Aug 23, 2023 Historic Preservation Commission

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BRINGS US TO OUR AUGUST 23RD MEETING.

[1. Call to Order]

SHORT MEETING AGENDA TONIGHT.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

MR. PAUL SCHLACHTER, AS ALWAYS, OUR CORPORATE ATTORNEY, MATTHEW BOYLE, CITY.

CITY ATTORNEY, THANKS FOR ALWAYS BEING ABLE TO KEEP US IN THE RAILS.

MONACO TELLING THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR OUR P AND Z LIAISON AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, P, W AND I SAVE HIM FOR LAST BECAUSE DON'T FORGET TO FILL OUT YOUR VOLUNTEER FORMS FOR GRAPE FEST.

OH, GOSH. IT'S NOT ONLY THE GREATEST FESTIVAL, ONE OF TWO GREAT FESTIVALS, BUT THE REQUIREMENTS OF VOLUNTEER PARTICIPATION IS JUST ENORMOUS. SO I'LL GET US STARTED AND UNDERWAY.

SO FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS HERE IS A CITIZEN COMMENTS AND ANY PERSON WHO IS NOT SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA MAY ADDRESS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION UNDER CITIZEN

[2. Citizen Comments]

AND MISS CASEY, IS THERE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? ANYBODY REGISTERED? I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP.

OKAY. TAKES US DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THAT'S OUR ELECTION OF OFFICE OFFICERS.

[3. Election of Officers]

WE'RE THRILLED. OKAY.

MAY I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SLATE? I'LL MOVE. THANK YOU.

SECOND. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

OKAY. MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU. TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS OUR WORK SESSION.

[4. Work Session]

MR. KLEMPIN, SIR. OKAY.

THE FIRST ONE IS 2259 B FOR THE PROPERTY AT 528 SOUTH DOOLEY AND THIS IS A CAR TO RELOCATE THE BACKUP EMERGENCY GENERATOR THAT WAS LOCATED IN ONE PART OF THE PROPERTY ON THE LANDMARK PROPERTY TO ANOTHER PART OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THAT WAS SO THAT THEY CAN CREATE A SWIMMING POOL BACK THERE AT THE OLD TED WILHOIT HOUSE ON DOOLEY STREET.

THANK YOU. TED WOULD BE AMAZED, I'M SURE.

YEAH, FOR SURE. IT'LL BE LIKE A LAP POOL BECAUSE THERE'S NOT VERY MUCH ROOM.

BUT OKAY THE NEXT ONE IS CA 2322 FOR 815 EAST TEXAS STREET.

AND THIS IS FOR REPAINTING THE HOUSE IN A NEW COLOR SCHEME.

AND THIS WAS THE DR.

EDITH PEWITT HOUSE.

THANK YOU, DAVID. LET ME SEE.

THAT SAID, THAT WAS THE MOST PLANTED ACRE IN THE.

THIS WAS HER HOUSE BEFORE SHE MOVED THERE.

OKAY. AND IT WAS.

THE NEXT ONE IS 23, 47 FOR THREE.

EXCUSE ME, 113 EAST TEXAS STREET.

AND THIS IS TO CONSTRUCT AN OUTDOOR KITCHEN AREA AND MORE DETAILS ON THE EXTERIOR PAINTING OF THE OLD POST OFFICE THAT'S LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED BY THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH.

THE NEXT ONE IS CA 2348 FOR PROPERTY AT 311 SOUTH MAIN AND THIS IS EXTERIOR PAINTING AT NAPOLI'S ITALIAN CAFE ON THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.

AND IF YOU'LL DRIVE BY THERE, THEY'VE CLEANED UP AND RESTORED THAT CONSIDERABLY.

IT LOOKS VERY NICE BACK THERE NOW.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT ONE IS CA 2349 FOR 211 EAST WALL STREET.

AND THIS IS FOR THE WINDOWS FOR THE HOUSE.

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THEN WE HAVE 2351 AT 104 JENKINS STREET, AND THIS IS THE OLD GRAPEVINE SUBS AND MORE.

