[00:00:03]
>> ALL THE BRIEFING ORDER TO OUR AGENDA.
[CALL TO ORDER]
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
[BACKGROUND]>> GOOD EVENING. WE HAVE FIVE JOINT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, THE FIRST OF WHICH WAS A CASE THAT WAS TABLED FROM YOUR JULY 18TH MEETING.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4700 STATE HIGHWAY 360.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 5.75 ACRES WHICH IS PRESENTLY ZONED PCD OR PLANNED COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO RESELL THE PROPERTY TO R-5.01 ZERO-LOT-LINE DISTRICT.
THE INTENT OF WHICH IS TO DEVELOP A SINGLE-FAMILY SUBDIVISION OF 21 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL OFFICE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS THAT THE WEST SIDE OF STATE HIGHWAY 360.
HAS APPROXIMATELY 1,000 FEET NORTH OF LAKE ROAD TO THE SOUTH, AND THE CITY LIMITS LIE ADJACENT TO THE CITY OF YOUR LIST.
THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION IS PROPOSED TO FUTURE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PROVIDING ACCESS FROM THE FRONTAGE ROAD INTO THE SITE KNOWN AS OATMEAL DRIVE, GIVES ME ACCESS TO THE 21 RESIDENTIAL BLOCKS AS SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE, WHICH IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE REASON FOR REQUEST.
THIS PROPERTY IS REMAINED UNDEVELOPED.
AS PROPERTY AROUND IT HAS DEVELOPED.
IN 2010, THERE WAS A REASON FOR THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS CHANGED FROM PLANNED COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT TO ZERO-LOT-LINE DISTRICT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 66 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED PLOTS, WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS SUBDIVISION.
[2. Invocation and Pledge of Allegiance]
THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH AND INTO THE WEST HAS A PRIVATE TREAT SUBDIVISION.THEN IN 2012, THAT PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH WAS REZONED AGAIN FOR PCD TO R-5.01 ZERO-LOT-LINE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A C9 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, BOX IS PART OF THAT SUBDIVISION.
SUBJECT PROPERTIES FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMMERCIAL, LOW-INTENSITY PLACES FOR [INAUDIBLE].
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPERTY?
>> QUESTIONS. [OVERLAPPING] QUESTIONS.
>> SAY YES, READING COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE, SO FAR HAS A DRAINAGE AREA, WHICH IF IT BACK THERE, THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THERE'S ALMOST DOUBLE BONDS BACK THERE.
>> THAT AREAS HAS DRAINAGE EASEMENT FLOODPLAIN.
THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT AN AREA WHICH CAN BE BUILT WITHIN FROM THE BACK-END.
>> THERE'S A SMALL CREEK THAT GOES BACK TO THAT HAVE BEEN TRAINED SINCE IT THE TEXTILE RIGHT AWAY.
>> THE ASSUMPTION IS THERE'S NO DRAINAGE ISSUES BASED UPON THAT?
>> THERE'S A PULMONARY FINAL PLAT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS AS WELL.
THE PROPERTY HASN'T BEEN PLANTED BEFORE, SO PUBLIC HEARING IS NOT NEEDED FOR IT.
WELL, THERE'S 21 LAOS IS THE ZONING DOES NOT GET APPROVED AND DO NOT SPEND THE NIGHT IN THE PLANET, BUT IT WAS PRE-RECORDING. [BACKGROUND]
[3. Zoning Change Application Z23-01, Concept Plan CP23-01 (Oak Hill), Preliminary Plat for Lots 1-21, Block 1, Oak Hill and Final Plat for Lots 1-21, Block 1, Oak Hill – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by 360 Land Partners, LLC requesting to rezone 5.75 acres from “PCD”, Planned Commerce Development District to “R5.0”, Zero-Lot-Line District, and to plat 21 lots. The subject property is located at 4700 State Highway 360. The public hearing was tabled from the July 18, 2023 Joint Meeting.]
>> THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS BOTH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST AND ESPECIALLY THIS PLANET REQUESTS FOR EVA ESPORTS THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2230 WILLIAM D.
TATE AVENUE AND CC OR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THIS IS YOUR REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THEIR POSSESSION, STORAGE, RETAIL SALE, AND ON AND OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESTAURANT, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW EIGHT OR MORE SILVER COIN OPERATED MACHINES IN MOTION WITH THE OVERALL USE OF THE PROPERTY AS A VIRTUAL GAMING ARENA.
THIS PROPERTY IS THE FORMER STATE LAND SKATING RINK HAS DEVELOPED SUCH.
THE APPLICANT IS INTENDING HER REUSE THE EXISTING BUILDING TO ESTABLISH AN E-SPORTS VIRTUAL TRAINING FACILITY.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE FLOOR PLAN THAT'S PROVIDED IN YOUR MATERIALS, IT WILL FEATURE THREE INDOOR GAMING ARENAS GOING 18,829 SQUARE FT.
[00:05:08]
THERE'S ALSO A PROPOSED 3,700 SQUARE FT RESTAURANT WITH FOREIGN KITCHEN, AND THEN ALSO A 2,400 SQ FT GAME AREA FOR THOSE DID THE COIN OR SKILL OPERATED MACHINES LIKE AN ARCANE STYLE GAMES.THE DINING AREA COMES IN A TOTAL OF 135 SEATS WITHIN THE ARENA.
AS MENTIONED, THERE'S THREE SEPARATE AREAS WHICH WILL HAVE ROOM FOR PLAYERS TO ACCOMMODATE A MAXIMUM OF 36 PLAYERS WITH NO MORE THAN 12 PLAYERS PER ARENA.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXISTING MAIN ENTRY LOCATED ON THE EAST ELEVATION.
THERE'S ALSO AN EXISTING 19 FOOT TALL POLE SIGN THAT IS PROPOSED TO REMAIN.
THE ONLY CHANGES INCLUDE REAR-FACING OF THAT WHOLE SIGN, ADJACENT TIVOLI.
TOTAL THE PARKING FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AS 159 PARKING SPACES AND THERE'S 129.
THERE ARE NO OTHER EXTERIOR CHANGES PROPOSED WITH THIS CONDITION, ESPECIALLY IN THESE REQUESTS.
>> ACCESS TO REMAIN OFF OF WILLIAM D.
TATE THROUGH NEUTRAL AXIS AND FROM PERSONAL DRIVE TO THE WEST.
THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT REUSE AND REPURPOSE MEANT FOR THIS PROPERTY?
>> YOU HAVE TO SPEED ON THAT PAUL SIGN, I NEGLECT, PROBABLY THAT WAY, FOR SOME REASON.
>> THE HEIGHT STAYS THE SAME IN THE EFFECTIVE AREA.
THE SIGN WILL STAY THE SAME, IT WON'T INCREASE IN SIZE, YOU'RE JUST REALLY FACING THEIR BRANDING AND COMPANY WILL GO.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE VIRTUAL REALITY ARENAS IS NO MORE THAN 12 PEOPLE PER ARENA, BUT WHAT ARE THOSE LIKE? I DON'T SEE ANY BOUNDARIES OR ANYTHING, THESE PLANS, IT JUST I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
>> NO. GOOD VIDEO BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN IT.
WHILE IT'S GOING ON, THEY HAVE THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS.
CAN'T BE MORE THAN 12 LIKE YOU SAID, BUT YOU HAVE THESE ON AND YOU HAVE BARRIERS.
IT'S VERY STRANGE, LIKE THEY WOULDN'T BE CROSSING OVER INTO THE OTHER PERSON'S AREA.
>> IS IT A HEARTBEAT OR A WALL?
>> HOW DOES THE BANK YOU'RE VISUALIZING AND VR GOGGLES.
YOU CAN WALK ALL OVER THE PLACE.
EACH ARENA IS ABOUT 5,500 SQUARE FT.
>> YOU DON'T REALLY GO, YOU DON'T USE A LOT OF IT.
>> YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE IN SOME PLACES.
>> THERE'S ONE IN FLORIDA HAVE VOYAGE.
>> THEY WILL, YES, THEY HAVE A POWERPOINT.
>> NEXT REQUEST IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE GAYLORD TEXAN.
THIS IS FURTHER PROPERTY LOCATED AT 816 RUTH WALL ROAD.
IT'S PRESENTLY SO IN PCB FOR COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE IMMEDIATELY CROSS FROM DUBLIN ROAD.
THIS IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE ACRES AS PART OF THE OLD WAGON WHEEL PROPERTY.
THEY ARE PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A TEMPORARY 700 SPACE LIGHT AND GRAVEL PARKING LOT ON THE EAST SIDE OF RUTH WALL ROAD WITHIN THE FORMER WAGON REAL PROPERTY.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS PARKING LOT, YOU CAN SEE NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT OF YOUR SCREEN.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS PARKING LOT IS TO ACCOMMODATE OVERFLOW GUESTS PARKING FOR THE GAYLORD TEXTAN SPECIAL EVENTS.
THINGS LIKE THE ICE EVENT DURING CHRISTMAS, CAPITAL OF TEXAS.
THE APPLICANT BELIEVES THAT THE OPERATIONAL TIME FRAME THAT'S NEEDED FOR THIS TEMPORARY PARKING LOT IS BETWEEN 5-8 YEARS.
THE SITE HAS APPROXIMATELY 841 LINEAR FEET OF FRONTAGE ALONG IT'S WALL WITH AN EXISTING DRIVER CARTILAGE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM DOVE LOOP ROAD, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE OR AGAINST YOUR RIGHT OF YOUR SCREEN.
THEY HAVEN'T EXISTING DR. APPROACH AND THEN WE CONSTRUCTED A LONGER CONCRETE DRIVEWAY.
THERE'S AN EXISTING BARBED WIRE FENCE THROUGH SOME CHANGES TO THE BARBED WIRE FENCING INTERNALLY, AND THEY WILL ALSO CONSTRUCT A SWINGING IN THIS AREA AS PART OF SOME OF THE OTHER TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENTS.
[00:10:02]
AND IT INCLUDES 124 SQUARE FOOT FOR DEPENDENT CHILDREN, LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE, WHICH IS NEAR THE DRIVEWAY.AND THEN 219 SQUARE FOOT PORTABLE WEATHER SHELTER LOCATED ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PARKING LOT TO BOTH HORSE AND PARKING LOT WAS SECURED BY THAT EXISTING BARBED WIRE FENCE OVER THE WALL AND THEN INTERNAL PARK LOT FENCE.
>> THE TERM TEMPORARY LOSES ITS VALUE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EIGHT YEARS.
I GUESS IT ALSO WILL IMPLY THERE ARE SOME FUTURE PLAN. WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
>> I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE FUTURE PLANS TO EXPAND BOTH GUESTS ROOMS AND CONVENTION SPACE AND PARKING ON THE GAYLORD PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
THE TIMING OF THAT, I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES WITH A DETAILED ANSWER.
BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FORMAL SETTLEMENTS IN HERE.
>> DOES IT TELL US HOW IT ALL COMBINED FOCUSED ON?
>> I GUESS. TURN TO I THINK IT'S PAGE 5.
IT SHOWS THE STANDARD DIMENSIONS.
I ONLY SAY THEY WERE FOR THE HEIGHT.
IT'S THE VERY LAST FIVE OR SIX PAGES.
>> SPECIAL TECHNIQUES IN DATA.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A SECURE SECURITY BOX AT THE ENTRANCE.
THEN DOES IT HAVE ANY HINTS ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE?
>> NOT THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.
>> THE SECOND QUESTION IS YOU SAID THERE SAYS COVERS, WHAT WAS THE TWO OTHER THINGS? THERE ARE SHELTERS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE WAITING FOR THE TROLLEY FOR THE SHUTTLE TO COME AND PICK THEM UP IF IT'S RAINING OR IF IT'S BAD WEATHER.
THERE'S TWO ALONG THE PERIMETER OR BY 16.
THE ATTENDANT SHELTER THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IS RIGHT HERE AND IT'S A FOUR BY SIX IS PRETTY SMALL LITTLE COUNTRY.
>> BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ELEPHANT GUESTS WHETHER SHELTERS LOOK LIKE EITHER.
>> THEY ARE JUST SMALL COVERED ALMOST LIKE.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
>> WHAT ARE THEY DOING? WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN NOTED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR OTHER EVENTS WHERE THOSE DONOR CARD THEN?
>> THEY HAVE LEASED SPACE OVER TIME THAT'S SMALL.
>> EIGHT YEARS IS A LONG TIME.
WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE PLAN FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO DO TO OPEN IT? IF THERE'S PUTTING IT IN ALL WEATHER, PARKING LOT, WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT UP? WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF JUST GOING THROUGH THE HOMEWORK MONTH.
>> THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE LARGER PROPERTIES IS 27 ACRES WILL CONTINUE TO BE USED.
THEY ARE JUST USING A PORTION AS A TEMPORARY AGAIN, I THINK THOSE ARE ALL GREAT QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
>> I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION. IS THIS WHAT I SAID EARLIER ARE THEY ONLY GOING TO USE IT DURING A CERTAIN TIME OF THE SEASON DURING THE IS WHICH IS?
>> IT'D GATED OFF AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE FOR PEAK TIMES.
I SAID, ANY OTHER WHICH THEY CAN PROBABLY ANSWER SOME OF THOSE PEAK TIMES, BUT IT WILL BE GATED OFF.
IT WON'T BE USED ALL THE TIME.
>> THE INTENT IS REALLY TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO PARK HERE.
THEY GET PICKED UP BY A SHOVEL OR TROLLEY AND THEN GO UP WITH BALL TOWARDS THE BACK ENTRANCE THEN SOME OFTEN COME BACK.
>> THEY'VE HAD SOME THE APPLICANT HAS SAID THAT THEY HAD SOME ISSUES WITH
[00:15:01]
EMPLOYEES TRYING TO GET TO WORK DURING THOSE PEAK TIMES BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A BACKUP.THIS WOULD BE A GOOD REMEDY FOR THAT, FOR EMPLOYEES TO PARK HERE GET SHUTTLED OVER AS WELL.
THAT WOULD HELP RELIEVE THAT SITUATION.
>> THIS WILL BE FOR EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS.
>> THE SECOND REQUESTS FROM THE GAYLORD TEXAN IS FOR THEIR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1501, PORTRAYAL ALSO ZONES PLAINTIFF POLYMER SKELETON DISTRICT.
THIS WAS TO AMEND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT A NEW CAR.
LET'S TRY WHAT DO YOU OFFER FREE FOR ALL TYPES OF PROPERTY FOR USE BY THE TROLLEYS OR SHUTTLES THAT WE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY WITH THE LAST PIECE AND ALSO WORKED EMERGENCY ACCESS FOR CITY OF POLICE AND FIRE.
THEY WERE NOT PROPER FOR LACK OF A BETTER PHRASE.
THE LOCATION IS RIGHT HERE ON THEIR OVERALL MASTER SITE PLAN, OUTLINED IN RED.
ESSENTIALLY, THEY WOULD BE REMOVING 30 LINEAR FEET OF AN EXISTING SIX-FOOT CONCRETE BLOCK SCREENING WALL ADJACENT TO REVOLT ROAD AND GAYLORD LOADING DOCK AREA TO CONSTRUCT A 24 FOOT CONCRETE ACCESS DRIVEWAY, TWO RITUAL ROAD ON THE EXISTING NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY.
THE NEW ACCESS IS PRODUCED BY THE LORD FOR VEHICLES SUCH AS SUDDEN SHUTTLES AND THEN ALSO THOSE EMERGENCY SERVICES VEHICLES.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A SIX-FOOT AND METAL DOORS SWING GAIT THAT WAS SWING TO THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY CAN BE USED TO CLOSE OFF THIS ACCESS AT NON-PEAK TIMES DURING THE YEAR.
SO AGAIN, DURING THIS SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE ICE DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
THE NEW ACCESS WILL MAINTAIN A 10 FOOT BY 10 FOOT DISABILITY TRIANGLE ALONG THE DRIVE APPROACH TO PREVENT ANY OBSTRUCTIONS.
THEN ANY OF THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S THERE TODAY, IF IT'S REMOVED DURING CONSTRUCTION, WILL BE REPLACED UPON COMPLETION OF THE NEW ACCESS, TRAIL DRIVEWAY.
>> CLEANS UP SOME TRAFFIC IN THE CORNER.
I CONSTANTLY AM TRUCKS IN AND OUT OF THERE.
THAT'S WHAT EXTRACTOR HOLD QUESTIONS.
>> THEN THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR FERRARI'S THREE BARRELS BEER GARDEN LOCATED AT 1,200 WILLIAM D. TATE AVENUE, PRESENTLY ZONED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THIS REQUEST IS TO AMEND THEIR EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PLAN COMMERCIAL CENTER.
THEY HAVE FOR POSSESSION, STORAGE, RETAIL SALE ON AN ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
THIS REQUEST IS SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF TWO OUTDOOR PERGOLAS, ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SEATING, SOME OUTDOOR SPEAKERS, AND AN EIGHT FOOT TALL SCREENING FENCE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXISTING RESTAURANT.
HERE'S THE LOCATION WITH 1,200 WILLIAM D. TATE.
YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE PROPOSED ADDITIONS AND THE TO PERGOLAS ARE HERE ALONG THE SITES AND SUDDEN ELEVATION.
THE APPLICANT INTENDS FOR SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING TWO PERGOLAS, ONE, 262 SQUARE FEET, THE OTHER BEING 477 SQUARE FEET FOR A TOTAL OF 739 SQUARE FEET.
EACH OF THESE ARE 10 FEET IN HEIGHT.
THEY HAVE ONE EXISTING OUTDOOR SPEAKER HERE.
THEY ARE PROPOSING SIX NEW ONES ON EACH ON THESE NEW PERGOLAS, NOT EACH BUT TOTAL WAS SEVEN, WITH THE ONE EXISTING.
THEY ARE ALSO ADDING 54 OUTDOOR SEATS.
THEN WHEN THE WOODEN SCREEN FENCE.
IT'S THE SCREEN LINE, YOU SEE RIGHT HERE IN THE FLOOR PLAN.
TOTAL SEATS PROPOSED AS 370 SEATS, 250 ARE INSIDE OF 120 ARE OUTDOORS, TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING IS ON 124.
THEY HAVE 138 SPACES EXISTING ON THEIR SITE PLAN.
THEY HAVE MORE THAN [INAUDIBLE].
>> WHICH WAY ARE THE SPEAKERS POINTING DOWN OR UP? [LAUGHTER] THAT IS ALL.
>> TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE RESTAURANT?
[00:20:13]
THEY ARE RIGHT BEHIND BAJA.>> THERE IS A LIST OF PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
>> NO. I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE SUB-COMMITTEE ON THE COMMUNITY BYLAWS ARE BEEN WORKED ON PUTTING THOSE INTO SHRANK UNDERLYING PERMITS INTO THE CITY ATTORNEY WITH HIS REVIEW LAST AND WE HOPE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK THIS NEXT WEEK.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING SINCE WORKSHOP ON THE FIRST ON SOME AMENDMENTS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS MAYBE CHARGING STATIONS, SO WE HOPE TO HAVE AND REVIEW THOSE THIS WEEK AS A TEAM AND TO GET BACK IN A FUTURE WORKSHOP OR BRIEFING SESSIONS AND ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON THE ENTIRE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
>> WE'LL ADJOURN THE BRIEFING.
>> THE SESSION THAT BEGAN AT 7:00.
MR. BROWN, BELOW ANY ACTION OF THE COUNCIL AS A RESULT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION?
>> YES, YOUR HONOR. WE WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ACQUISITION OF THE WALL'S STREET EASEMENT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE SAME AND TAKE ALL OTHER NECESSARY ACTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.
THAT COMPLETES THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
>> MR. LORES YOU'RE READY? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL CALL THE 7:30 MEETING TO ORDER.
I ASK YOU TO RISE FOR THE INVITATION AND PLEDGE FROM MR. DENNIS LORES.
>> LET US PRAY. DEAR LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS THAT WE ENJOY LIVING HERE IN THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE.
WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDING HAND AND LEAD US TO THE MEETING TONIGHT.
WE ALWAYS ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR FELLOW CITIZENS.
WE PRAY FOR PEACE IN OUR COUNTRY AND ABROAD.
WE PRAY FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THE WILDFIRES AND MOWING.
WE ASK FOR YOUR PROTECTION FOR OUR CITIZENS AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR MILITARY.
WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME, AMEN.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WELCOME TO OUR MEETING TONIGHT WITH FIRST FIVE JOINT PUBLIC HEARINGS BETWEEN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL WILL DECLARE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON EACH INDIVIDUAL CASE, WILL ALLOW OUR STAFF TO MAKE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE REQUEST'S BEEN MADE.
THE APPLICANT WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO ANY OF THESE ITEMS, YOU'RE NOT AN APPLICANT, YOU NEED TO REGISTER WITH MISS.
BROOKS. SHE WILL CALL ON YOU AND THE ORDER THAT YOU REGISTER AND THAT WAY WE HAVE A RECORD OF YOUR PARTICIPATION.
AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE CLOSED, PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL WILL SEPARATE INTO SEPARATE MEETINGS.
PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING ROOM WILL BE TO THE RIGHT.
THAT'S A PUBLIC MEETING, YOU'RE ENTITLED TO BE A PART OF THAT OR YOU CAN REMAIN HERE AND BE A PART OF THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
WITH THAT, [NOISE] I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONING APPLICATION, Z23- 01, CONCEPT PLAN CP 2301, PRELIMINARY PLAN AND QUANTILE PLOTS OF LAW 1 THROUGH 21, BLOCK 1 OR THE OAK HILL EDITION.
ERICA MAHRONIC FROM OUR STAFF WILL MAKE THE INTRODUCTION.
>> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT 4,700 STATE HIGHWAY 360 AND IS PROPOSED TO BE PLOTTED AS THE OAK HILL SUBDIVISION.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO RE-ZONE APPROXIMATELY 5.75 ACRES FROM ITS EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT OF PCD, PLANNED COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO AN R5.O0 LOT LINE
[00:25:03]
DISTRICT WITH THE INTENT TO DEVELOP 21 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL LOTS.THE SUBJECT SIDE IS OUT THE WEST SIDE OF STATE HIGHWAY 360 AND HAS APPROXIMATELY 1,018 FEET NORTH OF GLADE ROAD IN THE CITY LIMITS, ADJACENT TO THE CITY OF ULYSSES.
THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WILL FEATURE NEW PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, OAK HILL DRIVE PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THE APPLICANTS CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE ZONING EXHIBIT ILLUSTRATES THE VIABILITY OF A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION RELATIVE TO BUILDING COVERAGE, PLACEMENTS, IMPERVIOUS LOT COVERAGE, AND OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS REMAINED UNDEVELOPED FOR A TIME AS THE SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH OF IT AND WEST OF IT WAS DEVELOPED IN 2010 WITH A ZONE CHANGE AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVER THE LATE REQUESTS TO ZERO-LOT-LINE DISTRICT FOR 66 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED LOT'S KNOWN AS THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS SUBDIVISION.
THE SUBDIVISION TO THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH WAS APPROVED IN 2012 FOR ZONE CHANGE TO ZERO-LOT-LINE DISTRICT AND DEVELOPED WITH 69 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED LOTS ON NOVEMBER 20, OF 2012.
THE SUBJECT'S PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL LOW-INTENSITY LAND USE ON MAP 2 OF THE CITY'S LAND USE PLAN OF THE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES, MR. JOSH AND JAKE BORN, ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT TO YOU AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT BOTH THE COUNCIL AND COMMISSION THEY HAVE.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JAKE BORN 3613 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.
MAYOR TATE AND THE CITY COUNCIL, CHAIRMAN OLIVER, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE TO OUR CITY.
WE ARE REQUESTING A REZONE OF THIS 5.75 ACRE TRACT. I'M SORRY.
TO TWENTY ONE LOT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SOME OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT A FORESTED AREA.
WHAT WE PLAN TO DO WITH THIS 21 LOT DEVELOPMENT IS WHILE IT IS RESIDENTIAL 5.0 LOT LINE DISTRICT.
I THINK A DISTINCTIVE IS THAT OVER 70% OF OUR LOTS ARE ACTUALLY 5,500 SQUARE FEET OR BIGGER.
THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN R-5.0, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
NONE OF OUR LOTS ARE THAT SMALL.
BUT THE THING THAT I THINK IS EVEN MORE NOTABLE IS THAT OUR AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS ACTUALLY 10,100 SQUARE FEETS.
OVER DOUBLE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT.
AS YOU SAW IN THE FIRST PICTURE, WE HAVE A LOT OF TREES, WHICH WE THINK IS A HUGE ATTRIBUTE FOR US ON THIS SITE.
WE PLAN TO INCORPORATE AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE.
WE'VE GOT VARYING LOT SIZES AND SHAPES AS WELL.
I THINK WITH MOST DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE SEEING NOWADAYS, ESPECIALLY IN DFW AND EVEN IN GRAPEVINE.
