Sep 27, 2023 Historic Preservation Commission

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6:00 CLOCK AND IT'S TIME TO CALL THE SEPTEMBER 27TH HISTORIC PRESERVATION MEETING TO ORDER.

[1. Call to Order]

THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

I DIDN'T HEAR FROM ERIC, BUT ASHLEY HAD A CONFLICT.

I'M SURE. MAYBE.

ERIC, DID YOU HEAR FROM ERIC BY CHANCE? OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU, CASEY.

OUR SECRETARY, PAUL SCHLACHTER.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE, AS ALWAYS, AS OUR OUR OUR CITY COUNCIL LIAISON, MATTHEW BOYLE, ALWAYS A PLEASURE.

OUR CITY ATTORNEY. IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS, HE'LL KEEP US ON TRACK.

PW, GRAPEFEST, SENSATIONAL REPORTS.

THANK YOU TO ALL THAT VOLUNTEERED.

WE CAN'T DO IT WITH WE LITERALLY CANNOT PUT THAT SHOW ON WITHOUT PEOPLE.

WE'RE ENTERTAINING PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE WORLD.

MONICA HOTALING, OUR P AND Z LIAISON, AND OF COURSE, DAVID KLEMPIN WILL REPRESENT US HERE TONIGHT.

AND BEFORE I GET TO TO THE AGENDA, I NEED TO READ MY RED TAPE FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.

AND ANY PERSON WHO IS NOT SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA MAY ADDRESS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES BY COMPLETING A CITIZEN'S APPEARANCE REQUEST FORM.

SO, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE COMMISSION IS RESTRICTED AND DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION DURING CITIZEN COMMENTS.

IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO REGISTER NOW WITH THE SECRETARY.

SECRETARY WILL CALL YOUR FORWARD SPEAK IN THE ORDER OF YOU'VE RECEIVED.

AND CASEY, WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO, WE DO NOT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS OUR WORK SESSION.

[3. Work Session]

WE HAVE A FAIR NUMBER OF THEM, BUT SINCE WE HAD ONLY ONE CASE ON THE AGENDA, I'M GOING TO PASS THEM AROUND AT THIS TIME.

THESE WERE STAFF APPROVED.

THE FIRST ONE IS CA 2344 B FOR 204 EAST FRANKLIN.

THIS IS THE DR.

ALLISON HOUSE WHERE THEY ARE DOING SOME MORE REPAIR WORKS ON BOTH THE BUILDING AND THE GARAGE BUILDING THAT'S OUT IN THE BACK.

THE NEXT ONE IS CA 2355 FOR 301 EAST TEXAS STREET.

THIS IS THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF GRAPEVINE TO INSTALL WAYFINDING SIGNS ON THEIR PROPERTY.

AND ABOUT A YEAR AGO THEY CAME WITH A PROPOSAL TO PUT SOME PERMANENT SIGNAGE OUT THERE AND THE DESIGN OF IT WE QUESTIONED AND THEY WORKED WITH US AND THEY CAME UP WITH A NEW DESIGN. SO THIS IS A NEW DESIGN WHICH FITS IN VERY NICELY WITH ALL THEIR OTHER SIGNS.

AND ON USE THESE BE USED ON A PROPERTY.

THE NEXT ONE IS CA 2357 FOR 301 EAST WALL STREET.

THIS IS JUST CHANGING THE COLOR SCHEME OF THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE.

IT'S FOLLOWED BY K 2358 FOR 521 SOUTH DOOLEY.

THIS IS THE RYAN AND SUMMER TATE HOUSE WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING UP NEW BOARD PRIVACY FENCE AND A DRIVEWAY GATE.

NEXT ONE IS CA 2359 FOR 211 EAST WALL STREET.

THIS IS RONNIE PAK AND MR. GREEN. THE HOUSE THAT HAS BEEN REDONE, IT'S NOW PAINTED LIKE A DARK BLUE.

AND THIS IS FOR THE ROOF AND OTHER DETAILS ABOUT THE HOUSE.

THEN WE HAVE 23, 64, 312 WEST WALL STREET.

THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT IS FAMILIAR TO SEAN BECAUSE HE USED TO OWN THIS PROPERTY AND THEY'VE PUT A PICKET FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. BUT IT ACTUALLY LOOKS QUITE GOOD.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN IT YET. I JUST I SAW IT TODAY.

THEN WE HAVE CA 2361 FOR 807 EAST TEXAS STREET.

THIS IS IN THE BOX ADDITION HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND THIS IS TO REPAINT THE HOUSE IN A DIFFERENT PAINT COLOR AND ALSO REPLACE THE FENCE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE

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THEN CA 2362 FOR 232 AUSTIN STREET.

THIS IS THE HOUSE THAT LARRY MARSHALL BUILT FOR HIMSELF THAT WAS SOLD AND THE FOLKS WERE REPLACING THE EXISTING FENCE AND GATES THERE.

IT'S REBUILDING IT WITH A DIFFERENT FENCE.

CA 2364 IS FOR 301 EAST TEXAS STREET.

AGAIN, THIS IS FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH.

THIS IS TO PUT TEMPORARY BANNERS OUT FOR THE FOR THE FALL FESTIVAL, WHICH CORRESPONDED A GREAT FEST.

THIS LAST ONE IS CA 2365 FOR 601 SOUTH MAIN STREET, SUITE 100.

IT'S WEINBERGER SANDWICH SHOP.

HE DID A LOT OF UPDATING ON THE INSIDE OF HIS SHOP TO CELEBRATE THE THE WIENER DAY OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

HE ALSO TO GET READY FOR THAT HE PUT NEW A NEW SIGN UP.

SO THIS IS FOR HIS NEW SIGN ON THE FRONT OF HIS BUILDING.

SO THAT COMPLETES THE CAS THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS PERIOD.

WE HAVE MORE THAT WILL BE COMING FOR NEXT MONTH, PROBABLY THIS MANY.

WE HAVE SO MANY CASE NUMBER 65 THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

WE'RE WELL ON OUR WAY FOR A BIG YEAR.

TAKES US DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, [INAUDIBLE] TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CA

[4.A. Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness #CA23-52 for property located at 305 Smith Street, legally described as Dooley Survey Abstract 422 Tract 62B, City of Grapevine and take any necessary action.]

I'LL NOW DECLARE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND WE'LL GET STARTED WITH CA 2352.

OKAY. THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 305 SMITH STREET, WHICH IS THE 1914 HISTORIC KOONTZ SIMMONS HOUSE AS HO 1005. THIS IS ALSO THE HOUSE WHERE ERIC AND CINDY EICHER LIVED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND THEY DID MOST OF THE RESTORATION ON THE HOUSE AND THE OLD GARAGE BARN THAT WAS IN THE BACK.

SO THE BACKGROUND ON THIS IS THAT THIS CA WAS TURNED IN ON JULY 24TH.

FINAL VERSION FROM MARTIN GUTHRIE, THE NEW OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

AND WHAT HE'S WANTING TO DO IS TO ADD THE 200 SQUARE FOOT STORAGE BUILDING THAT'S ALLOWED BY THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE ONTO THIS PROPERTY, AND HE WOULD LIKE TO ATTACH IT TO THE GARAGE.

SO THERE'S AN EXISTING GARAGE THERE.

AND I'M GIVING YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE HOW THIS WAS BEFORE THE ORIGINAL GARAGE OR BARN THAT WAS BACK THERE.

YOU SEE ON THIS IMAGE HERE, ALONG WITH THE HOUSE, WE'RE CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES TO THE OUR ORIGINAL TOWN NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO THERE'S DOCUMENTATION OF HOW IT LOOKED ORIGINALLY.

AND BACK IN 2009, WE WORKED WITH THE EICHERS AND THEY REBUILT THE STRUCTURE.

AS YOU SEE IT. THEY'RE PAINTED GRAY WITH WHITE TRIM AND ORIGINALLY IT DID HAVE SLIDING DOORS ON IT.

BUT LATER ON, AFTER THEY WERE THERE FOR A WHILE, THEY ASKED TO HAVE A REGULAR GARAGE DOOR PUT IN, WHICH THEY LATER PUT IN.

