4. Conditional Use Permit CU23-28 (Wash Your Stuff) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Islam Shahin requesting conditional use permit to amend the previously approved site plan CU21-27 (Ordinance No. 2022-012) to allow for the development of a car wash facility. This request is specifically to add an ice vending machine to the northeast corner of the property adjacent to Ira E. Woods Avenue and for the addition of a shade structure to the existing dog wash area adjacent to the south car wash building elevation. The subject property is located at 2201 Ira E. Woods Avenue and is currently zoned “CC”, Community Commercial District.

[4. Conditional Use Permit CU23-28 (Wash Your Stuff) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Islam Shahin requesting conditional use permit to amend the previously approved site plan CU21-27 (Ordinance No. 2022-012) to allow for the development of a car wash facility. This request is specifically to add an ice vending machine to the northeast corner of the property adjacent to Ira E. Woods Avenue and for the addition of a shade structure to the existing dog wash area adjacent to the south car wash building elevation. The subject property is located at 2201 Ira E. Woods Avenue and is currently zoned “CC”, Community Commercial District.]

THE BE THAT WILL DECLARE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE WILL ASK THE CITY STAFF TO ANNOUNCE REQUESTS THAT'S BEEN MADE, WILL GIVE THE APPLICANT A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.

IF ANY GUESTS PRESENT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE APPLICATION YOU NEED TO REGISTER WITH MISS TARA BROOKS, OUR CITY SECRETARY.

[00:05:01]

SHE WILL CALL ON YOU IN THE ORDER THAT YOU HAVE REGISTERED.

AFTER THAT IS TAKEN, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSE.

ULTIMATELY, THE PLAN ZONING COMMISSION WAS SEPARATE IN A SEPARATE MEETING AND DISCUSS THE MERITS OF THE APPLICATION, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL.

DUAL WILL HEAR THOSE LATER TONIGHT.

AFTER WHICH TIMES THE COUNCIL WILL ALSO CONSIDER IT'S PUBLISHED AGENDA.

WE'LL BEGIN BY OPENING A PUBLIC HEARING ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, CU233-28.

>> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

THIS REQUESTS FOR WASHER STUFF IS TO AMEND THEIR PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN OF CONDITIONAL USE 2127, WHICH WAS TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SELF-SERVICE CAR WASH FACILITY.

THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS TO SPECIFICALLY ADD AN ICE VENDING MACHINE TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THEIR IRA.

E WOODS AVENUE, AND FOR THE ADDITION OF A SHADE STRUCTURE TO THE EXISTING DOG WASH AREA ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH BUILDING ELEVATION.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PRESENTLY ZONE CC OR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, AND AS AN OPERATING SELF-SERVICE CAR WASH.

THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO ADD A 45 SQUARE FOOT ICE VENDING MACHINE LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE.

IT WILL BE ENCASED BY A 208 SQUARE FOOT ENCLOSURE, WHICH WILL BE 10 FEET TALL AND HAVE MASONRY MATERIALS.

ABOVE IT WILL BE A 13 FOOT TALL SALE SHADE TO PROTECT IT FROM THE ELEMENTS SUCH AS HAIL, RAIN, AND SNOW.

THE APPLICANT ALSO INTENDS TO ADD AN 11 FOOT TALL 747 SQUARE FOOT SALE SHADE ATOP THE EXISTING OPEN SPACE TO THE REAR YARD ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING DOG WASH AREA AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.

THE SUBJECT SITE HAS SHARED ACCESS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE, WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO REMAIN AND PROVIDES ACCESS TO IRA.

E. WOODS AVENUE.

ON THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN YOU'LL SEE THE EXISTING PATH OF TRAVEL FROM IRA.

E. WOODS AROUND THE CAR WASH FACILITIES.

THERE IS A TWO WAY DIRECTIONAL TRAVEL ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED ICE VENDING MACHINE AT THAT NORTHEAST CORNER.

WHAT OTHER CHANGES ARE PROPOSED TO THE SITE PLAN FOR ACCESS, SIGNAGE, OR ANY OTHER FACTORS ON-SITE.

THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, MR. ISLAM SHAHEEN, IS HERE THIS EVENING.

HE'S PREPARED A PRESENTATION AND IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL AND COMMISSION MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> HELLO. GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE VISITED OUR LOCATION, IT'S THE WASH YOUR STUFF IN GRAPEVINE.

WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION IN KELLER.

WE ARE A SELF-SERVICE CAR WASH. WE ALSO HAVE TOUCH BAY FACILITY FOR AUTOMATIC WASHING AS WELL.

WE ALSO ARE DOG WASH OR PET WASH, AND A PARK.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF OUR CURRENT FACILITY RIGHT NOW.

YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE THERE AND NOT JUST SUMMARY SLIDES.

IT WAS TAKEN INTO WINTER WHEN THE GRASS WAS THERE.

THAT'S THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND CORNER FOR THE GRASS.

BUT ESSENTIALLY, THE PROPOSALS ARE ACCURATE, WHICH WAS DESCRIBED ESSENTIALLY WE'RE ADDING TWO STRUCTURES.

ONE OF THEM IS IN THE NORTHEAST PROPERTY AND THAT IS FOR AN ICE SLASH VENDING MACHINE ENCLOSURE WITH A SAIL SHADE.

ONE THING ABOUT THE SAIL SHADE, MAYBE I SHOULD GO BACK AN ADDITIONAL SLIDE, IT DOESN'T REALLY SHOW IT IN THIS PICTURE HERE, BUT THE ENTIRE FACILITY HAS A BUNCH OF SAIL SHADES.

YOU CAN SEE IN THE LOWER CORNER A BLUE-COLORED CANOPY THAT COVERS THE CHANGE MACHINES.

IT BLENDS IN WITH THE FACADE AND THE DECORATION OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

OUR VACUUM AREAS ARE ALL SAIL SHADES.

OUR DOG WASHING AREAS ARE ALL SAIL SHADES.

THEN THE VENDING AREA WILL ALSO BE A SAIL SHADE AS WELL.

SAME COLOR, SAME SIMILAR MATERIAL.

THEN THE REAR STRUCTURE, WHICH IS IN THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, IS ALSO GOING TO BE THE SAME COLOR, BLUE SAIL SHADE.

THAT'S REALLY ONLY TO PROVIDE SHADE WITH THE TEXAS SUN TO OUR DOG PARK CUSTOMERS.

AS THEY'RE RUNNING AROUND WITH THEIR PETS,

[00:10:02]

THERE WILL BE A LARGE AREA THAT THEY CAN CONGLOMERATE AND TALK OR COOL OFF IN THE SUMMER.

THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS IN THE PRIOR MEETING THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AS FAR AS BIDIRECTIONAL FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

THE SPACE DOES ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE DISTANCE, I DON'T THINK THE POINTER WILL WORK ON THIS SCREEN.

BUT FROM THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING TO THE EDGE OF THE ENCLOSURE STRUCTURE IS ABOUT 29 FEET.

THERE'S A BIG PORTION OF OUR CUSTOMER BASE THAT ACTUALLY PULL TRAILERS AND HAVE RVS, AND CAMPERS, AND THEY WASH THEIR VEHICLES IN OUR BASE, ESPECIALLY BAY 1 AND 2, WHICH IS ABOUT 14 FEET IN HEIGHT.

THEY WASH THEM SEVERAL TIMES.