THEY'RE GOING TO RENAME THE SHOP HAS A NEW NAME AND A NEW SIGN.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE CA TWO 2353 FOR 917 EAST FOURTH STREET AND THIS IS A LITTLE HOUSE ALL THE WAY AT THE END OF THE BLOCK IN THE BOX EDITION NEXT TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX WHERE THEY'RE REPLACING THE EXISTING CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH A SIX FOOT TALL CEDAR FENCE.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE, KA 2356 IS FOR 211 EAST WALL STREET.

AND THIS AGAIN IS MORE EXTERIOR MATERIALS FOR THAT HOUSE, INCLUDING IT HAS A BRICK WAINSCOTTING AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE HOUSE.

SO THIS IS THE ACME BRICK THAT WILL GO ON THAT WAINSCOTTING THANK YOU.

MR. KLEMPIN TAKES US DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA.

[5.A. Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness #CA23-39 for the property located at 825 East Worth Street, legally described as Block 5, Lot 12, D. E. Box Addition, City of Grapevine and take any necessary action.]

A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION REGARDING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA DURING THE COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION OF THE ITEM UPON BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIRMAN OR BY CONSENT OF THE COMMISSION UPON BEING RECOGNIZED, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM, MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE SPEAKING AND AGAIN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT, THE COMMISSION IS RESTRICTED IN DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION DURING CITIZEN COMMENTS AND NOW DECLARE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND.

2339 PLEASE SIR.

THE BACKGROUND ON THIS IS THAT THIS CA 2339 WAS SUBMITTED BACK IN JUNE BY THE OWNER, DON BOSCO, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ONE STORY HOUSE WITH A DETACHED GARAGE ON THE VACANT LOT THAT'S LOCATED IN THE BOX EDITION HISTORIC DISTRICT.

HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THAT LOT.

AND THEN HERE'S LIKE IN THE WINTER TIME, ANOTHER VIEW.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS ONE VACANT LOT HAS REMAINED VACANT ALL THESE YEARS FROM THE FOUNDING OF THE BOX EDITION IN 1948, AND IT WAS OWNED BY THE HOUSE IMMEDIATELY TO THE RIGHT OF THIS ONE.

FOR MANY YEARS, HELEN JEAN LUCAS REED ALSO OWNED IT IN THE BEGINNING AND DID NOT USE IT.

AND I THINK AT THAT TIME THIS NEIGHBORING PROPERTY PURCHASED THAT LOT AND IT'S JUST BEEN HELD ALL THESE YEARS.

SO DON BOSCO PURCHASED IT SOME YEARS BACK AND HAD ANOTHER SET OF PLANS DRAWN.

BUT AT THAT TIME, THEY WERE UNAWARE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SETBACKS THAT YOU SEE THERE, THE SETBACKS FROM THE FOR ALL THE HOUSES ALONG THERE ARE BETWEEN 50 AND 60FT BACK FROM THE STREET.

SO THIS NEW PLAN THAT THEY HAVE WORKED OUT THAT MEETS THEIR NEEDS DOES FALL BEHIND THAT SETBACK LINE.

SO THIS HOUSE WILL NOW BE IN LINE WITH OTHER HOMES.

SO THE PROPOSED PLANS WERE DEVELOPED BY THE ARCHITECT, RUSSELL MORAN, FOLLOWING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE 2013-23 PRESERVATION ORDINANCE AND THE GUIDELINES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED FOR DE BOX EDITION HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THE HOUSE FEATURES TRADITIONAL STYLING WITH A BRICK VENEER EXTERIOR, A HIP ROOF THAT WOULD HELP BLEND WITH THIS PART OF THE BLOCK ON EAST WOOD STREET, THE HOUSE HAS A LARGE LIVING AND DINING SPACE WITH ADJOINING KITCHEN.

THERE ARE THREE BEDROOMS AND TWO AND A HALF BATHS.

THE HOUSE CONTAINS 3356FT² OF LIVING AREA, WHICH IS IN THE MAXIMUM OF 3400 ALLOWED BY THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.

THE THIS HOUSE WOULD HAVE A COVERED FRONT PORCH OF 139FT² AND A COVERED REAR PATIO OF 285FT².