WE APPROVED THAT, STAFF APPROVED.

SO THAT'S HOW THE BUILDING LOOKS.

AND THEN THAT'S ITS LOCATION IN THE REAR YARD OF THE HOUSE.

SO HERE'S A SITE PLAN OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE GARAGE.

AND THEN HERE'S THE LOCATION FOR THE NEW ADDITION AT THE FAR BACK OF THE GARAGE.

WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, MR. GUTHRIE, IT WAS GOING TO BE MUCH LARGER.

SO I EXPLAINED TO HIM HOW OUR ORDINANCE ALLOWS LIKE 500 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE, 200 SQUARE FOOT STORAGE BUILDING AND WORKED WITH THEM ABOUT

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SO HE HE PULLED BACK ON THE SIZE OF IT TO SOMETHING THAT FITS OUR ORDINANCE.

SO THIS IS HOW IT WOULD BE LAID OUT.

THIS IS ORIGINAL PLANS OF THE PROPERTY THE WAY IT WAS.

AND THEN HERE ON THIS DRAWING, YOU CAN SEE IT BUMPED OUT TO THE REAR, THE 200FT².

THE PURPOSES OF THIS IS THAT IT WOULD BE A WORKSHOP FOR HIM.

I THINK HE HAS WOODWORKING TOOLS AND HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT OPEN DIRECTLY INTO THE GARAGE SO HE CAN JUST KIND OF FLOW THROUGH THERE LIKE THAT.

AND ALSO, THIS GARAGE ALREADY HAS A LITTLE ACCESS DOOR THAT GOES OUT TO THE BACKYARD SO HE CAN STILL GO THROUGH THAT AREA, THESE PLANS AND MOVE TO THE ELEVATIONS.

HERE'S SOME VIEWS THAT YOU'D SEE ALONG THE STREET.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE STREET VIEW PHOTOS, THAT'S HOW IT LOOKS NOW.

IT HAS THAT BEAUTIFUL PICKET FENCE.

AND THEN THERE'S A DRAWING THAT WAS PREPARED SHOWING HOW THE GARAGE IS RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN THE ONE BELOW THAT SHOWS WHERE THE ADDITION WOULD OCCUR OUT TO THE REAR.

SO YOU'D SEE IT, BUT IT'S REALLY RECEDES.

WHAT'S NICE IS IT STEPS BACK.

SO YOU ALMOST WOULD NOT EVEN KNOW IT'S THERE.

IT'S IN VERY NICELY.

VERY NICE DRAWINGS WERE DONE BY THE AUSTIN FLEMING OF THE EXURB STUDIO WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY AND THEN IT'S HOW IT WOULD BE IMPACTED, THESE DRAWINGS HERE.

AND THEN HERE'S JUST A DRAWING OF THE GARAGE WITH THE THIS, THE WORKSHOP ATTACHED.

SO STAFF REVIEW OF THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR'S STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC STRUCTURES, WHICH WE LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ORIGINAL TOWN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT. THIS WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT AND THEN IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR OUR OWN GUIDELINES FOR HISTORIC PROPERTY IN THE TOWNSHIP. SO THE PRESERVATION OFFICER BUILDING OFFICIAL AND DIRECTOR OF THE GRAPEVINE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU RECOMMEND A VARIANCE BE APPROVED TO COMBINE THE 200 SQUARE FOOT MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOT STORAGE BUILDING PROVIDED BY THE ORDINANCE WITH THE 500 SQUARE FOOT EXISTING, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM OF THE GARAGE TO CREATE A 700 SQUARE FOOT STRUCTURE, ALL THE EXTERIOR MATERIALS WOULD BE BOARD AND BATTEN AS YOU AS IT ALREADY IS RIGHT NOW, WOULD TRIM THE METAL ROOF AND THEY WOULD PUT THE METAL CRESTING ON THE ROOF UP.

AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS IS HOW IT DROPS DOWN.

SO YOU CAN STILL SEE THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE STRUCTURE JUST GOT EXTENDED WITHOUT YOU BEING ABLE TO TELL WHERE IT IS.

