF THE USE THAT'S BEING CONTEMPLATED.

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WE USE THE PARKING THAT'S SHOWN IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, MAYOR.

WELL, IT'S WRONG.

IT DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE THE PUBLIC.

YES, SIR. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? WELL, YOU AGREE WITH THAT.

IT DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO USE THE PROPERTY.

I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, MAYOR.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

WILL YOU? I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.

I'D HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION, MAYOR, BEFORE THEY COME UP.

OH, THIS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE OFFICE IS 1100.

AND YOU SAID THE BUILDING.

SO OBVIOUSLY IT'S A 3700 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

SO 1100, IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY, 1100 IS FOR THE OFFICE.

IS THE OFFICE? YES, MA'AM. WHICH THAT'S FIVE PLUS ONE PER 305 PLUS ONE PER 300.

CORRECT. FOR 300.

AND THEN GALLERY.

AND I ASSUME THERE'S A CALCULATION FOR PORCH.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE BARN GETS COUNTED, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU CALCULATED THAT.

WELL, IT WAS ONE PARKING SPACE PER 400 SQUARE FOOT FOR THE GALLERY AND BARN.

OKAY, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND NOW YOU JUST DIDN'T INCLUDE THE OUTDOOR SPACE AT ALL, RIGHT? CORRECT. I DON'T HAVE A PROVISION TO DO THAT.

CORRECT. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND NOW.

OKAY. LET'S HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

SORRY TO MEAN TO START ANYTHING.

OKAY. GOOD NIGHT.

MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING I REPRESENT.

I'M THE OWNER OF OF THE PROPERTY THAT THE HOUSE OF SHINE SITS ON.

I'M ALSO ON THE BOARD, AND WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT WHAT WE VIEW AS A VERY SMALL ENHANCEMENT TO THE PROPERTY. AND THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION ALREADY ABOUT PARKING.

BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY IN THE SPACE THAN WE ARE TODAY, AND WE HAVE SIX FULL TIME EMPLOYEES TODAY.

AND BY OUR VIEW, WE'RE GAINING SIX PARKING SPACES THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.

SOMEBODY ASKED, WHAT WERE THE EXHIBITS? I THINK I CAN MAYBE SHED A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT.

DO I JUST CLICK THROUGH? YEAH. OKAY, SO THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE, HOUSE OF SHINE.

AND YOU'LL SEE EXAMPLES IN THE PICTURES OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO.

SO THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON BUILDING COMMUNITIES.

WHETHER THAT BUILDING PROCESS TAKES PLACE BY EDUCATING MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, BY DOING CURRICULUM IN SCHOOLS OR HOSTING SOME OF THE EVENTS LIKE YOU SEE HERE, THE LARGER EVENTS THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING IN OTHER PUBLIC SPACES, LIKE THE VINE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THIS SPACE AND SAYING, OH, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO INCREASE THE FOOTPRINT SO WE CAN JAM A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN HERE.

REALLY, WHAT WE'RE FINDING OURSELVES STUCK WITH IS EXISTING EXHIBITS ARE KIND OF JAMMED INTO A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT.

SO IF YOU WERE TO GO TO THE HOUSE OF SHINE TODAY, THERE IS AN EXISTING EXHIBIT ABOUT SHINE CAPSULES.

AND SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY TOOK A GROUP OF STUDENTS AS KINDERGARTNERS, AND THEY CREATED SHINE CAPSULES FOR THEMSELVES.

THE ORGANIZATION STORED THOSE SHINE CAPSULES UNTIL THOSE STUDENTS BECAME SENIORS.

AND THEN THEY HAD A BIG GRAND OPENING EVENT.

THE KIDS CAME IN.

AND SO THE DISPLAY THAT'S CURRENTLY ON EXHIBIT AT THE HOUSE OF SHINE TODAY IS SHOWING SOME OF THOSE STUDENTS WHAT WAS IN THEIR SHINE CAPSULES, WHAT THEY LEARNED THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY HEMMED IN BY THE SMALL AMOUNT OF SPACE BECAUSE OF THE SIX MEMBERS OF OUR OFFICE STAFF THAT ALSO ARE IN THERE BUSILY WORKING ON CURRICULUM AND OTHER ACTIVITIES.

AND SO THE CHALLENGE FOR US IS HOW DO WE GET MORE EXHIBIT SPACE SO THAT WE'RE NOT LOCKED INTO TINY EXHIBITS AND WE'VE GOT ROOM TO EXPAND? WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET A BUNCH MORE PEOPLE INTO THIS SPACE.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ALLOW FOR LARGER, LARGER EXHIBITS.

THE GARDEN ALSO CAME UP, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT PART OF OF THIS PHASE.

YOU DO SEE IT LAID OUT HERE.

WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDERGOING A FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGN TO TRY TO RAISE THE DOLLARS FOR THAT, BUT THAT OUTDOOR EXHIBIT SLASH GARDEN IS DOING A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO IT'S OPEN GREEN SPACE IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT THAT DOESN'T EXIST TODAY.

PEOPLE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO IT, ALTHOUGH THEY WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HOUSE OF SHINE.

THE HOUSE OF SHINE HAS LIMITED HOURS ALSO THAT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF.

SO THEY'RE NOT OPEN ON MONDAYS.

THEY DON'T DO EVENTS ON ON ON NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS TYPICALLY, UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING UNUSUAL FOR FOR.

AS AN EXAMPLE, I THINK A WEEK AGO OR SO WE HAD A A DO SHARE HOLIDAY FAIR FOR KIDS.

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THEY BROUGHT THEM TO THE HOUSE OF SHINE.

THEY SOLD THEM TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

IT WAS REALLY A GREAT EVENT IF ANY OF YOU GUYS WERE OUT THERE.

BUT THIS SPACE IS REALLY, I THINK THE TAGLINE IS WHERE KIND OF DREAMS COME TO COME TO GROW.

SO IT'S REALLY COME SIT DOWN, REFLECT, THINK ABOUT YOUR DREAMS, FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE.

WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT A FOR PROFIT INSTITUTION.

SO WE'RE NOT DEVELOPERS UP HERE SAYING, HOW DO WE MAXIMIZE THE FOOTPRINT? HOW DO WE GENERATE MORE REVENUE OUT OF THE SPACE? WE'RE REALLY HERE SAYING, HOW DO WE CREATE SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN BE PROUD OF? BECAUSE WHAT WE DO IS BUILD COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO NOT DO PARKING SPACES, ALTHOUGH WE THINK WE HAVE PLENTY.

WE'RE TRYING TO TO GET MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE COMMUNITY HERE IN GRAPEVINE.

THAT'S WHAT THIS WHOLE THING IS ALL ABOUT.

THE TREND IN THE AREA ALONG CHURCH STREET IS TO GO BACK TO RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S A PART OF THE HISTORIC.

AND THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THE PROPERTY ON CHURCH STREET NEEDS TO GO BACK TO SINGLE FAMILY.

THAT'S MY BIGGEST PROBLEM.

AND THE OTHER IS THE PARKING.

IF YOU COULD OVERCOME THOSE TWO, I'D BE GLAD TO SUPPORT YOU, BUT I DON'T WANT COMMERCIAL BUILT RIGHT ACROSS FROM THOSE NEW HOUSES THAT'S BEEN BUILT ACROSS THE STREET.

AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO WANT.

THE TREND HAS CHANGED FROM COMMERCIAL IN THERE TO GOING BACK TO RESIDENTIAL.

AND THAT BEING A NON PROFIT, YOU NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND THE EFFECT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ON THOSE NEW HOUSES THROUGH THERE AND WORK WITH US ON THAT.

TRY TO PUT THAT PART RIGHT ON CHURCH STREET, BACK INTO SINGLE FAMILY, AND THEN US WORK TOGETHER AND TRY TO GET YOU THE BEST PROJECT YOU CAN TO EXPAND YOUR EXHIBIT SPACE.

YEAH, MAYOR, I APPRECIATE THAT.

WHAT WE DID DURING THE THE DESIGN PHASE IS TRY TO MAKE THAT CHURCH STREET FACING SIDE OF THAT BUILDING LOOK RESIDENTIAL.

THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THAT IS TOTALLY AGAINST THE TRENDS IN THAT AREA.

AND THOSE NEW RESIDENCES WILL BE LOOKING RIGHT INTO A COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND A LOT BIGGER BUILDING AND A LOT MORE INTENSITY THAN IT'S BEEN THERE.

I MEAN, THAT RED SHED IS NOT BEEN VERY MUCH OF A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, HAD AN IMPACT, HAD DRAWN A LOT OF PEOPLE.

WELL, AND AGAIN, WE DON'T WE DON'T VIEW THIS AS THAT EITHER.

ARGUE WITH ME. I'M TELLING YOU WHAT I THINK.

ALL RIGHT. ARE YOU WILLING TO WORK WITH ME ON THAT? ABSOLUTELY. WE THINK WE HAVE WORKED WITH WITH YOU AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL ON THIS.

THAT IS THE TREND IN THE AREA.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF MONEY BUILDING BRAND NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE STREET, AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CORRIDOR ON THAT SIDE.

GO SINGLE FAMILY TOO, IF YOU'LL WORK WITH ME ON THAT.

I THINK, MR. MAYOR, HOW DO WE TURN IT INTO RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AT THE SAME TIME? I MEAN, I'M ALL EARS. I UNDERSTAND IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S THE LESS INTENSE COMMERCIAL THAN WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.

I'M JUST SAYING THE TREND WAS TO GO COMMERCIAL FOR THAT WHOLE BLOCK.

NOW IT'S GOING SINGLE FAMILY.

THAT'S WHERE THE TREND IS.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH.

BUT MR. MAYOR, IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL.

YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A LARGE ENOUGH LOT TO BUILD A HOME ON.

AND THEN AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THE REST COULD BE COMMERCIAL, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS OFF OF BARTON STREET.

OKAY. SO.

OKAY, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I'M STRUGGLING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO I TAKE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND MAKE IT BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND GIVE US THE SPACE THAT WE NEED FROM A COMMERCIAL PERSPECTIVE? DO I GET RID OF THE GARDEN? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING? I'M JUST TELLING YOU MY FEELING AND WHERE I'M HEADED.

OKAY. NUMBER ONE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE THE PARKING.

YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MEET THE ORDINANCE.

AND NUMBER TWO, YOU'RE GOING AGAINST THE TREND IN THAT AREA.

AND IF YOU DO IT, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A MISTAKE AS A NON PROFIT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO UPSET A LOT OF PEOPLE AND YOU'RE GOING AGAINST THE TREND OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. THE RESIDENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT IS WHAT'S HELPED RAISE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE AREA.

WELL, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED BY THE HISTORIC FOLKS.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT THE TREND IS TO CHANGE AND YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THOSE CHANGES AND THOSE TRENDS.

DRIVERS HAVE INVESTED A LOT OF PROPERTY IN ANOTHER USE.

SO I'M NOT.

I DON'T LIKE YOUR PROJECT FOR THOSE TWO REASONS.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT, AND I HOPE YOU'LL WORK WITH US.

I'D LIKE. I THINK YOU'VE GOT A GREAT ORGANIZATION.

YEAH. LOOK, WE'RE TRYING HARD TO EXPAND OUR FOOTPRINT AND SERVE THE TOWN BETTER.

WE'RE JUST. YOU'RE MAKING IT HARD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY AT THE SAME TIME.

WHAT I'M SAYING. YEAH.

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WELL, YOU SAID THERE'S TWO THINGS YOU SAID THAT CONFUSED ME A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE I THINK IN HERE IT IMPLIED THAT THERE WOULD BE ACCESS TO THE GARDEN OFF OF BARTON.

AND BECAUSE IT SAYS SOMEWHERE IN HERE THAT THERE'S LIKE A GATE.

NO, THERE'S A SERVICE, THERE'S A SERVICE GATE ON BARTON.

OKAY. SO BUT ANYBODY GETTING TO THE GARDEN WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HOUSE OF SHINE.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH HOUSE OF SHINE TO GET THERE.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

AND IS IT FREE TO GO TO THE GARDEN? YES. EVERYTHING IN THE HOUSE OF SHINE IS FREE.

IT'S A NON PROFIT TAKING MY GRANDCHILDREN.

THEY'RE GREAT. WOULD YOU ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SHARON'S POINT ABOUT THIS RAISED OUTDOOR SEATING AREA.

I REALIZED THE PODCAST BOOTH IS NOT PART OF THIS REQUEST, BUT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU GO THROUGH THE CITY FOR WHATEVER APPROVALS YOU NEED ON THAT. AND THIS SILO.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, TOO.

YEAH. SO I DON'T THINK ANY OF THAT'S PART OF THIS SUBMITTAL.

RIGHT. BUT WE KNOW THAT'S YOUR INTENTION.

YES. BUT FUTURE LEANING.

SO THAT AMPHITHEATER IS REALLY JUST INTENDED TO BE A SPACE WHERE KIDS CAN DO PRESENTATIONS.

RIGHT. AND THE SILO, FOR EXAMPLE, IS REALLY AN ART PIECE WHERE A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY CAN COME IN, HAVE AN INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, PHILOSOPHICAL OR SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE, AND REALLY GIVEN GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT ON THE DREAM THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING TO FRUITION.

THANK YOU. HOW WOULD THEY? ARE YOU GOING TO LET PEOPLE PAINT ON THE SILO? THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE PAINTING ON THE SILO.

NO, I WAS GOING TO SAY, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET UP THERE? SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT OKAY.

AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS YOU HAVE IN HERE THE FIXED HOURS, WHICH ARE DAY HOURS.

OBVIOUSLY SOME OF YOUR EVENTS ARE IN THE EVENING.

YEAH. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THIS PART IS NOT GOING TO BE OPEN IN THE EVENING, OR ARE YOU WILLING TO RESTRICT IT TO YOUR DAY HOURS? ONLY ON SPECIAL OCCASIONS.

ONLY ON SPECIAL OCCASIONS LIKE FUNDRAISERS AND A FUNDRAISER? YES. THE OCCASIONAL COCKTAIL PARTY, THAT KIND OF THING.

YEAH. OKAY.

THE DRAWING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON OUR SCREEN.

I'M LOOKING FOR A NORTH ARROW.

I DON'T SEE ONE. I PRESUME NORTH IS UP.

YEAH. NORTH IS RELATIVELY.

YES. OKAY. YES.

SO IS THIS AN ENTRANCE INTO IT ON THE LEFT WITH 3 OR 4 PARKING SPACES THERE? YEAH. SO THERE'S SIX SPOTS THERE AND A HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE RAMP AT THE FRONT AND LANDSCAPE ACCESSED FROM CHURCH STREET.

FROM CHURCH STREET? YES, FROM CHURCH STREET.

OKAY. WHERE EXACTLY IS THE AMPHITHEATER ON THIS DRAWING? SO IT'S IN THE FAR UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE LARGE GREEN SPACE STAGE WITH A CIRCLE.

THEREFORE OUR FRAME OF REFERENCE ONE WITH THE PINK AND THE ORANGE FLOWER IN IT.

YES. IN THAT BACK RIGHT CORNER.

YES. ALL RIGHT. A COUPLE OF STAIRS COMING DOWN.

KIND OF. YEAH.

AND IT REALLY IS JUST A PLACE FOR KIDS CAN SIT AND LISTEN TO THEM, BUT IT CAN BE USED FOR FUNDRAISERS AND COCKTAIL PARTIES AND GATHERINGS THAT COULD BE QUITE SIZABLE.

WELL, WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT EXPERIENCE.

I'M SORRY. WHEN WE DO LARGE FUNDRAISERS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WE DO IT ELSEWHERE.

WHERE WOULD YOU HAVE IT? ELSEWHERE.

WE'VE HAD IT AT OUR HOME.

WE'VE HAD IT UPSTAIRS.

YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE BUILDING RIGHT THERE, BUT I'M LOOKING AT YOUR PARKING MAP, SHEET NUMBER A 1.3 AND SEEING THE PARKING THAT YOU ALL HAVE IDENTIFIED.

I'M LOOKING AT LOT A, WHICH HAS 55 SPOTS.

I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS MIGHT BE THAT'S 59 SPOTS THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO USE AS SOME OF YOUR PARKING WHERE THAT'S.

THAT IS OUR CITY HALL PARKING LOT.

WE WERE ASKED TO DO A PARKING SURVEY.

WE SURVEYED ALL OF THE AVAILABLE LOTS AROUND THAT SPACE.

AND OUR ASSUMPTION WAS THAT, YES, SOME OF THOSE THOSE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS.

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY PROVIDES IS PARKING.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO FIX THE PARKING PROBLEM.

THAT'S ALL. CAN PROVIDE PARKING FOR THE MAIN STREET BUILDINGS.

EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE.

AND YOU TAKE THE GREGORY PARKING LOT THAT WE HAVE UNDER LEASE IS JUST A TEMPORARY DEAL.

SOONER OR LATER THAT'S GOING TO GO AWAY.

THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BUILD A BUILDING THERE.

AND THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO TO BUILD SOME PARKING GARAGES AND REDUCE THE SURFACE PARKING.

YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO DO, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE YOUR OWN PARKING.

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AND WE'RE NOT EXPANDING THE SCOPE OF SERVICES OF THE ORDINANCE.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND? WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES YOU TO PROVIDE THE ON ON, ON SITE PARKING.

ALL RIGHT. THE THE PARKING LOT E IS THE PARKING FOR THE VINE AND G IS HOYT'S PARKING LOT.

SO THE OTHERS THERE ARE SOME CITY FUNDED PARKING LOTS HERE WITH SOME PARKING THAT OUR TAXPAYERS PAID FOR, NOT FOR A SPECIFIC USE OR A SPECIFIC BUSINESS, BUT FOR PARKING IN GENERAL FOR VISITORS TO THE CITY.

SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE THAT WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO USE IS WHAT OUR CITY EMPLOYEES PARK DURING THE DAY, AND WHERE WILHOIT PEOPLE PARKS DURING THE DAY, AND WHERE DINO'S CUSTOMERS PARK WITH, WITH OUR BLESSING AND OUR LEASE THAT WE'VE JOINED INTO.

AND THE VINE IS ONE OF OUR FACILITIES.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS WHILE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'VE DONE, THESE ARE PRETTY WELL USED BY OUR OWN EMPLOYEES AND THOSE OTHER EMPLOYEES OF OTHER BUILDINGS.

WHO'S OWN THOSE? YES, WE LOOK, WE AGREE THE CITY HAS A PARKING PROBLEM.

YEAH, WELL, YOU'VE GOT A PARKING PROBLEM TOO, WITH WITH WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE.

I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON ONE THING.

I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE COMMERCIAL.

RESIDENTIAL, IF I COULD, REAL QUICK.

AND I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION THAT YOU CAME TO A MONTH AGO.

AND I REALIZE IT IS NO COMMERCIAL, AND YOU'VE CREATED A GREAT WHAT IS WHAT I WOULD CALL A RESIDENTIAL LOOK, SOFT LOOK ON CHURCH STREET. I JUST WANTED TO THE HPC APPROVED THE, YOU KNOW, THE STRUCTURE AS A STREETSCAPE AND THE BARN MOVE AND THAT WAS IT. BUT I FELT LIKE YOU DID DO A GREAT JOB IN IT IS COMMERCIAL, BUT YOU MADE IT LOOK RESIDENTIAL.