WHEN THESE DO NOT COUNT IN THAT MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, HERE IS A VIEW OF THE HOUSE TO THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT OF THAT

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THEN HERE'S THE NEW SITE PLAN AND YOU CAN SEE IT HAS A DETACHED TWO CAR GARAGE TO THE REAR.

THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE HOUSE.

SO IT'S A MODERN FLOOR PLAN WHERE THERE'S A LARGE LIVING DINING AREA AND KITCHEN AND THEN THE BEDROOMS ARE KIND OF ON THE WHICH WOULD BE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

AND THEN THERE'S TWO PROJECTING ROOM SPACES IN THE FRONT AND THE RECESSED PORCH ON THE FRONT AND THEN A RECESSED COVERED PATIO IN THE REAR.

THIS IS THE ROOF PLAN.

AND THEN HERE ARE ELEVATIONS ON TOP.

THAT'S THE FRONT VIEW.

AND THEN THE REAR, THE REAR VIEW AND SIDE VIEWS.

THERE IS A SIDE DOORWAY ALONG THE DRIVEWAY TO ALLOW THEY COULD DROP OFF GROCERIES AND THINGS FOR THE KITCHEN OR DROP OFF THINGS TO GO INSIDE THE HOUSE RIGHT THERE.

SEE THEN HERE'S THE IN THE REAR.

THERE'S A TWO CAR GARAGE WITH STORAGE AREA ABOVE, AND THEN THEY'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE TO CONNECT THE 200 SQUARE FOOT STORAGE SPACE ONTO THE BACK OF THE GARAGE.

SO THIS LOT IS 15,040FT².

AND SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCE TO DEVELOP THE 740 SQUARE FOOT DETACHED GARAGE, WHICH WOULD IT'S LOCATED IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, AS YOU SEE HERE BEHIND THE HOUSE.

SO YOU REALLY WOULD NOT SEE THIS WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN THE STREET BECAUSE IT'S BEHIND THE HOUSE.

IT REQUIRES THE VARIANCE TO BE GRANTED BY THE COMMISSION TO COMBINE THE 500FT² THAT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE FOR THE GARAGE, 200FT² OF STORAGE BUILDING THAT'S ALLOWED FOR THE PROPERTY, COMBINING THOSE TOGETHER AND THEN 40FT² OF THE LIVING AREA THAT'S NOT BEING USED IN THE HOUSE.

AND THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSE LIVING AREA AND GARAGE WORKSHOP TOTALS 4090FT², WHICH IS WITHIN THE MAXIMUM OF 4100FT² ALLOWED BY THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.

THE BUILDING HEIGHT WOULD BE 23FT AND THE LOT COVERAGE 30% AND THE MAXIMUM IS 40%.

SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS OF THIS PROPOSAL FOR THE NEW HOME FOR THE LOBOSCO FAMILY. THANK YOU.

MR. DAVID KLEMPIN IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO SPEAK? YES, WE HAVE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO? IF YOU COULD COME UP.

SORRY, SIR. YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THE PROJECT? I WASN'T. IT'S NO PROBLEM.

JUST AN OPPORTUNITY. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JUST SAY A FEW WORDS.

YOU BET. MY NAME IS KYLE HARPER.

I HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF BEING DON BOSCO'S HUSBAND.

NICE. AND WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS, KYLE? OH, UH, MY CURRENT ADDRESS.

OUR CURRENT ADDRESS IS 1320 BONHAM A M PARKWAY.

THANK YOU. LANTANA, TEXAS.

UM, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO FINALLY BE AT THIS POINT AND UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS AND BEING AT THE POINT WHERE WE CAN PERHAPS PROCEED RELATIVELY SHORTLY AND ACTUALLY START BREAKING GROUND ON THIS FOR OUR BASICALLY OUR FOREVER HOME.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING IN NOT ONLY IN GRAPEVINE BUT BUT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND WALK DOWN TO ESPARZA'S AND WHENEVER WE HAVE GUESTS COMING DOWN.