THEY DO GO AROUND BIDIRECTIONAL FLOW AROUND THE PROPERTY.

WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY TRAFFIC ISSUES.

WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE A PRETTY LARGE SPACE.

THIS IS TO SUMMARIZE WHAT THE ENCLOSURE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

IT'S BASICALLY A MASONRY ENCLOSURE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE REQUIRED.

SOMEONE BROUGHT THE COMMENT UP, WELL, THIS GRAPHIC ONLY SHOWS THE SIZE OF ONE TYPE OF MACHINE THAT'S AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE BUILDING IT TO ACCOMMODATE IF THE MODELS CHANGE OR IF WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE MACHINE, OR ALSO FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE EXPANSION OF A TYPICALLY WHEN YOU PUT AN ICE MACHINE LIKE THIS AND THEN IN THE SUMMER TIME, LET'S SAY THERE IS HIGH DEMAND.

WE DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE WILL HAVE HIGH DEMAND, BUT IF IT DOES, WE CAN PUT AN ADJACENT ONE NEXT TO IT.

PLUS WE ALSO NEED SPACE FOR TRASH CANS.

THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE EXTRA SPACE.

THERE WILL BE TRASH CANS IN THERE TO PREVENT ANY BAGS FROM BLOWING AROUND.

ALSO, WE NEED SPACE TO SERVICE THE MACHINE AND IT'S USUALLY GOING TO BE ON BOTH SIDES.

WHENEVER IT NEEDS TO BE, THE FILTERS NEEDS TO BE CLEANED OR A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED, THE SERVICE PERSON HAS TO GO IN IN OTHER RIGHT OR THE LEFT OF THE MACHINES.

SO WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE THREE FEET ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

THE ROOF OF IT WAS BROUGHT UP.

IT'S THE SAIL SHADE BY DESIGN, BY PURPOSE.

THAT'S ACTUALLY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN LESS EXPENSIVE TO DO OUR PANEL, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT IT WILL ACTUALLY LOOK NICER FOR OUR FACILITY IF WE CONTINUE THE THEME OF THE SAIL SHADES SUMMERY COOL LOOK, TO KEEP IT AS A SAIL SHADE APPEARANCE.

THIS IS THE SAIL SHADE THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE BACK.

ESSENTIALLY ALSO, JUST FOR OUR POSTS ABLE TO WITHSTAND HIGH WINDS, AND BASICALLY THE SOLE PURPOSE OF THAT IS JUST TO PROVIDE SHADE FOR OUR PET WASH CUSTOMERS AND PET PARK CUSTOMERS.

I THINK THAT'S IT FOR MY PRESENTATIONS.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

>> IF YOU WOULD, TELL US JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE ICE MACHINE ITSELF.

IS IT CUBES, ARE THEY IN BAGS, OR?

>> I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT QUESTION TO MY PARTNER, WILLIE DANIEL.

HE'S PARTNERING WITH ME ON THIS PROJECT AND HE PROBABLY KNOWS MORE ABOUT ICE MACHINES THAN ANYONE THAT I KNOW.

GO AHEAD, WILLIE. WHY DON'T YOU COME TO THE MIC.

>> HI, MY NAME IS WILLIE DANIEL.

I'VE OWNED SEVERAL OF THESE ICE KIOSK.

THE KIOSK THAT WE HAVE IN MIND FOR THIS LOCATION, COOLER ICE, IRON 1500.

IT DOES BAG THE ICE.

THEY'RE 10 POUND BAGS.

YOU CAN EITHER VAN ONE BAG OR TWO BAGS, AND THEN IT CANCELS THAT TRANSACTION AND YOU WOULDN'T MAKE ANOTHER TRANSACTION.

ALSO, THIS MACHINE HAS A REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER FILTRATION IN IT.

SO YOU CAN ALSO SELL WATER EITHER.

ONE GALLON INCREMENTS OR FIVE GALLON IF YOU HAVE THOSE, AS YOU SEEN, THOSE FIVE-GALLON WATER COOLERS THAT YOU SEE IN OFFICE DISPENSERS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'VE GOT A QUESTION. BASICALLY, YOU SAID THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A DOOR ON THE ICE MACHINE BUILDING, BUT THERE'S THREE FEET ON EACH SIDE OF THE ICE MACHINE TO GET INTO THE BACK OF IT. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID?

>> ON THE SIDES FOR MAINTAINING IT AND ALSO FOR AIRFLOW.

IT REQUIRES A SPACE AROUND IT.

TYPICALLY, THESE MACHINES ARE ACTUALLY STANDALONE.

TYPICALLY, THIS MACHINE DOES NOT REQUIRE AN ENCLOSURE.

MY FIRST QUESTION TO PLANNING AND ZONING WAS, HEY, CAN I PUT UP THIS ICE MACHINE?

[00:15:02]

IT COMES WITH ITS OWN LITTLE CANOPY.

IT WOULD BE MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE IF THE ANSWER WAS YES, BUT THE ANSWER WAS NO.

THE ANSWER WAS, I HAVE TO ENCLOSE IT.

THEN, OF COURSE, WHAT ARE THE ENCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS? IT HAS TO BE BRICK MASONRY.

DOES THE MACHINE NEED IT? THE ANSWER IS NO.

BUT FOR THE AESTHETIC APPEARANCE OF THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE, FOR THE REQUIREMENTS, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY WISE TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND TO PUT THE ENCLOSURE WITH MASONRY THAT'S GOING TO BE MATCHING THE MASONRY OF THE BUILDING.

IT WILL PROBABLY HAVE AN ADDED BENEFIT OF IS THAT NO ONE IS GOING TO SEE THE BACK OF THE MACHINE, WHICH IS PROBABLY NOT AS GOOD LOOKING AS THE FRONT OF THE MACHINE.

PLUS WE'D BE ABLE TO HOUSE OUR TRASH CANS.

I THINK IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF VERY GOOD BENEFITS.

>> IT'S A PRETTY BIG BUILDINGS SO THE REST OF IT IS OPEN INSIDE AND SO YOU'LL HAVE TRASH CANS IN THERE AND SO FORTH?

>> YES, THE TRASH CANS ARE GOING TO BE IN THERE.

THE THREE FEET SPACE AROUND THE MACHINE IS ALSO GOING TO ENCLOSE THAT SPACE.

I THINK THIS WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP IN A PRIOR MEETING.

SOMEONE SAID, IT'S WEIRD TO HAVE A CAR WASH THAT ALSO HAS AN ICE MACHINE.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE VISITED MY LOCATION, OUR BUSINESS APPEALS TO A LOT OF OUTDOOR PEOPLE.

DO IT YOURSELF TYPE OF PEOPLE.

PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO CAMPING, OR ON AN RV TRIP, OR GO TO THE LAKE.

THEY'LL TAKE THEIR BOAT, THEY'LL WASH IT AT MY FACILITY.

BUT THOSE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO ALSO WANT TO SOMETIMES GET SOME ICE AND PUT IT IN A NICE CHEST OR PACK ICE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO A PARTY, OR THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A PICNIC.

WE FEEL THAT THEY ALMOST GO HAND IN HAND.

>> I MENTIONED TRASH CANS, AND YET I SEE ON THE DRAWING THAT THERE IS APPARENTLY A DUMPSTER ON THERE AND THEN AN ENCLOSURE BACKED BY THE PROPOSED SALE SHADE.