MOST OF THE PLANTS YOU SEE, LOOK LIKE THEY WERE DESIGNED ON A PIECE OF GRAPH PAPER.
EVERYTHING IS THE EXACT SAME SIZE, THE EXACT SAME DIMENSIONS.
WE FEEL LIKE THAT ALSO ENHANCES [NOISE] WHAT WE HOPE TO DO HERE, HAVING VARIATION AND LOT SIZES AND SHAPES AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS.
WE REALLY GOING BACK TO THE TREES.
WE WANT TO DEVELOP A SITE THAT WHERE THE HOUSES SIT WITHIN THE TREES RATHER THAN A FEW TREES SITTING IN FRONT OF SOME HOUSES.
WE PLAN TO UTILIZE THAT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
FROM A COMPATIBILITY STANDPOINT, AS YOU SEE HERE, WE ARE ENVELOPED BY R-5.0, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
ADDITIONALLY, A QUARTER ACRE TO THE NORTH.
THERE'S AN EVEN NEWER DEVELOPMENT CALLED EASTWOOD'S, WHICH IS ALSO R-5.0.
WE FEEL WITHIN THIS CONTEXT THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD FIT IN AND THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE AS A RESIDENTIAL 5.0 DEVELOPMENT.
UPPER HOUSE HERE, AS YOU MAY KNOW, OUR REQUEST WAS TABLED LAST MONTH.
WE GOT WORD FROM THE CITY THE DAY BEFORE THIS MEETING LAST MONTH THAT THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION AND CONCERN FROM THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.
MY BROTHER JOSH AND I, TABLED THE REQUEST AND WE HAD A MEETING WITH STONE BRIDGE OAKS AND GLADE HILL ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO AT THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE SPEND ABOUT [NOISE] TWO HOURS WITH THOSE FOLKS AND WENT THROUGH ALL THEIR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS, PRESENTED OUR PROPOSAL TO THEM.
I THINK BY AND LARGE, WE'RE ABLE TO ALLAY MANY OF THE FEARS OF THOSE FOLKS.
[00:30:01]
CERTAINLY THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE OPPOSED NO MATTER WHAT.PRIMARILY, THE TREES WERE ONE OF THE CHIEF CONCERNS AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND I THINK I'VE ADDRESSED THAT ALREADY WITH YOU GUYS.
BUT I'D SAY BY ENLARGE, MOST FOLKS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT PROXIMITY AND PRIVACY.
[NOISE] I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT JUST FOR A MOMENT.
WHEN IT COMES TO STONE BRIDGE OAKS, WHO'S TO OUR NORTH AND WEST OUR ENGINEERS PROVIDED THIS CROSS-SECTION.
IF THIS WERE APPROVED, WE WOULD CUT OUR ROAD IN AND WHERE THAT BLUE LINE IS AND THAT BLUE ARROW, THAT WOULD BE OUR FINISHED PAD HEIGHT.
THAT'S AT AN ELEVATION OF 564 FEET.
STONE BRIDGE OAKS THEY'RE FINISHED PAD HEIGHT ON THEIR HOMES IS 573 FEET.
ON AVERAGE WE'RE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENCE OF 8-10 FEET, BUT THE AVERAGE IS NINE FEET THERE.
THAT'S BASICALLY A FULL STORY THAT OUR HOUSES WOULD SIT BELOW WHERE STONE BRIDGE OAKS CURRENT PAD SITES ARE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, STONE BRIDGE OAKS HAS A 25 FOOT TREE BUFFER BEHIND THERE.
EACH PROPERTIES FENCE LINE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A COUPLE OF HOUSES, THEY HAVE LESS THAN THAT.
MANY MORE HOUSES IN FACT HAVE GREATER THAN 25 FEET OF BUFFER.
IF YOU TAKE OUR TOPOGRAPHY, THE HOUSE IS BEING LOWER, IN ADDITION TO THAT 25, FOOT TREE BUFFER.
THOSE TREES ARE ON AVERAGE PROBABLY 20 FEET HIGH.
WE BELIEVE THAT EVEN A TWO-STORY STRUCTURE, WHEN BUILT ON OUR DEVELOPMENT, WILL BE TOTALLY OBSCURED FROM THE TREES IN THE DISTANCE AND SPEAKING TO DISTANCE IN PLANNING THIS SITE, WE INCREASED OUR LOT DEPTH AND ADDITIONAL 10 FEET JUST TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE EXTRA SPACE AWAY FROM STONE BRIDGE OAKS.
TO OUR SOUTH, YOU HAVE GLADE HILL.
WHAT WE'VE GOT THERE IS WE'VE GOT A CREEK SLASH DRAINAGE DITCH.
ORIGINALLY, WE HAD PLOTTED THAT IN OUR ORIGINAL DESIGN AS HOA GREEN SPACES.
LIKE 1.2 1.5 ACRES OF GREEN SPACE, THAT WOULD BE HOA MAINTAINED.
THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ASKED US TO REMOVE THAT.
THEY WERE CONCERNED IF A TREE WHEREVER FALL ON THE DRAINAGE DITCH AND JAM IT UP.
THAT IT'S HARDER TO FIND OUR ENFORCE THE REMOVAL OF THAT TREE ON AN HOA RATHER THAN AN INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER.
WE CHANGED OUR SITE PLAN SO THAT EACH OF THOSE LOTS GOES TO OUR SOUTHERN [NOISE] PROPERTY LINE.
I BELIEVE THAT IS ONE OF THE CHIEF CONCERNS OF GLADE HILL THAT WAS EXPRESSED AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
WE WENT BACK TO THE CITY AND ASKED THE CITY IF WE COULD DEED RESTRICT THOSE TREES TO THE SOUTH OF THAT CREEK.
THERE'S A LOT OF LARGE TREES THAT WE WANTED TO SAVE THAT WOULD PROTECT GLADE HILL FROM A PRIVACY STANDPOINT AND GIVE THEM THAT BUFFER THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT OUR FINISHED HOUSES WILL AT A MINIMUM BE 100 FEET FROM THE BACK OF GLADE HILL'S PROPERTY LAND ON UPWARDS TO 150 FEET OF DISTANCE.
THERE'S QUITE A DISTANCE ALREADY.
BUT WE FEEL SAVING THOSE TREES, DEED RESTRICTING THAT GIVES THEM SOME ASSURANCE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE PRIVACY MAINTAIN RATHER THAN SOME GUY THAT'S CHAINSAW, HAPPY CUTTING THEM ALL DOWN AND THEN LOOKING AT A BUNCH OF HOUSES.
WE FELT THAT WAS A GOOD MIDDLE GROUND TO DO A DEED RESTRICTION THERE BECAUSE IT GIVES THE CITY WHAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR.
IT GIVES GLADE HILL THE ASSURANCE THAT THE TREES AND PRIVACY WILL REMAIN AND IT GIVES MY BROTHER AND I, WE HAD HOPED FOR WHICH WAS AGAIN THAT PRIVACY AND VEGETATION [NOISE] HEDGE THERE.
THIS LAST PICTURE IS JUST ENVISION HOUSING TYPE THAT WE'VE HAD OUR ARCHITECT DRAW UP.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS WITHIN THE COVENANTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD PLAN FOR THERE TO BE VARYING EXTERIOR SIDING.
IN THIS RENDERING, WE'VE GOT TO JAMES HARDIE LAP SIDING.
WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BRICK AND STONE AS WELL.
CERTAINLY NO VINYL PRODUCT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY AS BEST AS WE CAN WITHIN THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
PORCHES WOULD BE ENCOURAGED EVEN SITE ENTRY GARAGES, AS YOU SEE HERE.
REALLY CHARACTERISTICS WITHIN THE COVENANTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD GUARANTEE DIFFERENTIATION OF HOUSING TYPES AND ELEVATIONS AS WELL.
WE HAVE TRIED TO BE AS THOUGHTFUL AS POSSIBLE IN THIS PROCESS AS WE'VE ENGAGED WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND TRIED TO PLEASE ALL PARTIES.
I JUST CLOSE BY SAYING MY BROTHER AND I, WE MOVED HERE IN THE LATE '80S.
OUR FAMILY DID. WE LOVE GRAPEVINE.
I'M SUPER PROUD TO BE FROM GRAPEVINE.
I GOT BUDDIES IN SOUTHLAKE AND COLLEAGUE BILL AND I WOULD SAY ALL DAY LONG.
I'M FROM GRAPEVINE AND I'LL SAY IT THE LOUDEST BECAUSE I LOVE
[00:35:03]
THE CITY AND LOVE THE VISION OF THE CITY.I HAVE A SOCCER DAD I MET LAST YEAR FROM LOUISVILLE AND HE SAID, "WHERE ARE YOU FROM?" I SAID, "I'M FROM GRAPEVINE." HE SAID "OH, GRAPEVINE." HE SAID, "MY WIFE AND I ARE FROM LOUISVILLE.
EVERY TIME WE GO TO GRAPEVINE, WE ALWAYS SAY MAN, GRAPEVINE GOT IT RIGHT.
LOUISVILLE WE ALWAYS SEEM TO GET IT ALMOST RIGHT" AND I'M PROUD MAN. THAT MAKES ME PROUD.
I SAID WE'VE EXECUTED OUR VISION AS A CITY.
THAT'S WHAT JOSH AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO.
WE'D LIKE TO EXECUTE OUR VISION FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
WE THINK THAT THE CITY NEEDS MORE SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, PERSONALLY, QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND WE'D LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MORE FAMILIES HERE.
WITH THAT SAID, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS OUR ENGINEER, MR. WARREN COHEN. THANK YOU.
>> ANY QUESTIONS MR. CHAIRMAN?
>> YEAH, REAL QUICK. THE CROSS-SECTION THAT YOU SHOWED, COULD YOU SHOW US ON THE PLAN VIEW EXACTLY WHERE THAT MIGHT BE, RELATIVE?
>> THERE WE GO. THE BLUE LINE WOULD BE THE WESTERN LOTS THAT BACKUP TO STONE BRIDGE OAKS.
>> RELATIVE, CAN YOU GO TO THE POINT OF VIEW AND SHOW WHERE THAT CROSS-SECTION IS.
>> COULD YOU JUST TELL ME WHICH LOT.
>> IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TWO, IN THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER ARE TWO LARGEST LOTS.
THE CROSS SECTION WOULD BE THE FOURTH LINE UP FROM THOSE BIG ONES.
SO THAT IS LOT NUMBER 10 AND 19 IS THIS CROSS-SECTION VIEW.
>> SO YOU'VE GOT A FIVE-FOOT CUT ON ONE SIDE AND ALMOST A SIX-FOOT FELL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN THOSE TREES?
>> THOSE TREES. [OVERLAPPING].
>> THERE'S GOING TO BE A CUT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
>> YEAH. THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS ARE PRETTY ONEROUS AS FAR AS WE CAN CLEAR CUT, WE CAN'T DO ANY SITE WORK UNTIL A HOUSE IS PERMITTED TO BE BUILT.
AND SO WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT.
>> SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BENCH THE LOTS UNTIL YOU BUILD THE HOUSES?
>> PAUL LEE SAID THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO ANY FILL ON LOT UNTIL WE HAD A PERMIT APPROVED.
>> I SEE ON YOUR DIAGRAM THAT THERE IS A BUFFER OF TREES ON THE WEST AND THE NORTH SIDE.
ARE YOU ALSO PLANNING ON DOING SOME FENCING?
>> YES. WE PLAN FOR ALONG THE FRONTAGE TO HAVE A STONE OR A BRICK FENCE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ENTRY FOR SOME AMOUNT OF DISTANCE AND THEN IT WILL TRANSITION INTO A ROD IRON.
WE PLAN FOR THAT ROD IRON TO SURROUND THE PROPERTY.
WHEN IT GETS TO THE CREEK, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES THERE, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD TACKLE THAT.
BUT WE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE RESIDENTS IN THE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES, AND I THINK THAT WAS THEIR DESIRE WAS FOR A PRODUCT THAT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT THAT EDGE IS BETTER THAN A WOOD FENCE.
I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY. IT ALSO STILL ALLOWS THE RESIDENTS OF OUR PROPOSED COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SEE ALL THE GREENERY, WHICH WE THINK IS IMPORTANT.
>> I'VE GOT A QUESTION, YOU SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE TREES?
>> THERE WE GO. SO YOU'LL SEE THERE'S ON THOSE FIVE SOUTHERN LOTS, THERE'S A DOTTED LINE.
BELOW THAT DOTTED LINE IS THE CREEK SLASH DRAINAGE POINT, AND SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING DEED RESTRICTIONS ON ALL THOSE TREES SOUTH OF THAT CREEK.