IT IS NOT.

WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY ON CHURCH STREET? IF I LIVED ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS BUILDING, I WOULD.

IT HAS THAT RESIDENTIAL LOOK THAT THAT YOU WORKED WITH DAVID AT PRESERVATION TO ACHIEVE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT DESIGN FOR FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, BASED ON COMMENTS FROM THE MAYOR AND OTHERS.

AND SO WE TRIED TO DO THE BEST THAT WE COULD.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE CHALLENGE IS THIS IS SO OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE'VE HAD OTHER MERCHANTS THAT HAVE COME AND PRESENTED TO EXPAND, AND THE COUNCIL HAS MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR THERE'S A PARKING PROBLEM, AND IT'S UP TO EACH OF THESE MERCHANTS TO SHOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PARK AND CARVE OUT SOME SPACE WITHIN THEIR STRUCTURE TO ADD PARKING.

AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME THAT YOU'RE EXPANDING OUT AND YOU'RE HAVING THESE EXHIBITS, BUT YOU'RE SAYING NO ONE'S GOING TO COME, THAT JUST SOMETHING SEEMS A LITTLE OFF BALANCE? NO, WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. THEN WHY EXPAND? BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAKE BIGGER EXHIBITS, WHICH MEANS IT'S GOING TO GIVE MORE SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO COME.

SO YOU'RE I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH KIND OF THE WORDSMITHING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

I MEAN, TO EXPAND AND SAY, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE COME OR IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE FOOTPRINT OF.

PEOPLE COME TO YOUR DOOR AND THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE MAKING A PUBLIC PARK, BUT TECHNICALLY YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH IS REALLY NOT A PUBLIC PARK.

YOU'RE STILL HAVING TO COME THROUGH YOUR FACILITY, AS OPPOSED TO HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM TO COME IN AND COME AND GO.

I THINK THE CHALLENGES IS THAT OVER THE YEARS, LIKE I SAID, IN FAIRNESS TO OTHER MERCHANTS, THE PARKING HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP WITH THE COUNCIL AND YOU'VE GOT SOME SPACE HERE.

IT PROBABLY WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE SERVED YOU TO KIND OF SQUEEZE THE SPACE IF YOU'RE REALLY NOT BRINGING MORE PEOPLE AND CREATE SOME PARKING FOR YOUR PLACE, AND THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL, I THINK.

OKAY. FAIR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION JUST IN A FRAME OF REFERENCE.

TELL ME WHERE ON THIS MAP THAT THE OLD HOUSE IS NOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TEAR DOWN.

IT'S BASICALLY IT'S RIGHT WHERE THE STRUCTURE IS TODAY.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO TEAR DOWN THE EXISTING HOUSE AND BUILD THIS ONE.

AND THEN WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO MOVE THE BARN.

IS THAT BACK OVER HERE ON THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER.

IS THAT WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE BARN? YES. TODAY IT'S MUCH CLOSER TO THE STRUCTURE.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE IT TOTALLY.

OKAY. MR. OLIVER, HAS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION LOOKED AT THIS AREA ALONG CHURCH STREET IN LIGHT OF PROPOSING A CHANGE TO THE LAND USE PLAN TO GO TO RESIDENTIAL.

WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSION OF THAT AS WE'VE LOOKED AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

AND WHAT THE MAYOR SAID IS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IS LOOKING AT CUTTING THE PROPERTY WHERE THINGS THAT FACE CHURCH STREET

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THANK YOU. BUT IN FAIRNESS.

SO BASICALLY IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL NOW.

SO BASICALLY THOSE PIECES CHANGING THE ZONING.

NO. SO LARRY, BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE PART THAT WOULD FACE CHURCH SHOULD BE RESIDENTIAL AND THE PART THAT WOULD FACE BARTON WOULD BE MORE COMMERCIAL.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVEN'T PRESENTED THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DID DISCUSS.

YES. RIGHT. BUT HE IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.

WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.

HE IS ZONED. THIS WAS FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE.

RIGHT. SO WE'RE NOT WE CAN'T IMPOSE THAT.

NO. AND HE PURCHASED IT THAT WAY.

BUT PNC HAS NOT ASKED THEIR QUESTIONS YET.

SO YOU GUYS GO I THINK YOU'VE COVERED THEM ALL.

OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU ALL GO. I THINK WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY? I'VE ASKED AND NO ONE SAYS NOBODY HAS ANY.

ALL RIGHT. KNOW ABOUT THAT.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WE ASK THEM FOR YOU THEN I GUESS.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHTY.

WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. I HAVE ONE REQUEST.

YASMIN BUSARI, 316 SOUTH MAIN STREET.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR TATE.

AND MEMBERS OF THE OF THE COUNCIL AND THE PNC.

MY NAME IS YASMIN BOSELLI.

I WE, MY HUSBAND AND I OWN THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPOSED PROJECT.

WE ARE.

I'M SORRY. LET ME GET MY NOTES.

WE ARE DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.

WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S A GREAT ADDITION TO THE CHURCH.

AND I MEAN CHURCH STREET, BARTON STREET AND DOWNTOWN GRAPEVINE.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

I MEAN, IT WILL BE A DREAM TO HAVE A GARDEN LIKE THAT.

WE ALWAYS BELIEVE THERE IS NO PARKING ISSUE, AND THAT'S MY REASON FOR COMING AND TALKING HERE.

THERE IS NO PARKING ISSUE IN IN DOWNTOWN GRAPEVINE YESTERDAY WE HAD, I THINK IT WAS MAYBE 25,000 PEOPLE, 30,000 PEOPLE WALKING THE STREET.

IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAD A PROBLEM FINDING A PARKING SPOT.

THERE. THERE'S ENOUGH PUBLIC PARKINGS AND STREET PARKING IN DOWNTOWN GRAPEVINE I'VE NEVER HAD IN 24 YEARS.

WE'VE NEVER HAD A CUSTOMER OR ANYBODY COMPLAIN ABOUT PARKING.

WE SUPPORT THE USE OF PUBLIC PARKING.

I MEAN, IT'S PUBLIC, SO I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY CAN USE IT FOR ALL BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN.

THE CITY SHOULD SUPPORT THE SAME FOR ALL BUSINESSES.

WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED THAT SMALL BUSINESS PROJECTS SHOULD NOT BE TURNED DOWN BECAUSE OF A LACK OF PARKING.

AND THAT'S MY REASON OF COMING HERE AND TALKING TO YOU.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANY CORRESPONDENCE? YES, SIR.

THERE WAS ONE LETTER PUT BEFORE YOU WITH JUST COMMENTS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOTION TO CLOSE. PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? NONE OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT.

YOU NEED TO CLOSE, MAYOR.

SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON CONDITIONAL USE.

[5. Conditional Use Permit CU23-31 (Big Daddy’s Ship Store) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Nicholas Kaufman requesting a conditional use permit to allow for the possession, storage, retail sale on and off premise consumption of alcoholic beverages (beer, wine, and mixed beverage) in conjunction with a restaurant with outdoor speakers, outdoor dining, and a convenience store. The subject property is located at 2500 Oak Grove Loop South, Suite 200 and is currently zoned “GU”, Governmental Use District.]

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST IS CURRENTLY ZONED GOVERNMENTAL USE DISTRICT.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS DEVELOPED WITH THE MULTI-TENANT FLOATING DOCK LOCATED AT LAKE GRAPEVINE AND ADDRESSED AS SUITE 200 OF 2500, OAK GROVE LOOP SOUTH.

THE REQUEST IS ASSOCIATED WITH AN EXISTING RETAIL STORE AND RESTAURANT LOCATED AT SCOTT'S LANDING MARINA AT LAKE GRAPEVINE.

THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE 1300 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT PROPOSES TO OFFER ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AS FOR SALE ITEM TO ITS CUSTOMERS.

BIG DADDY SHIP STORE IS REQUESTING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ON AND OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, MEANING BEER, WINE, AND MIXED BEVERAGES, OUTSIDE DINING AND OUTDOOR SPEAKERS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESTAURANT AND EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE.

THE RESTAURANT IS ACCESSED BY A WALKWAY ATOP LAKE GRAPEVINE AND IS OPERATED ON A FLOATING DOCK.

CURRENT SEATING ON THE FLOOR PLAN INCLUDES BOTH INDOOR DINING AND A TWO LEVEL OUTDOOR DECK, WHICH IS PARTIALLY COVERED.

THE RESTAURANT HAS INTERIOR SEATING FOR 20 PATRONS AND OUTDOOR SEATING FOR 100 PATRONS.

WITH THIS REQUEST, 61 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 102 PARKING SPACES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED.

ON LAND, THERE ARE SEVEN EXISTING OUTDOOR SPEAKERS WHICH PROVIDE AMBIENT MUSIC FOR PATRONS SEATED OUTSIDE.

THEY'RE SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE AND ON THE FLOOR PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS.

THE APPLICANT AND BUSINESS OPERATOR, DANIELLE.

EXCUSE ME. THE APPLICANT'S ARCHITECT, DANIELLE KAUFMAN, IS PRESENT HERE THIS EVENING AND HAS PREPARED A PRESENTATION AND IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE TO THIS

[02:25:07]

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR TATE.

MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL AND COMMISSIONERS.

I AM DANIELLE KAUFMAN, 205 SOUTH DOOLEY STREET.

I'M HERE WITH MY HUSBAND, NICK.

TONIGHT WE ARE THE NEW OWNERS OF BIG DADDY'S CANTINA, LOCATED AT SCOTT'S LANDING MARINA ON LAKE GRAPEVINE.

FORMERLY KNOWN AS BIG DADDY SHIP STORE.

ALSO REFERRED TO AS BIG DADDY'S OR RESTAURANT ON THE LAKE.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BIG DADDY'S HISTORY.

THE BUSINESS ORIGINALLY OPENED IN 1997 AND HAS BEEN OPERATING AS A RESTAURANT WITH LAKE VIEWS FOR THE LAST 26 YEARS.

IT'S BEEN A FAMILY FRIENDLY ESTABLISHMENT.

IN FACT, MANY HAVE COINED THIS LOCATION AS A HIDDEN GEM IN GRAPEVINE, WHERE THEY ENJOY TO BRING THEIR FAMILIES TO ENJOY A MEAL.

FEED THE DUCKS. LISTEN TO MUSIC AND ENJOY LIVE ENTERTAINMENT ON THE WEEKENDS DURING THE SUMMERTIME.

UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS IN OUTDOOR DINING.

ON OUR APPLICATION, WE HAD BEEN INFORMED THAT WHILE THESE SPEAKERS AND THE SEATING HAS BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS, THE CITY DID NOT HAVE ANY RECORD OF THOSE ITEMS. SO WE DO BRING THEM HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY AS EXISTING.

WE'D LIKE TO INTEND TO CONTINUE TO USE THOSE ITEMS AS THEY HAVE IN THE PAST.

IN THESE PICTURES, WE DO SHOW A MOTHER AND SON DANCING TO SOME LIVE MUSIC BACK IN 2018.

WELL, OF COURSE THE THE LIVE MUSIC MEMBERS HAVE BROUGHT THEIR OWN SPEAKERS.

THERE IS A SPEAKER THAT IS AFFIXED TO THE BUILDING IN THAT PHOTO BACK IN 2022.

AND THIS IS AN EXISTING SPEAKER TODAY.

THERE'S ONE AFFIXED TO THE BUILDING AND THEN DATING BACK TO 2013, YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE ARE TWO SPEAKERS FACING THE PATIO FOR THAT AMBIENT MUSIC. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO REQUEST A LIQUOR PERMIT FOR MIXED USE BEVERAGES.

BACK MANY YEARS AGO, BIG DADDY'S DID HAVE A TABC LICENSE TO SELL PACKAGED ALCOHOL.

THIS IS SIMILAR TO A LIQUOR STORE, CONVENIENCE STORE, OR GAS STATION.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS PERMIT IS TO SELL ALCOHOL FOR OFF SITE CONSUMPTION, AND IN THIS CASE, THEY INTENDED THE CUSTOMERS TO PURCHASE THE ALCOHOL AND TAKE IT OUT ON THEIR BOAT OR DRINK IT ELSEWHERE.

AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS THAT CUSTOMERS WERE BUYING THE ALCOHOL, WALKING AROUND TO THE PATIO TO ENJOY THE NICE LAKE VIEWS AND THEIR BEVERAGE ON PREMISE.

THIS BECAME DIFFICULT TO CONTROL AND MONITOR, SO THE BUSINESS DECIDED NOT TO RENEW THAT PERMIT WITHOUT HAVING SUCH A SALES LICENSE TO SELL ALCOHOL. IT DOES ALLOW BUSINESSES TO ALLOW CUSTOMERS TO BRING YOUR OWN BOOZE.

BYOB BRING YOUR OWN BEVERAGE AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

THE BUSINESS ALSO OFFERED WHAT MOST LOCALS REFER TO AS THE HONOR SYSTEM, WHERE THEY HAD A COOLER OF COLD BEVERAGES WHERE YOU CAN COME AND TAKE TAKE A BEER OF CHOICE.

AND THERE WAS A TIP JAR NEXT TO IT WHERE THEY ENCOURAGED INDIVIDUALS TO PROVIDE TIPS IN EXCHANGE FOR THE FREE BEER SO THAT THEY COULD CONTINUE TO FILL THIS COOLER FOR OTHER CUSTOMERS TO COME.

HOWEVER, TAX REGULATIONS DO NOT PERMIT THE ACCEPTANCE OF TIPS OR ANY TYPE OF MONETARY FUNDS IN EXCHANGE FOR FREE ALCOHOL. THIS IS CONSIDERED SELLING ALCOHOL.

AND SO IN 2020, WITH THE REMODEL, THE PREVIOUS OWNER DID DO AWAY WITH THE HONOR SYSTEM AND FREE BEER COOLER, WHICH STILL LEAVES THE BYOB OPTION.

WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO REGULATE AND CONTROL THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL ON SITE.

MAYOR TATE, YOU HAD SAID EARLIER, WITHOUT ANY REGULATION, THINGS CAN BECOME CHAOS.

AND SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE INDULGING SAFELY, TO KEEP A SAFE EXPERIENCE FOR OUR PATIO AND BUSINESS AND OTHER CUSTOMERS THAT COME TO US. CUSTOMERS HERE BRING THEIR COOLERS, THEY MIX THEIR OWN DRINKS, MAYBE THEY POUR THEIR OWN SHOTS, AND WE HAVE NO WAY OF MONITORING HOW MUCH CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL EACH INDIVIDUAL HAS.

IN ADDITION TO MAINTAINING A SAFE ENVIRONMENT, THE SALE OF ALCOHOL WILL ALLOW US TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE AND GROW REVENUE.

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YOU HAVE THE GLASS CACTUS AT THE GAYLORD ON THE LAKE ROCKIN S EXPRESS, THE NEWEST RESTAURANT ON THE LAKE.

THEY RECEIVED APPROVAL FOR THEIR MIXED USE BEVERAGE PERMIT AND OUTDOOR SPEAKERS BY THIS COUNCIL BACK IN JUNE OF 2021.

AND THERE'S ANOTHER RESTAURANT CALLED ROCKIN S.

IT ACTUALLY EXISTS IN THE CITY OF FLOWER MOUND, BUT BOATERS DO ENJOY TO DRIVE OVER THERE.

ORDER A DRINK, ORDER SOME FOOD, AND COME BACK THIS WAY, BUT ULTIMATELY SPENDING THEIR DOLLARS IN ANOTHER CITY.

THE ALCOHOL BEING CONSUMED TODAY AT BIG DADDY'S ON THE LAKE DOES NOT GENERATE ANY REVENUE.

IT DOESN'T GENERATE REVENUE FOR BIG DADDY'S.

IT DOESN'T GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE STATE, AND IT DOESN'T GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE CITY.

AND I WILL JUST POINT OUT IN THE PICTURE TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT, SINCE THIS IS FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE ON THE PATIO THAN THE PICTURE BEFORE YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE SOME SPEAKERS HERE ALREADY PROVIDED ON THE PATIO.

HOW MANY TOTAL SPEAKERS ARE THERE AT THIS TIME? SEVEN. THANK YOU.

WITH THE INCREASED REVENUES, WE'D LIKE TO INVEST AND CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THIS BUSINESS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY AND OUR CUSTOMERS.

SINCE WE PURCHASED THIS BUSINESS IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, WE HAVE REPLACED THE OLD FUEL PUMPS THAT HAD CONTINUED TO BE BROKEN, SHUT DOWN, IRREPARABLE AND ESSENTIALLY A CASH ONLY OPTION TO NEW FUEL PUMPS THAT ARE NEW IN GOOD WORKING ORDER, ALLOWS A PAY AT THE PUMP OPTION SO THAT VOTERS CAN COME AND GO AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN, SPENDING MORE TIME ON THE WATER WITH THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY.

THIS IS THE SEATING THAT EXISTED IN JUNE AND IN EARLY JULY.

WE DID REPLACE THOSE WORN OUT BENCH FURNITURE FOR NEW, COMFORTABLE SEATING.

WE, IN FACT, HAD SOME COMPLAINTS FROM CUSTOMERS ABOUT WHAT WAS THERE THAT THEY MIGHT GET SPLINTERS WHILE THEY SAT ON ONE OF THESE IN A BATHING SUIT.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO PROVIDED SAFE AND YET COMFORTABLE FURNITURE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.

THAT'S A HUGE IMPROVEMENT.

THANK YOU. WE ARE FOCUSED ON CONTINUING TO IMPROVE THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AT BIG DADDY'S.

WE HAVE MANY NEEDS AND MANY WANTS HERE.

WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THEM ALL.

WE NEED TO REPLACE THE FLOORING INSIDE THE SPACE THAT IS IN DISREPAIR.

THE AC UNIT INSIDE IS COMPLETELY INADEQUATE FOR THE SPACE, SO MUCH SO THAT OUR CUSTOMERS PREFER TO SIT OUTSIDE IN 100 DEGREE HEAT FOR THAT SLIGHT WARM BREEZE, THEN SIT INSIDE WITH THE COOKING EQUIPMENT WITH AIR CONDITIONING BLOWING.

WE WANT TO ADD OUTDOOR FANS AND MISTERS TO KEEP OUR CUSTOMERS COOL WHILE SEATED OUT ON THE PATIO.

THE WHOLE SPACE COULD USE A FRESH COAT OF PAINT, BUT THE LIST GOES ON AND THERE'S MANY THINGS WE'D LIKE TO DO.

BECAUSE OF THE SEASONAL BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE TRANSIENT STAFF.

SO THE NEW CONCEPT AND THE NEW MENU THAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE WILL BE DESIGNED TO PRODUCE A CONSISTENT, GREAT QUALITY FOOD AND GREAT QUALITY SERVICE YEAR OVER YEAR.

WE BELIEVE THAT A MEXICAN CANTINA STYLE RESTAURANT IS A GREAT WAY TO INCORPORATE THE FAST CASUAL EXPERIENCE.

DURING HIGH SEASON, THE SPRING AND SUMMERTIME, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE OVER 200 PEOPLE WITHIN THE DINNER RUSH.

AS THAT SUN GOES DOWN AND THE BOATERS COME OFF OF THE LAKE, THEY ARE HUNGRY.