>> THE DUMPSTER? YES. THERE'S A DUMPSTER.

>> WHERE IT SAYS TRASH?

>> YEAH.

>> ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TRASH CANS UP BY THE ICE MACHINE OR IN THE BUILDING BY THE ICE MACHINE ALSO?

>> THE TRASH CANS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM INSIDE OF THAT ENCLOSURE SO THAT THEY'RE NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.

WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE.

IF WE WANTED TO PUT ANOTHER MACHINE WITH THE REQUIRED SPACE AROUND IT PLUS TRASH CANS, WE WOULD HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE TO DO THAT.

>> SO YOU HAVE TRASH CANS IN THE BASE WHERE PEOPLE WASH THEIR VEHICLES?

>> YES, WE DO. NOT INSIDE THE BASE, RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE BASE.

>> ARE THOSE THE TRASH CANS THAT YOU THEN PUT UP IN THE ICE MACHINE BUILDING?

>> THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT TRASH CANS.

I MEAN, IT'S ALL ABOUT CONVENIENCE.

IF YOU NOTICE THE ENTIRE LOCATION, WE'VE HAVE THEM NUMBERED.

THERE'S BAY 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. THERE'S EIGHT BAYS.

BETWEEN EACH BAY, THERE'S A TRASH CAN AT THE BACKSIDE OF EACH BAY BETWEEN THE TWO BAYS SO THAT IF A CUSTOMER IS CLEANING THEIR CAR AND THEY HAVE SOME TRASH IN THE CAR, THEY CAN WALK TO THE TRASH CAN AND DISCARD THEIR TRASH.

THE VACUUMS ALSO HAVE, THERE'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 VACUUMS, AND ALSO ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE VACUUMS, THERE'S A TRASH CAN FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE VACUUMING THEIR VEHICLES AS WELL.

NOW, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY FOR OUR CLEANING PERSON TO TAKE CARE AND MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY, HE WILL THEN EMPTY ALL THE TRASH INTO THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

THAT IS ALSO ENCLOSED BY MASONRY, BUT THERE'S A FENCE THAT SEPARATES THAT FROM THE DOG PARK.

>> [NOISE] THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND NOW. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION THAT I DID THINK IT WAS AN INTERESTING COMBINATION.

I DON'T TRADITIONALLY THINK OF A CAR WASH AS HAVING A NICE MACHINE I CAN SEE, BUT I'M NOT A CAMPER, SO THAT MIGHT BE WHY I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT.

BUT I'M CURIOUS, OTHER THAN YOUR CUSTOMERS WHO COME IN AND THEY'RE WASHING THEIR CAR AND THEY SAY, THERE'S AN ICE MACHINE, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE SIGNAGE OR HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADVERTISE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST DRIVING ALONG THE STREET THERE IN FRONT TO THINK, WOW, I NEED TO GET SOME ICE? ARE YOU PLANNING ON TRYING TO ADVERTISE THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT?

>> THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS TO ADVERTISE, BUT YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SIGN THAT'S GOING TO TELL PEOPLE THAT, HEY, THIS IS AN ICE AND FILTERED WATER MACHINE.

WE'LL MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW THE SIGN PROTOCOLS FOR THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE.

BUT YES, THERE WILL BE A SIGN PROBABLY ON THE BRICK MASONRY ON THE OUTSIDE PLUS THE ACTUAL ICE MACHINE

[00:20:02]

ITSELF COMES WHEN WE PURCHASE IT WITH THE GRAPHICS ON TOP OF IT TELLING PEOPLE THAT THIS IS AN ICE AND WATER MACHINE.

>> WELL, THAT'S IF YOU'RE BACK THERE BY THE MACHINE AND YOU SEE THAT?

>> YES.

>> BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL SIGN THAT WOULD ADVERTISE, THAT IS JUST MY QUESTION.

>> WE WOULD PROBABLY GET A SIGNED PERMIT BEFORE WE DO THAT.

YES, ON THE ENCLOSURE ITSELF, THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE A SIGN PLUS, WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

BUT SOMETIMES YOU SEE THESE CANOPIES AT THE DEALERSHIPS, THOSE SALES SHADES, YOU CAN ACTUALLY EMBROIDER A SIGN ON IT THAT SAYS, ICE AND WATER, OR ICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> WE PLAN ON GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT.

THERE IS OTHER ADVERTISING, OF COURSE, WE HAVE A WEBSITE, WE HAVE FACEBOOK PAGE, WE HAVE INSTAGRAM.

THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY SEARCH FOR THESE ICE MACHINES, SO THERE ARE WEBSITES FOR THEM.

>> THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT?

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

DO WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE?

>> NO, SIR.

>> DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?

>> NO, SIR.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SECOND.

>> NOTIFY THE COMMISSION HAS CLOSED THE MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> MOVE TO CLOSE.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED, THE MOTION CARRIES.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED ON PD23-28.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON ZONING APPLICATIONS ON PD23-3,

[5. Zoning Change Application Z22-03 (Grapevine Springs), Planned Development Overlay PD23-02 and Final Plat for Lots 1-32, 33X, Block 1, Grapevine Springs and Lot 1R, Block 1R, Grapevine Office Park – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by H Creek Development requesting to rezone 11.248 acres from the “PO”, Professional Office District and “CC”, Community Commercial District to “R-7.5”, Single-Family District and “R-5.0”, Zero-Lot-Line District with a planned development overlay to develop 32 single-family detached lots and one open space/common area lot. The planned development overlay is to allow for private streets in a single-family/zero-lot-line residential development and for the front lot lines to also be the centerline of the private street. Front yard setbacks for each residential lot will be measured from the centerline of the private street on which it fronts. The applicant is also requesting a replat of Lot 1, Block 1, Grapevine Office Park. The subject property is located at 1600 West Northwest Highway.]

AND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY PD2302, AND THE FINAL PLAT, ERICA MORONEY.

>> THIS IS A REQUEST SUBMITTED BY H CREEK DEVELOPMENT, LLC FOR A ZONE CHANGE TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 11.24 ACRES FROM A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO AN R7 AND A HALF SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT, AND R5.0 LOT LINE DISTRICT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 32 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS AT TWO DIFFERENT DISTRICTS STANDARDS.

AS PART OF THIS REQUEST, THERE IS ALSO AN ASSOCIATED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY WHICH WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DEVELOP PRIVATE STREETS IN A SINGLE-FAMILY ZERO LOT LINE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT INTO DEVIATE FROM FRONT YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENTS IN THE LOCATION OF THE FRONT LOT LINE FOR THOSE SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS AT THE CENTER LINE OF THE PROPOSED PRIVATE STREET.

AT THIS TIME, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A REQUEST TO TABLE CONSIDERATION OF THIS REZONE REQUEST AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY, AS WELL AS THE PLOT APPLICATIONS TO YOUR NOVEMBER 21, 2023, JOINT MEETING.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR TO PROVIDE ANY MORE INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE TABLING REQUESTS THAT IS BEFORE YOU.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO TABLE THIS EVENING.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> DO YOU WANT TO LET HIM TALK TO US ABOUT THE TABLE OR WHAT?

>> DO YOU WANT TO? OKAY.

>> I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHY HE WANTS TO SAY.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CHAIRMAN OLIVER, AND P&Z.