IF YOU WERE TO WALK BACK THERE, IT'S A PRETTY SCUMMY LOOKING AREA.
YOU CAN IMAGINE ANY GUYS EVER REALLY GOING TO WANT TO BE ON THAT SIDE OF THIS YARD, BUT JUST AS A SAFE GUARD WHERE WE'RE WANTING TO PUT DEED RESTRICTION ON THE LARGE TREES BACK THERE.
AS FAR AS UNDERGROWTH, I'M NOT SURE IF WE WOULD EVEN CUT THE UNDERGROWTH, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE EMBANKMENT ON EITHER SIDE, PAUL LEE MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR TO US AS WELL.
YOU CAN'T BE CUTTING TREES ON THAT BECAUSE THEN YOU GET INTO FLOW ISSUES, INCREASING THE FLOW.
[00:40:02]
REALLY FOR US WHERE YOU SEE THAT DOTTED LINE THAT SPLITS THOSE LOTS IN HALF.THAT'S REALLY THE MOST PLAIN PAD SITE WHERE WE ENVISIONED REALLY THE YARD ENDING.
>> THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WILL BE CAN'T CUT THE TREES DOWN?
>> YEAH. THE PLAN WOULD BE THAT THESE TREES ARE PROTECTED AND YOU CANNOT, ANYONE THAT BUYS A LOT WILL HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING.
>> YOU SAID THAT WAS SOUTH OF THE CREEK.
>> YEAH. THE PLAN IS SOUTH OF THE CREEK.
THEY CAN'T ACCORDING TO THE CITY CUT.
>> I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOUR DEED RESTRICTIONS, BUT DON'T BE SOUTH OF THE CENTER CREEK LINE, RIGHT?
>> YES, AND THE REASON THAT WE PROPOSE THAT IS JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMS NATURAL THAT IF YOU'RE WALKING OUT YOUR BACKYARD, ONCE THE SLOPE REALLY STARTS, YOU'RE GOING TO STOP THERE.
BUT IT'S QUITE CLEAR THAT BEYOND THE CREEK IS WHERE SOMEONE PROBABLY IS NOT GOING TO GO.
>> NO MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.
>> SO THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WON'T BE FOR THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE DEED RESTRICTIONS USUALLY AFFECT A NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE GOING TO PUT DEED RESTRICTIONS ON JUST SPECIFIC LOTS?
>> WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THIS AND WHEN WE ASK THE QUESTION TO THE CITY, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO PUT DEED RESTRICTIONS ON THAT? THEY SAID, WELL, SURE YOU CAN DO THAT, AND SO THAT'S THE PLAN.
>> BUT DOES THAT DEED RESTRICTION APPLY JUST TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CREEK OR JUST SOUTH OF THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT LINE?
>> I'M NOT SURE THE DIFFERENCE.
THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CREEK AND THE DRAINAGE.
>> FOR THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT LINE IS THE DOTTED LINE YOU HAVE THAT'S BISECTING THESE LOTS.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST SPEAKING TO MR. OLIVER ABOUT THE DOTTED LINE.
WE'RE JUST PLANNING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CREEK BECAUSE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT CREEK, THE TOPOGRAPHY REALLY DROPS, AND THE CITY ENGINEER ALREADY TOLD US YOU CAN'T REALLY TOUCH ANY OF THESE VEGETATION ANYWAY.
WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE PADS SITES BEING LEVELED OUT, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE THAT LINE WOULD ACTUALLY STOP.
>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR FIRST PHOTO THAT SHOWED THAT YET? THERE YOU GO.
THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WOULD BE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT PHOTO FOR ABOUT THE BOTTOM OF THOSE TREES THERE AND THEN THERE'S THE GREENERY THAT'S THERE IN-BETWEEN TO THE LEFT OF THE RED LINE THAT ALL STAYS THERE ANYWAY.
>> THE GREEN TO THE LEFT OF THE RED LINE IS STONE BRIDGE OAKS DESIGNATED HLA GREEN.
>> SO THAT STAYS AND THEN THE BOTTOM PORTION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT STAYS VEGETATION OR TREES, GREENS OR WHATEVER.
>> YOU CAN EVEN SEE ON THAT RIGHT SIDE WHERE IT HITS THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
THERE'S ALMOST LIKE A TRIANGULAR GREEN SECTION THAT'S QUITE A BIT UP.
THAT'S WHERE THE DRAINAGE DITCH GOES UNDERNEATH THE HIGHWAY, AND SO IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEFT SIDE, THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS BUFFER, THAT'S 25 FT RIGHT THERE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT DISTANCE, WE'VE GOT QUITE A BIT OF DISTANCE ON THAT SOUTH END OF THE CREEK.
>> ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE THERE, JUST GOING BACK TO THE CROSS-SECTION.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE BENCHING THOSE LOTS AS YOU GET PERMITS, AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME TREES TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE HOUSE WHERE YOU PUT A RETAINING WALL THERE.
I PRESUME PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING WEST OF THAT RETAINING WALL, THOSE TREES WILL PROBABLY STAY FAR FROM THE BACK PROPERTY LINE, BASICALLY THE RED LINE HERE DUE TO THAT RETAINING WALL.
>> I GUESS I WOULD SAY JUST OFF THE CUFF AT LEAST 5 FEET BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF IS ALL THE TREE AND ROOT BALLS ON THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS, HOA GREEN SPACE, WE DON'T WANT TO KILL THOSE, AND SO I DON'T KNOW.
I KNOW THE GENERAL RULE OF THUMB IS THAT AS FAR AS THE BRANCHES GO OUT, THE ROOT SYSTEM ALSO GOES OUT.
AND SO WARREN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU COULD ADD THERE.
>> CAN I ASK ERICA A QUESTION REAL QUICK? I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD ON R50.
WHAT IS THE REQUIRED REAR YARD SETBACK?
>> I BELIEVE IT'S 25 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
[4. Conditional Use Permit CU23-17 and Special Use Permit SU23-03 (EVA Esports) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Site Selection Group requesting a conditional use permit to allow for the possession, storage, retail sale and on and off premise consumption of alcoholic beverages (beer, wine, and mixed beverages) in conjunction with a restaurant and virtual gaming arena. The applicant is also requesting a special use permit to allow eight or more skill or coinoperated machines. The subject property is located at 2330 William D. Tate Avenue and is currently zoned “CC”, Community Commercial District. ]
>> DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?
[00:45:12]
>> CAN EVERYBODY SEE ME? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS DAVID MCINTYRE AND MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED HERE AT 4707 TAYLOR LANE ON THE WEST SIDE OF STONE BRIDGE OAKS SINCE APRIL OF 2014.
WHEN WE BUILT OUR HOME, WE WERE ELATED TO FIND AN AVAILABLE LOT THAT BACKED UP TO THIS WONDERFUL FOREST.
WE EVEN PAID A SUBSTANTIAL PREMIUM FOR THE LOT, AS DID ALL OF US THAT BORDERED THIS DENSE WOODLAND PROPERTY.
THE LOT PREMIUMS RANGE FROM $10,000 IN STONE BRIDGE OAKS ALL THE WAY UP TO $35,000 IN GLADE HILLS.
THE HOMES THAT BACK UP TO THIS DENSE WOODLAND AREA ARE TRULY WHAT MAKES THEM SO UNIQUE AND SPECIAL.
THE MATURE, TOWERING 30-FOOT TREES AND LUSH UNDERBRUSH HAVE PROVIDED US WITH A STUNNING PICTURE SANCTUARY THAT WE HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF ENJOYING FOR THE PAST NINE YEARS.
HOWEVER, THIS FOREST SERVES MORE THAN JUST AESTHETIC PURPOSES.
IN ADDITION, IT'S A HOME TO A VARIETY OF WONDERFUL NATIVE SPECIES OF ANIMALS LIKE RED-TAILED FOX, BOBCAT, BEAUTIFUL BIRDS LIKE CARDINALS AND RED-BELLIED WOODPECKERS, AND MANY OTHER INDIGENOUS SPECIES.
LASTLY, AND PERHAPS MOST SIGNIFICANTLY, THIS DENSE WOODLAND AREA SUBSTANTIALLY LESSENS THE NEVER-ENDING NOISE FROM HIGHWAY 360, WHICH IS ONLY GETTING WORSE AND WORSE EVERY DAY.
HOWEVER, EVERY HOMEOWNER WHO BOUGHT IN THIS BORDERING OF THE FOREST AREA KNEW THIS WOODLAND AREA WAS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL.
WE WERE ALL AWARE THAT AT SOME POINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, SOMETHING WOULD BE BUILT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
HOWEVER, THE PRESENT PCD ZONING ACTUALLY SAFEGUARDS US.
AS ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BY CODE, MUST MAINTAIN A MINIMUM BUFFER OF AT LEAST 100 FEET, ASSURING US THE PROTECTION OF AT LEAST A SIZABLE PORTION OF THE FOREST.
IN FACT, WE RELIED UPON THESE ZONING RESTRICTIONS TO PROVIDE AND PROTECT US WITH THIS HUGE 100-FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER WHEN WE MADE OUR PURCHASING DECISIONS.
ACCORDING TO THE PCD CODE, MAINTAINING A PARK-LIKE SETTING IS ONE OF THE PERIMETER BUFFER'S PRINCIPLE GOALS IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES RELATED WITH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ARE MITIGATED.
HOWEVER, THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL TO REZONE ZERO LOT HOMES NOW THREATENS TO TAKE AWAY THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS IRREPLACEABLE GREEN SPACE AND REPLACES IT WITH 21 DENSELY PACKED HOMES WITH ZONING LANGUAGE THAT ONLY REQUIRES A 25-FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER.
THIS WILL NOT ONLY LOWER THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES BUT ALSO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF OUR RESPECTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS.
ALL EXISTING HOMES THAT WERE WITHIN 200 FEET OR LESS FROM THE FOREST WERE NOTIFIED OF THIS PLANNED REZONING MODIFICATION JUST LAST MONTH.
OF THE 24 AFFECTED RESIDENTS THAT RECEIVED THE LETTERS WITHIN THIS 200-FOOT SPACE, 18 HAVE FORMERLY PROTESTED THIS REZONING EFFORT.
AS I SEE IT HERE ARE THE FACTS IF THIS REZONING IS APPROVED, WE WILL BE FORCED TO ENDURE 21 SEPARATE HOME CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT IN ALL LIKELIHOOD COULD TAKE YEARS TO COMPLETE, AS OPPOSED TO A SINGLE POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WHICH COULD LIKELY BE COMPLETED IN MUCH LESS TIME.
THE FOREST AND ITS WILDLIFE WILL BE ALL BUT DESTROYED BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE ENOUGH SPACE TO MAINTAIN ANYTHING MORE THAN THE MINIMAL 25-FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER THAT THE HOME BUILDER IS REQUIRED TO ABIDE BY.
BECAUSE OF THIS, SECLUSION AND PEACE WILL BE REPLACED BY LOOKING AT THE BACKUP NEW ROOFTOPS.
ADDITIONALLY, WE WILL HAVE TO MANAGE THE INESCAPABLE NOISE FROM THE NEW BACKYARD ACTIVITIES OF THESE NEW RESIDENCES, SUCH AS BARKING PETS AND BACKYARD SOCIAL GATHERINGS.
WITHOUT ANY NOISE-ABSORBING FOREST REMAINING, THERE'LL BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OBTRUSIVE HIGHWAY NOISE FROM 360.
WITHOUT A DOUBT, THESE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES WILL LOWER THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES, WHICH WILL ALSO INDIRECTLY AFFECT THE CAR PRICING OF ALL 154 NEIGHBORING HOMES IN BOTH EXISTING RESPECTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS, AT LEAST TO SOME DEGREE.
IMAGINE HOW YOUR HEART WOULD SINK AS YOU
[00:50:02]
REALIZE THAT THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME IS LIKELY TO SUFFER.THE INVESTMENT YOU MADE, THE PLACE WHERE YOU PLANNED TO CREATE LASTING MEMORIES WILL NOW BE OVERSHADOWED BY A CROWDED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AS YOU PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES, I IMPLORE YOU TO SEE BEYOND THE IMMEDIATE FINANCIAL GAINS OF THIS REZONING PROPOSAL.
WHILE THIS PROPOSED HOUSING PROJECT MAY BRING SHORT-TERM ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO THE DEVELOPERS, THEY WILL COME AT THE EXPENSE OF THE COLLECTIVE WELL-BEING OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITIES.