SO BACK ON THE ANALYSIS OF THIS, THE TOTAL LIVING AREA OF THE OF THE HOUSE, SEE THE HOUSE, THE WHOLE PROPERTY, THE MOMENT BACK HERE.

BACK AT THE SITE.

THE HOUSE IS 2470FT².

THE DETACHED TWO CAR GARAGE, A 500 PLUS THE PROPOSED 200 FOOT WORKSHOP WOULD BRING IT TO 700FT².

THE TOTAL SIZE OF THE HOUSE, LIVING AREA AND GARAGE BUILDING ALL ADDED TOGETHER TO BE ON THE GROUND PLANE IS 3170, WHICH IS WITHIN THE 4100FT² ALLOWED BY THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.

THE LOT SIZE IS 12,392FT² AND THE PROPOSED BUILDING COVERAGE IS 17.7%, WITH THE MAXIMUM BEING 40%. THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS I HAVE IN HERE 12FT, BUT IT'S 14FT.

I FOUND THAT OUT LATER FOR SURE.

SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS PROPOSAL AS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU DAVID KLEMPIN.

THE APPLICANT OR THE OWNER LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? YES. COME ON FORWARD THIS AND AUSTIN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

HI, MY NAME IS AUSTIN FLEMING.

IT'S AN HONOR TO STAND BEFORE YOU GUYS.

BEING A LOCAL GRAPEVINE KID, IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH DAVID AND PW TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FABRIC OF THE TOWN THAT SHAPED MY CHILDHOOD. SO WE HAD A LOT OF FUN WITH MARTIN ON THIS PROJECT AND HAVE DONE SEVERAL PROJECTS IN THE TOWNSHIP.

SO LOOKING FORWARD TO MANY MORE AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. FLEMING? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NICE WORK WITH YOUR DRAWINGS.

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ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVID? YEAH, I HAD ONE. DAVID, MIDDLE OF YOUR PARAGRAPH ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS SECTION.

THERE'S A TERM, A REVERSE FRONTAGE LOT.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS? I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT TERM.

THAT'S WHERE THE SIDE YARD HAS TO BE THE SAME AS THE FRONT.

LIKE IT'S A 30 FOOT SORRY, 30 FOOT SETBACK ON THE FRONT.

IT HAS TO BE A 30 FOOT ON THE SIDE.

SO IN REVIEW OF THIS WITH PLANNING AND ZONING, THIS WILL HAVE TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD FOR THE NONCOMPLIANCE OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE WHEN WHEN YOU WANT TO START ADDING ON TO THE HOUSE.

SO IT WAS PICKED UP BY PLANNING AND ZONING.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL ADDED TO THIS.

AT THE REQUEST OF PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR ERICA MORONIC, WHO WERE AN OVERLAY ON THAT ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING LEVEL OF REVIEW.

SO SHE PUT EXACTLY WHAT THE PARTICULAR THINGS ARE THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT.

OKAY. SO THERE WILL BE A CASE ON IT, NOT, I DON'T BELIEVE SO MUCH BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING IN THE BACK, BUT BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING HOUSE, ITS LOCATION.

SO ANY TIME YOU WANT TO ADD TO A NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE, YOU'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH THAT STEP HERE IN THE CITY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I MOVE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? THANK YOU, MARGARET. SECOND.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

MOTION PASSES.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CA 2352 WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED.

AND I'LL SECOND IT. THANK YOU, MARGARET.

THANK YOU, JIM. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

MOTION PASSES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AUSTIN.

THAT TAKES US DOWN TO OUR ITEM NUMBER FIVE, OUR MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH'S MEETING.

[5. Minutes A. Commission to consider the minutes of the August 23, 2023 Regular Meeting.]

I ALWAYS GET SUCH GREAT WORK BY CASEY.

WE APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU. ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.

I SECOND. THANK YOU.

MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

AND JUST SO YOU'RE NOT WORKING FOR FREE.

MISTER BOYLE, DO WE HAVE TO TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, OR CAN I JUST ADJOURN THE MEETING? YOU HAVE THE PREROGATIVE TO DECLARE THE MEETING ADJOURNED, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK I'M GOING TO START A NEW PRECEDENT.

SO THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? CHANGES.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.