MY NAME IS ETHAN MARCUS 604 EAST, NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.

I AM REQUESTING TO TABLE TONIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THIS PLAN.

HOPEFULLY, BRING IT BACK WITHOUT SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ERICA AND STAFF HAVE MENTIONED ON THEIR DEVIATIONS AND SOME OF THE CONDITIONS.

I ALSO WANTED TO SAY, WHILE I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT I HAVE A STACK OF CARDS, AND IF THERE'S ANY NEIGHBORS HERE TONIGHT, I WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND GIVE THEM MY CONTACT INFORMATION SO I CAN SHOW THEM WHAT OUR PLANS ARE COME NOVEMBER.

WITH THAT, I HOPE YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO TABLE THIS CASE. THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> WE'VE HEARD YOUR REQUEST, THE APPLICANT TABLE TILL NOVEMBER 21.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST UNTIL NOVEMBER 21.

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, NON-OPPOSED. [NOISE]

>> THE COMMISSION VOTED TO TABLE UNTIL THE MEETING NEXT MONTH.

CONSIDERATION IS AN ORDER FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> THAT WE TABLE THE REQUEST TO NOVEMBER 21ST.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

THE APPLICATION IS STILL IN PLACE.

[00:25:03]

WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE?

>> YES, SIR. THERE ARE SEVERAL LETTERS BEFORE YOU.

SPECIFICALLY, THERE ARE 17 LETTERS AND OPPOSITION FROM THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 200 FOOT, AND THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHERS FOR OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.

>> THEY ALREADY FILED A PART OF THE EVIDENCE OF THE CASE, AND THE [OVERLAPPING].

>> YES.

>> THE MEMBERS WILL HAVE SOME OF THAT EVIDENTIARY EITHER NEED TO TAKE IT WITH YOU OR TO LEAVE IT WITH THE CITY SECRETARY, SO YOU'LL HAVE IT AVAILABLE AT THE NEXT MEETING.

ANYBODY HERE THAT'S INTERESTED IN THIS CASE, THIS IS THE ONLY OFFICIAL NOTIFICATION THAT YOU'LL BE GIVEN WHEN THE CASE WILL BE CONSIDERED AGAIN.

YOU NEED TO MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND TELL YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS THAT IS RESCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONTH.

THOSE THAT HAVE FILED LETTERS OR CORRESPONDENCE WILL THEREFORE THE EVIDENCE WILL REMAIN A PART OF THE CASE.

YOU WON'T HAVE TO REDO THAT.

CHAIRMAN, THAT COMPLETES THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BETWEEN THE PLAN ZONING COMMISSION OF THE COUNCIL.

YOU'RE GOING TO RECONVENE TO THE MEETING ROOM ON THE RIGHT, CONSIDER YOUR AGENDA.

ANYONE INTERESTED IN THAT CAN FOLLOW THEM AND IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING.

THE REST OF YOU CAN REMAIN HERE AND LISTEN TO THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SPEAKING CITIZENS, COMMENTS.

>> ANY COMMENTS?

>> I'M SORRY, COME UP SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.

>> THE NOTIFICATION I SUBMITTED FOR THE TABLE LIST.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT AND I SUBMITTED A CITIZENS' COMMENTARY.

>> HE HASN'T GOTTEN TO THAT.

HE'LL CALL YOU IN JUST A MINUTE.

CITIZENS' COMMENTS IS MIXED ONCE THEY EXIT THE ROOSEVELT.

>> THE CASE IS BEING TABLED, AND THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE [OVERLAPPING].

>> YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK IN A MINUTE.

[BACKGROUND].

>> FIRST ITEM ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA IS CITIZEN COMMENTS.

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

ANY PERSON WHO IS NOT SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS OR ON ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEM BY COMPLETING A CITIZEN APPARENT REQUESTS WARM WITH THE CITY SECRETARY.

A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA EITHER BEFORE OR DURING THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF THE ITEM, UPON BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR UPON THE CONSENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CONSENT WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.

IN ADDITION, UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL IS RESTRICTED IN DISCUSSION OR TAKING ANY ACTION DURING CITIZEN COMMENTS.

DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS?

>> YES, SIR. I DO HAVE SEVEN REQUESTS FROM PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE GRAPEVINE SPRINGS.

I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WANT TO STILL SPEAK DURING CITIZEN COMMENTS.

I KNOW HE MENTIONED THAT, SO I'LL READ THEIR NAMES IF THEY WANT TO WAIT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING OR IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT, WOULD THAT WORK FOR YOU? THE FIRST I HAVE IS SHARON GRIP, 553 DOVE CREEK CIRCLE.

>> HELLO, COUNCIL AND MAYOR. MY NAME IS SHARON GRIP.

I'M 553 DOVE CREEK DRIVE, SO I LIVE BEHIND THIS PROPERTY.

I'M NOT GOING TO DO MY SPEECH BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS HAS BEEN PUT OFF.

BUT THIS PROCESS STARTED IN JULY.

PETITIONS AND LETTERS WERE SUBMITTED AUGUST 7TH, 43% OF THE PEOPLE SIGNED.

THE BUILDER PULLED THE PLANS TO MAKE CHANGES BASED ON THOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS, I WAS TOLD.

THE AUGUST 19TH MEETING WAS CANCELED.

HE CAME BACK WITH SLIGHTLY REVISED PLANS.

ALL ZONING, LEGAL PROCESSES WERE FOLLOWED, LETTERS WERE AVAILED, THE THING WAS POSTED ALL THIS STUFF WITH DONE THAT WE HAD TO DO A NEW PETITION, MORE LETTERS WERE DONE.

WE FEEL HE'S DELAYING THIS TO GARNER MORE SUPPORT BASED ON THE LETTERS AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE SENT IN TO BE READY FOR THIS VOTE.

IF THE PERSON WHO IS CAN KEEP MAKING CHANGES BASED ON WHAT WE SAY, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING A FAIR SHAKE ON THIS.

BUT NOVEMBER 21, IS THE HOLIDAY WEEK, AND THEN THE NEXT MEETING IS CHRISTMAS WEEK.

A LOT OF THESE FOLKS HAVE EXPRESSED TO ME THAT THEY WON'T BE HERE AND THEY FEEL LIKE THIS DELAY IS ALMOST INTENTIONAL.

I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'VE ALREADY VOTED TO TABLE IT, BUT I FELT LIKE YOU SHOULD KNOW WHERE WE STAND. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE?

>> SOCRATES VARYL,109 CROSS CREEK DRIVE.

[00:30:01]

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS SOCRATES VARYL, A GRAPEVINE RESIDENT AT 109 CROSS CREEK DRIVE.

I PRESENTED AS A PRESIDENT OF CREEP GRAPEVINE BEAUTIFUL AND PARTNER WITH MARY JO TO LEAN, THE DIRECTOR OF VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

AT THE TIME, WE COORDINATED OVER 35,000 VOLUNTEER ORDERS HOURS, THE EQUIVALENT OF $1 MILLION IN LABOR COSTS TO THE GREAT CITY OF GRAPEVINE.

MY LOVE FOR THE CITY IS EVIDENT IN MY ACTIONS.

I PURCHASED MY HOME AND STARTED MY FAMILY ON CROSS CREEK DRIVE WITH THE ADJACENT GRAPEVINE SPRINGS LAW UNDER CONSIDERATION ZONING CHANGE.