THE LONG-LASTING AND PERMANENT IMPACT OF LOSING THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FOREST AND ALL OF THE BENEFITS IT PROVIDES IS IMMEASURABLE.
PLEASE, HONOR THE TRUST WE HAVE PLACED IN THE CITY'S CURRENT PCD ZONING REQUIREMENTS WHEN WE BUILT OUR HOMES.
JUST AS YOU WOULD DEFEND YOUR OWN HOME, I ASK THAT YOU STAND WITH US TODAY.
I IMPLORE YOU TO REJECT THIS REZONING PROPOSAL.
BY DOING SO, YOU WILL NOT ONLY PROTECT OUR EXISTING HOMES BUT ALSO UPHOLD THE PRINCIPLES THAT MAKES GRAPEVINE GREAT, A COMMITMENT TO THE WELL-BEING AND HAPPINESS OF ITS EXISTING RESIDENTS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND CONSIDERATION AS YOU DETERMINE THE LONG-TERM FUTURE NEEDS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU.
>> ERIC MAUER, 338 HILL CREEK LANE.
>> YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THREE MINUTES, EACH SPEAKER HAS THREE MINUTES, SO TRY TO STAY CLOSE TO THEM.
>> THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY.
THANK YOU TO MAYOR TATE AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE FOR HEARING OUR CONCERNS.
I AM IN PROTEST OF THIS ZONING CHANGE.
I ACTUALLY HAVE A VIEW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REZONING AND THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT APPROVING A PLOT AND APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT PLAN ALL IN ONE FELL SWOOP.
SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE TWO THINGS SEPARATELY.
THERE'S A LOT OF SIMILARITIES TO WHAT DAVID JUST TOLD YOU.
MY WIFE AND I MOVED TO GRAPEVINE IN 2015.
WE WERE ON THE GLADE HILLSIDE, SO WE ARE LOT FOR THAT BACKS UP TO THE PROPERTY WHERE THE CREEK IS.
WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LUCKIER THAN STONE BRIDGE OAKS FOLKS CONSIDERING THERE'S A CREEK THERE.
THE CREEK GIVES US SOME BUFFER THAT IS REQUIRED JUST BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
HOWEVER, THEY'RE NOT SO LUCKY ON THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS SIDE.
YOU'VE GOT LOTS THERE GOING DIRECTLY UP TO THEIR LOT LINE AND THERE IS A ZERO BUFFER ZONE THAT IS IN PLAY FOR STONE BRIDGE OAKS.
MY WIFE AND I MOVED A GREAT FUN FROM PLANO.
I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL IN PLANO. I'VE BEEN IN NORTH TEXAS FOR A LONG TIME.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE SO CLOSE TO OUR PARENTS, SO WHEN WE DECIDED TO BUILD A HOME, THAT'S WHY WE MOVED TO GRAPEVINE AND WE LOVE IT.
WE LOVE THE CITY, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE HERE.
WE ALSO LOVE HAVING THAT GREEN SPACE BEHIND US.
THAT WAS THE REASON WE BOUGHT OUR HOME.
WE SPENT AN EXTRA 20 GRAND TO DO SO.
OUR NEIGHBORS SPENT EVEN MORE THAN THAT TO DO SO.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR PROPERTY VALUES, THAT WILL END UP CHANGING, GRANTED, MAYBE NOT TO THE SAME EFFECT AS STONE BRIDGE OAKS CONSIDERING THERE IS THAT CREEK BUFFER ZONE.
THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE SOME CHANGES IN THAT REGARD.
WE ARE ACTUALLY HIGHER UP, SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE DIRECTLY INTO THOSE BACKYARDS WHEREAS THEY SHOWED THE SCALED-DOWN PIECE ON THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS SIDE.
I THINK YOU'RE STILL GOING TO SEE THE ROOFTOPS IN THEIR CASE AS WELL, BUT WE'RE HIGHER UP.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE SOUND BARRIER AS WELL, WE HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS.
THAT'S A PARTIAL SOUND BARRIER FOR US IN GLADE HILL MORE SO FOR THE NORTHERN SIDE OF GLADE HILL THAN THE REST OF IT, BUT IT'S STILL A CONCERN.
WILDLIFE, A BIG CONCERN AS WELL.
ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT SITTING BACK THERE IS ALL THE WILDLIFE AND BIRDS AND BEES AND BUTTERFLIES AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE, A LOT OF THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE EVEN WITH THE PIECE THAT IS THE CREEK JUST BECAUSE OF THE VAST AMOUNT OF TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HAVE TREE CONSERVATION AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S A BIG DEAL FOR GRAPEVINE.
HOWEVER, WITH THE BEST INTENTIONS OF KEEPING TREES, YOU CAN'T SAY YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP TREES AND THEN BULLDOZE, ERODE, AND PUT 21 HOMES THERE.
YOU CAN DO YOUR BEST, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE TREES WILL DISAPPEAR.
WHEN GLADE HILL WAS APPROVED WAY BACK IN 2012, THERE WERE FIVE HOMEOWNERS ON THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS SIDES THAT BUTTED UP AGAINST GLADE HILL.
[00:55:03]
A COUPLE OF THOSE HAD SIMILAR CONCERNS AND CAME TO THIS EXACT SAME HEARING WHEN THAT HAPPENED BACK THEN WITH THE SAME CONCERNS.WHAT GLADE HILL DID IS THEY TOOK TWO LOTS AND THEY TURNED HIM INTO A GREEN SPACE.
WE HAVE A PARK THERE AND WE HAVE A GREEN SPACE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TWO LOTS.
THE CITY COUNCIL REQUIRED A 50-FOOT BUFFER.
THAT REQUIREMENT IS NOT BEING MET WITH THE WAY THAT IT'S SET UP TODAY.
NOW, GRANTED, THAT'S A SMALLER LOT.
IT'S A SMALLER NUMBER OF HOMES.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU PUT A 50-FOOT BUFFER ON THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS SIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REMOVE LOTS.
MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY SHOW THAT THERE'S A BUFFER ZONE BECAUSE CURRENTLY THERE IS NONE.
THE ONLY BUFFER ZONE THAT EXISTS IS THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE HOA SIDE OF STONE BRIDGE OAKS.
THE REST WILL BE THAT ARE DROPPED-DOWN RETAINING WALL IS RIGHT UP ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
THERE'S NOT ANY BUFFERS ZONE THERE WHATSOEVER.
[5. Conditional Use Permit CU23-18 (Gaylord Texan Temporary Parking Lot) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Gaylord Texan requesting a conditional use permit to amend the previously approved site plan CU18-12 (Ordinance No. 2018-42) to expand the planned commercial center by five acres to construct a 700-space lighted temporary, gravel parking lot. The subject property is located at 816 Ruth Wall Road and is currently zoned “PCD”, Planned Commerce Development District. ]
WHEN IT COMES TO THE REZONING SIDE, JUST LIKE DAVID SAID, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PCD ZONING, THERE IS A LOT MORE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS.THIS IS WHY WE DON'T WANT THE REZONING AT ALL BECAUSE WE WOULD RATHER ROLL THE DICE WITH WHAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THERE BECAUSE THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE MORE STRINGENT THAN WHAT ARE PLACED ON RESIDENTIAL.
THERE'S A PERCENTAGE OF SPACE THAT MUST BE UNDER OPEN SPACE.
I CAN GO THROUGH. YOU GUYS KNOW THESE RULES BETTER THAN I DO.
I HAD TO LEARN ALL THIS STUFF.
WHENEVER A PIECE OF USERS GETS CREATED ADJACENT TO AN EXISTING REZONE RESIDENTIAL, THAT PORTION OF THE PERIMETER BUFFER YARD, A BUDDING THE RESIDENTIAL SHALL BE DESIGNED TO SCREEN EFFECTIVELY THE ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO MAKE SCREENINGS.
WE'RE NOT REQUIRING THEM TO MAKE A SCREENING.
I THINK SOME OF THESE REQUIREMENTS WOULD NEED TO CHANGE.
WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING WITH THEM, THEY WERE VERY NICE.
WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT PLANS.
HOWEVER, THE SAME PLAN THAT THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER TODAY IS THE EXACT SAME PLAN THAT WE SAW.
THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY CHANGES.
THERE'S NOT BEEN ANY ACT OF GOOD FAITH TO SAY WE WANT TO DO RIGHT BY THE RESIDENTS.
WE AT GLADE HILL WILL ACTUALLY LIKE THAT CREEK BED AREA TO BE HOA PROPERTY.
HE DID MENTION THIS DEED RESTRICTION, WHICH I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S STILL GOING TO BE PROPERTY OWNED BY EACH HOMEOWNER, BUT THEN THERE ARE RESTRICTED ON WHAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO WITH THAT AREA.
WE WOULD RATHER THAT AREA BE HOA LAND.
WHEN TALKING TO THE ENGINEERS WHEN IT CAME UP HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THEY GAVE ME THE EXACT SAME THING THEY GAVE THEM.
OUR INTEREST, WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT A LIEN ON PEOPLE'S HOMES IF THEY DON'T PAY TO FIX SOMETHING RATHER THAN GO AFTER AN HOA.
THAT'S APPEASING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY NOT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS.
THIS IS ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS.
I WOULD ASK YOU IF YOU DO APPROVE THE REZONING, WHICH OBVIOUSLY I OPPOSE TO MAKE THAT BACK INTO A GREEN SPACE THAT IS HOA PROPERTY.
THEREFORE, IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES, I'M ON THE HOA BOARD FOR GLADE HILL, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK TO THEIR BOARD AND WORK OUT ANYTHING AS A CITIZEN TO GO THROUGH THAT.
WE'VE GOT 21 HOMES THAT ARE BEING ADDED TO THIS.
YOU'VE GOT 24 HOMES THAT HAVE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTS, WHICH WEIGHS MORE THAN 21 POSSIBLE NEW RESIDENTS AND PROFIT FOR INVESTORS OR YOUR CURRENT RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE TODAY THAT ENJOY THE SPACE THAT'S THERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> GARRY PEARSON, 4724 TAYLOR LANE.
>> GOOD EVENING HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCILORS, AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS GARRY PEARSON, I'M A RESIDENT OF THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS COMMUNITY AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
AS WITH ALMOST ALL QUESTIONS THESE DAYS, THERE WERE VERY DISTINCT AND OPPOSITE OPINIONS FROM OUR HOMEOWNERS REGARDING THIS DEVELOPMENT.
EVEN AMONG OUR HOMEOWNERS [NOISE] WHO ARE MOST CLOSELY AFFECTED, THOSE WITHIN 25 FEET OF STONE BRIDGE OAKS OAK HILL PROPERTY LINE, THERE ARE SOME OPPOSED AND SOME IN FAVOR.
YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM THOSE WHO ARE PROTESTING THE ZONING CHANGE IN DEVELOPMENT.
THOSE PROTESTS IN SUBSTANCE RELATE TO TREES AND GREEN SPACE, NOISE BUFFERS, WILDLIFE, ENVIRONMENTAL AND PROPERTY VALUES.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ENJOYED THE TREES AND GREEN SPACE WHICH PROVIDE RELIEF FROM THE NOISE AND VISIBILITY OF HIGHWAY 360.
IF APPROVED, TO A LARGE EXTENT, THIS WILL BE LOST AND NOISE WILL MOST CERTAINLY BE MORE
[01:00:01]
INVASIVE AS TIME GOES BY WHETHER YOU APPROVE THIS ZONING CHANGE OR NOT.MANY HAVE PAID A GREEN SPACE PREMIUM TO THE DEVELOPERS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FOR THE GREEN SPACE BARRIER, AND THIS PREMIUM MAY BE REDUCED.
PROPERTY VALUES MAY BE AFFECTED, BUT WE CAN ONLY GUESS WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO BE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE DEPENDING UPON THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE DEVELOPED, THE 21 LOTS.
WE APPRECIATE THAT THE COUNCIL POSTPONED THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND YOUR DECISIONS ON THE ZONING CHANGE FOR ONE MONTH.
THIS HAS PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE HOMEOWNERS FROM BOTH STONE BRIDGE OAKS AND GLADE HILL TO MEET WITH THE OAK HILL DEVELOPERS.
WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH DETAILS OF THEIR PLANS AND ANSWERS TO MANY OF OUR QUESTIONS.
AS A RESULT OF THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, SOME OF THE PROCESS YOU HAVE RECEIVED HAVE BEEN RESCINDED AND THE OPINIONS HAVE CHANGED.
ACCORDING TO THE PROTEST MAP IN YOUR PACKET, THREE OF THE EIGHT STONE BRIDGE OAKS HOMEOWNERS WHO ORIGINALLY PROTESTED THE OAK HILL PROJECT NOW SUPPORT IT.