THEY ARE EXHAUSTED FROM A FULL DAY OF FUN IN THE SUN, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FEED THEM QUICKLY.

WE WILL MAINTAIN A FAMILY FRIENDLY ESTABLISHMENT.

KIDS LOVE COMING TO FEED THE DUCKS, THE FISH, AND THE TURTLES THAT SWIM UP ON THE DOCK.

AND WE'D LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME OUTDOOR GAMES FOR THE OUTDOOR FOR ALL CHILDREN OF ALL AGES.

WITH THE SIZE OF THE PATIO THAT WE HAVE, WE ARE LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO HOST LARGE PRIVATE EVENTS.

WITH THAT, WE PROVIDE TOP NOTCH CATERING AS WELL AS DECORATIONS.

ALL THE KIDS LOVED OUR CHRISTMAS IN JULY PARTY THAT WE HOSTED THIS YEAR, WITH THE 15 FOOT CHRISTMAS TREE THAT I BUILT OUT OF BEACH BALLS.

THEY GOT A GOOD KICK OUT OF THAT, AS WELL AS DRESSING UP WITH THE LEIS AND THE HATS THAT WE PROVIDED FOR THEM ON THE TABLES.

A LIVE BAND PLAYED FOR FAMILIES TO SING AND DANCE, AND IT WAS, ALL IN ALL, A GOOD TIME.

BIG DADDY'S HAS HOSTED OTHER LOCAL EVENTS SUCH AS GRACE CHARITY EVENTS, THE GRAPEVINE SAILING CLUB AND MANY OTHER LOCAL

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I WOULD LOVE TO BRING ALCOHOL TO A PLACE THAT PROVIDES FREE ENTERTAINMENT WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND A DIME.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT BUSINESS MODEL JUST DOESN'T WORK MUCH LIKE THE VIN THAT PROVIDES MUSIC IN THE PLAZA, BUT DOES NOT ALLOW OUTSIDE FOOD OR ALCOHOL. IT SIMPLY DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF REVENUE TO SUPPORT IT.

SO WE ARE HERE TODAY TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR A MIXED USE BEVERAGE PERMIT SO THAT WE MAY CONTROL THE ONSITE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL, STAY COMPETITIVE, AND CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY WHO ENJOY THIS GEM AND RESTAURANT ON LAKE GRAPEVINE.

NICK AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

THANK YOU. YOU.

COME ON, MR. CHAIRMAN.

NO QUESTIONS. WELL, I HAVE TO COMMEND YOU FOR COMING IN.

AND EVEN THOUGH YOU COULD HAVE JUST ROCKED ALONG AND CONTINUED DOING THINGS TO TO, YOU KNOW, TO BRING EVERYTHING UP TO, TO CODE, TO GET EVERYTHING SQUARED AWAY. BIG DADDY'S HAS BEEN A STAPLE ON LAKE GRAPEVINE FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

IT'S A FUN PLACE AND THE IMPROVEMENTS ALREADY ARE WONDERFUL.

THAT HORRIBLE OLD FURNITURE WAS THE WORST.

IMPROVING I THINK IS GREAT AND I DO LIKE THE IDEA.

JUST MUCH LIKE ON AN AIRPLANE YOU HAVE TO CONTROL THE ALCOHOL.

YOU JUST CAN'T LET IT BE.

I CAN'T IMAGINE A TIP JAR EVER WORKED ANYWAY, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF CONTROLLING THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD PLAN.

SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN.

I'M SURPRISED THE OTHER OWNERS HADN'T DONE THIS.

SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU, BUT THE THE CORE HAS, I THINK, NO GLASS CONTAINER ON A LOT OF THE PARKS AND THINGS.

DO THEY HAVE WILL YOU JUST SELL OFF PREMISES IN CANS OR.

THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. YEAH.

SO OKAY.

ALL RIGHTY. THANK YOU. LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR.

YES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THE SPEAKERS OR MAKE A COMMENT.

I'VE BEEN OUT AT THE VINEYARDS CAMPGROUND SEVERAL TIMES WHEN THE MUSIC BY THE PREVIOUS OWNERS WAS VERY, VERY LOUD AND DISRUPTIVE TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE TRYING TO STAY THERE AT THE CAMPGROUND. I'M SURE THAT YOU ALL WILL BE MONITORING THAT, SO THAT THE VOLUME OF THE SPEAKERS IS NOT EXCESSIVELY LOUD, SO THAT IT WOULD DISRUPT ANYONE THERE AT THE CAMPGROUND OR OVER IN THE MOCKINGBIRD AREA.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND OUR LIVE MUSIC AND EVEN IN OUR LEASE THIS WAY WILL WILL NEVER GO PAST 10 P.M., SO WE WILL NEVER EVEN HAVE OUTDOOR SPEAKERS ON PAST 10 P.M.. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I EVEN WHEN DOING SOME RESEARCH WENT AND THOUGHT LIKE WHAT? YOU KNOW HOW MUCH NOISE CAN CARRY AND WHAT TYPE OF VIOLATIONS HAVE BEEN PULLED IN THE PAST.

SO I PULLED AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WENT BACK 15 YEARS.

AND NOT ONE NOISE COMPLAINTS EVER BEEN FILED.

OKAY, SO I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT, AT LEAST THAT WAY.

AND USUALLY ESPECIALLY THINKING ABOUT THE VINEYARDS, THESE ARE PEOPLE USUALLY WANTING LOUD MUSIC AND THEY'RE TRAVELING AND THEY'RE ON VACATION.

SO WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING OVER AND JUST HAVING A GOOD TIME WITH IT.

THEY APPRECIATE IT. GOOD LUCK TO YOU.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANKS FOR PUTTING ALL THE TIME AND THE MONEY INTO THIS.

HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? YES, SIR, I HAVE FOUR.

FOUR? YES, SIR.

OKAY. ROBERT RAINWATER, 509 DUNN COURT.

MAYOR TATE. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

MR. OLIVER Z.

MEMBERS. MR. RUMBELOW CITY STAFF APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE.

I APOLOGIZE FOR MY SELFISHNESS BUT I WILL BE BRIEF.

IT IS STILL A GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE JUST A COUPLE OF CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE AS ADJACENT RESIDENTS TO THIS PROPERTY.

ONE IS THE NOISE.

NICK IS RIGHT. WE'VE WE'VE NEVER CALLED AND COMPLAINED ON THE NOISE, BUT WE'VE HEARD IT PLENTY OF TIMES.

I REALIZE I HAVE SEVEN SPEAKERS THERE FOR WHAT WHAT THEY'RE CLAIMING IS AMBIENT NOISE OR AMBIENT MUSIC, BUT YOU SEE THERE IN THE PICTURE IN THE UPPER RIGHT THERE WHERE THEY HAVE THE THE LOCAL MUSICIANS BRING THEIR OTHER AMPLIFIED SPEAKERS THERE THAT THAT ARE PROBABLY THE GREATER CULPRITS. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU MONITOR THAT, HOW YOU MANAGE THAT, HOW YOU MITIGATE THAT NOISE AND HOW IT TRAVELS ACROSS THE LAKE, INTO OUR BACKYARD, INTO OUR HOME. THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS JUST YOU'LL SEE IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND PICTURE HERE, WHERE YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE LEAGUE TEAM OVER THERE.

WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THE CITY AND DEVELOPING A FANTASTIC BALLPARK.

SOCCER FIELDS, LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS OVER THERE.

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MANY, MANY PEOPLE THAT I SPEAK WITH.

I WORK IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

A LOT OF FOLKS THAT I WORK WITH ARE JEALOUS THAT I LIVE IN GRAPEVINE, AND I'M GLAD THEY'RE JEALOUS BECAUSE I'M GLAD OF THE HOMETOWN FEEL THAT WE HAVE.

WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT.

AND MY CONCERN IS WITH ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION THERE ADJACENT TO THE BALL FIELDS, ALLOWING THOSE DRIVERS THERE ON THE ON THE ROADS ADJACENT TO THE BALL FIELDS WITH KIDS PLAYING, PRACTICING, WARMING UP FOR THE FOR THE GAMES.

JUST HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THE TENANTS INTENT TO TO MANAGE THAT, MANAGE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW SELLING ALCOHOL IS GOING TO MITIGATE THE CURRENT CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL.

I THINK IT'S ONLY GOING TO ENCOURAGE IT.

I WOULD JUST ASK YOU ALL TO TAKE ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS INTO INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU MAKE YOUR VOTE.

I DID WANT TO STAND BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

SAY HI TO A BUNCH OF YOU, ALL THAT I HADN'T SEEN IN A WHILE, AND JUST ASK YOU TO VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S.

I'VE SEEN ENOUGH OF THESE CASES COME BEFORE US.

THERE'S USUALLY THREE SIDES TO VOTE ON.

EITHER YOU VOTE FOR IT.

YOU VOTE AGAINST IT, OR YOU DON'T REALLY CARE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A RESPONSIBLE VOTE THAT WOULD BE FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE AND THIS PARTICULAR CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING AND A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

THANK YOU. NEXT.

ANDREW SANDERSON 3506 BLUEBERRY LANE.

HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR HEARING US.

I WANT TO FIRST THANK THE KAUFMANS FOR DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB IN PRESENTING THIS AND BRINGING WHAT IS TRULY A TREASURE TO THE 2000.

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I AM A NEW MEMBER OF GRAPEVINE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

I HAVE TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS.

WE LOVE GOING OUT THERE.

QUITE HONESTLY, I'VE EXPERIENCED THE LOUD NOISE THAT PREDOMINANTLY COMES FROM THE MASSIVE BOATS FULL OF DRUNK PEOPLE BLARING THEIR MUSIC GOING ACROSS THE LAKE.

I'VE RARELY HAVE I'VE HEARD IT FROM ANY ESTABLISHMENT.

I HAVE WITNESSED, UNFORTUNATELY, WITH MY KIDS, DRUNK PEOPLE GETTING OFF THE BOAT, DRAGGING BIG COOLERS AND CONTINUING TO DRINK.

THAT'S NOT HEALTHY. IT'S NOT NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO RUN MY KIDS.

I WOULD MUCH RATHER BE ABLE TO HAVE A MARGARITA IN MY GLASS OF WINE AND ENJOY MY DINNER WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT A BOAT FULL OF INTOXICATED PEOPLE DIVING OFF AND DRAGGING MORE ALCOHOL ONTO THAT SCENE.

SO I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF WHAT WOULD BE INCREASED TAXES AND INCREASED OVERSIGHT INTO WHAT IS A RESTAURANT ENVIRONMENT.

I THINK IT'S HARD TO LOOK AT ANY ENVIRONMENT NOW AND NOT OFFER THEM THE ABILITY TO INCREASE THEIR PROFITS AND CONTINUE TO GROW AND INVEST IN WHAT IS A GREAT PIECE OF REAL ESTATE AND A GREAT LITTLE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY I'M IN FAVOR AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT FIRST MARGARITA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

VON THOMPSON 820 EAST LOOP ROAD.

I'M VON 820 DEVLOOP ROAD.

SO, MAYOR COUNCIL, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY WHOLE HEARTED ENDORSEMENT OF AND SUPPORT FOR THE KAUFMAN'S PROPOSAL FOR A LIQUOR LICENSE FOR BIG DADDY'S.

I LIVED IN THE OAK GROVE COMMUNITY ON HUMMINGBIRD, JUST A COUPLE HOUSES DOWN FROM THE BALLPARKS, AND THE NOISE LEVEL FROM THE BOATING AREA HAS NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM.

ACTUALLY, THE LOVELY SOUND THAT I ENJOYED TREMENDOUSLY, WHICH WAS LOUDER THAN ANYTHING I'D HEAR FROM THE BOATING COMMUNITY WHERE THE KIDS PLAYING BASEBALL ON SATURDAY MORNINGS, AND I LOVE WAKING UP TO FAMILIES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE RECREATION OF OUR OF OAK GROVE.

I'VE LIVED THERE FOR I LIVED THERE FOR MANY YEARS, AND I'VE ENJOYED THE LIVE MUSIC AND BOATING COMMUNITY AT THE MARINA, AND I WOULD LITERALLY WALK FROM MY HOME ON HUMMINGBIRD TO BIG DADDY'S, AND ADDING A LIQUOR LICENSE TO BIG DADDY'S JUST ADDS TREMENDOUS VALUE, ENJOYMENT, AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE COME TO APPRECIATE AT BIG DADDY'S.

SO OTHER MARINA RESTAURANT LIQUOR LICENSES HAVE ADDED VALUE TO THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS, AND THIS ADDITION WILL INCREASE THE DESIRABILITY AND ENJOYMENT OF ONE OF GRAPEVINE'S MOST DESIRABLE RECREATIONAL AREAS.

SO THE KAUFMAN'S, OF COURSE, HAVE RICHLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE CULTURE AND HOSPITALITY THAT GRAPEVINE HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR THROUGH THEIR EXISTING ESTABLISHMENT WINE FUSION.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THEIR PROVEN LEADERSHIP IN HOSPITALITY ON MAIN STREET IS GOING TO GIVE THE COUNCIL CONFIDENCE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DELIVER AN EXCEPTIONAL HOSPITALITY EXPERIENCE FOR CUSTOMERS THAT GO OUT TO BIG DADDY'S.

SO HAVING A LIQUOR LICENSE WOULD BE A GREAT THING FOR CUSTOMERS ENJOYING LIVE MUSIC, SOME FOOD AND A DRINK.

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AND I FEEL LIKE THEY'VE PUT A VERY RESPONSIBLE PROPOSAL IN PLACE.

AND I URGE YOU GUYS TO SUPPORT THAT.

SO AS A CUSTOMER, I THINK THE CURRENT BYOB SITUATION IS BOTH UNNECESSARY AND A FRUSTRATING HASSLE.

AND SO I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE REQUESTED PERMIT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT. AARON MAXWELL 820 EAST LOOP ROAD NUMBER 1926.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS AARON MAXWELL AND I LIVE AT 820 EAST DOVE LOOP ROAD.

I'M HERE IN FAVOR OF BIG DADDY'S TO OBTAIN A LIQUOR LICENSE.

WHEN I'VE BEEN OUT OF BIG DADDY'S, YOU KNOW, I GO OUT AND LISTEN TO THE LIVE MUSIC.

AND SOMETIMES I'D HAVE TO TAKE A COOLER IF I WANTED TO HAVE A DRINK.

AND IT CAN BE A HASSLE HAVING TO BRING THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, THE ICE STARTS TO MELT, AND THEN IT COOLER GETS ALL WET.

AND, YOU KNOW, AFTER A WHILE, IT JUST KIND OF GETS GETS TO BE A HASSLE.

AND IT WOULD BE SO MUCH EASIER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A MIXED DRINK THERE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BRING IT FROM HOME.

I ALSO KNOW THAT ROCKING EXPRESS SELLS ALCOHOL, SO I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE AN ISSUE WITH APPROVING BIG DADDY'S REQUEST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT. THAT'S IT.

CHAIRMAN. READY.

THE COMMISSION CLOSED FOR MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

LATER CLOSED. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

PUBLIC HEARINGS CLOSED.

WE MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT, TOO.

THEY HAVEN'T VOTED YET.

MOTION. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? WE'RE NOT USED TO 1030 AT NIGHT IN OUR MEETINGS.

WE'RE A LITTLE SPOILED.

I THOUGHT YOU CLOSED, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'M SORRY.

ALL RIGHT. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS CLOSED.

WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

[6. Planned Development Overlay PD23-04 (The Reserve at Bear Creek) and a Final Plat of Lots 5-R, 6X-R, 6-R-1, 6-R-2 and 7-R, The Reserve at Bear Creek – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Bear Creek Grapevine Townhomes, LLC requesting a planned development overlay to deviate from, but not be limited to, minimum lot size, side yard setback, front yard setback, lot width, lot depth, maximum building height, and to allow front entry garages for lots less than 40-feet in width in conjunction with a townhouse development, and a replat of Lots 5, 6X and 7, The Reserve at Bear Creek. This request amends the previously approved Planned Development Overlay PD22-03 (Ordinance No. 2022-026), specifically to increase the number of lots from 69 to 71. The subject property is located at 4201 State Highway 360 and is currently zoned “R-TH”, Townhouse District.]

AND A FINAL PLAT OF LOTS 5 OR 6, EIGHT OR 6 OR 1, 6 OR 2 AND SEVEN ARE RESERVE AT BEAR CREEK.

MONICA. I MEAN, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO DEVIATE FROM MINIMUM LOT SIZE, SIDE YARD SETBACK, FRONT YARD SETBACK, LOT WIDTH, MINIMUM LOT DEPTH, MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT AND TO ALLOW FRONT ENTRY GARAGES FOR LESS FOR LOTS LESS THAN 40FT IN WIDTH IN CONJUNCTION WITH A TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT.

THIS SUBDIVISION WAS REZONED IN 2018, INITIALLY TO THE RTA TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT, AND AT THAT TIME COUNCIL ALSO APPROVED A PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY, APPROVED AS PART OF PD 1802 FOR THE ABOVE MENTIONED DEVIATIONS.

CONSTRUCTION BEGAN ON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THEY WERE NOT COMPLETED SINCE THAT TIME THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FROM 2018 HAS EXPIRED.

ALL PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REQUESTS HAVE NOT CHANGED IN 2022.

THEY SOUGHT A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST THAT WAS APPROVED AND AS PART OF THE DEVIATION PACKAGE.

THEY ALSO INCLUDED A REQUEST TO EXTEND MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT TO THREE STORIES 45FT.

AND AGAIN, THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY IN 2022 WAS APPROVED, WITH THE NEW ELEVATIONS INCREASING MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT TO THREE STORIES 38FT.

HOWEVER, THEY DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD, AND NOW THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY HAS ALSO EXPIRED AS PART OF THIS CURRENT OWNERSHIP GROUP.

THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO ANY OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY REQUESTS, BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE TOTAL LOT COUNT FROM 69 LOTS TO 71 LOTS.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE, TURNING WHAT WAS A COMMON AREA LOT THAT WOULD HAVE FEATURED IN PREVIOUS PLANS BEFORE YOU.

AN AMENITY CENTER AND POTENTIALLY A PLAY STRUCTURE FOR CHILDREN IS NOW PROPOSED TO BE TWO ADDITIONAL TOWNHOUSE LOTS.

OTHER THAN THAT, THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

THE OWNERSHIP GROUP'S ARCHITECT, MR. BEN FORD, IS HERE THIS EVENING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. NEVER CEASE TO BE AMAZED.

YEAH. MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL.

SO, AS BRIEFLY STATED, THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND LOST THEIR APPROVAL BACK IN APRIL.

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THAT WAY WE CAN HOPEFULLY GET THIS APPROVAL AND ACTUALLY GET ON WITH CONSTRUCTION.

WITH THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL, WE APPLIED FOR A BUILDING PERMIT BECAUSE WE BELIEVED ALL OF THE ITEMS WOULD BE ADDRESSED AND ACTUALLY WORKED WITH THE CITY AND RECEIVED OUR BUILDING PERMIT PENDING PUBLIC WORKS ITEMS, WHICH THE MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC WORK ITEMS WAS ENCORES, STREETLIGHTS. THERE WAS A BACKLOG ON THAT AND A TRAIL ON THE NORTH EAST, SORRY, NORTH WEST CORNER THAT DID NOT MEET TEX-DOT REQUIREMENTS.