I WAS UPSET BY THE FORMAT THAT THIS POSTPONEMENT WAS MADE.

IT DOES NOT FOLLOW THE ORDINANCES.

SECTION 1936 B1 OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING BYLAWS PROHIBITS POSTPONEMENT OF NOTICES MOMENT AFTER NOTICES HAVE BEEN MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS.

THIS NOTICE CAME IN ON THE 16TH OF OCTOBER AND WE WERE NOTIFIED SHORTLY AFTER.

AS DIVERSE THAT HIS BODY IS AND FOLLOWING OUR BYLAWS AND ORDINANCES, I DON'T SEE HOW THIS COULD HAVE BEEN MISSED.

WHAT I FIND MORE CONCERNING IS THAT THE DRAFT LANGUAGE OF THE PROPOSED NEW P&Z BYLAWS USE THE VERBIAGE SPECIFICALLY TABLE RATHER THAN POSTPONE IN THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.

HE AGAIN ALSO USES THIS VERBIAGE TO TABLE THE SENDING OUT OF A NOTIFICATION IN THE LAST MINUTE TO QUASH OPPOSITION, AND THEN NOW NOT FOLLOWING ORDINANCES AND BYLAWS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE P&Z.

I FIND CONCERNING ON HOW WE'RE CONDUCTING OUR BUSINESS THIS EVENING.

AGAIN, THAT'S SECTION 1936 B1, AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, NOT AS IT'S DRAFTED TO BE AMENDED TOMORROW.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT.

>> TINA MAZE, 313 EAST FRANKLIN.

FRANK COLBY, 538 DOVE CREEK CIRCLE.

>> MY NAME IS FRANK COLBY, 538 DOVE CREEK CIRCLE.

I LIVE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN THE ZONING.

I'M ALSO VERY FRUSTRATED THAT WE GO AND SIGN PETITIONS AND IT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGED.

I MEAN, WE SIGN A PETITION, WE WRITE LETTERS AND IT'S CONSTANTLY BEING CHANGED BY MR. MAKERS TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER DATE, ANOTHER DATE, ANOTHER DATE.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE ON THAT.

WE CAN THANKSGIVING.

I'VE GOT PLANS ALREADY.

I CAN'T CHANGE THEM AND I'M GOING TO BE WITH MY DAUGHTER WHO LIVES IN ANOTHER STATE ON THANKSGIVING.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT MAKES IT SO DIFFICULT FOR OUR VOICES TO BE HEARD.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S UNFAIR.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> NO DEMONSTRATION.

THERE'S ANY MORE DEMONSTRATIONS.

THEY WON'T BE ANYMORE COMMENTS.

THIS IS NOT A FRATERNITY, IT'S A GOVERNMENT BODY AND ITS IN SESSION, SO YOU'LL RESPECT IT. ALL RIGHT.

>> COBURN CADIC, 565 DOVE CREEK CIRCLE.

>> THE REASON WHY THAT IS WE HAVE A RECORD WE'RE PRODUCING.

IT HAS TO BE VERBAL AND IT HAS TO BE ON THE RECORD.

IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU CAN SPEAK.

BUT CLAPPING DOESN'T GET IT DONE.

>> I'M SORRY. COBURN CADIC, 565 DOVE CREEK CIRCLE.

FRANCINE BRADFORD, 512 DOVE CREEK PLACE.

>> OVER TO THE NEXT ONE. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. JULIE JACOB, 503 DOVE CREEK.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE THE PROCESS.

I'VE OWNED MY PROPERTY NOW FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT I DID NOT RECEIVE THE ORIGINAL PROTEST NOTICE AS IS REQUIRED BY THE CITY STATUTES.

I RECEIVED THIS SECOND ONE.

WE WERE ALSO TOLD WE WERE ABLE TO SUBMIT PETITIONS.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS NOW TWICE.

THEN WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT THAT THAT IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE AND PETITIONS WON'T BE ACCEPTED.

NOW WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS LETTER BACK AND THAT'S FINE.

THEY'VE TOLD US THAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUT OF TOWN EITHER HAVE TO BRING IT BY HERE OR MAIL IT.

NOW, GIVEN THE TIMEFRAME THAT MAIL DELIVERY WOULD NOT MAKE IT IN TIME IN ORDER TO MAKE IT TO PLANNING AND ZONING IN TIME FOR THE PROTEST HEARING OR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARING.

[00:35:01]

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S NO FAX NUMBER PROVIDED OR AN EMAIL ADDRESS OR E-MAIL INSTRUCTIONS.

I THINK THAT IS ALSO UNFAIR TO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE GIVEN THE RIGHT TO COME IN FRONT OF THIS BODY AND TALK TO YOU GUYS AND PROTEST THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE. THANK YOU.

>> ANNA AMEN,3009 CREEKVIEW DRIVE.

>> HELLO, COUNCIL AND MAYOR, MY NAME IS ANNA AMEN.

I RESIDE AT 3009 CREEKVIEW DRIVE IT'S NEAR CAR PARK.

I HAVE TWO CHILDREN IN KINDERGARTEN AND IN THIRD GRADE AT GLENHOPE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP AN UNSAFE SCHOOL ZONE.

IF THE CROSSING AT POOL ROAD THAT GOES UP TO GLEN HOPE CIRCLE NORTH.

I KNOW THAT PARENTS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET ATTENTION PUT ON THAT SCHOOL ZONE FOR OVER A YEAR.

ON YOUR CITY WEBSITE, IT SAYS THAT YOU CONSIDER PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, ESPECIALLY AROUND SCHOOLS, ONE OF YOUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT IT IS NOT.

THE SCHOOL SIGNAGE DOWN THERE FOR THE CROSSING IS INADEQUATE, IT'S COVERED BY TREES.

THE MARKINGS ON THE GROUND ARE FLAKED OFF AND GONE IN MANY PLACES.

THAT IS A TWO LANE, 35 MILE AN HOUR ROAD THAT WE ARE ASKING OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS K THROUGH 5 TO ACROSS, OFTEN DURING THE DARK.

IS THERE A CROSSING GUARD THERE? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY 100% OF THE TIME, BUT ALREADY THIS SCHOOL YEAR, WHICH HAS ONLY BEEN GOING SINCE MID-AUGUST, WE HAVE NOT HAD A CROSSING GUARD TWICE THAT IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.

ONCE IN AUGUST IN THE AFTERNOON, AND ONCE LAST WEEK IN THE MORNING, IT WAS DARK AND THERE WAS NO CROSSING GUARD ON A FOUR LANE, 35 MILES AN HOUR ROAD.

WHEN WE CALL THE GRAPEVINE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REPORT IT, THE FIRST THING WAS, THAT'S NOT OUR INTERSECTION.

THEN BY THE TIME THE POLICEMEN FINALLY GOT THEIR SCHOOL WAS STARTING, THIS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE AND I WANT CHANGES.

I WANT MY KIDS TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN CROSS THAT INTERSECTION SAFELY, I WANT BETTER SIGNAGE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE A CROSSING GUARD IS ALWAYS THERE, AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE, SIR.

>> MR. ROMANOFF, MAKE SURE ALL THE NOTICE IS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED HAVE BEEN GIVEN OR WILL BE GIVEN?

>> YES, YOUR HONOR.

>> THE CITY ATTORNEY HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS TONIGHT?