SO IT'S IT'S OUR FOREVER HOME AND IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL WORKING WITH DAVID AND UNDERSTANDING ALL THE PROCESS HE HAD MENTIONED YOU KNOW, THAT THAT THE ORIGINAL PLANS WERE WERE NOT IN LINE WITH THE WITH THE SETBACK LINE.

AND IT WAS NO PROBLEM THAT WHEN WE DID FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE SETBACK WAS, THAT WAS PART OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT'S OVERLAY ON TOP OF THE BUILDING CODE, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR FOR Y'ALL.

BUT ONCE WE UNDERSTOOD THAT, THEN IT'S LIKE, OKAY, NOW, DAWN HAD A FEW MORE TWEAKS TO THE FLOOR PLAN THAT SHE WANTED ANYWAY, SO IT IT WORKED OUT FOR EVERYBODY.

SO I'M JUST HERE TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT OF THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT HOW THINGS GET DONE HERE IN GRAPEVINE, BUT ALSO TO BE AVAILABLE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL REGARDING THE REGARDING THE HOUSE.

THANK YOU, KYLE. THAT'S IT.

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I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE THREE DORMER WINDOWS ON THE BACK? I THINK THAT THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING TO ALLOW LIGHT INTO THAT ROOM IS RATHER BIG INSIDE AND THEY THEY DID NOT.

I REMEMBER IN THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS THEY DIDN'T REALLY LIKE THE USE OF SKYLIGHTS.

SO THAT WILL ACTUALLY ALLOW LIGHT INTO FROM THE NORTH SIDE INTO THAT LARGE SPACE INSIDE.

THESE ARE GOING TO BE MORE LIKE CLERESTORY WINDOWS.

THEY'RE THEY'RE LIKE THEY'RE LIKE DORMERS.

I MEAN, THEY'RE LIKE DORMER WINDOWS.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROJECT OUT OF THE TOP OF THE ROOF.

YOU REALLY WON'T SEE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE BACK OF THE THEY'RE ON THE BACK, WHICH I THOUGHT THAT WAS BECAUSE YOU SEE DORMERS ARE ON THE FRONT.

YEAH. BUT THE ROOMS IN THE BACK SO THEY'RE JUST IT'S JUST A TECHNIQUE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU USE.

AND THEN IT'S A TRADITIONAL STYLE, YOU KNOW, DETAIL.

AND THEN UNDERNEATH EACH DORMER.

IS THAT A LARGE WINDOW? YES. LIKE, OR LIKE A SLIDING GLASS DOOR OR SOMETHING.

PLATE GLASS WINDOWS.

OKAY. I JUST IT JUST SEEMED RATHER INCONGRUOUS THAT THEY WERE ON THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND.

WELL, IT WAS YOU SEE THEM ON A TWO STORY HOUSE AS OPPOSED TO A ONE.

YEAH. BUT IT'S A TRADITIONAL DETAIL THAT FITS WITH THE HOUSE.

LIKE. YEAH, YOU MIGHT HAVE EXPECTED IT TO SEE IT ON THE FRONT, BUT WHERE THEY NEEDED TO GET THE LIGHT IN WAS ON THE BACK AND, AND THEY DID NOT LIKE SKYLIGHTS AND THAT HAD BEEN TOLD TO ME SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO USE SKYLIGHTS SO THEY COULD USE THAT.

AND I SAID, WELL, SURE, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER WAY OF GETTING LIGHT IN THERE, ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU, MARGARET. OTHER QUESTIONS? I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOTION SECOND. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS CA 23-39.

THANK YOU, MARGARET. MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND MOTION PASSES.

MR. KYLE, CONGRATULATIONS.

YOUR APPLICATION IS APPROVED, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AT ESPARZA'S.

THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES.

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ANY CORRECTIONS THAT YOU GUYS SAW? SAME WITH ME. I DID NOT SEE ANY.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE JULY 26TH MEETING.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'LL SECOND.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

MOTION PASSES.

AND THAT BRINGS US TO OUR FINAL ITEM OF ADJOURNMENT.

I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN.

MOTION SECOND BY SECOND.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ALL IN FAVOR.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION AND ATTENDANCE.

Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.