STONE BRIDGE OAKS HOMEOWNERS ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY, AND OUR NEIGHBORS IN GLADE HILL, ARE JUSTIFIABLY CONCERNED ABOUT NEGATIVE EFFECTS FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT ON THE DRAINAGE AND THE OPEN STREAM WHICH DRAINS WEST TO EAST ACROSS THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE OAK HILL PROPERTY AND CLOSE TO THEIR HOMES.
THE CITY WAS COGNIZANT OF AND MADE ALLOWANCES FOR THIS STREAM WHEN APPROVING THE GLADE HILL DEVELOPMENT.
GREEN SPACE, THE WATERSHED, AND THE TREES WERE PRESERVED.
ACCORDINGLY, WE REQUEST THAT IF THE ZONING CHANGE IS APPROVED, YOU CONSIDER IMPOSING CONDITIONS ON THE APPROVAL THAT WILL REQUIRE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND EASEMENTS ON LOTS 1-5, WHICH PREVENT ANY DEVELOPMENT OR TREE REMOVAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT STREAM, THAT IS SOUTH OF THE 100-YEAR FLOOD ZONE OF THE STREAM NORTH OF THE PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN OAK HILL AND GLADE HILL.
THAT IS FAIRLY EASY TO SEE ON PAGE 90 OF YOUR PACKET WHERE THE STREAM AND THE 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN IS IN DARK ACROSS THE BOTTOM, AND YOU CAN SEE SOUTH OF THAT SHOULD BE DEED RESTRICTED AND NO DEVELOPMENT TO TAKE PLACE THERE AT ALL.
THIS WILL ALSO BE BENEFICIAL TO THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS HOMEOWNERS IN ADDRESSING POSSIBLE FLOOD PREVENTION AND WATER BACKUP IN THE CHANNEL.
WE'VE BEEN ADVISED BY THE DEVELOPERS THAT IF THE ZONING REQUEST IS NOT APPROVED, IT IS HIGHLY LIKELY THAT THE PROPERTY WILL BE SOLD TO SOMEONE WHO MAY DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL ZONING CONDITIONS.
WE ARE AWARE OF THOSE CONDITIONS AND WHAT POSSIBILITIES EXIST FOR RETAIL, COMMERCIAL, OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES ON THAT SITE.
IN THIS REGARD, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF STONE BRIDGE OAKS ARE SOMEWHAT PRAGMATIC.
BETTER THE DEVIL YOU KNOW THAN THE ONE YOU DON'T.
WHILE WE LOSE THE TREES, AND PERHAPS MOST OF THE NOISE BARRIER, THE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IS PREFERABLE TO MOST OF OUR HOMEOWNERS THAN THAT OF AN UNKNOWN COMMERCIAL ALTERNATIVE.
ACCORDINGLY, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF STONE BRIDGE OAKS OWNERS ASSOCIATION ARE IN FAVOR OF AND SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR THIS PROPERTY.
WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT DEVELOPERS HAVE ON THEIR OWN COME TO YOU WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS, ETC, AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY BORDERING STONE BRIDGE OAKS.
WE WILL MAINTAIN OUR 25-FOOT BARRIER THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS ON OUR OWN PROPERTY AND WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPERS PROVIDE ENOUGH DROP AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY THAT WILL ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE NOISE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> ARE YOU HAVING CORRESPONDENCE?
>> YES SIR. THERE ARE SEVERAL IN YOUR PACKET AND THEN IN FRONT OF YOU, THERE'S ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT, THREE IN PROTEST, AND THEN THREE AMENDING THEIR PREVIOUS COMMENTS.
>> SO THEY'RE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE SIGNED A PETITION THAT REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY?
>> I'LL LET ERICA ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I'M CONFUSED.
>> NO, SIR, WE'RE AT ABOUT 17% OF THE LAND AREA WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
>> SO THIS REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITIES?
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO, WE WOULD NEED 20% OR MORE TO DO A SUPERMAJORITY REQUIREMENT.
>> SO IT DID NOT REQUIRE THE SUPERMAJORITY?
MR. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? NO SIR.
>> COUNCIL, HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> I NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.
>> MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED, MOTION CARRIES.
PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU23-17 AND
[01:05:06]
SPECIAL USE PERMITS SU23-03. MS. MAROHNIC>> THIS IS A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE POSSESSION, STORAGE, RETAIL SALE, AND ON AND OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESTAURANT.
IT IS ALSO A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW EIGHT OR MORE SKILL OR COIN-OPERATED MACHINES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A VIRTUAL GAMING ARENA LOCATED AT 2330 WILLIAM D. TATE AVENUE, WHICH IS THE HOME AND SITE OF THE FORMER SKATELAND SKATING RINK.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS PRESENTLY ZONE CC, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
THIS SUBJECT SITE WAS PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED IN 1996 AS A 32,900-SQUARE-FOOT SINGLE-STORY STANDALONE INDOOR ROLLER SKATING FACILITY.
THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO REUSE THE EXISTING BUILDING TO ESTABLISH AN E-SPORTS VIRTUAL GAMING FACILITY, WHICH IS DEPICTED ON THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN WITHIN YOUR PACKET MATERIALS AND CONSISTS OF AN 18,800 SQUARE-FOOT ARENA, A 3,700 SQUARE-FOOT RESTAURANT BAR AND KITCHEN, AND A 2,400 SQUARE-FOOT GAME AREA FOR EIGHT OR MORE SKILL OR COIN-OPERATED MACHINES.
THE DINING AREA IS SET TO ACCOMMODATE 135 SEATS.
WITHIN THE ARENA, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF THE FLOOR PLAN, THERE WILL BE THREE DESIGNATED PLAYER AREAS, WHICH WILL ACCOMMODATE A MAXIMUM OF 36 PLAYERS AND NO MORE THAN 12 PLAYERS PER ARENA.
ADDITIONALLY, THE NEW EXTERIOR WALL IS PROPOSED AT THE EXISTING MAIN ENTRY LOCATED ON THE EAST ELEVATION AND SOME UPDATES TO THE ELEVATIONS ARE PROPOSED.
THERE IS AN EXISTING 19-FOOT TALL POLE SIGN WITH APPROXIMATELY 110 SQUARE FOOT EFFECTIVE AREA LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SUBJECT SITE ADJACENT TO WILLIAM D. TATE AVENUE WHICH IS PROPOSED TO REMAIN.
NO CHANGES TO HEIGHT OR EFFECTIVE AREA ARE PROPOSED, THEY WILL JUST REFACE THAT EXISTING POLL SIGN AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
REGARDING PARKING, TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING FOR THIS PROPOSED USE IS 159 PARKING SPACES AND 159 ARE PROVIDED.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES PROPOSED TO ACCESS AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
THERE'LL BE AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY FROM WILLIAM D. TATE AND FROM GRAYSON DRIVE TO THE WEST, AND THEN THROUGH MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE SOUTH.
THE APPLICANT, MR. [INAUDIBLE] IS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT TO YOU.
HE HAS PREPARED A POWERPOINT AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT BOTH THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> SALEM FINE 2330 WILLIAM T.T AVENUE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
I'LL MAKE IT BRIEF HOPEFULLY SO WE CAN GET THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF.
I'M GOING TO PUT A QUICK PRESENTATION ABOUT EVA AND WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST ONE.
HERE WE ARE EVA ESPORTS VIRTUAL ARENAS.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE HAVE A CONCEPT BROUGHT FROM FRANCE, BRINGING TO THE US.
THIS WILL BE THE SECOND ESTABLISHMENT IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES AND IN TEXAS, OF COURSE, BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING HERE.
WHAT WE DO IS WE BRING TOGETHER OUR COMMUNITY UNDER VR ESPORTS ENTERTAINMENT AND WITH A BAR AND RESTAURANT.
OUR MOST IMPORTANT VALUE IS COMMUNITY.
WE INTEND AND WE ALWAYS ARE A VALUABLE COMMUNITY PARTNER.
WE PARTNERED WITH THE CHAMBER, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND OUR CURRENT FACILITY.
WE'VE HAD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT OUT TO PLAY GAMES OUT IN OUR FACILITIES AND QUITE A FEW, BUT A BIT OF THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
WE BRING VR ESPORTS, WHICH IS THE LATEST AND GREATEST, PROBABLY THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF TECHNOLOGY AND ENTERTAINMENT THAT EXISTS IN THE WORLD TODAY IN A HYPER FREE ROAMING ENVIRONMENT.
EACH ONE OF OUR ARENAS IS ABOUT 5,500 SQUARE FEET, BUT IT SAYS 5,620 ON THERE, 5,500 SQUARE FEET AND IT'S PLAYER VERSUS PLAYER FUN.
SOMETIMES WE SHOOT SOME ZOMBIES, SOMETIMES WE PLAY AGAINST EACH OTHER, BUT IT'S POPULAR THROUGH ALL AGES.
IN FACT, OUR SECOND AND THIRD LARGEST DEMOGRAPHICS ARE FROM THE 35-44 AND THE 45-54 AGE GROUPS, SO I EXPECT TO SEE QUITE A FEW OF YOU GUYS OUT THERE AS WELL.
WE ALSO INCLUDE A BAR AND A RESTAURANT.
I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, WE ARE NOT A BAR.
WE DO PROVIDE THAT AS PART OF OUR OFFERING, BUT WE'RE REALLY NEVER OPEN PAST MIDNIGHT AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE.
WE WANT TO BE HERE FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND WE PLAN ON BEING A FAMILY FUN ENVIRONMENT.
OUR FIRST LOCATION WAS IN FLOWER MOUND.
WE PICKED THAT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS THAT YOU GUYS PROBABLY DON'T CARE TOO MUCH ABOUT.
BUT IT'S BEEN QUITE SUCCESSFUL AND OUR CURRENT GOOGLE RADIANS ARE AT 4.9 FROM OVER 200 PEOPLE THAT HAVE PUT RATINGS IN ON THERE AND WE'RE A VALUED PARTNER IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE'RE THE BEST RESTAURANT IN FLOWER MOUND.
WE INTEND TO PUT SOME COMPETITION TO THE GRAPEVINE RESTAURANTS AS WELL.
[01:10:01]
WHY GRAPEVINE? WELL, I THINK GRAPEVINE IS AN AMAZING CITY.ACTUALLY, I WAS OUT IN LA AT A CONFERENCE TALKING ABOUT ALL ENTERTAINMENT PLACES AND GRAPEVINE WAS SPONSORING IT TOO.
OUT OF ALL PLACES, I WAS IN LA AND GRAPEVINE WAS THE LUNCH SPONSOR AND HAS SUCH A GREAT REPUTATION FOR BUILDING A COMMUNITY, BUILDING ENTERTAINMENT, AND BRINGING SOME OF THE LATEST AND GREATEST TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT FUNCTIONS TO THEIR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.
OUR PREVIOUS ENTERTAINMENT LOCATION BASICALLY HAS GREAT EXPOSURE TO HIGHWAY 121.
THE FACILITY STRUCTURE AND THE SIZE REQUIREMENTS IS PERFECT FOR US BECAUSE THERE'S NO BEAMS, NO COLUMNS, AND WE CAN TAKE SKATE TOWN AND BRING IT BACK AND FRESH AND HAVE ANOTHER 30 YEARS OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ENJOYING THIS ENVIRONMENT.
THEN LASTLY, JUST A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE FOR GRAPEVINE, WHICH WILL PEOPLE IN THE AIRPORT, TOURISM, EVERYBODY IS GOING TO COME INTO THIS FACILITY.
OUR GROWING BRAND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, WE'VE HAD SOME AMAZING TIKTOKS IF YOU FOLLOW TIKTOK OR NOT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME GREAT SUPPORT FROM SOME LOCAL CELEBRITIES.
AS YOU SEE, CHRIS GROWNKOWSKI AND FLAMESWORD, THAT'S NOT HIS REAL NAME OF COURSE, BUT HE IS AN ESPORTS PLAYER, SO WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF A GROWING US BRAND AND GRAPEVINE WILL BE OUR SECOND LOCATION.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING HERE. THANK YOU.
>> ABOUT SECURITY, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER? BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS THERE JUST LIKE YOU SAID.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WE HAVE IN OUR PLANS 32 DIFFERENT SECURITY CAMERAS.
THEY ARE CURRENTLY ACTIVE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PERSONNEL LISTED FOR SECURITY.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES SO FAR.
WE DO WELCOME THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COME OUT, FIRE DEPARTMENT COME OUT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LAYOUT IS IT THAT.