>> I WILL JUST MAKE IT CLEAR, YOUR HONOR, THAT AS THE INTERESTED CITIZENS WERE ADVISED PREVIOUSLY TODAY THAT THE COUNCIL RETAINS THE PREROGATIVE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO CONTINUE OR TABLE CASES REGARDLESS OF ANY PROVISION IN THE P&Z IS BYLAWS AND YOU ACTED ABSOLUTELY CONSISTENT WITH YOUR PREROGATIVE AND WE'RE NOT ACTING INCONSISTENT WITH ANY PROVISION OR ORDINANCE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. RESHAPES EVERYBODY'S INTEREST AND CONCERN.

WE CAN'T REALLY RESPOND TO YOU, WE CAN DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF YOU'LL WANT TO SPEAK AT THAT TIME.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY THE PROCEDURE WORKS.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR YOUR CONCERN ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY.

THAT COMPLETES CITIZEN COMMENTS.

I'LL CONSIDER ITEM 7, THAT'S PUBLIC HEARING.

[7. Consider calling a public hearing regarding AM23-01 Accessory Dwelling Units (ADUs) to create and amend definitions in Section 12, Definitions; amend uses and use-specific standards in Section 13, “R-20”, Single-Family District; and create use-specific standards in Section 42, Supplementary District Regulations of the Zoning Ordinance relative to accessory dwelling units, and take any necessary action.]

WE'LL CALL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AM23-1 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS TO CREATE AN AMENDMENT DEFINITION IN SECTION 12.

DEFINITIONS, AMENDED USES AND USE-SPECIFIC STANDARDS AND SECTION 13 OR 20, SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICTS USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS AND SECTION 42, SUPPLEMENTARY DISTRICT REGULATION, AND ORDINANCE, ERICA MORONEY.

>> THANK YOU. THIS IS A REQUEST TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING IN RELATION TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 1ST IN RESPONSE TO RECENT STATE LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS.

THOSE BILLS, IF APPROVED, WOULD HAVE RESTRICTED THE CITY FROM ADOPTING OR ENFORCING REGULATIONS THAT PROHIBIT AN OWNER FROM BUILDING, SELLING OR RENTING AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT OR REQUIRING OWNER OCCUPANCY OF THE PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT OF A LOT WITH AN ADU FOR ANY LOT ZONED FOR SINGLE-FAMILY OR DUPLEX PURPOSES.

THESE BILLS DURING THE 88TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE REGULAR SESSION, WOULD HAVE AUTHORIZED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS BY RIGHT IN MOST CITY NEIGHBORHOODS WITH MINIMAL OVERSIGHT BY CITIES.

THEY WERE DRAFTED TO BYPASS CITY-LEVEL DIALOGUE ON LAND-USE MATTERS IN FAVOR OF UNIFORM REGULATION AT THE STATE LEVEL.

THESE BILLS WERE ULTIMATELY NOT SUCCESSFUL.

WITH THAT IN MIND, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAD THE AUGUST 1ST WORKSHOP AND A SUBSEQUENT SEPTEMBER 19TH WORKSHOP BEFORE THEIR REGULARLY SCHEDULED BRIEFING SESSION AND THE COMMISSION EVALUATED THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THEY DETERMINED THAT THE USE OF SERVANTS QUARTERS AND GUEST HOUSE OR ACCESSORY USES AND

[00:40:07]

ITS DEFINITIONS WERE THE MOST CLOSELY RELATED TO WHAT THE STATES PROPOSED LEGISLATION REFERRED TO AS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

THEY ALSO DETERMINED THAT SERVANTS QUARTERS AND GUESTHOUSES ARE PERMISSIBLE ACCESSORY UNITS ONLY IN SECTION 13, WHICH IS THE R-20 SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS.

THE COMMISSION EVALUATED LOCATIONAL CRITERIA THAT CURRENTLY APPLIES TO ACCESSORY BUILDINGS, WHICH IS FOUND IN SUBSECTION 42(C) ACCESSORY BUILDINGS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE ON AN R-20 ZONE LOT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT COULD CURRENTLY BE ALLOWED THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS ON AN R-20 LOT.

HOW LARGE IT COULD BE, HOW FAR SETBACK IT COULD BE FROM PROPERTY LINES, HOW CLOSE IT COULD BE TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.

ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE PROPOSED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT OR WHAT'S NOW KNOWN AS SERVANTS QUARTERS OR GUEST HOUSE, WOULD BE ALLOWED IN RELATION TO A PROPOSED OR AN EXISTING 2,500 SQUARE FOOT HOME ON AN R-20 LOT.

FROM THERE, THE COMMISSION CONSIDERED REVISIONS WHICH ARE PROVIDED IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS TO SECTION 12 DEFINITIONS, SECTION 13 OR 20, SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT AND SECTION 42, SUPPLEMENTARY DISTRICT REGULATIONS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL EVALUATE THESE PROPOSED CHANGES TO SECTION 12 DEFINITIONS, WHERE THEY'VE RENAMED SERVANTS QUARTERS TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND OPENED UP THE DEFINITION AND DELETED THE EXISTING DEFINITION OF GUEST HOUSE AS IT WAS REDUNDANT AND SEEMED CONFLICTING WITH SERVANTS QUARTERS OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.

ADDITIONALLY, THEY CHANGED THE NAME OR ASKING TO CHANGE THE NAME WITHIN SECTION 13 R-20 SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT TO ACCESSORY USES TO SECONDARY USES.

THEY'VE ALSO ADDED A NEW REFERENCE TO A NEW SUBSECTION WITHIN SECTION 42 (C) SUB-SECTION 6 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

THEY'VE ALSO ACCEPTED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS FROM SUBSECTION 42, C, D, E, F, AND G, AND DELETED REFERENCE TO GUEST QUARTERS.

I'VE MOVED TOO FAR, I'M SORRY.

WITHIN SECTION 42, SUPPLEMENTARY DISTRICT REGULATIONS, THEY'VE ADDED SOME LOCATIONAL CRITERIA SUCH AS LIMITING ADUS WITHIN THE R-20 DISTRICT TO ONE PER LOT, PROHIBITING MODULAR OR MANUFACTURED PREFABRICATED OFFSITE UNITS.

LIMITED THE SIZE TO 750 SQUARE FEET IN ONE BEDROOM, STATED THAT IT NEEDED TO BE SERVED IF BUILT FROM A UTILITY METER, THE SAME AS THE PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT.

STATED THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER MUST OCCUPY THE PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT, LIMITED THE HEIGHT OF THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT TO ONE STORY, 16 FEET WHERE CURRENTLY THEY COULD DO ONE-AND-A-HALF STORIES.

STATED THAT IT MUST BE LOCATED IN THE REAR YARD OF THE R-20 LOT AND SPECIFIED SETBACKS FOR INTERNAL AND CORNER LOTS IN REVERSE FRONTAGE LOTS WHERE THERE ARE NONE TODAY.

THEY'VE ALSO SET FORTH SOME ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS INCLUDING REQUIRING SAME OR SIMILAR EXTERIOR BUILDING MATERIALS OR FINISHES, SAME OR SIMILAR ROOF PITCH, FLOOR PLATE HEIGHT IN PLACEMENT OF DOORS AND WINDOWS SO THAT IT IS OF THE SAME FLAVOR IN VERNACULAR OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE THAT EXISTS ONSITE.