THOSE ANY OTHER ITEMS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED OR CLOSE TO BEING CLEANED UP.

GERMAN. QUESTIONS.

ASSUMING APPROVAL. WHEN DO YOU PLAN TO START BUILDING? WE ARE STILL PENDING THE ENCORE ITEMS. THE TRAILS ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY AS OF OCTOBER 10TH, SO WE ARE PENDING APPROVAL ON THAT TO GET THAT UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THE BUILDINGS HAVE NOT CHANGED, SO ONCE WE GET THE PUBLIC WORK ITEMS IN PROCESS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SUBMIT FOR BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW AGAIN.

THANK YOU. SINCE 2018, HOW MANY DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP GROUPS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED? I BELIEVE TWO.

WE WERE NOT INVOLVED WITH THE FIRST OWNERS.

WHEN THE SECOND OWNERS CAME ON BOARD, THEY BROUGHT US ON BOARD TO REWORK THE BUILDING.

THAT'S WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE NEW ELEVATIONS AND REWORKED THE FLOOR PLANS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE PREVIOUS PNC MEETING.

TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ASK THIS IS IS THERE INTEREST IN ACTUALLY PURCHASING THESE TOWNHOMES? I BELIEVE SO WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT A FEW OF THE HOMES HAVE ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED PENDING APPROVAL AND CONSTRUCTION.

OKAY. THANK YOU SIR.

ANY PLAN TO REPLACE THE AMENITY CENTER WITH THE ADDITION OF THE CITY OWNED AMENITY CENTER WITHIN A FEW MILES, THEY FELT THAT WHAT WAS BEING PROVIDED WAS SUBPAR, AND THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD PREFER TO USE WHAT THE CITY HAS.

BECAUSE IT WAS A SMALL POOL AND A GAZEBO.

IT WASN'T ANYTHING ELABORATE.

IT WAS THE SIZE OF A LOT.

THERE WASN'T MUCH THERE TO BEGIN WITH.

THERE'S STILL THE 4.4 ACRES OF WALKING TRAILS THAT'S BEING DEDICATED TO THE CITY TO THE NORTH EAST OF IT, AND THAT PORTION HAS BEEN HAS FINISHED CONSTRUCTION.

WEREN'T YOU REQUIRED, THOUGH, TO PROVIDE SOME PARK LAND AS A PART OF THE ORIGINAL PROJECT? SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN.

REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THAT PARKLAND AS A PART OF THE ORIGINAL PARKLAND PROJECT? YEAH, THEY'RE DOING IT. THE TWO LOTS OR THE FOUR POINT.

YOU MAKE IT BETTER. IF IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH, YOU CAN EXPAND IT AND MAKE IT BETTER FOR THE OTHERS.

TO ME, THAT'S JUST A QUESTION OF GREED, THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD TWO MORE TOWNHOMES AND MAKE PROFIT OFF OF IT, TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO LIVE THERE.

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.

YOU MENTIONED AN AMENITY CENTER OWNED BY THE CITY.

WHERE IS WHERE IS THAT? WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT? THE CITY. THE CITY.

REC CENTER. OKAY.

THE WRECKS IN THE WRECK.

THE WRECK. I'M LOOKING AT YOUR LIST OF EIGHT VARIANCES THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING.

A DECREASE IN LOT SIZE, SIDE YARD BETWEEN BUILDINGS ADJACENT TO THE STREET FOR THE FRONT FACING GARAGE.

MINIMUM LOT WIDTH. MINIMUM LOT DEPTH, MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT, FRONT ENTRY GARAGES.

AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT REMOVING AN AMENITY CENTER, A POOL AND A CABANA IS NOT A GOOD THING TO DO TO GAIN TWO LOTS. I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE WANTING TO GAIN THE TWO LOTS, BUT THE AMENITIES WERE PART OF THIS ORIGINAL APPROVED PROJECT AND YOU'VE HAD VARIANCES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE RUN OF THE VARIOUS OWNERS.

I THINK IT'S NOT A GOOD THING TO DO.

I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT IS JUST WRONG.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO STAY THERE LIKE IT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED, BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF THE APPROVAL.

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WE DO. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS FOR THIS CASE, BUT FOR CLARENCE MULLIS.

THREE SIX. ONE TWO.

OH. THERE IS. I'LL COME BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU ALL HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS.

CLARENCE. YEAH. SORRY, I DON'T KNOW.

HE'S SUPPOSED TO SPEAK.

GOOD EVENING. WE'LL MAKE THIS REALLY FAST.

MY NAME IS CLARENCE MUELLER, 3612 LAKE RIDGE.

AND THE CREATIVE ASPECT OF.

THERE'S A LETTER DATED IN THE PACKET FROM JANUARY OF 2018 STATING THAT THE DEVELOPERS WERE GOING TO GIVE 200,000 TO THE CITY FROM ONE OF THE OWNERS AND 50,000 TO THE OTHER TO BUILD THE EXTENSION OF BEAR CREEK TRAIL, WHICH WE WOULD FULLY SUPPORT IF THEY'RE DOING IT.

BUT I COULDN'T EXACTLY TELL IF THAT'S STILL CONTINUED AS PART OF THIS.

BUT IF IT IS, I THINK IT'S A CREATIVE USE.

I CONFIRM WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TODAY THAT IT IS OKAY, AND HE'S GOT THE RIGHT, AND HE CAN TELL HE CAN SHARE THAT, BUT HE'S HE'S GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF.

BEAUTIFUL. THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

THANK YOU. YOU HAVE IT.

ALL RIGHT. MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAD ANYTHING? NO. GOOD THREE.

Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COUNCIL? MR. CHAIRMAN, I NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. COUNCIL. MOVE TO CLOSE.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM SEVEN. PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON TR.

MAYBE WE SHOULD. CAN WE TAKE, LIKE, FIVE MINUTES? MAYOR? I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE, LIKE, 5 OR 10 MINUTES JUST REAL QUICK.

ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE THIS THESE CASES ARE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE WHILE AHEAD OF US.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT? ALL RIGHTY.

EVERYBODY'S PROBABLY GOT TO GO TO THE BATHROOM.

I GOT TO MAKE IT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK WE'RE AT ITEM SEVEN.

IS THAT THE WAY YOU READ IT? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, COME TO ORDER AGAIN.

WE DECLARE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY.

[7. Transit District Overlay TDO23-01 (Nash and Berry Townhomes) and Final Plat of Lots 1-19, 20X, Block 2-R, Nash and Berry Addition – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Richard Giberson, Berry, Jean and Nash, LLC, requesting a transit district overlay to allow for the development of nineteen single-family attached townhomes on 1.015 acres, and a replat of Lots 6, 7, and 8, Block 2, Hilltop Addition. The subject property is located at 931, 937, and 943 Jean Street and 930 and 936 Berry Street and is currently zoned “LI”, Light Industrial District.]

AND THE FINAL PLAT OF LOTS ONE THROUGH 1920.

X BLOCK TWO OR NASH AND BERRY EDITION.

ERICA MAROHNIC. YES, SIR.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 19 SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOMES AND ONE OPEN SPACE LOT ON APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE. THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF JEAN STREET, WEST SIDE OF BERRY STREET, NORTH OF EAST NASH STREET.

THE SITE IS PRESENTLY ZONED LY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND LOCATED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY FIVE NONCONFORMING SEPARATE RESIDENTIAL LOTS, FOUR OF WHICH HAVE STRUCTURES, ONE OF WHICH IS VACANT WITH THIS.

THE REQUEST. WITH THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO DEMOLISH THE FOUR STRUCTURES ALONG GENE, EAST NASH AND BERRY STREET TO THE SOUTH OF THE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. WITH THE 19 PROPOSED TOWNHOMES, THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IS PROPOSED AT 21.5 DWELLING UNITS IN ACRE.

THE TOWNHOMES ARE IDENTIFIED AS AN APPROPRIATE USE WITHIN THE HIGH INTENSITY SUBDISTRICT OF SECTION 41 BE FOUND WITHIN FIGURE THREE.

PREFERRED USE MATRIX OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THESE 19 UNITS WILL BE LOCATED IN FOUR STRUCTURES FACING EAST NASH STREET, BERRY STREET, AND JEAN STREET, AND ONE BUILDING FACING NORTH TOWARDS THE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. ALL UNITS WILL BE ON FEE SIMPLE LOTS APART FROM THE OPEN SPACE LOT, WHICH WILL BE MANAGED BY A TO BE FORMED HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

EACH UNIT WILL BE FOUR STORIES IN HEIGHT AND RANGE IN SIZE FROM 3100FT² TO 5100FT² OF LIVING SPACE, WHICH WILL INCLUDE INCLUDE GROUND FLOOR GARAGE AND FOURTH FLOOR ATTIC SPACE.

THE TOWNHOMES WILL FEATURE UP TO FIVE BEDROOMS AND FOUR AND A HALF BATHS, AND EACH UNIT WILL HAVE ITS OWN PRIVATE TWO CAR GARAGE, AND SOME OF THEM WILL BE IN A TANDEM PARKING CONFIGURATION FOR 11 OF THE 19 UNITS.

AS MENTIONED, THERE'S AN INTERNAL COURTYARD THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE ACCESSED FROM JEAN STREET TO NURTURE, ACCOMMODATE AND ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND ALSO SHARED ACCESS EASEMENTS ALLOWED FOR VEHICULAR CIRCULATION, INCLUDING INDIVIDUAL SOLID AND RECYCLING WASTE PICKUP.

THERE ARE SEVERAL UNIQUE FEATURES THAT ARE USED TO ACHIEVE THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE THAT ARE OUTLINED IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS AS PART OF YOUR AGENDA MEMO.

ALSO ATTACHED AS AN EXHIBIT TO THIS AGENDA MEMORANDUM IS AN AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLIANCE SIGNED BY THE PROJECT ARCHITECT, STATING THE PROJECT FOLLOWS THE TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY DESIGN STANDARDS.

THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT AND DEVELOPER, MR. RICHARD GIBERSON OF JEAN AND NASH LLC, IS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT HIS REQUEST AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS EITHER THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

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CHAIRMAN OLIVER AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

I COMMEND YOU ON THE MARATHON OF TONIGHT AND HOPE YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN YOU.

MY NAME IS RICHARD GIBSON.

I LIVE AT 3828 KELSEY COURT HERE IN GRAPEVINE, AND I REPRESENT THE OWNER AND DEVELOPER TEAM, WHICH IS TWO LOCAL FAMILIES, RHONDA AND MAUDE HAYWORTH AND RICHARD AND LINDA GIBSON.

BOTH THE HAYWORTH'S AND THE GIBSON'S HAVE LIVED IN GRAPEVINE FOR OVER 21 YEARS.

WE LOVE GRAPEVINE.

WE'RE HAPPY TO BE INVESTED IN GRAPEVINE.

WE'RE PLEASED TO PRESENT TONIGHT THE.

THE NATIONAL BERRY TOWNHOME PROJECT FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

I'LL GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND DESCRIBE OUR VISION FOR THE SITE.

AND THEN I'LL SHARE A BUILDING ELEVATION AS WELL AS A SAMPLE FLOOR PLAN.

WE HOPE YOU'LL BE AS EXCITED ABOUT THE NATIONAL BERRY TOWNHOMES PROJECT AS WE ARE.

THE LOCATION, AS WAS NOTED, IS JUST NORTH OF THE REC SOCCER FIELD AND SOUTH OF THE EMILY GRAPEVINE APARTMENTS.

BORDERED BY DEAN AND NASH AND BERRY STREETS, IT HAS READY ACCESS TO THE WALK AND BIKE TRAILS, AND IT'S JUST A FIVE MINUTE WALK TO GRAPEVINE MAIN.

THE SITE OCCUPIES AN INTERESTING EDGE OF THE TRANSIT DISTRICT, SO WE'RE IN THE HIGH INTENSITY SUB DISTRICT, VERY CLOSE TO THE DOWNTOWN AMENITIES AND THE TRAIN STATION.

BUT WE'RE ALSO ON AN OUTER EDGE WHERE THERE'S UNDEVELOPED SPACE OR OPEN SPACE TO OUR SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST.

AND SO THAT KIND OF INFORMED OUR VISION FOR THE PROJECT.

OUR VISION IS TO CREATE A VIBRANT CITY BLOCK OF HIGH QUALITY TOWNHOMES ON WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE BEST RESIDENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT SITE IN OUR WALKABLE DOWNTOWN.

THE TOWNHOMES FACE OUT TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

SIDEWALKS WITH STREET TREES AND BENCHES CREATE A COMFORTABLE AND INTERESTING WALK TO CONNECT THE REC WITH THE DALLAS DALLAS ROAD AND THE DEVELOPMENTS ON DALLAS ROAD.

THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE THOUGHTFUL DESIGN ARE SQUARELY ALIGNED WITH THE PREMISES AND THE IDEALS OF THE TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY.

THE HOMES WILL PROVIDE A NEW, HIGH QUALITY, FOR SALE HOUSING ALTERNATIVE IN OUR HIGH DEMAND, WALKABLE GRAPEVINE.

THAT'S THAT'S OUR VISION FOR THE PROJECT.

OUR ASPIRATION IS TO SET A NEW BENCHMARK FOR QUALITY FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN DOWNTOWN GRAPEVINE.

HERE'S A SITE PLAN.

WE HAVE 19 TOWNHOMES IN FOUR BLOCKS THAT ARE ARRANGED IN A PINWHEEL PATTERN AROUND THAT COMMON COURTYARD.

THE INTERIOR COURTYARD GIVES VEHICLE ACCESS TO GARAGES AND DRIVES, BUT ALSO, MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S ANOTHER OUTDOOR LANDSCAPE SPACE FOR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS TO MEET AND GATHER. WE REALLY THINK THAT INTERIOR COURTYARD IS IMPORTANT FOR CREATING THAT VIBRANT CITY BLOCK.

AS PART OF OUR GOAL. FOR OUR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.

WE FIRST STUDIED THE CLASSIC URBAN TOWNHOMES, MOST OF WHICH WERE BUILT IN THE LATE 1800S OR EARLY 1900S.

WE WANTED TO CAPTURE SOME OF THE KEY ELEMENTS FROM THOSE CLASSIC HISTORICAL HOMES, BUT WE DIDN'T FEEL CONSTRAINED IN ANY PARTICULAR OR SPECIFIC STYLE.

INSTEAD, WE WANTED TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT FIT WITH GRAPEVINE AND FELT TRUE TO GRAPEVINE AND FIT WITH THE SITE.

WE TOOK INSPIRATION FROM GRAPEVINE MAINE AND THE HOTEL VIGNE, FRANKLY, ESPECIALLY THE CRAFTSMANSHIP IN THE DETAILED BRICKWORK AND TILE WORK THAT YOU SEE THERE.

WE WANTED TO CAPTURE SOME OF THAT SAME CHARACTER.

THE TRANSIT DISTRICT IS HAS AN EMERGING CHARACTER IN DESIGN.

WE THINK THAT'S LED BY THE HOTEL VAN, AND IT'S COMPLEMENTARY TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

BUT IT DOESN'T TRY TO IMITATE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND WE WANTED TO CAPTURE THAT SAME FEEL WITH OUR BUILDINGS.

WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS A RENDERING OF OUR FRONT ELEVATION FOR OUR BLOCK D, WHICH FACES ONTO JEAN STREET.

THERE'S THREE OF THE SMALLER TOWNHOMES ON THE LEFT, TWO OF THE LARGER ONES ON THE RIGHT.

I'LL JUST POINT OUT A COUPLE OF FEATURES.

THE GROUND FLOOR HAS A DISCREET DOOR, SMALLER WINDOWS, YOU SEE.

IT'S MOSTLY COVERED BY THE LANDSCAPING IN THIS PARTICULAR RENDERING, BUT IT CREATES A FRIENDLY CONNECTION TO THE SIDEWALK, BUT STILL PROVIDING SOME PRIVACY.

MEANWHILE, YOU HAVE THIS STEPS GOING UP TO THE MAIN FLOOR AND THE FRONT ENTRY ON THE FIRST FLOOR ABOVE THAT.

THE. THE DISTINCTIVE BAY WINDOWS PROVIDE A NICE VANTAGE POINT TO VIEW THE SIDEWALK AND STREET BELOW.

THE LARGE WINDOWS YOU SEE LET IN AMPLE LIGHT, WHILE THE HEIGHT ABOVE THE STREET LEVELS HELPS TO PROVIDE PRIVACY.

UP ON TOP IS THE HALF FLOOR OR THE INHABITED ATTIC, AS WE LIKE TO CALL IT.

IT HAS SLOPING METAL ROOFS THAT ARE SET BACK FROM THE PARAPET WALLS.

SO FROM THE SIDEWALK RIGHT BELOW, YOU DON'T EVEN SEE THAT.

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THAT HALF STORY ON TOP IS SET BACK A LITTLE BIT.

THE UP THERE ALSO ARE SOME MODEST ROOFTOP TERRACES.

ENOUGH ROOM FOR POTTED PLANTS AND A COUPLE OF CHAIRS TO ENJOY THE VIEWS AND THE FRESH AIR.

BLOCK C, WHICH FACES ONTO ONTO NASH STREET, LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO BLOCK D.

BLOCK A AND BLOCK B LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

THEY HAVE DIFFERENT FACING DIRECTIONS AND DIFFERENT SIZES OF HOMES, BUT HAVE THE SAME GENERAL FEEL AND CHARACTER.

THERE'S A VARIETY OF HOME SIZES AND LAYOUTS, BUT THERE'S A COHESIVE FEEL AND UNITY TO THE SITE, SO WE INCORPORATE CLASSICAL TOWNHOME ATTRIBUTES IN A WAY THAT FITS GRAPEVINE HISTORICAL CHARACTER AND ITS FORWARD VISION FOR THE TRANSIT DISTRICT.

WE CREATE HOMES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, USABLE, FUNCTIONAL, NEW, BUT REALLY FEEL FAMILIAR AND COMFORTABLE.

JUST TO WRAP UP, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PRACTICALITIES.

HERE'S A SAMPLE FLOOR PLAN FROM ONE OF THE LARGER HOMES.

THE GROUND FLOOR HAS A GARAGE, A MUDROOM AND KITCHENETTE, A BEDROOM, BATHROOM, LAUNDRY ROOM, AND AN ELEVATOR.

THIS GROUND FLOOR BEDROOM SUITE COULD BE PERFECT FOR AN ADULT CHILD OR AN AGING PARENT THAT'S LIVING WITH THE FAMILY.

JUST ABOVE THAT IS THE MAIN LIVING FLOOR WITH THE ENTRY DINING KITCHEN LIVING AREAS INCLUDING A SCREENED BACK PORCH.

THE NEXT FLOOR UP HAS ANOTHER LIVING AREA AND THE PRIMARY BEDROOM SUITE, AND THEN THE TOP HALF FLOOR IN THIS HOME HAS TWO BEDROOMS WITH A CONNECTING BATH BETWEEN THEM.

IN ALL OF THIS, 3200 SQUARE FOOT HOME HAS FOUR BEDROOMS, THREE AND A HALF BATHS AND AMPLE LIVING SPACE BOTH INDOOR AND OUT.