IN ADDITION THOUGH ALL OF OUR PERSONNEL ARE TRAINED, MAKE SURE WE DO NOT OVER SERVE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES.
LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT A BAR OR JUST THERE TO BE AN ESTABLISHMENT, BUT WE DO HAVE OUTSIDE AND INSIDE CAMERAS FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF ALL OF OUR PERSONNEL AND THE ATTENDEES.
>> OUR HOURS OF OPERATIONS, DON'T GO PAST MIDNIGHT ANYTIME.
USUALLY 11:00 O'CLOCK, THAT'S LIKE ON A SATURDAY, ABOUT 11:00 FRIDAY, AND THEN GENERALLY IS 04:00 O'CLOCK IS OUR START TIMES.
ONLY ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY DO THOSE CHANGE.
FRIDAY GOES TO ABOUT 02:00 O'CLOCK FOR AN AFTERNOON EVENING.
>> CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GAMES THAT WILL OCCUR IN THE ARENA? YOU SAY IT'S THREE AREAS WITH 36 PEOPLE AND YET BASED ON OCCUPANCY, THE BUILDING WILL ACCOMMODATE OVER 700 PEOPLE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. FIRST OF ALL, WE DO INTEND TO KEEP ALL THE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR BUILDING, THAT OCCUPANCY OF 700 PEOPLE, SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE IS OUR GAME BASICALLY LIMITS US TO REALLY WHAT WE DO IS 10 PEOPLE, BUT WE SAY 12.
WE DO 10 PEOPLE PER ARENA AND THAT'S THE USUALLY THEY CAN PLAY EITHER CO-OPERATIVE, SHOOTING ZOMBIES TOGETHER OR FIVE VERSUS FIVE, FOUR VERSUS SIX.
WE ONLY HAVE ENOUGH HEADSETS AND ENOUGH COMPUTERS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE 10 PLAYERS ON THAT ARENA.
THE EXTRA TUBE IS BASICALLY OUR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO OUTFIT PEOPLE IN FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY.
EACH ONE OF THOSE ARENAS ARE A SEPARATE GAME.
BUT WE HAVE OUR FAMOUS GAMES AFTER EIGHT, WHICH HAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT MAPS AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT FUN STUFF TO DO.
BUT WE'RE ADDING OTHER GAMES, MOST OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS FROM FRANCE.
SOME OF THE OTHER GAMES ARE ALL PHYSICAL ORIENTED.
I CAN REVEAL A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT MAYBE A VIRTUAL PICKLE BALL AS WELL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMING OUT AS WELL FOR OTHER AGE GROUPS.
>> TELL ME EXACTLY ABOUT THE GAMES.
>> I SAW A LOT OF GUNS IN THERE.
>> DON'T MISUNDERSTAND, OUR OWN GUNS.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO VIRTUAL LASER TAG.
IF YOU'VE EVER DONE LASER TAG OR PAINTBALL, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
[6. Conditional Use Permit CU23-19 (Gaylord Texan New Access Driveway) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Gaylord Texan requesting a conditional use permit to amend the previously approved site plan CU18-12 (Ordinance No. 2018-42) to construct a new concrete access driveway off of Ruth Wall Road to the Gaylord Texan property for use by Gaylord owned vehicles and City of Grapevine emergency service vehicles. The subject property is located at 1501 Gaylord Trail and is currently zoned “PCD”, Planned Commerce Development District. ]
THERE'S NO VIOLENCE, NO GORE IN ANY OF OUR GAMES IS ALL DIGITALIZED.MORE THAN ANYTHING, IT'S JUST COMPETITION.
WHEN YOU GET THAT, IT'S ALL SHOOTING ORIENTED AS FAR AS OUR AFTER H GAME AND OUR ZOMBIES GAMES, BUT OUR FURTHER GAMES ARE NOT GOING TO BE.
LIKE I SAY, THIS DOES COME OUT OF FRANCE, SO THEY'RE MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE ON GUNS AND VIOLENCE IN THEIR GAMING AND WE RESPECT THAT AS WELL.
>> SO THESE ARE LASER TOP GUNS, THERE IS NO AMMUNITION OR EVEN BLANKS AND THERE IS [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO, MA'AM. THEY ARE ACTUALLY PLASTIC.
WE MAKE THEM WITH 3D PRINTING AND ALL THEY HAVE IS THE MOTION CONTROLLERS INSIDE THERE.
THEY HAVE NO WORKING FUNCTION OTHER THAN WHAT YOU'D HAVE FOR AN OCULUS.
>> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
THE TYPE OF GAMES YOU HAVE, AND I KNOW THAT GAMING IS A HUGE, IT'S BECOME VERY COMPETITIVE AND IT'S SOMETHING NOW THAT PEOPLE DO FOR A LIVING.
>> THEY HAVE COMPETITION. THIS IS NOT WHAT THAT IS, THIS IS JUST GAMES LIKE LASER TAG, THAT TYPE OF THING, IT'S NOT, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE COMPETITION?
>> YES, MA'AM. WE DO ACTUALLY DO HAVE LEAGUES AND WE DO HAVE TOURNAMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE EVENING LEAGUES, SOCIAL EXAM AND COMPETITIVE LEAGUES.
IN ADDITION, WE USUALLY HOLD EITHER MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY TOURNAMENTS AS WELL.
THAT'S ALL AGE GROUPS AND OPEN TO ALL VARIETIES OF PEOPLE.
WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS ENTIRE GAME AND ENVIRONMENT IS THAT IT'S FREE OF DISCRIMINATION.
[01:15:04]
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT YOU ARE, YOU'RE OUT THERE IN YOUR PLAYING TO YOUR OWN SKILL SET.DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE AN ATHLETE OR NOT.
>> TEAMS AND LEAGUES THAT ARE ACTUALLY BASED HERE, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE OTHERS COMING IN FROM OTHER AREAS FOR THE TOURNAMENTS.
>> ABSOLUTELY, THAT IS PART OF IT.
IN ADDITION, WE CAN ALSO PLAY ANY OTHER ESTABLISHMENT THAT WE OPENED IN THE UNITED STATES OR IN THE WORLD.
WE CAN BE PLAYING INTERNATIONALLY AND BE HOSTING HERE AT GRAPEVINES.
YOU MAY ACTUALLY SEE A TOURNAMENT HOSTED IN GRAPEVINE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AT SOME POINT.
WE DO STREAM LIVE TO TWITCH ALL OF OUR STUFF AS WELL.
SO YOUR NAME OF GRAPEVINE WILL BE OUT THERE IN THE TWITCH SPHERE.
>> WHAT SORT OF FOOD WILL YOU BE SERVING IN YOUR RESTAURANT?
>> EXCUSE ME, MA'AM, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT?
>> WHAT TYPE OF FOOD WILL YOU BE SERVING?
>> WE HAVE A VARIETY OF FOOD ACTUALLY.
WE HAVE EVERYTHING FROM LAMB CHOPS, SEARED TUNA STEAK, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SOME AMAZING MAC AND CHEESE.
THEY CAN ASK BRISKET AND CHICKEN.
A VARIETY OF STUFF, PIZZAS, TACOS.
BUT WE HAVE EVEN HIGH CLASS, SCALLOPS AND MUSCLES AND SOME OF OUR FOOD IS ABSOLUTELY STUNNING. YES, MA'AM.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> WE NEED MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING.
>> MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING.
>> THE MOTION CLOSED, THE MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.
PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS CU23-18. ERICA MAHRONIC.
>> THIS REQUEST IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AMEND THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH CONDITIONAL USE 1812 FOR A PLANS COMMERCIAL CENTER FOR A HOTEL CONVENTION CENTER.
THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TO ADD FIVE ACRES TO THAT PLAN COMMERCIAL CENTER AND TO CONSTRUCT A 700 SPACE LIGHTED TEMPORARY GRAVEL PARKING LOT.
THE SUBJECT SITES LOCATION IS 816 RUTH WALL ROAD AND THE SITE IS PRESENTLY PLANNED COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
IT IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU AND WITHIN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS.
THE APPLICANT IS INTENDING TO CONSTRUCT THIS TEMPORARY PARKING LOT LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF RUTH WALL ROAD AND WITHIN THE FORMER WAGON WHEEL PROPERTY.
THE PURPOSE OF THE PARKING LOT IS TO ACCOMMODATE OVERFLOW GUESTS PARKING FOR THE GAYLORD TEXTS AND SPECIAL EVENTS SUCH AS THEIR ICE EVENT DURING THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS AND CHRISTMAS CAPITAL OF TEXAS.
THE APPLICANT BELIEVES THAT THE OPERATIONAL TIMEFRAME NEEDED FOR THIS TEMPORARY PARKING LOT IS BETWEEN FIVE AND EIGHT YEARS.
THE SITE HAS APPROXIMATELY 841 LINEAR FEET OF FRONTAGE ALONG RUTH WALL ROAD WITH AN EXISTING DRIVE APPROACH ACROSS FROM DOVE LOOP ROAD.
THE APPLICANT ALSO PROPOSES A 24 SQUARE FOOT PORTABLE ATTENDANT SHELTER LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE AND 292 SQUARE FEET GUEST WHETHER SHELTERS LOCATED ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PARKING LOT TO THE EAST AND NORTH.
THE PARKING LOT WILL BE SECURED VIA AN EXISTING BARBED WIRE FENCE ALONG RUTH WALL ROAD AND THEY WILL ALSO INSTALL A NEW SWING GATE INTO THE PARKING LOT AND SOME ADDITIONAL INTERNAL BARBED WIRE FENCE.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES MR. L. BEAMS AND CHARLES PACIONI, ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT EITHER THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
THEY ALSO DO HAVE TECHNICAL REPRESENTATIVES FROM THEIR CIVIL DESIGN FIRM HERE AS WELL.
>> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR TATE, AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS.
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS LOT SERVES MULTIPLE PURPOSES FOR US AT THE RESORT.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, EVERY YEAR WHEN WE HAVE OUR CHRISTMAS, OUR ICE CELEBRATION, AND OUR ICE SHOW, WE END UP HAVING TO USE OFF-PROPERTY LOTS.
WE USE THOSE LOTS TO PUT OUR ASSOCIATES TOO, AND HAVE THE BUS THEM INTO THE PROPERTY, AS WELL AS OVERFLOW FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ENJOYING THE ICE FESTIVITIES AND OUR LONE STAR CHRISTMAS.
BRINGING THIS LOT INTO FIVE ACRES OF AN EXISTING 30-ACRE PARCEL, ALLOWS US TO, ALONG WITH AN ADDITIONAL LOT WE HAVE ADJACENT TO IT, WHICH WE TERM LOT R, WHICH IS ON TURNER STREET, TO KEEP OUR STARS AND OVERFLOW PARKING IN THE SAME GENERAL AREA.
WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO SAVE A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR US THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THESE OTHER LOTS, AND ALSO HELP US GET OUR PEOPLE AND OUR GUESTS IN AND OUT OF THE FACILITY IN A MUCH EASIER FASHION.
BEYOND JUST THE NEED FOR CHRISTMAS, AND BY THE WAY, WE ONLY FEEL DURING THE CHRISTMAS TIME, WE WILL UTILIZE THIS SLOT 13 TO 16 TIMES.
[01:20:03]
SO THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WILL HAPPEN AS SOON AS WE OPEN UP ICE IN NOVEMBER, RAN ALL THE WAY THROUGH JANUARY.THESE ARE ONLY ON THOSE MAJOR NIGHTS WHERE WE DRAW A LARGER NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
TYPICALLY FRIDAY, SATURDAY NIGHTS, AND THEN WHEN THE KIDS ARE OUT OF SCHOOL, STARTING OUT WEDNESDAY, THE KIDS ARE OUT OF SCHOOL, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE NEW YEAR'S DAY HOLIDAY.
IT'S A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE THIS LOT FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
BUT ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, WE ARE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND THE RESORT.
[7. Conditional Use Permit CU23-20 (Three Barrels Beer Garden (Ferrari’s Italian Villa and Chop House)) - City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Jane Secchi requesting a conditional use permit to amend the previously approved site plan CU20-25 (Ordinance No. 2021-04) for a planned commercial center to allow for the possession storage, retail sales, and on and off premise consumption of alcoholic beverages (beer, wine and mixed beverages) specifically to allow the addition of City Council August 15, 2023 Page 3 two outdoor pergolas with additional outdoor seating, outdoor speakers and an 8- foot-tall screening fence. The subject property is located at 1200 William D. Tate Avenue and is currently zoned “CC”, Community Commercial District. ]
THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION OUT THERE ON THE LARGE RESORT AREAS, AND WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS OF HOW WE CAN ADD MORE TO THE GAYLORD TEXAN.ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IS ADDING AN INDOOR WATER PARK FEATURE TO OUR RESORT, WHICH WILL HELP US DRAW MORE PEOPLE OFF-SEASON WHEN WE DON'T HAVE OUR OUTDOOR PARADISE SPRINGS WATER PARK OPENED.