THEY'VE ALSO ADDED LANGUAGE THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT IF AN ADU WERE TO BE PROPOSED, THAT IT BE SET ON A PERMANENT FOUNDATION ON THE GROUND AND ESTABLISH PARKING STANDARDS FOR ONE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE BEYOND THE TWO OFF-STREET ALREADY REQUIRED ON A SINGLE-FAMILY LOT.

THROUGH THIS WORKSHOP PROCESS, THERE WAS SOME CONTRADICTORY FEEDBACK GIVEN TO STAFF.

WE HAD ALSO PROVIDED SOME DRAFTS WITHIN A WEEKLY UPDATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT NEEDS TO BE OWNER-OCCUPIED OR IF IT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE LEASED SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING TO ALLOW THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO BE AMENDED RELATIVE TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, INCLUDING SECTIONS 12, SECTIONS 13, AND SECTIONS 42 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

>>I HAVE A QUESTION BASED ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

IF THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS BUILT, IS ALREADY THERE, AND AN OWNER LEASES THE HOUSE,

[00:45:01]

THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH THIS, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THE BACKS? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE, AND I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

>> WE NEED CLARIFICATION WHETHER OR NOT IN THE EVENT THERE'S AN R-20 LOT WITH AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, IF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE ON YOUR OCCUPIED, OR IF YOU BELIEVE THAT IT IS ALLOWABLE TO HAVE IT BE LEASED OR RENTED.

>> I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS IF IT'S RENTED AND THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL FAMILY MEMBER THAT WAS LIVING THERE, A MOTHER-IN-LAW QUARTERS TIME THING.

THE WAY THAT THIS IS WRITTEN, WOULD THAT BE ALLOWED? IF IT'S RENTED, IF THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE IS RENTED?

>> THAT'S THE FEEDBACK THAT WE NEED FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT [OVERLAPPING]

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD, AND IF THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE HAS LEASED OR RENTED IT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ACCESS IT.

>> THEY STILL HAVE ACCESS TO IT.

IT'S PART OF THE PROPERTY. [OVERLAPPING]

>> UNITS.

>> WELL, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT'S WHAT THIS SAYS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S WHY SHE IS ASKING.

>> I KNOW. I THINK, OBVIOUSLY, THE GOAL IS NOT TO HAVE IT BE GENERATING INCOME, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT.

>> AND TO ALLOW FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT TO HAVE A MOTHER-IN-LAW QUARTERS OR WHATEVER TYPE OF THING.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IF SOMEBODY DOES A LONG-TERM LEASE, THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE IN THAT BACK UNIT.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO.

>> OR THE OWNER MOVES TO THE BACK UNIT, TO THE ADU, AND LEASES OUT THE PRIMARY?

>> YEAH.

>> I THINK THAT THE CONCERN IS IF IT WERE TO BE LEASED OUT, COULD THE ACCESSORY UNIT THEN BE LEASED OUT TO ANOTHER PARTY, AND THEN COULD THEY LEASE IT OUT TO SOMEONE ELSE?

>> I AGREE WITH YOU, WE NEED TO CLARIFY [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT WE, I THINK, ARE LOOKING TO PRECLUDE BECAUSE IT COULD GO ON TO ANOTHER, LESSEE, LESSEE, LESSEE.

I THINK THE INTENT, MR. OLIVER, YOU MIGHT NEED TO HELP ON THIS. I SEE YOU BACK THERE.

THE ISSUE WAS TO TRY TO ESTABLISH SOME STANDARDS FOR WHAT COULD BE CALLED BY OUR DEAR LEGISLATURE AND IT SAYS WE'RE DWELLING UNIT.

WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT AS IT RELATES TO OUR CITY.

THE INTENT, BY HAVING THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE B OWNER-OCCUPIED, WAS TO ADDRESS WHO IS IN THE ACCESSORY REBUILDING. AM I CORRECT?

>> MY RECOLLECTION IS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THAT IF, THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE WAS LEASED, THEN THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WOULD HAVE TO BE USED BY THE LESSOR.

THEN THEY CAN HAVE SOMEONE BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO FIT THE CRITERIA OF WHY THEY COULD EVEN UTILIZE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES USE IS BASED ON WHO'S IN THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

>> IF IT'S LEASED, AND THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE IS LEASED, AND THAT LESSOR, IN THIS CASE, PROBABLY NOT ALONE, YOU'RE THE LESSEE TO THE LESSOR, WHICH IS THE OWNER, THEY COULD USE THAT ADU FOR FAMILY OR FOR SOMETHING ELSE, THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN.

>> JUST LIKE IT WOULD BE FOR OWNER-OCCUPIED.

>> THE OWNER COULDN'T HAVE SOMEBODY SEPARATE IN THERE, THAT'S NOT RELATED AS WE'VE DESCRIBED IN THE OUTLINE TO THE WHO NOW OCCUPIES THAT PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

>> BASICALLY SAYING THAT ADUS NEED TO BE COVERED BY THE SAME LEASE, CAN'T HAVE TWO LEASES IN ONE PROPERTY? [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'M FINE WITH THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WRITE IT WHERE IT'S REALLY CLEAR.

>> THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED BECAUSE OTHERWISE, WE'RE BACK INTO RENTAL PROPERTY ON ANOTHER.

>> AS LONG AS THERE'S NO MONEY EXCHANGED, I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE ISSUE.

>> THAT'S THE SAME.

>> WHETHER THAT'S YOUR MOTHER-IN-LAW, OR YOUR LONG-LOST COUSIN, AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT RENTING IT OUT, WHETHER YOU ARE THE OWNER OR YOU'VE LEASED TO SOMEBODY, THEY CAN'T DO THIS.

>> THE UTILITIES ARE STILL BUILT TO ONE METER, AND THEY'RE JUST [OVERLAPPING]

>> IF THAT'S HOW IT ENDS UP GETTING WRITTEN I'M FINE WITH THAT.

>> THE LESSEE HE COULD NOT THEN LEASE OUT THE ADU TO ANOTHER PARTY.

>> CORRECT.

>> NOR COULD THE OWNER LEASE OUT TO TWO DIFFERENT PARTIES [OVERLAPPING]

>> CORRECT?

>> THAT'S FINE. I'M FINE WITH THAT.

>> EVERYBODY GOOD?

>> WE UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, ERICA. GOOD JOB.

>> WE'VE HAD THE PRESENTATION TO WHEREVER ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST A PROPOSAL?

>> NO, YOUR HONOR.

>> WITH EVERY COURSE.

>> WE'RE CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL WE'RE DOING IS CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS AN ORDER.

>> PUBLIC HEARING, IS IT?

>> WELL, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

[00:50:02]

>> WE NEED TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> FOR CONSIDERING CALLING THE PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THIS TOPIC.

THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, WE'RE CONSIDERING CALLING IT, SETTING IT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I MOVE THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE.

>> I MISREAD IT.

>> THAT'S OKAY, NO WORRIES.

>> SECOND.

>> NO, IT'S A MOTION TO CALL.

ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED.

LARRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU WANT TO GIVE US THE RECOMMENDATION, GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY. 26.

>> CU 2328 WAS APPROVED 7O.

>> I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

THAT'S THE ONLY ACTION TONIGHT.

>> YES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. CHAIRMAN.