OTHER HOMES ON THE SITE RANGE FROM 2300 TO 3400FT².

THOSE ARE MY PREPARED COMMENTS.

THANKS FOR ALL THE TEAM I'VE NOTED NAMES OF.

OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US ON THIS PROJECT.

SOME OF THEM ARE HERE.

SOME OF THEM MAY BE HAD TO RETIRE EARLIER IN THE EVENING AND ARE NOT HERE.

IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING THE NATIONAL BARRY TOWNHOMES PROJECT FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

WE ARE GLAD TO BE PART OF THE THOUGHTFUL REDEVELOPMENT OF THE TRANSIT DISTRICT AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN. QUESTIONS. IT LOOKS FROM THE RENDERING THAT THE BRICK IS GOING TO BE GRAY LIKE THE COLOR OF THE STONE. SO WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON THE FINAL BRICK.

WHAT'S REALLY INTENDED, OR WHAT WE MOSTLY HAVE TALKED ABOUT, IS MORE OF A BUFF OR SANDY COLOR, OR MAYBE EVEN A LIGHT ROSE.

WE WILL NOT USE A DARK RED, BECAUSE WE WANT TO CLEARLY DISTINGUISH OURSELVES FROM THE APARTMENT COMPLEX TO OUR NORTH.

THAT'S MOSTLY A DARK RED BRICK.

SO WE'VE LOOKED AT MORE OF THE SAND OR OR A LIGHT ROSE COLOR.

THEN IS IT ALL GOING TO BE ONE UNIFORM BRICK OR SO BY TOWNHOME OR BY BUILDING.

SO WE'LL CONTROL THE BRICK COLOR.

SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WHERE THE BUYER CAN SAY WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

WE'LL CONTROL ALL THE EXTERNAL PERSPECTIVE.

SO AT LEAST EACH INDIVIDUAL BLOCK WILL BE A UNIFORM BRICK COLOR.

WE MAY USE THE SAME UNIFORM BRICK COLOR FOR ALL FOUR BLOCKS.

OR THERE MAY BE SOME VARIATION FROM BLOCK TO BLOCK, BUT A GIVEN BLOCK WILL BE A SINGLE BRICK COLOR.

THANK YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT ON THIS ONE IS THE DENSITY ON THIS.

19 UNITS FOR THE ACRE.

DO Y'ALL CONSIDER ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT? WELL, WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS IN THE EARLY GOING.

AND. CERTAINLY IF YOU IF YOU CONSIDER THE TYPICAL SUBURBAN RULES FOR, FOR DEVELOPMENT OR DENSITIES, THIS DOESN'T FIT THOSE REGULAR RULES, RIGHT.

THIS IS DONE UNDER THE TRANSIT DISTRICT WHICH HAS A DIFFERENT OBJECTIVE, RIGHT, RATHER THAN SPREAD THINGS OUT.

WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A COMPACT, WALKABLE PORTION OF OUR CITY.

AND SO WE REALLY WANT TO CREATE AND FOLLOW THAT OBJECTIVE OF THE TRANSIT DISTRICT.

AND SO THAT ALIGNED WELL WITH WITH OUR OBJECTIVES IN ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE ABLE TO FIT AS MUCH AS WE CAN ON THE SITE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A UNIQUE ROADS ON THREE SIDES, RIGHT? THE STREETS ARE ON THREE SIDES.

AND THAT OPENS UP OPPORTUNITIES THAT IF WE ONLY HAD STREET FRONTAGE ON 1 OR 2 SIDES, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT.

I JUST LIKE TO SAY I APPRECIATE A THOROUGH AND PROFESSIONAL MAN.

CAN YOU SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. I JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR A THOROUGH AND PROFESSIONAL PRESENTATION.

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MATTER OF FACT, IT'S HIGHER THAN WHAT WE ALLOW IN OUR MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT BY ONE AND A HALF UNITS PER ACRE.

SO IT IS PRETTY DENSE COMPARED TO ANYTHING ELSE WE HAVE, FOR THAT MATTER, IN SPITE OF THAT.

BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT VEHICULAR PARKING AND IF THEY HAVE VISITORS AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME THEY'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO PARK ON THE STREET NOW.

SO FIRST, WITH REGARD TO DENSITY, THE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX JUST NORTH OF US HAS ABOUT 40, I THINK, ABOUT 49 UNITS, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, I AGREE.

RIGHT. SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOTHING CLOSE TO THAT OR NOTHING CLOSE TO 49.

I THINK THE OTHER THE OTHER PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WORKS OUT TO BE ABOUT ABOUT 14 PER ACRE RELATIVE TO OUR 19 PER ACRE. SO THAT GIVES A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT.

I THINK IN TERMS OF THE PARKING, I DO HAVE AN EXHIBIT THAT MIGHT HELP WITH THIS.

ALL RIGHT. SO UNDER THE CITY REQUIREMENTS WE NEED TO PROVIDE TWO OFF STREET PARKING FOR EACH HOME.

SO THAT'S THE 38 REQUIREMENT OF THE CITY.

SO WE'RE PROVIDING 55 OFFICIAL PARKING SPOTS.

SO THEY'RE NOTED HERE ON THE EXHIBIT.

THE BLUE ONES THE BLUE BOXES REPRESENT GARAGE PARKING SPOTS.

SO EVERY HOME HAS AT LEAST A TWO CAR GARAGE.

SOME HAVE THREE.

THERE'S ONE THAT HAS FOUR.

SO THOSE ARE THE COVERED PARKING SPOTS.

SO THAT'S 42.

AND THEN WE HAVE 13 OTHER OUTDOOR SPACES THAT ARE THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AS A PARKING SPOT.

RIGHT. SO MOST OF THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ALL NOTED IN THE KIND OF THE ORANGE HERE.

THAT'S ASSUMING THAT THE OTHER TENANTS ARE PULLING INSIDE THEIR GARAGE.

WELL, TRUE TO USE TO USE YOUR DRIVEWAY, YOU WOULD NEED TO PARK YOUR CAR IN THE GARAGE.

I WILL POINT OUT THAT OUR RESIDENTS DON'T NEED TO KEEP ALL THEIR LAWN EQUIPMENT WHEN THEY DOWNSIZE TO THE TOWNHOME, BECAUSE THAT'LL BE TAKEN CARE OF FOR THEM.

THERE'S AMPLE ROOM IN THE IN THE GARAGES, NOT JUST FOR THE CARS.

THERE'S TYPICALLY MUCH MORE ROOM FOR STORAGE.

SO WE WOULD CERTAINLY EXPECT TENANTS IN GENERAL OR LANDOWNERS IN GENERAL, HOMEOWNERS TO PARK IN THEIR GARAGES.

THERE ARE TWO OF THESE SPOTS THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS SPECIFICALLY FOR VISITORS THAT ARE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY, THAT ARE NEAR THE COURTYARD, AND THESE IN BLOCK B, SORRY.

GO AHEAD. NO, I'LL WAIT, I'LL WAIT.

I'LL LET ME FINISH. I'M SORRY.

NOW, AND THESE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT MEET THE OFFICIAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

I MEAN, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE A DRIVEWAY THAT'S JUST NOT QUITE ABLE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT FOR TO BE COUNTED AS A PARKING.

SO THOSE ARE NOT COUNTED HERE.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, WELL, DROP OFF AND PICK UP OR A VERY TEMPORARY USE, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER SPACES.

I MEAN, HERE'S THE HERE'S THE MAP THAT SHOWS THAT.

RIGHT. SO THERE'S ANOTHER 15 SPOTS THAT COULD BE USED ON A TEMPORARY PICK UP DROP OFF PERSPECTIVE.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS HERE.

ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

I HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE DENSITY AS WELL.

I THINK YOU'RE PACKING A LOT IN HERE, AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT IT'S ON THE PERIPHERY OF THE DISTRICT.

YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'VE GOT OPEN SPACE TO THE SOUTH SOUTHEAST, AND I THINK YOU'VE GOT JUST WAY TOO MUCH PACKED ON HERE.

AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE CARS WOULD PARK, I THINK THAT JUST EXACERBATES OR HIGHLIGHTS HOW HOW PACKED THIS IS.

IT BECOMES A CONCRETE JUNGLE THERE.

AND I THINK ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE RELYING ON UTILIZING TANDEM TYPE PARKING STYLES IN THE GARAGES, I JUST DON'T THINK I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO NECESSARILY DO THAT, BECAUSE THAT CREATES AN INCONVENIENCE FOR THEM HAVING TO COORDINATE COMING AND GOING IF THERE'S TWO CARS, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE RELYING ON OTHER PARKING ALTERNATIVES.

AND THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT YOU'VE MADE.

IT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'VE FORCED INTO THIS WITH DOING THIS MANY UNITS.

WHEREAS IF YOU DID A SMALLER NUMBER OF UNITS, YOU'D HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY AND SOME SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING AND, AND HAVE THE, THE COMING AND GOING WITHOUT HAVING SO MUCH CONCRETE HERE AND PEOPLE KIND OF ALMOST RELYING ON OTHER PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS TO FIT THEIR CARS.

SO AGAIN, WE FEEL THAT THIS IS THIS, THESE ARE BUILDINGS AND HOMES THAT WILL ATTRACT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE IN DOWNTOWN GRAPEVINE. AND WHY DO THEY WANT TO LIVE IN DOWNTOWN GRAPEVINE? SO THEY CAN WALK TO THE RESTAURANTS SO THEY CAN WALK TO STEHLINI SO THEY CAN WALK TO HOFFENSTEIN? I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.

WE'RE NOT DISAGREEING WITH THAT.

IT'S JUST THE AMOUNT OF UNITS YOU'RE PUTTING ON HERE.

THE PROBLEM IS, IF I LIVED IN LOT THREE, 4 OR 5, NOBODY COULD COME SEE ME.

NOT THAT I HAVE FRIENDS TO BEGIN WITH, BUT THERE'S THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO PARK.

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THERE'S THERE ARE VISITOR PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE DESIGNATED SPECIFICALLY FOR VISITORS.

RIGHT. WHERE DO YOU.

THAT'S NOT REAL. AND WHERE DO YOU PUT THE TRASH CANS? HOW DOES THE TRASH GET PICKED UP? IT'S ONLY 20 FOOT WIDE STREET THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN.

THEY'RE PUTTING IN A PRIVATE 20 FOOT YARD.

20 FOOT STREET.

AND YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE UNITS THAT OPEN ON BARRIER GENES.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THE TRASH CANS WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY.

RIGHT. SO HERE'S HERE'S I PUT UP ON THE SCREEN.

HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE GARBAGE PLAN THAT WAS WORKED UP WITH WITH REPUBLIC.

SO THE GARBAGE NEEDS TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE TRUCK FOR RECYCLING TODAY.

AND THEY'RE ANTICIPATING IN THE FUTURE THAT THEIR GARBAGE PICKUP MAY ALSO BE ONLY ON THE RIGHT SIDE WITH AUTOMATED EQUIPMENT.

SO ALL OF THE GARBAGE PICKUP NEEDS TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE TRUCK.

SO FOR BLOCK A YOU SEE THERE'S JUST ON THE TOP OF BLOCK D, THERE'S A SET OF THAT ORANGE BAR THAT'S THE SPACE FOR THEIR GARBAGE AND RECYCLING BINS TO GO ON PICKUP DAYS FOR BLOCK A THE TRUCK ENTERS FROM GENE.

THE TRUE PATH HERE IS A ONE WAY PATH.

SO VEHICLES ENTER FROM GENE.

THEY WILL EXIT ONTO BERRY.

SO THE TRUCK IS GOING IN THERE.

IT'LL PICK UP FOR BLOCK A AND THAT FIRST BANK NORTH OF BLOCK D.

THEN IT TURNS AND COMES DOWN AND PICKS UP BEHIND THE DRIVEWAYS ON BLOCK D.

IT BACKS UP AND THEN CONTINUES OUT TO PICK UP ON BLOCK C.

AND THEN FOR BLOCK B THEIR DRIVEWAYS ACTUALLY FACE OUT ONTO BERRY STREET AND THOSE WOULD BE PICKED UP AS NORMAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE.

SO WE DID REVIEW THIS WITH REPUBLIC AND AND PUBLIC WORKS STAFF HAD US DO MODELS TO SHOW THAT THE TRUCK WOULD GET THROUGH THERE.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT EXERCISE WITH WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

I DO WANT TO SAY THAT FIRST PLACE, YOU DO A REALLY GOOD JOB AT PRESENTATION.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND I LIKE THE LOOK OF THEM.

I REALLY LIKE THE APPEARANCE OF WHAT YOU PRESENTED.

I JUST THINK THERE'S TOO MANY UNITS.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

I JUST THINK YOU'RE FILLING TOO MUCH IN THAT ON THAT SPOT.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

DO YOU HAVE YOU DONE ANOTHER PROJECT ANYWHERE ALREADY SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE WORK YOU'VE DONE? OR SO WE ARE ROOKIE DEVELOPERS, BUT WE HIRED A LOT OF PROFESSIONALS TO HELP US.

RIGHT. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ANY OTHER POINT YOU TO ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE DID.

AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE BREAKDOWN.

THESE ARE DIFFERENT SIZES.

SO WHAT'S THE BREAKDOWN.

WHAT'S THE SMALLEST TO THE LARGEST.

HOW MANY. SO THERE ARE SIX OF THE HOMES ARE THE SMALLER ONES WHICH WOULD START AROUND ABOUT 2300FT² OKAY.

RIGHT. SO THOSE THREE THREE OF THOSE ARE IN BLOCK D.

THREE OF THOSE ARE IN BLOCK C.

AND THEN IT GOES UP FROM THERE.

MOST OF THEM ARE ARE CLOSER TO THAT 2800 TO 3000FT² TO 3200.

THE LARGEST ONES ARE THE THE FOUR ON BLOCK B THAT ARE CLOSER TO 33, 3400FT².

AND THOSE ARE FOUR BEDROOMS. RIGHT. SOME OF THOSE ARE THOSE ARE FIVE BEDROOMS. SO THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE THREE BEDROOM HOMES AND THEN UP TO FIVE BEDROOMS OKAY.

SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SO I MEAN THAT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD SIZE PLACE TO LIVE, RIGHT? I MEAN, COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY NOW, IS THERE A PATIO ON THE TOP FLOOR? DO YOU HAVE THAT. SO LET ME SO THE OUR ARCHITECT WANTED TO BRING HIS MODEL.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IF HOW VISIBLE THAT IS OR IF WE WANT TO IF WE CAN PUT THE SCREEN DOWN IF THAT HELPS.

ALL OF THE ALL OF THE HOMES HAVE SOME OUTDOOR TERRACE SPACE OR PATIO SPACE, TYPICALLY IN THE REAR FACING ONTO THE COURTYARD.

THEY ALSO HAVE A SMALL ROOFTOP SPACES.

SO UNLIKE SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENTS WILL DO LIKE A LARGE ROOFTOP DECK SPACE. AND OUR ANALYSIS SUGGESTED THAT WHEN THE WHEN THAT OUTDOOR SPACE IS FAR REMOVED FROM WHERE YOU LIVE DAY TO DAY, IT TENDS TO GET NOT USED VERY OFTEN. WE WANTED TO PUT MORE OF OUR OUTDOOR SPACE RIGHT NEXT TO OUR LIVING SPACES, WHERE PEOPLE WERE ALREADY SPENDING TIME, RIGHT? SO. SO ALL OF THEM HAVE SOME OUTDOOR TERRACE SPACE, SOME OF THE CORNER ONES, SOME OF THESE LARGER CORNER ONES HAVE MULTIPLE LAYERS OR MULTIPLE LEVELS WHERE THEY HAVE A TERRACE OR A COVERED PATIO OR A SCREENED PATIO.

I UNDERSTAND THE DENSITY PART, BUT WITH THESE, THESE ARE PRETTY GOOD SIZE.

I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT LIKE, I KNOW IT SEEMS THAT THEY'RE CRAMMED IN, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD SIZED UNITS, RIGHT?

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WHAT WHAT IS THE PRICE RANGE? WELL, WE HAVEN'T SET FORMAL PRICING, BUT AND I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THE OVERALL ESCALATION IN COSTS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, BUT EVEN THE SMALLER ONES ARE LIKELY RIGHT AROUND $1 MILLION.

RIGHT. AND GOES UP FROM THERE.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT THE DENSITY, BUT I DON'T I THINK THESE THINGS WOULD NOT LAST VERY LONG ON THE MARKET.

MOST OF THE RAILROAD DISTRICTS DESIGNED FOR HIGH DENSITY FAMILIES RIDING THE TRAIN TO WORK, THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED IN IN GRAPEVINE PEOPLE ARE NOT RIDING THE TRAIN TO WORK.

WE CREATED THE RAILROAD DISTRICT PRIMARILY FOR RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL, GENERATE SALES TAX TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE ABOUT 65% OF IT'S NOT ON THE TAX ROLL.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN PROVIDE CITY SERVICES.

I DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT OF THIS TYPE OF DENSITY.

AND. EVERYBODY WANTS TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, I MEAN, IN THE RAILROAD DISTRICT.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, YOU JUST.

IT'S JUST. IT'S TOO FAR OFF THE RAILROAD AND IT JUST SETS THE PRESIDENTS TOO DENSE, DOESN'T PROVIDE ENOUGH PARKING. IT'S JUST ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE THE PRICE OF THE LAND IS DICTATED, THE DENSITY.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO.

THE WHAT WE DO, WE DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN.

WE STAY WITH OUR RULES.

WE'RE FOLLOWING WITHIN THE RULES OF THE TRANSIT DISTRICT.

THE AGAIN, WE SIT WITHIN THE HIGH INTENSITY PORTION OF THE TRANSIT DISTRICT, WHICH IS DESIGNED FOR THE MOST INTENSIVE USES, A FIVE MINUTE WALK TO THE TRAIN STATION.

AND I TOTALLY AGREE THAT WE NEED MORE BUSINESSES AND SERVICES IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA.

AND FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO COME UNTIL THE PEOPLE ARE THERE.

AND THIS IS NOT MULTIFAMILY, THIS IS INDIVIDUAL LOTS, SINGLE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

IT'S AN APARTMENT JUST RUN BY PEOPLE.

THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

YOU'RE CALLING IT A TOWNHOME BECAUSE YOU'RE SELLING THEM.

IT'S AN APARTMENT.

WELL, YOU OWN THE LAND JUST LIKE YOU DO ANY OTHER SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

THEIR FIREWALLS. I KNOW THAT USED TO BE THERE.

YEAH. THERE ARE SPECIAL RULES AROUND THE.

YES. EXACTLY WHAT WE DON'T WANT IN THE RAILROAD DISTRICT, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. I HAVE ONE.

CLARENCE MILLER, 3612 LAKE RIDGE.

HELLO AGAIN. THIS IS CLARENCE MUELLER, 3612 LAKE RIDGE.

AND AS WE LOOK AT THESE TRANSIT DISTRICT CASES, WE CONTINUE TO COME ACROSS THE SAME THING.

AND THEY TALK ABOUT WALKABILITY AND THAT KIND OF THING.

AND THEN THE FIRST REQUEST THEY WANT TO DO IS NARROW THE SIDEWALKS, WHICH THEY'VE ASKED FOR HERE, AND SAYING THAT'S IN SPIRIT OF THE TRANSIT DISTRICT.

IN FACT, IT'S ANTITHETICAL TO THE OVERLAY.

AND SO FOR THAT, WE OPPOSE IT.

AND I DO REALLY APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL AND STAFF PUTTING OUT A THOUGHTFUL OVERLAY AND PROTECTING IT.

BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DITTO ON THE NEXT CASE BECAUSE WE'VE DONE IT AGAIN.

BUT I HATE TO SEE EVERY TIME WE PUT OUT SOMETHING WHERE WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THINGS THAT ARE WALKABLE, THEN THE FIRST THING WE DO TO SQUEEZE IN ONE MORE UNIT IS SQUEEZE DOWN THE THE WALKING PATHS.

SO THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE? THERE IS ONE LETTER.

I'M SORRY, TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? CLOSED THE MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

MOVE TO CLOSE. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. PUBLIC HEARINGS CLOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY 202302 GRAPEVINE BROWNSTONES.

[8. Transit District Overlay TD023-02 (Grapevine Brownstones, Phase II) and Final Plat of Lot 2, Block 1, Hasten Addition – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Greg Gifford, NCP Grapevine Brownstones II, requesting a transit district overlay to allow for a 20-unit condominium development on 1.24 acres and a replat of a portion of Lot 4, Block 53, Original Town of Grapevine. The subject property is located at 235 East Nash Street and is currently zoned “LI”, Light Industrial District.]

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY TO ALLOW FOR A CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT OF 20 UNITS ON A 1.24 ACRE LOT.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST ALICE ROAD AND NORTH OF EAST NASH STREET.

THE PROPERTY IS PRESENTLY ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND IS LOCATED WITHIN THE TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED SECOND PHASE OF THE GRAPEVINE BROWNSTONES PHASE ONE DEVELOPMENT TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST, WHICH WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR IN 2022 FOR TEN UNITS AT 14 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

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EXCUSE ME. ALL UNITS WILL APPEAR AS BROWNSTONES, BUT THEY WILL NOT BE ON FEE.

SIMPLE LOTS. THIS WILL BE ON ONE LOT CONDOMINIUM OWNERSHIP.

EACH UNIT WILL BE FOUR STORIES IN HEIGHT, APPROXIMATELY 51FT, WITH THREE STORIES UNDER AIR WITH A FOURTH STORY IS A ROOFTOP TERRACE CONSISTENT WITH PHASE ONE TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST, AND WILL FEATURE AT LEAST THREE BEDROOMS. EACH UNIT WILL HAVE ITS OWN PRIVATE TWO CAR GARAGE.

THE SITE WILL HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS, ONE DIRECTLY FROM EAST ALICE ROAD AND ONE FROM EAST NASH STREET, AND AN INTERNAL ACCESS POINT TO THE NORTH FROM PHASE ONE.

ATTACHED TO THIS EXHIBIT IS AN AGENDA MEMO, WHICH IS AN AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLIANCE SIGNED BY THE PROJECT ARCHITECT, STATING THE PROJECT FOLLOWS BOTH A DESIGN MANUAL FOR MULTIFAMILY AND VERTICAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS THE DESIGN STANDARDS.

THE APPLICANT, MR. GREG GIFFORD WITH NEW CITY CAPITAL, IS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. ERICA. MAYOR TATE, MEMBERS OF PLANNING AND ZONING.

MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS GREG GIFFORD.

I LIVE AT 1701 DUNN STREET HERE IN GRAPEVINE.

WE'RE HERE PRESENTING PHASE TWO OF THE GRAPEVINE BROWNSTONE DEVELOPMENT.

BOTH PHASES WERE ORIGINALLY INTENDED AT THE SAME TIME.

YOU'LL SEE SOME ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS THAT TIE IT TOGETHER AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

LET'S SEE HERE THIS.

SO IN THIS IN THIS RENDERING, YOU'LL SEE A BAY WINDOW ON THE BOOKENDS OF PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.

IT'S AN OCTAGON BAY.

THIS IS A 25 FOOT WIDE HOME, 47 FOOT DEEP.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE LARGER ONES ON THE STREET FACING SIDE.

WE HAVE STREET FACING AND GARAGE FACING.

WE CALL THEM ROWHOUSES.

THE DALLAS ROAD HOMES HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY SOUGHT AFTER.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT IS THE INTENT, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

SO THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS LAKE GRAPEVINE DOWN MAIN STREET HOTEL VAN HARVEST HALL. THERE'S OUR TWO LOTS, PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.

THIS IS A AERIAL VIEW FROM THE TOP OF THE VAN LOOKING SOUTH.

YOU'LL SEE PHASE ONE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND PHASE TWO ON THE ADJOINING LOT TO ITS LEFT.

YOU JUST SAW THIS MAP? IT IS THE TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY.

YOU SEE THE YELLOW REPRESENTATION OF WHERE PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO ARE.

OBVIOUSLY, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT'S AN IDEAL LOCATION.

THE TABLE TO THE RIGHT IS THE PREFERRED MATRIX OF PREFERRED USE MATRIX WITHIN THE.

YOU'LL SEE CONDOMINIUMS, TOWNHOMES, AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES LISTED.

THIS IS THE ARCHITECTURE LETTER OF APPROVAL, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD IN PHASE ONE.

THE KEY POINTS TO THIS ARE THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN WE KIND OF USE.

THE FEDERALIST STYLE DESIGN KIND OF MIMICS WHAT GRAPEVINE IS FAMILIAR WITH.

A LOT OF CAST STONE GOT A LOT OF ENTABLATURES, HAVE A LOT OF COLUMNS, OF COURSE, BANDS, APRONS AROUND THE BOTTOM OF THE BUILDING.

WE TRY TO SAY THAT THE CAST STONE TIES IT TOGETHER, BUT THE BRICK MAKES THEM DIFFERENT.

WE HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT BRICK COLORS IN THE ENTIRE COMPLEX, BUT NO TWO NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER ARE ALIKE.

THE PARAPETS USE BALUSTRADES AND IRON RAILS, SO YOU'LL SEE NO TWO NEXT TO EACH OTHER LIKE.

THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL WAS THE STREETSCAPE ALONG DALLAS AVENUE.

WE BELIEVE WE CONTRIBUTE TO WHAT THE CITY WANTED THERE IN A BIG WAY, WITH EIGHT HOMES COMING ACROSS DALLAS ROAD, NASH STREET, SAME WAY WE HAVE THREE HOMES ON NASH STREET. AGAIN, THE HOMES OF THE BOOKEND THE THE END CAPS OF THE BUILDINGS ARE ALL THE THE OCTAGON BAY WINDOWS AND THEY'RE PRETTY POPULAR HOMES. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.

SO YOU'LL SEE PHASE ONE, THE SQUARE AT THE TOP AND YOU'LL SEE IT ADJOINING PHASE TWO, WHICH IS THE RECTANGLE AT THE BOTTOM.

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YOU'LL SEE THE OTHER THOSE ARE 25 FOOT HOMES WITH THOSE LARGE BAY WINDOWS.

THAT KIND OF MAKES UP THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT OF THE COMBINED COMMUNITY.

SO THIS IS THE ROW HOUSES, AS YOU CAN SEE, COMING DOWN THE FIRE LANE.

FIRE LANE IS ACCESSED BY BOTH NASH STREET AND DALLAS ROAD.

THOSE ARE 27 FOOT WIDE HOMES WITH THE KEYSTONE ENTRIES.

THEY ALL HAVE BALCONIES ON THESE ROW HOUSES.

SO IT'S A 20.

IT'S A 20, 22 FOOT WIDE GARAGE AND A FIVE FOOT WIDE ENTRY ON THESE.

THESE ARE THE LARGER OF THE HOMES.

THEY'RE 3100FT².

THE SMALLER ONES ARE 27.

THE SAME HOMES THAT WERE IN PHASE ONE ARE REPEATED IN PHASE TWO.

WE BELIEVE THAT WAS A WINNER, SO WE'RE STICKING WITH IT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S IT.

SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

WELL, LET'S. PARKING WAS AN ISSUE BEFORE.

YES, SIR. TELL US ABOUT YOUR PARKING SITUATION ON PHASE TWO, I DON'T SEE.

SO PHASE TWO, WE MIMIC THE SAME APPROVAL PROCESS THAT HAPPENED ON PHASE ONE.

ALL HOMES HAVE TWO CAR GARAGE TUCKED UNDER OR IN FRONT, AND THE ROW HOUSES HAVE TWO CAR GUEST PARKING IN FRONT OF THOSE.

SO THE THE CODE IS 0.5 PARKING PER HOME.

SO WE SATISFY THAT WITH SIX PARALLEL PARKING ALONG THE FIRE LANE THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE LOWER END OF THIS. LET ME GET TO THE.

ON THE EAST SIDE RIGHT HERE.

SO YOU'LL SEE THE SIX PARALLEL PARKING ON THE FIRE LANE.

AND THOSE SATISFY CODE FOR BUILDING ONE.

BUILDING TWO BUILDING.

FOUR AND FIVE.

AND BUILDING THREE SATISFIES ITS OWN PARKING IN FRONT OF IT.

IT IS A DENSITY SITUATION.

OBVIOUSLY PARKING IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE, BUT WE WE BELIEVE THAT MIMICKING WHAT WAS SUCCESSFUL IN PHASE ONE AND APPLYING IT TO PHASE TWO WAS A GOOD THING TO DO.

I DO WANT TO MAKE COMMENT ABOUT SOME OF THE ELEMENTS ON THIS.

ON THIS CHART HERE YOU'LL SEE THE RADIUSES FOR THE ENTRIES AND THE EXIT ON DALLAS ROAD, AND AGAIN ON NASH STREET.

AND THOSE WERE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND AND PLANNING SERVICES.

A LOT OF DETAIL WENT INTO THIS APPLICATION, THIS TIME WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO ADDRESS FOR ALL THE UNIQUE ELEMENTS.

IF I DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE PAGE 12 OF 12IN YOUR IN YOUR CIVIL SCHEDULES, YOU'LL SEE SOMETHING AS DETAILED AS WHERE EACH OF THE WATER METERS ARE SET TO GO AT EACH HOME.

WE APPRECIATE THAT LEVEL OF WORK THIS TIME.

WE WE'RE STANDING HERE TONIGHT AFTER FIVE SUBMISSIONS.

THAT'S OKAY. WE'D RATHER DO IT ON THE FRONT END THAN DURING CONSTRUCTION.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE PLEASED WITH IT.

A LOT OF DEMAND FOR THE COMMUNITY.

IT SHOWS YOU THE DEMAND FOR LIVING IN THE TRANSIT DISTRICT.

AND WE THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND HARVEST HALL.

THEN THAT'S WHAT DRIVES VALUE, NOT JUST VALUE BUT INTEREST.

RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE WE SELL EXPERIENCES.

AND EVEN THOUGH THIS IS PLATTED AS ONE LOT, BOTH PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO ARE INDIVIDUALLY DIFFERENT LOTS.

THE HOMES ARE CONDOMINIUMS. SO THE BUYERS RECEIVE A CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.

WE SHARED THAT WITH WITH ERICA AND STAFF ON PHASE ONE.

WE'LL DO THE SAME THING ON PHASE TWO.

QUESTION. YEAH.

THE SAME EXHIBIT THAT YOU WERE POINTING OUT THE THE PARALLEL PARKING.

YES, MA'AM. ABOVE THAT WHERE IT SAYS EXISTING PARKING.

I'M NOT ORIENTED.

WHOSE IS THAT? YOU'VE GOT THE TEN FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT AND THEN.

I'M OVER HERE. YEAH.

THAT'S NOT. YEAH.

THAT'S. SO THAT'S TOTALLY SOMEBODY ELSE'S PARKING, RIGHT? YEAH. YOU'VE GOT THE BLUE BOX.

AND THEN BELOW THAT WHERE IT SAYS EXISTING ON THE EASEMENT.

SO THAT'S TOTALLY SOMEONE ELSE'S PARKING.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

OKAY. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

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YEAH. I'M WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION ON PHASE ONE.

PHASE TWO DENSITIES.

SO ERICA, DID YOU SAY PHASE ONE DENSITY WAS 14 ACRES OR 14 UNITS PER ACRE? YES. AND THIS ONE IS 16 UNITS PER ACRE.

SO WE'RE INCREASING DENSITY.

YES. YEAH. OKAY.

IT'S A LARGER SITE AS WELL.

AND AND WE'RE WE'RE BACK TO FILING THIS UNDER ERIC.

THIS IS BACK FILED UNDER THE TOWNHOME ORDINANCE.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO, WE'RE REFERRING TO THIS AS CONDOMINIUM.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A CONDOMINIUM ORDINANCE.

WE HAVE A DEFINITION OF CONDOMINIUM IN THE USE LISTED IN 41.

B IS WHAT WE'RE USING.

WHAT'S THE UNITS PER ACRE FOR IT? FOR CONDOMINIUMS WOULD JUST FALL TO MULTIFAMILY.

WHICH WOULD BE A MAXIMUM OF 20 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

OKAY. BROTHERS BAND.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? I JUST HAD A COUPLE, SO I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND.

I THINK YOU COVERED IT. WHERE THE LEGAL STRUCTURE OF ONE LOT CONDOMINIUM OWNERSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT PHASES IS THE SAME STRUCTURE, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY.

AND THEN THE DISTANCE WHERE YOU HAVE BETWEEN IN PHASE ONE BUILDING ONE OVER TO SAY UNIT 13.

IN BUILDING FOUR IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A WALKWAY IN THERE.

WHAT KIND OF GAP IS THERE BETWEEN A THREE FOOT WIDE WALK PATH DESIRED BY THE CITY TO MOVE PEDESTRIANS THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, DOWN THE THE PEDESTRIAN WALK PATH, THEN ACROSS COMING TOWARDS THE REC CENTER? OKAY. SO WE ACCOMMODATED THAT WITH THAT THREE FOOT WIDE WALK PATH.

AND HOW FAR IS IT BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS? TEN FOOT BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. YOU SAID THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE FIRST PHASE.

HAVE YOU ALREADY SOLD SOME OF THE UNITS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THEY'RE ALL RESERVED.

THANK YOU. PHASE ONE IS ALL SOLD.

SO. I BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT REGARDING THE PARKING THAT PROJECTS THAT THIS DENSITY, THAT PARKING IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE, YOU COULD SOLVE THAT IF YOU BROUGHT IT DOWN TO THE SAME DENSITY THAT YOU OFFERED IN THE FIRST PHASE.

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED DOING THAT, OR WHY HAVEN'T YOU CONSIDERED DOING THAT? WELL, OTHER THAN MONEY? BECAUSE IT'S IT'S UNIFORM.

WE HAVE EIGHT ROW HOUSES ON DALLAS ROAD.

WE HAVE EIGHT ROW HOUSES INTERNALLY ON THE FIRE LANE ON PHASE TWO.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ELEVATIONS, THEY'RE SELECTED TO KIND OF.

YOU KNOW, KIND OF HAVE A CORRESPONDING CHARACTERISTIC TO THEM.

EVEN THE CUTTERS, EVEN THE CUTTER CUTTER LEGEND KIND OF HAS A LOT OF THOUGHT HAS BEEN PUT INTO THAT.

SO YOU HAVE THREE BUILDINGS ON THREE UNITS IN BUILDING ONE, THREE BUILDINGS IN UNIT TWO, EIGHT BUILDINGS IN UNIT THREE, THREE AND THEN THREE.

SO WE BELIEVE THAT MAKES IT A NICE UNIFORM COMMUNITY.

AND IT ALLOWS OUR ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS TO TO BE MARRIED REFLECTED BUILDING THAT HAS EIGHT IN IT.

YOU COULD CUT IT DOWN TO SIX AND SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM AND IT WOULD STILL BE UNIFORM.

THREE AND THREE SIX.

GOOD. WE CHOSE TO SATISFY THE DEMAND.

THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND, A LOT OF INTEREST.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT DENSITY IS CONSISTENT WITH BROWNSTONES THAT YOU SEE IN THE NORTHEAST.

I KNOW WE'RE NOT MANHATTAN, BUT WE'RE GRAPEVINE.

THANK YOU. YOU BET.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? APPARENTLY NOT. DO WE HAVE ANY WISH? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU BET. THANK YOU.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. CHRIS LEYDEN, 1902 SADDLE RIDGE DRIVE.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR.

AND CITY COUNCIL.

BECAUSE OF THE TIME, I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS NICE AND SWEET.

I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.

I FEEL THAT PHASE ONE HAS BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL.

SO PHASE TWO, I THINK WILL FOLLOW THAT.

AND IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T HURT TO HAVE SOME HIGHER WEALTH INDIVIDUALS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE VIN AND HARVEST HALL AND, AND ALL THE SHOPS AND RESTAURANTS ON MAIN STREET. SO I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. CORRESPONDENCE.

OH, YOU GOT I HAVE ONE MORE.

I'M SORRY. CLARENCE MUELLER, 3612 LAKEWOOD ROAD.

ARE WE GOING TO TALK SIDEWALKS? WE ARE. THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE HEADED?

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BUT ALSO, WE HAD THIS THEME ALL NIGHT TONIGHT AS WE'VE GONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT WE WE KEEP PUSHING THE DENSITY BY ONE HOUSE EVERY TIME TO TAKE AWAY FOR THINGS.

AND WHEN WE DO THIS AND WE HAVE GROWTH OF NOT TO GET INTO ALL THIS, BUT MICROMOBILITY WALKING, BIKING, SCOOTERS, ELECTRIFICATION OF THOSE THINGS.

YOU SEE THEM BUZZING UP AND DOWN MAIN STREET AND WE KEEP GIVING AWAY THAT SPACE TO SQUEEZE IN ONE MORE TOWNHOME OR CONDOMINIUM.

AND WE'RE GOING TO LIVE WITH THOSE PROBLEMS FOR 30, 40, 50 YEARS SO THAT SOMEBODY CAN MAKE ONE MORE DOLLAR ON A DEVELOPMENT.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, OUR LEGACY ON THOSE THINGS AND BUILD FOR THE FUTURE.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY CORRESPONDENCE? NO, YOUR HONOR. MR. CHAIRMAN, I NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CLOSE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? CLOSE THE MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

SO MOVED SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON THE AMENDMENTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE.

[9. Amendments to the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance No. 82-73 AM23-01 (Accessory Dwelling Units) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to proposed amendments and changes to the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance, No. 82-73, same being Appendix D of theCode of Ordinances as follows: to create and amend definitions in Section 12, Definitions; amend uses and use-specific standards in Section 13, “R-20”, Single- Family District; and create use-specific standards in Section 42, Supplementary District Regulations; and various amendments throughout the Zoning Ordinance relative to accessory dwelling units.]

20 3-01 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

ERICA MAROHNIC. YES.

THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IS IN RESPONSE TO RECENT FAILED LEGISLATION AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT WOULD HAVE RESTRICTED A CITY FROM ADOPTING OR ENFORCING REGULATIONS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT AN OWNER FROM BUILDING, SELLING OR RENTING AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, OR REQUIRE OWNER OCCUPANCY OF THE PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS HELD TWO WORKSHOPS, ONE ON AUGUST 1ST, THE OTHER ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, TO FULLY ADDRESS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN THE CITY, COUNCIL APPROVED A REQUEST TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING AT THEIR MEETING ON OCTOBER 17TH.