WILL RETURN THEN TO CONSIDER CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AM 2306,

[8. Consider calling a public hearing regarding AM23-06 Payton-Wright Addition Pole Signs to amend Subsection B.1., On-Premise Signs of the Zoning Ordinance to include a segment of State Highway 114 between Lots 1R4, 2R, 3R and Lot 4 of the Payton-Wright Addition to allow a shared pole or pylon signs between lots within the planned commercial center, and take any necessary action.]

ADDITIONAL POSTS ON DOMAIN SECTION B1.

IN ORDER TO CONCLUDE A SEGMENT OF STATE I WEIGH 114 BETWEEN WATCH ONE FOR ONE OR FOUR, TWO OR THREE OR FOUR OF THE PEYTON WRIGHT EDITION. ERICA MORONEY.

>> YES THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE DEVELOPER OF THE PLAN COMMERCIAL CENTER LOCATED AT THE FORMER PEYTON WRIGHT.

AUTOMOTIVE DEALERSHIP CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND COMMISSION FOR RECENT AMENDMENTS AS SOME EXTERIOR CHANGES FOR THE ROCK AND BREWS RESTAURANT THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION LOCATED AT LOT 1 R4 ON JUNE 20, 2023.

AT THAT TIME, THE DEVELOPER AND THE REPRESENTATIVE DISGUST DESIRE FOR ADDITIONAL POLE OR PYLON SIGNS AS THEY HAVE SUBDIVIDED THE PROPERTY, WHICH WAS INITIALLY APPROVED, SHOWING SEVEN RESTAURANTS OR SEVEN PAD SITES FOR RESTAURANTS ON THREE LOTS.

SINCE THEN, ADDITIONAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR MORE RESTAURANTS, AND THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN SUBDIVIDED INTO FIVE INDIVIDUAL LOTS, BUT WITH FOUR POLE SIGNS APPROVED.

THEREFORE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THE COUNCIL CALL A PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE THEY DESIRE TO HAVE A SHARED POLL SIGN ON WHAT IS PLOTTED AS LOT 3R2, THE FIRE BURNS WOOD FIRE GRILL LOT, WHICH HAS ALREADY RECEIVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL TO DO A SHARED POLL SIGN WITH LOT 3R1 FOR OUR FUTURE RESTAURANT AT A LATER DATE.

THIS WOULD INCLUDE CHANGES TO SUB-SECTIONS 60B1B ON-PREMISE SIGNS IN SUBSECTION 602D12, POLE SIGNS, CONDITIONAL USES OF SECTION 60 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW A SHARED POLL OR PYLON SIGN ON LOT3R2 FOR BOTH RESTAURANTS ON LOT 3R1 AND 3R2.

THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

THE DEVELOPER BRITONS, WHO IS DEVELOPING THE RESTAURANTS IN THAT AREA TO INCLUDE SON OF A BUTCHER, VELVET, TACO, ROCK AND BREWS AND FIRE BOATERS, BIRDS IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE RELATIVE TO THIS REQUEST TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING.

I BELIEVE YOU'VE ALSO BEEN PROVIDED WITH THEIR LETTER OF REQUESTS AT HER PLACE AT THE DYESS.

>> ITERATION IS AN ORDER.

>> I'LL MOVE TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED MOTION CARRIED OUT.

[9. Consider Resolution No. 2023-018 authorizing the acceptance of funds for the State of Texas, Office of the Attorney General, Other Victim Assistance Grant (OVAG) Program for Fiscal Year 2024, Ordinance No. 2023-064 to appropriate the funds, and take any necessary action.]

I'M NOT CONSIDER RESOLUTION 2023.

DAYS SHOW ONE A AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF FUNDS FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OTHER VICTIM ASSISTANCE GRANT PROGRAM FOR PHYSICAL YEAR 2024 FEET, MIKE.

>> THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THE OFFICE OF THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL PROVIDES OTHER VICTIM ASSISTANCE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO ASSIST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN PROVIDING SERVICES AND ASSISTANCE DIRECTLY TO VICTIMS AND OR THEIR FAMILIES OF CRIME.

THE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION FROM THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED UNDER THE UNDER THAT GRANT.

THIS GRANT WILL REIMBURSE THE DEPARTMENT OR THE CITY IN THE AMOUNT OF $25,700 FOR VICTIM SERVICES.

THE GRANT IS EFFECTIVE UPON THE FINAL SIGNATURE OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED, AND IT CONCLUDES AUGUST 31, 2025, AND IT IS A TWO-YEAR GRANT.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> GREAT TO GET THAT MONEY BACK. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU CHIEF.

THE NEXT IS THE CONSENT ITEMS.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

TEN TO 25 ARE NOT SCHEDULED FOR ANY COUNSEL TO BITE ANY GUESTS PRESIDENT CAN REQUEST ANY ATOM MOVES BE REMOVED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME, DO WE HAVE ANY REQUEST?

>> I'D LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM 23 PLEASE.

>> 23?

>> YES, SIR.

[00:55:02]

>> THEN 10 THROUGH 22.24 2025 OR THE DAMPED MOTION IS AN ORDER.

>> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TEN THROUGH 22, 24 AND 25.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 23.

[23. Consider a surveying services contract with Spooner and Associates, Inc. and Ordinance No. 2023-068 to appropriate the funds. Public Works Director recommends approval.]

CONSIDER A SURVEYING SERVICE CONTRACTS, BOEHNER ASSOCIATES AND THE ORDINATES NUMBER 2023 DAYS SHOWS SIX TO EIGHT APPROPRIATE THE FUNDS.

>> I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THIS IS LEADING TO AND WHAT DOES.

>> YES, MA'AM. I AM.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I APOLOGIZE TO THE COUNCIL.

WE SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED SOME LAYOUT MAPS FOR THESE PROJECTS.

WE ARE PROPOSING TO HIRE THIS SURVEY THAT WE'VE HAD A GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH TO, TO SURVEY FOR WATER AND SEWER REPLACEMENTS IN THESE FIVE LOCATIONS ACROSS CANNOT BE HAPPY TO GET YOU THOSE MAPS LATER THIS WEEK THAT WORK WITH TOTAL 40,000 FEET WORTH OF WATER LINE REPLACEMENTS AND 9,000 FEET WORTH OF SEWER LINE REPLACEMENTS.

WE EXPECT THAT IT WOULD LEAD TO ABOUT $15 MILLION AND EVENTUAL CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS.

THE REASON THAT WE'RE USING A SURVEY OR NOT AN ENGINEERING FIRM, IS THAT WE HAVE HIRED A NEW ENGINEER RECENTLY THAT HAS A FAIR AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE.

WE'RE HOPING TO DESIGN THESE PROJECTS AND IN HOUSE AND LET THEM OURSELVES. AS IT RELATES.

PROBABLY THE MOST EXCITING PROJECT HERE IS THAT BARTON STREET AND JENKINS, WE DO PROPOSE TO REPLACE THE WATER AND SEWER LINES, THE FULL LENGTH OF BARTON AND THE FULL LENGTH OF JENKINS.

THAT WOULD LEAVE PROBABLY TO THE REPLACEMENT OF THE STREET ITSELF AFTER WE REPLACE SO MUCH OF THE SERVICE LINES, THAT WATER IMPROVEMENT IN THIS ONE WOULD ALSO FOLLOWED DOWN WALL STREET TO AUSTIN.