ADUS ARE THE RENAMED AND AMENDED SERVANTS QUARTERS IN THE R 20 SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THEY ARE NOT PROPOSED TO BE ALLOWED IN ANY OTHER RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS WITH THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT.

THE REGULATIONS PROPOSED ACCOUNT FOR THE LOCATION, DESIGN AND LIMITATIONS OF ADUS AND ARE PROPOSED TO BE PLACED IN SECTION 42 SUPPLEMENTARY DISTRICT REGULATIONS, WHERE ALL USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS ARE FOUND IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR BOTH PRIMARY AND ACCESSORY USES.

MINOR REVISIONS ARE FOUND THROUGHOUT THE ZONING ORDINANCE AS PART OF THIS TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WERE DESIRED BY THE COMMISSION TO REVISE THE WORD ACCESSORY AS IT APPLIES TO BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES, AND CHANGES IT IN FAVOR OF THE TERM SECONDARY.

SO ON THIS SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A COMPARISON TABLE AS FAR AS THE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA AND HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS UNDER THE CURRENT USE AND DEFINITION OF SERVANT'S QUARTERS, VERSUS WHAT IS PROPOSED FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.

AS A SUMMARY, IT'S PROPOSED ONLY IN THE R 20 DISTRICT TO ALLOW ONE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT PER LOT LIMITED TO A ONE BEDROOM DWELLING MAXIMUM 750FT² IN SIZE, LIMITED TO ONE STORY BUILDING A MAXIMUM OF 16FT IN HEIGHT.

MUST BE LOCATED IN THE REAR YARD, A MINIMUM OF 25FT FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE, AND 15FT FROM SIDE PROPERTY LINES AND TEN FEET BETWEEN BUILDINGS.

THE COMMISSION ALSO WORKED ON ESTABLISHING SOME ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT ARE LAID OUT IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS, AND SPECIFY THAT IT MUST BE SECURED TO A PERMANENT FOUNDATION ON THE GROUND THAT WAS TO PROHIBIT ANY TYPE OF OFFSITE MODULAR CONFIGURATION OR CONSTRUCTION THAT WOULD BE HAULED ON SITE.

ADDITIONALLY, THEY IDENTIFIED THAT AN ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE WOULD BE REQUIRED IF AN ADU WERE CONSTRUCTED IN ADDITION TO THE TWO PER THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNIT, THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE, BUT THAT NO ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAYS WOULD BE ALLOWED.

AND THEY ALSO CLARIFIED AT YOUR MEETING ON THE 17TH, THE COUNCIL DID SO.

THANK YOU FOR PROHIBITING RENTING OR SUBLETTING OF THE ADU SEPARATE FROM THE PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT ON THE LOT.

THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE RELATIVE TO THE ORDINANCE.

ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN? ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

NO, SIR. DO WE HAVE ANY WISHING TO SPEAK? YES, SIR, I HAVE TWO.

KIM JOHNSON, 3416 ROLLING HILLS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR TATE COUNCIL AND PNC.

MY NAME IS KYM JOHNSON.

NEXT YEAR I'LL HAVE LIVED IN GRAPEVINE FOR 40 YEARS AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE.

THE REASON WHY I'M HERE IS REALLY TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT CHANGING SOME OF THE TERMS THAT IS IN SOME OF THIS LANGUAGE, INCLUDING SERVANT QUARTERS.

BUT MOSTLY I'M HERE TO GIVE SOME CONCERNS WITH REGARDS TO OR FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SUPPORT YOUR AMENDED

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WE HAD TALKED ON OUR STREET ABOUT WHAT THIS MIGHT MEAN.

AND BASICALLY I THINK THERE'S ONLY TWO OF US ON OUR STREET THAT IS HERE BECAUSE IT WAS BASICALLY SUGGESTED THAT IT WAS JUST ABOUT MAYBE REMOVING THE TERMS OF SERVANT QUARTERS AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE IN THE FUTURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BED AND BREAKFAST IN SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD.

BUT REALLY, WHY I'M HERE IS BECAUSE JUST WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAD OUR NEIGHBORS COME AND GO, HOUSES REMOVED AND NEW HOUSES PUT IN THEIR PLACES.

WHEN WE MOVED IN AND BACK IN THE 80S, WE ACTUALLY HAD BARNS ON OUR STREET.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH ROLLING HILLS LANE, BUT WE'RE ABOUT THE LAST STREET IN SOUTHWEST GRAPEVINE WE CAN SMELL THE CORN FROM THE CORN FIELD.

SO THE WE DID HAVE BARNS THAT WERE USED FOR THEIR APPROPRIATE USES AT THE TIME.

SOME OF THEM HAVE SINCE BEEN CONVERTED.

WE HAVE ADDITIONAL GARAGES FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HOBBIES, SUCH AS COLLECTING CARS.

WE HAVE RECENTLY HAD A RESIDENT BUILD ADDITIONAL DWELLINGS ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT I WILL SAY, DO NOT CURRENTLY MEET THE STANDARDS THAT YOU HAVE NOW.

SO WHEN YOU GO TO AMEND AND PROVIDE CHANGES AND MEN USES AND USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS, LET'S MAKE SURE AS WE'RE ALLOWING AND APPROVING SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT ON OUR LARGER LOTS ARE 20, THAT THEY ARE INDEED STILL REMINDED THAT THIS IS A ARE 20 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, AND THAT THE PURPOSE OF THESE ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS WILL FOLLOW THE CITY'S ORDINANCES.

LATELY, THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN HAVING SOME ISSUES IN OUR QUIET LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD CALLED THE ROLLING HILLS ESTATES.

WE ARE BETWEEN MARSH BARBERRY AND BLUEBERRY.

I BELIEVE SOME ARE HERE FOR THAT REASON.

WE HAVE HAD HOUSES TORN DOWN, LARGER, MORE LOVELY PROPERTIES BUILT.

WE HAVE ALSO HAD PEOPLE CONVERT SOME OF THEIR BARNS.

WE STILL HAVE HORSES ON THE CORNER, BY THE WAY, AND PIGS AND CHICKENS NEXT DOOR, AND WE HAVE MILLION DOLLAR HOUSES ON OUR STREET NOW.

DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THAT.

THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS WHEN P AND Z AND THE INSPECTING FORCES COME IN AND APPROVE CERTAIN CONSTRUCTION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE USED, POSSIBLY THIS BUILDING FOR A HOBBY.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS? BECAUSE MAYBE THEY STARTED USING THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING AS A HOBBY LOCATION.

BUT THE NEXT THING WE KNOW, WE HAVE TRACTOR TRAILERS DRIVING UP OUR LANE.

BY THE WAY, IT'S CALLED ROLLING HILLS LANE.

I DO BELIEVE OUR STREET IS SIMPLY A ONE FOOT LARGER THAN MY DRIVEWAY.

IT'S A LANE, IT'S NOT A STREET AND IT'S NOT A ROAD.

AND THE REASON WHY I'M HERE TO TALK TONIGHT IS ABOUT THE APPROVAL OF A PARTICULAR DWELLING ON ALREADY CROWDED LOT IN OUR 20. THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT GOING ON ON YOUR LOT.

IF YOU'RE ALREADY PRETTY CROWDED AND HAVE EXISTING DWELLINGS.

AND THEN THE NEW DWELLING COMES IN.

ALL THE HOUSES AROUND ARE SINGLE STORY.

THE NEW DWELLING IS NOW TWO STORY.

I'VE RENAMED THAT DWELLING THAT THE CITY APPROVED THE WALMART DISTRIBUTION CENTER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

IT'S A TWO STOREY METAL CLAD BUILDING.

ALL THE HOUSES AROUND IT ARE SINGLE STOREY.

IT MAY HAVE BEEN A SHOP AT ONE TIME, BUT NOW WE HAVE TRACTOR TRAILERS COMING UP AND UNLOADING PALLETS.

OF MATERIAL.

TO BE ASSEMBLED, FABRICATED, AND THEN SHIPPED BACK OUT DOWN OUR LITTLE ROLLING HILLS LANE.

SO I ASK YOU WHEN YOU GO TO LOOK AT THIS CHANGES AMEND USES AND USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS. HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS.

WHAT IS YOUR PLAN P AND Z TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE DWELLINGS THAT ARE NOW BEING PERMITTED IN

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YES, SIR. THAT IS NOW RUNNING, YOU KNOW, A LANDSCAPING COMPANY OUT OF A DWELLING.

SO MY POINT IS, AS A RESIDENT OF 40 YEARS, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

SIR. A LOT OF CHOICES SOMETIMES WITH YOUR STATE GOVERNOR, AND THE LEGISLATURE WANTS TO TAKE ALL THE RIGHTS AWAY FROM CITIES. SO THEY'RE DICTATING TO SOME EXTENT WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

IT'S NOT ALL OUR CHOICE ANYMORE.

HE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ALL THE CITIES RIGHTS AWAY, AND HE'S DOING A GOOD JOB OF DOING IT.

THANK YOU, THOUGH, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHTY. WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER.

WE HAVE ONE MORE, ONE MORE.

ERIC BOEKBINDER THREE FOUR, TWO ROLLING HILLS LANE ESTATE.

AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING.

I'M ERIC BOOKBINDER. I LIVE AT 3412 ROLLING HILLS LANE IN GRAPEVINE.

AND TO PREFACE THIS A LITTLE BIT, I LIVED IN COLLIERVILLE AND A HOUSE THAT BACKED UP AGAINST HODGES AUTOMOTIVE.

SO, LIKE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE TERM IS.

WE GOT SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING THE NOISE AND ALL THAT STUFF, SO WE MOVED TO ROLLING HILLS LANE.

IT'S A GEM THAT I KNOW.

IT'S SUPER HIGH DEMAND POPULAR.

YOU GET NEIGHBORS ASKING IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN SELLING, AND WE DID THAT TO GET AWAY FROM THAT INDUSTRIAL FEELING.

AND WE DO SUPPORT THE THE NEW RULES.

BUT AGAIN, LIKE WHAT KIM MENTIONED, WE'RE HOPING FOR BETTER ENFORCEMENT OF THAT.

THE NEIGHBOR WHO MOVED IN THAT RUNS A LANDSCAPING BUSINESS OUT OF HIS BACKYARD LIVES NEXT TO US.

HE HAS 4 OR 5 TRAILERS, 4 OR 5 TRUCKS THAT HE KEPT BACK THERE.

AT THE TIME. IT WAS JUST A CHAIN LINK FENCE, AND SO HIS EMPLOYEES WERE HANGING OUT RIGHT AGAINST THAT FENCE, STARING IN OUR YARD.

I HAVE A TWO YOUNG KIDS, A FIVE YEAR OLD AND A SEVEN YEAR OLD AND MADE US VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.

THEY BUILT THE FENCE.

THEY CLAIM THAT THEY MOVED ON TO A DIFFERENT AREA OR STORING SOME OF IT, BUT I STILL I WORK FROM HOME.

I'M STARING OUT THE FRONT YARD ALL DAY.

I STILL SEE THEIR TRACTORS AND TRAILERS GOING THERE, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 TIMES A DAY.

I CALLED THE CODE ENFORCEMENT I GOT.

I'M REALLY NOT SURE WHETHER OR NOT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS LEGAL, BECAUSE I HAD TO FOLLOW UP 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT TIMES, DIDN'T GET ANY GOOD RESPONSES.

AND I KNOW GRAPEVINE IS REALLY GOOD ABOUT ENFORCING CODES.

I'M GETTING A POOL BUILT IN.

EVERY LITTLE THING THEY'RE DOING WRONG.

THEY'RE GETTING CAUGHT, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHY IS THAT ALLOWED? YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE ALLOWING THAT SORT OF THING TO HAPPEN? HAVING PEOPLE RUNNING BUSINESSES, DOING FABRICATION OUT IN THEIR BACKYARD WHEN IT'S CLEARLY A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

SO AGAIN, I APPROVE THIS.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IT HAPPEN.

BUT AGAIN, WE'D LIKE FURTHER ENFORCEMENT.

SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSALS FOR.

I'VE ALREADY SAID THAT I'M FOR IT.

I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ENFORCEMENT STEP UP.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT LIMITATIONS THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN DO, BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT A COMFORTABLE FEELING TO HAVE NEIGHBORS RUNNING BUSINESSES IN YOUR BACK YARD WHEN YOU'RE NOT NEAR ANYWHERE ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE OKAY? OH. I'M SORRY. YES, SIR.

THERE'S ONE. THERE'S ONE MORE.

JUST BRIEFLY, I HAD WRITTEN DOWN THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION, PLEASE, BEFORE THEY WALK OUT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR TATE AND COUNCIL, I JUST WANT TO SPEAK IN SLIGHT OPPOSITION TO THIS.

ONLY BECAUSE I PURCHASED MY HOUSE WITH ALL WITH AN EXISTING R 20 ZONING.

AND I APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR FOR CHANGE.

BUT MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU'VE SAID TONIGHT, IF WHAT IS WORKING HAS WORKED AND 90% OF THE HOUSES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THIS ZONING ALREADY HAVE ADUS BUILT ABOVE THE GARAGES IN SOME FORM OR CAPACITY THAT AREN'T BEING AREN'T BEING LOOKED AT.

I JUST DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR AN ADDITIONAL SETBACK REQUIREMENT AND ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE WITH REGARD TO WHAT I CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH WITH WITH MY LARGE LOT THAT I PURCHASED.

I'VE HEARD SEVERAL COMMENTS COMMENTS TONIGHT ABOUT FITTING 20 HOUSES ON THE SIDE OF ON THE SIZE OF THE LAND THAT I PURCHASED FOR MY ONE HOUSE.

SO I HAVE AGING MOTHER IN LAW.

I HAVE AN AGING MOTHER IN LAW, AN AGING PARENTS.

I INTEND TO HAVE THEM LIVE WITH ME IN SOME CAPACITY, BUT NOT IN MY HOUSE.

AND I DON'T WANT IT CONNECTED TO MY HOUSE.

AND I REALLY DON'T WANT IT AS CLOSE AS TO THE FAR FENCE AS I CAN GET IT.

BUT I BOUGHT MY HOUSE AND THE LAND SO THAT I CAN INTEND TO USE IT AS NEEDED, WITH THE EXISTING ZONING REGULATIONS IN HAND.

SO I'M ALL FOR HAVING THE CLARIFICATION, BUT I DO NOT FEEL WE NEED ADDITIONAL SETBACK REQUIREMENTS OR ANY ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE AROUND WHAT YOU WOULD PROHIBIT ME TO DO WITH THAT.

[03:55:04]

SO I APPRECIATE THE TIME, BUT I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THIS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVED TO CLOSE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? CLOSED A MOTION. MOVED TO SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

PUBLIC HEARINGS OPEN ON THE FINAL PLATS.

[10. Final Plat of Lots 1 and 2, Block 1, Comparin and Gay Addition – City Council and Planning Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Neal Cooper requesting to replat Lot 4, Block 37, Original Town of Grapevine. The subject property is located at 404 and 408 East Texas Street and is current zoned “R-7.5”, Single Family Residential District.]

MR. JOHN ROBERTSON.

GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THE PROPERTY IS ADDRESSED AS 404 AND 408 EAST TEXAS STREET.

IT'S GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TEXAS STREET BETWEEN SMITH AND DOOLEY STREETS.

SHOULD HAVE AN EXHIBIT POP UP SOON.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A PLAT TWO LOTS FROM AN ORIGINAL LOT THAT EXISTS IN THE ORIGINAL TOWN OF GRAPEVINE THAT WAS PLATTED IN 1930.

SORRY, 1913.

EACH LOT IS JUST A LITTLE OVER 12,000FT².

THERE ARE EXISTING HOMES THAT SIT ON BOTH PROPOSED LOT.

THE PURPOSES OF THIS APPLICATION IS A PLAT.

TWO LOTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY SUBDIVIDED BY DEED.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R7 FIVE.

THESE TWO LOTS REQUESTED VARIANCE FROM THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS TO ALLOW THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES TO REMAIN AS DEVELOPED.

WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 62.5FT INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED 65FT.

THESE TWO CASES WERE APPROVED BY THE BCA ON NOVEMBER 7TH AS ITEMS BCA 2316 AND 2317, WITH THESE VARIANCES ALLOWED MEET ZONING REQUIREMENTS. WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRMAN.

QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. JOHN, DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? NO, YOUR HONOR. ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. POSITION CLOSED.

A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

MOVE TO CLOSE. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

THAT COMPLETES THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION IS GOING TO RECONVENE IN THE MEETING ROOM TO THE RIGHT.

THE COUNCIL WILL REMAIN IN SESSION HERE, AND WE'LL CONSIDER ITS AGENDA.

YEAH. AND THEN YOU SAY, OKAY, I JUST WANT TO.

YES. SIR.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

YEAH. HE'S WITH. I.

REAL GOOD AT THAT. IT'S BEEN THE MOST UNUSUAL NIGHT ALL THE YEARS I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE.

WOULDN'T YOU AGREE? EVEN WITH YOU.

I NEVER HAD A PACKET THIS THICK UNLESS IT WAS A SEPARATE BINDER FOR SOME OTHER.

YEAH. I ASSUME THERE'S A BUNCH OF THEM OUTSIDE.

ALL THE CANDY. YOU KNOW THE ROUTINE.

HE DOES THE REST OF HIS TURKEY.

YOU DESERVE A BIG STEAK AFTER ALL THIS.

SO WE HAVE. OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS?

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

ALL RIGHT. CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE NOT SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA.

A PERSON NOT SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS OR ON ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEM BY COMPLETING THE CITIZENS APPEARANCE REQUESTS WITH THE CITY SECRETARY, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, EITHER BEFORE OR DURING THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF THE ITEM.

UPON BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR UPON THE CONSENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CITIZENS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT, CITY COUNCIL IS RESTRICTED AND DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON CITIZEN COMMENTS.

WOULD YOU MAKE THEM? SIR HANS SCHREIER 325 RIDGE ROAD.

FIRST, I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN SLECHTA FOR GETTING IN TOUCH WITH ME AFTER THE LAST TIME I WAS UP HERE.

WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION AND ONE OF THE THINGS I TOLD HIM WHEN I TOLD HIM, I SAID THE REASON I COME UP AND TALK IS A BUNCH IS ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.

THAT I SAID IS I WAS RAISED IN A RURAL BACKGROUND, AND ONE OF THE GREATEST ORGANIZATIONS WE HAD WAS THE FOUR-H CLUB.

AND THE MOTTO OF THE FOUR-H CLUB IS TO MAKE THE BEST BETTER.

WHILE I ENJOY THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WHEN YOU WALK AROUND EVERY DAY, YOU SEE SOME THINGS.

YOU HAVE SOME PICTURES IN FRONT OF YOU THAT I NOTICED.

THERE'S ONE. THERE'S A POWER LIGHT POLE RIGHT THERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF MAIN AND DALLAS ROAD, AND THE COVER IS MISSING

[04:00:11]

I'VE SEEN SEVERAL TIMES IN.

MATTER OF FACT, LAST NIGHT WHEN I WAS WALKING AROUND TO FROM WHERE WE PARKED TO GET UP TO MAIN STREET, THERE WERE CHILDREN AND ONE PARENT SAID, OH, DON'T GRAB THOSE WIRES.

AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE PICTURES, THEY'RE FANCY COLORED WIRES AND KIDS ARE PROBABLY ENTICED TO GRAB THEM AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO PUT A COVER BACK ON THAT THING.

IT'S A SAFETY THING.

THE OTHER THING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE PICTURES THERE IS RIGHT THERE AT NASH FARMS. AND WHEN WE HAVE A BIG RAIN, A LOT OF THE DIRT THAT COMES RIGHT OFF OF THE FARM COVERS THAT SIDEWALK.

THE PICTURES AREN'T REAL CLEAR, BUT THERE'S BICYCLE TRACKS THERE, AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THEM THAT IF YOU STAND RIGHT THERE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE SOMEBODY WIPED OUT HIT THEIR KNEES OR THEIR BACKSIDE, AND THERE'S HANDPRINTS IN THE DIRT.

IF SOMEBODY GETS REALLY HURT, THAT'S CITY PROPERTY.

I MEAN, NASH, IT COMES RIGHT OFF THERE.

IT'S THE SIDEWALK OUTSIDE THERE.

MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, BE A LITTLE MORE ATTENTIVE AND CLEAN UP THAT DIRT SO THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T SLIP AND FALL.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE OF THAT KIND OF A PREVENTIVE MEDICINE MAINTENANCE KIND OF THING.

AND THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO SAY BEFORE I SIT DOWN IS.

THE VETERANS PARADE THAT WE JUST HAD SAD.

THE WORST ONE WE'VE HAD IN MANY YEARS.

IT WAS THE SMALLEST ONE WE'VE HAD WHEN WE LINED UP ON BARTON STREET TO GET READY.

THE GROUP THAT I WAS WITH, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE PREPARATION STAGING AREA, ALMOST DOWN TO BALL STREET, AND THE LADY IN THE GOLF CART SAYS, OH, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY THIS YEAR.

YOU CAN COME WAY UP TO THE FRONT OF THE 44 SLOTS OPEN, THERE WERE 17.

IT'S KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED.

WHY DID THE VETERANS PARADE GET? NOT LOOKED AT AS LET'S.

THERE WERE NO BANDS THIS YEAR.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY BANDS. I DIDN'T SEE ANY KIDS.

THE BOY SCOUTS, THE CUB SCOUTS.

IT WAS KIND OF SAD.

SO MAYBE WHOEVER WAS IN CHARGE OF THAT, MAYBE WE CAN DO BETTER FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO THESE ARE JUST SOME ITEMS THAT IS PUMPED PUBLIC VISIBILITY, PUBLIC SCENE, SOME SAFETY THINGS AND HOPE THEY CAN GET TAKEN CARE OF.

THANK YOU. I COULD DO.

THIS IS. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

MAYBE. AND THAT COMPLETES CITIZEN REQUESTS.

ITEM 12. WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING.

[12. Emergency Management Coordinator to discuss changes to the City’s mass notification system.]

NO. ALL RIGHT.

ITEM 13.

[13. Consider Ordinance No. 2023-081 to amend the Grapevine Code of Ordinances, Chapter adopting and amending to the 2021 International Building Code, the 2021 International Residential Code, the 2021 International Mechanical Code, the 2021 International Plumbing Code, the 2021 International Fuel Gas Code, and the 2020 National Electric Code, adopting by reference the 2018 International Swimming Pool and Spa Code as adopted by the State of Texas, the City of Grapevine regional amendments, and take any other necessary action.]

LARRY GRAY. I JUST BETTER NOT BE.

AS LONG AS LAST TIME.

I'VE ONLY GOT FOUR SLIDES.

I'VE ONLY GOT FOUR SLIDES. I REALLY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TALK ABOUT ANY OF IT.

DOWN FROM 300.

TONIGHT WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO ADOPT THE 2021 CODES.

THAT INCLUDES THE BUILDING CODE, THE RESIDENTIAL CODE, THE PLUMBING CODE, THE FUEL GAS CODE, THE MECHANICAL CODE, THE 2020 NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE, AND THE 2018 INTERNATIONAL SWIMMING POOL AND SPA CODE BY REFERENCE.

THERE'S ALSO IN THE AMENDMENTS THE THE PROPOSED INCREASE IN BUILDING PERMIT FEES.

THE RED BAR SHOWS THE EXISTING PERMIT FEES AND THE FEES OF OUR NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS.

THE PURPLE BAR SHOWS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, AND IT IS AT THE 50TH PERCENTILE.

AND THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON A $3 MILLION PROJECT VALUE.

THERE WILL NOT BE ANY CHANGES TO RESIDENTIAL FEES.

AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU GUYS FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

THE INCREASING FEES WAS JUST COMMERCIAL, NOT RESIDENTIAL, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

WE'RE JUST RE ADOPTING THE EXISTING FEES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL.

I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS.

YOU WERE VERY THOROUGH LAST MEETING WHEN YOU PRESENTED.

THANK YOU. SECOND. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

CONSIDERATION IS IN ORDER.

I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. CHRIS.

SECONDED. DISCUSSION.

NO, SIR. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 14.

[14. Consider Resolution No. 2023-021 to cast votes on behalf of the City for the Tarrant Appraisal District Board of Directors, take any other necessary action.]

WE HAVE 28 VOTES.

MR.. MR..

RUMBELOW, DO YOU HAVE THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION?

[04:05:03]

MR.. DIOTTE, WHO'S AN EXISTING TAD BOARD MEMBER, IN FACT, IN THE LAST CYCLE OF BOARD APPOINTMENTS TO THE TAD BOARD, ALL THE THE VOTES FOR GRAPEVINE WERE CAST FOR MR. DIOTTE. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU DO THE SAME AGAIN THIS TIME.

I WOULD MOVE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

I THINK HE DOES A GOOD JOB AND REPRESENTS US WELL.

I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE SUBURBAN REPRESENTATION RATHER THAN DOMINATED BY FORT WORTH.

MEMBERS. BUT IT'S ALL SECOND.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEMS 15 THROUGH 33 ARE NOT SCHEDULED FOR ANY COUNCIL DEBATE TONIGHT.

ANNIE GUEST PRESIDENT CAN REQUEST ANY ITEM BE REMOVED FOR FURTHER DEBATE AT THIS TIME.

DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS? AND ITEMS 15 THROUGH 33 IS A CONSENT.

THE MOTION IS IN ORDER.

THE APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 15 THROUGH 33.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WHAT HAPPENED? CONSIDERING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

ITEM 34, Z 2303 WAS DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

[34. Zoning Change Application Z23-03 (Grapevine Springs) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-071, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

I'LL DENY WITH PREJUDICE.

WITH A MOTION TO DENY WITH PREJUDICE.

WITHOUT PREJUDICE MEANS THEY CAN COME BACK.

I DON'T THINK THEY CAN COME BACK UNDER THIS CURRENT CASE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

THEY CAN COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL.

THEY CAN COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL, THOUGH, RIGHT? UNDER R7 FIVE, AGAIN, YOU GUYS DO WHAT YOU WANT.

THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.

YOU GUYS DO WHAT YOU WANT. COME BACK UNDER AR 20.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS MORE OF A QUESTION.

UNDER 12 FIVE.

OR I'LL SECOND DARLENE'S MOTION, WHICH IS WHAT TO DENY WITH PREJUDICE A REGULAR DENIAL.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT MEANS THEY CAN'T COME BACK FOR FOR A YEAR.

FOR A YEAR UNDER THIS PARTICULAR ZONING, THIS PARTICULAR ZONING, THEY CAN CHANGE IT AND THEY CAN WORK AND MODIFY IT AND COME BACK, BUT THEY CAN'T COME BACK UNDER THIS ZONING WITH AR FIVE AND THE AR SEVEN FIVE.

I THINK IT'S BEST FOR THEM TO KNOW, I THINK AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT OUR INTENT IS TO WE JUST WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK IN LESS THAN A YEAR IF HE CHANGES THE PROPOSAL.

YEAH. BUT HE CAN'T CHANGE IT OUT OF R7 FIVE AND AR FIVE I UNDERSTAND.

SO I'M GOING TO THAT'S MY MOTION.

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAY, BUT MY MOTION IS TO A REGULAR DENIAL.

ALL RIGHT I DON'T WANT THE NEIGHBORS TO FEEL LIKE I JUST THINK IT'S THE RIGHT DECISION.

YEAH. AND CHRIS SECONDED.

SO YOU CAN VOTE FOR IT, BUT HE CAN COME BACK IF IT'S.

WE HAVE A WE HAVE A SECOND.

YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THE MOTION.

YEAH. I THINK THAT DUFF'S JUST ASKING FOR CLARITY.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IF IT'S CHANGED.

HE CAN COME BACK IN LESS THAN A YEAR.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

YEAH. MATTHEW CAN CLARIFY IF YOU'D LIKE HIM TO.

YES HE CAN. THAT'S FINE. ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M NOT TRYING TO KILL IT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO AN ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

ADAM, 35.

[35. Planned Development Overlay PD23-02 (Grapevine Springs) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-072, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

SIX. OH YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S GOT TO BE JUST LIKE DARLENE SAID FOR THE LAST ONE.

THAT'S THE OVERLAY. I'LL MOVE FOR DENIAL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

OUT ON 36.

[36. Final Plat for Lots 1-32, 33X, Block 1, Grapevine Springs and Lot 1R, Block 1R, Grapevine Office Park – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission, and take any necessary action.]

MOVE FOR DENIAL. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? ITEM 37.

[37. Conditional Use Permit CU23-21 (Mohler MMA) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-087, first reading, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

21 WAS APPROVED.

SIX ZERO. I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? ITEM 38.

[38. Conditional Use Permit CU23-30 (House of Shine) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-088, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

FIVE ONE.

I'LL MOVE TO ACCEPT THE PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

ADAM 39 HL 2302 WAS DENIED FIVE ONE.

[39. Historic Landmark District HL23-02 (House of Shine) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-089, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.

THIS IS JUST LANDMARKING THE THE STRUCTURE THERE, ISN'T IT? THE APPROVAL WAS THE STRUCTURE TO.

WELL, OKAY.

THAT'S. THAT'S WHAT IF IT'S NOT, THEN YOU'RE OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, I'LL GET IT NOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

[04:10:04]

I'M CONFUSED ON THIS.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO ME.

WELL, WE DENIED THE ZONING AND WE DENIED THE HISTORICAL OVERLAY BECAUSE OUR UNDERSTANDING WAS IT INCLUDED THE STRUCTURE WHICH WAS PLANNED.

WELL, IF THEY COME BACK WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IT COULD BE A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE.

WE HAVEN'T APPROVED THE STRUCTURE.

HAVE TO. WELL, THERE'S NO REASON TO LANDMARK IT RIGHT NOW.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT. YEAH, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE OPPOSED TO THE LANDMARK.

IT'S JUST FOR WHAT'S PROPOSED.

WE ASK DAVID TO COME UP HERE.

KLIMPEN. HE'S RAISING HIS HAND.

DON'T TALK TOO LONG, DAVID.

OKAY. THE HL IS JUST BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE.

IT'S A CONDITION IN THE HISTORIC TOWNSHIP THAT YOU WILL NEED TO PREPARE A LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR THAT IF YOU WANT TO TEAR IT DOWN.

WE HAVE A SEPARATE CA, A SEPARATE CASE FOR APPROVAL OF THAT STRUCTURE.

THE NEW STRUCTURE. YES, AND HPC APPROVED THAT.

BUT BACK TO THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

WE ALWAYS LIKE TO HAVE THE PROPERTY'S LANDMARK.

IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T TIE IT TO THE STRUCTURE.

SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'D LIKE US TO LANDMARK IT? YES. OKAY. DOES IT, DOES IT DOES IT MEET THE STRUCTURE IS A SEPARATE CA THAT WE WE APPROVED A SEPARATE CA FOR THE STRUCTURE.

I CAN TEAR DOWN THAT PRECIOUS LITTLE RED HOUSE AND YOU ALL ARE ALL RIGHT WITH THAT? NO, NO, NO, THE MAIN.

THE MAIN HOUSE. NOT THE RED BARN.

THE OTHER HOUSE. AND SO THE BUILDING THAT COULD BE BUILT, THAT CAN BE BUILT ALL THE WAY UP TO CHURCH, OR IS THAT THE WHOLE TRACK THAT NOT.

NO, JUST THE HOUSE.

JUST THE HOUSE. RIGHT.

AND IF IF YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THEM TO DO THE PROJECT, THEY CAN'T EVER GET A PERMIT TO BUILD THAT BUILDING THAT WAS APPROVED ON THE CA.

BUT YOU WANT THE LANDMARK.

YES. THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO COME BEFORE HPC FOR THE NEXT.

OKAY. GO FOR IT.

UNDERSTOOD. BECAUSE THAT'S BECAUSE P AND Z DENIED IT.

THEN WHY WOULD P AND Z DENY IT? BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT.

THE CLARITY WASN'T THERE THAT IT'S TWO SEPARATE CASES FOR THE THE BUILDING IS SEPARATE FROM GOING TO COME BACK WITH CLARIFICATION.

OKAY. LET'S TALK TO MR. CHAIRMAN ABOUT THIS. YES.

I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION IS DOES THE APPLICANT WANT A LANDMARK IF THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE ZONING? I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE EVEN CONSIDERED THE STRUCTURE IF THAT WASN'T PART OF THE CASE.

YEAH, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT BECAUSE.

BECAUSE OF THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION IS SOMETHING THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THEM TO PURSUE.

RIGHT? RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND I MOVE THAT HL 2302 BE APPROVED.

WELL, IS THE APPLICANT STILL WANTING IT? WELL HE'S GOT THE HL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW BUILDING OR TEARING IT DOWN.

NO, BUT IT HAS TO DO. BUT THE APPLICANT HAS TO WANT THE HL.

YES. AND THEY WANTED THE HL THINKING THEY WERE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE HL CAREER DOWN THE OLD BUILDING.

YEAH. CORRECT. BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS IS IT APPROPRIATE US TO FOLLOW THE SUPPORT THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION ON THIS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, I MY UNDERSTANDING IS I THINK WE SHOULD THE H THE L WE ALWAYS LIKE TO HAVE THAT.

AND THEY HAVE OFFERED IT.

YEAH, BUT I THINK THEY OFFERED IT AS A CONDITION OF BEING ABLE TO.

YEAH, THEY OFFERED IT. SO I'M TELLING YOU THE FACTS.

YES. I WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

YEAH. I SUPPORT THE Z'S DECISION TO DENY THIS.

LET'S LET THE APPLICANT DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, I AGREE.

I'LL. SO DO YOU HAVE A IS THERE A MOTION TO SHARRON? YOU WANT TO MAKE A NEW MOTION? NO I DON'T, I'LL MOVE TO ACCEPT NZ'S RECOMMENDATION TO DENY.

I'LL SECOND. WELL, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A SUPERMAJORITY, RIGHT? NO, I'M AGREEING WITH THEM.

WE'RE AGREEING WITH THE CONCURRENCE.

NO WE DO. NO, SIR.

MAYOR, THAT'S A CONCURRENCE TO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.

WE'RE SUPPORTING THE P AND Z.

WE'RE SUPPORTING THE P AND Z WITH THEM, SO IT'S OKAY.

P AND Z WANTED TO.

THE MOTION IS TO SUPPORT THE.

YES, SIR. YES. YES.

AND IN DOING SO, DENY.

OKAY. YES, SIR. NO THAT'S OKAY.

MOTION TO APPROVE. IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM 540.

SEE YOU 2331.

WE ALREADY DID. TARA NEEDS SOMETHING.

SORRY. I'M SORRY. MATTHEW.

GO, MATTHEW. THERE WAS NO VOTE TAKEN.

YEAH, WE NEED TO VOTE.

WE DID VOTE. WE DID VOTE.

WE DID. WE DID. IT WAS JUST A LITTLE SLOPPY.

ALL RIGHT, YOU WANT TO. YOU WANT US TO VOTE AGAIN? NOPE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ALL OPPOSED?

[40. Conditional Use Permit CU23-31 (Big Daddy’s Ship Store) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-90, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

2331 WAS APPROVED.

SIX ZERO. I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

[41. Planned Development Overlay PD23-04 (The Reserve at Bear Creek) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-91, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

[04:15:02]

PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY PD 2304 RESERVE AT BEAR CREEK WAS DENIED SIX ZERO WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

OKAY. WHY? WE WANT THEM TO LEAVE IT LIKE IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED, BUT THAT'S EXPIRED, SO THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK.

SO WE WANTED TO, NOT WITHOUT PREJUDICE SO THEY COULD COME BACK.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S FAIR.

I'LL MOVE TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

[42. Final Plat of Lots 5-R, 6X-R, 6-R-1, 6-R-2 and 7-R, The Reserve at Bear Creek – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission, and take any necessary action.]

I'LL MOVE TO DENY SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

[43. Transit District Overlay TDO23-01 (Nash and Berry Townhomes) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-92, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

BE DENIED. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES 44.

[44. Final Plat of Lots 1-19, 20X, Block 2-R, Nash and Berry Addition – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission, and take any necessary action.]

FINAL PLAT.

NASH BERRY WAS DENIED SIX ZERO.

I'LL MOVE FOR DENIAL.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

[45. Transit District Overlay TDO23-02 (Grapevine Brownstones, Phase II) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-93, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

TRANSIT DISTRICT OVERLAY 2302.

THIS IS THE GRAPEVINE. BROWNSTONE WAS DENIED SIX ZERO WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

OKAY. WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING? WE WANT HIM TO COME BACK WITH SOME MORE GREEN SPACE AND SOME BETTER PARKING.

AND MAYBE SOME MORE SIDEWALKS.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.

I MEAN, THEY WANT TO WORK. THEY WANT TO WORK WITH US, AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM.

SO I'LL.

I'M GLAD YOU CAME BACK WITHOUT PREJUDICE, BECAUSE THAT WAY HE CAN MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS.

STILL COME UNDER THE SAME ZONING.

OKAY, I'LL RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON P AND Z.

I'LL RECOMMEND DENIAL BASED WITHOUT PREJUDICE BASED ON P AND Z'S RECOMMENDATION.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

[46. Final Plat of Lot 2, Block 1, Hasten Addition – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission, and take any necessary action.]

SOMEONE ELSE MAKE A MOTION TO BE DENIED.

GO TO THE FLAT. BE DENIED.

I'M TIRED. 46.

WE HAVE A MOTION. SAY THAT AGAIN.

DENIED. THE PLAT WAS DENIED SINCE WE DIDN'T APPROVE THE ZONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? OH, SORRY.

I'M SORRY. ITEM 47.

[47. Amendments to the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance No. 82-73 AM23-01 (Accessory Dwelling Units) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-094, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]

ALL RIGHT. AMENDMENT B APPROVED SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

[48. Final Plat of Lots 1 and 2, Block 1, Comparin and Gay Addition – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission, and take any necessary action.]

MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE STATEMENT OF FINDINGS AND THE FINAL PLAT OF LOTS ONE AND TWO.

BLOCK ONE COMPARING AND GAY EDITION.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

THAT COMPLETES THE AGENDA.

LISA GOT A MOTION TO ADJOURN IS IN ORDER.

SO MOVED. SHARRON.

ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED.

COUNCIL STANDS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.