HAVING THIS ADDITIONAL PARKING, AND THE REASON THEY'RE JUST TEMPORARY IS SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE, EXCUSE ME, THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND, IS THIS THE RIGHT SIZE OF A LOT? DO WE NEED MORE PARKING? DO WE NEED LESS PARKING, AS WE ADD NEW FACILITIES TO THE RESORT? DOWN THE LINE, WE ARE LOOKING TO ADD ADDITIONAL CONVENTIONAL SPACE, ADDITIONAL GUEST ROOMS, AND GET BIGGER, SO THAT WE STAY COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKETPLACE.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, THE GOAL FOR THIS IS TO GET THIS BUILT UPON APPROVAL BY THIS YEAR, TO WHICH YOU UTILIZE IT ON A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF DATES.
IT WILL BE DARK ON THE DAYS THAT WE DON'T DO IT.
THEN WE'LL FIX ONE OF OUR MAJOR PAIN POINTS WITH OUR GUESTS AND WITH OUR ASSOCIATES, WHICH IS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING ON SOME OF THESE DATES TO ACCOMMODATE THE DEMAND. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU INDICATED THAT AT THIS POINT ICE WOULD BE YOUR MAIN USE.
>> UNLESS THERE'S SOME OTHER STRUCTURES OR SOMETHING ELSE MAYBE BUILT.
RECENTLY THERE WAS A MENTION ABOUT EMPLOYEES MAY NEED TO-
>> EXCUSE ME, LARRY, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
>> YOU NEED TO MOVE TO THE MIC.
>> IN OUR BRIEFING THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT EMPLOYEES MAY BE USING THAT FACILITY TOO, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> ON SPECIFIC DATES IT'S POSSIBLE THAT EMPLOYEES WOULD PARK THERE.
WHEN WE HAVE LARGE GROUPS THAT HAVE LARGE LOCAL ATTENDEES, THEY GET OUR PARKING FIRST AND FOREMOST.
WHEN WE RUN OUT OF PARKING WE ASK OUR EMPLOYEES TO PARK OFF-SITE AND WE BUS THEM ON-SITE.
SO ON THOSE SPECIFIC DAYS, INSTEAD OF BUSING THEM ALL THE WAY OFF-SITE ON A LOT OUTSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY AREA, WE'D BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT LOT.
WE ALSO USE WHAT WE CALL LOT R. IT ISN'T LIKELY WE WILL USE IT VERY OFTEN FOR ASSOCIATES, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE.
>> I GUESS, THE WORD TEMPORARY I UNDERSTAND PRETTY WELL I THOUGHT, BUT 5-8 YEARS SEEMS A LOT LONGER THAN TEMPORARY, SO WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT?
>> WELL, THE COST OF BUILDING THIS LOT IS NOT CHEAP.
VERSUS OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO PUT A LARGE, PERMANENT PARKING STRUCTURE, AND AT THIS POINT, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PROPERTY WILL DO DOWN THE LINE AS IT CONTINUES TO GROW.
BUT WE WANT THE OPPORTUNITY OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AS A MINIMUM TO UNDERSTAND AND STUDY IS, IS THIS THE RIGHT NUMBER OF SPACES? IS THIS THE RIGHT SPACE FOR US TO POTENTIALLY DO PARKING DOWN THE LINE? WE KNOW FROM OUR CHRISTMAS PROGRAM HAS GROWN, SINCE 2017, THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE THESE PARKING SPACES DURING THAT TIME OF YEAR.
WE KNOW THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A ONE-YEAR THING TO HAVE THE NEED FOR THESE PARKING SPACE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED THESE PARKING SPACES GOING FORWARD.
BUT IS THAT SPECIFICALLY THE RIGHT SPOT? WE'D WANNA DO SOMETHING PERMANENT, WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THE WORD TEMPORARY IS IN PLAY. JUST MY PHONE.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE MATERIAL USED FOR GRAVEL.
WE TALKING LIKE CRUSHED GRANITE, JUST ROCK, OR WHAT YOU ALL THINKING?
>> GOT IT. MAYBE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR ERICA, OR MAYBE YOU ALL CAN ANSWER TOO IS, IF WE DON'T LET YOU DO THE LOT, CAN WE NOT PARK CARS THERE IN THE GRASS ANYWAY? WHAT ARE WE [INAUDIBLE]
>> YOU CAN'T PARK CARS THERE BECAUSE IF IT RAINS AND IT'S MUD, IT BECOMES COMPLETELY UNUSABLE, AND WE DO GET INCLEMENT WEATHER NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
WE HAVE IN THE PAST TRIED TO USE OTHER AREAS ACROSS THE STREET.
WE'VE UTILIZED THE GREAT WOLF LOTS BEFORE, IN THEIR AREA, THEY'D LET US USE IT AND IT RAINS, AND IT'S COMPLETELY USELESS TO US AT THAT POINT.
HAVING THE GRAVEL ALLOWS US TO HAVE A SAFE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN PARK.
ALSO IN INCLEMENT WEATHER, WE ARE COVERING FOR THEM, AND WE CAN GET PEOPLE QUICKLY FROM THAT LOT AS LONG AS OUR ADJACENT LOT TO THE PROPERTY QUICKLY.
>> JUST REALLY QUICK. DO YOU HAVE A MASTER PLAN FOR THIS OVERALL AREA AT ALL, AND IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE A PARKING LOT IN THE FUTURE?
[01:25:03]
DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY KIND OF IDEA OF WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE?>> DOWN THE LINE, IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT THAT WILL BE A PARKING LOT IN THE FUTURE.
IT'S LIKELY THAT IT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE SOMETHING ELSE, WHICH IS AGAIN, WHY WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT PERMANENT.
>> GO BACK TO WHAT LARRY WAS SAYING.
WHAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME, YOU SAID FIVE YEARS.
BUT DO YOU REALLY NEED FIVE SEASONS?
>> I THINK WE NEED FIVE YEARS BECAUSE, NOT ONLY FROM THESE SEASONS, BUT IT'S WHAT IS THE ADDITIONAL GROWTH PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'RE GOING TO START WORKING ON THIS ADDITIONAL INDOOR WATER PARK.
WE HAVE ONE OF THESE AT OPRYLAND, IT'S CALLED SOUNDWAVES.
IT'S GOING TO BE 60-80,000 SQUARE FEET.
IT'LL BE CONNECTED TO THE PROPERTY.
WE NEED ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES TO HELP WITH THE ADDITION OF THAT FACILITY IF APPROVED ONTO OUR PROPERTY.
THAT FACILITY WILL BE AVAILABLE NOT JUST FOR HOTEL GUESTS BUT FOR LOCALS AS WELL TO UTILIZE, SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING AN 80,000 SQUARE-FOOT INDOOR WATER PARK, SO WE NEED THAT.
IN ORDER FOR US TO DO IT EFFICIENTLY, WE NEED TO LOCATE IT WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE ANOTHER LOT.
IF WE LOCATE IT IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AREA, WE'RE GOING TO BE DRIVING BUSES ALL OVER THE PLACE, USING FUEL, CREATING CARBON, AND JUST NOT BEING A VERY GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN.
KEEPING THOSE LATS CLOSE TO EACH OTHER FOR NOW, HAVING THIS LOT IN PLACE FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS, WE WOULD EXPECT IF THE WATER PARK IS APPROVED AND WE BUILD IT HAVE IT WITHIN TWO YEARS.
THAT WOULD GIVE US AN ADDITIONAL 2-3 YEARS WITH THIS SLOT TO UNDERSTAND PARKING, NOT ONLY FOR CHRISTMAS, BUT WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS WATER PARK.
>> I THINK THERE'S A GATE, SO IT WILL BE SECURE WHEN IT'S NOT BEING USED.
>> I'VE GOT A QUESTION. WHAT ARE YOU DOING CURRENTLY WITH THE OVERFLOW PARKING DURING THE HOLIDAYS?
>> LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A SECONDARY LOT THAT WE USE.
ON THIS PAST YEAR, WE RENTED A LOT OUT ABOUT, WHAT'S IT CALLED, THE DART STATION.
IN THE PAST WE'VE USED THE MALL PARKING LOT, WE'VE USED CHURCHES, WE'VE USED GREAT WOLF ACROSS THE STREET, AS CHRISTMAS HAS BECOME MORE POPULAR FOR ALL OF THEM, WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO ANYMORE.
>> YOU SAID YOU JUST DO IT DURING THE PEAK TIMES, DURING CHRISTMAS, 13-16 TIMES DURING THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY?
>> WELL, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES WE POTENTIALLY COULD USE IT ON 4TH OF JULY, DEPENDING UPON WHEN 4TH OF JULY FALLS.
THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES IF WE HAVE A LARGE LOCAL GROUP.
FOR INSTANCE, THIS LAST YEAR WE HAD AN ANIMATION GROUP.
WE HAD 12-15,000 LOCAL PUPILS SHOW UP.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING.
THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS DON'T HAPPEN THAT OFTEN, BUT THEY DO HAPPEN.
THERE IS OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WOULD USE THE LOT OUTSIDE OF THE CHRISTMAS SEASON, IT JUST ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE USING ON A REGULAR BASIS.
>> THEN THE INDOOR WATER PARK, IS THAT GOING TO BE INSIDE THE CURRENT FACILITY, OR YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER BUILDING EVENTUALLY?
>> THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BUILT ONTO THE EXISTING BUILDING IN A DIFFERENT SIDE OF THE RESORT.
>> WHAT KIND OF SECURITY ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ON THIS LOT?
>> WELL, WE HAVE FULL SECURITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE RESORT, SO WE WOULD JUST BE EXPANDING OUT INTO THE LOT.
OUR PARKING PARTNER, TOWN PARK, WILL BE THE ONES WHO MAN THE LOT.
BUT OUR ON PROPERTY SECURITY WILL ALSO BE MANNING THAT LOT.
BOTH WITH CAMERAS AND WITH PERSONNEL.
>> YOU HAVE A FULL HOUSE ON A SATURDAY NIGHT, DO YOU TURN THE LIGHTS OFF AT THE END OF [INAUDIBLE] TIME?
>> YES. WHEN THE FUNCTIONS IN THE HOTEL ARE OVER, GENERALLY EVERYTHING IS OFF AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, MAXIMUM.
BUT ICE CLOSES AT 10:00, SO THE GOAL WOULD BE TO PARK CARS ONLY IN THERE THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE FOR THE DAY AND WILL BE LEAVING AT 10 O'CLOCK, SO THE LIGHTS WOULD GO OUT THEN.
OUR GUESTS WOULD PARK ON THE PROPERTY PARKING AREAS.
WE WILL BE UTILIZING THESE AREAS FOR LOCALS TO PARK IN, AND THEN UTILIZING OUR SHUTTLES TO SHUTTLE THEM ONTO THE PROPERTY.
>> MAYOR, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
ON YOUR PLAN, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HAVE IT LOOKS LIKE 700 SPACES HERE.
I DON'T SEE WHERE THE PICKUP AREA IS.
WHERE DOES SOMEBODY STAND TO CATCH THE SHOW.
[NOISE] I'M MISSING THAT BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALL A PERIMETER.
[NOISE] WHERE DO THEY GO TO THE SHELTER PLACE?
>> THERE ARE SHELTERS FOR THEM, BUT THE TROLLEY DOESN'T MAKE PASSES UP AND DOWN THE LANE.
>> IT PICKS HIM UP WHEREVER THEY'RE PARKED.
IT'S ON A CIRCULAR PATTERN IN TERMS OF HOW THE SHUTTLE GOES.
THEN PICKS THEM UP WHENEVER, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> A ROUTE THROUGH WE'RE ALSO CONNECTING IT TO A SIDEWALK SYSTEM IN A CROSSWALK.
[01:30:04]
ANYONE CHOSE, THEY WANTED TO WALK TO THE HOTEL, THEY COULD DO THAT AS WELL.>> IS THERE SET TIMES THE SHUTTLE WILL COME THROUGH.
>> THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS WHERE THE BRUNSON USED TO LIVE, THE PREVIOUS OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY.
THAT'S IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE OVER THERE, ARE YOU PLANNING TO CLEAN THAT UP OR TAKE THAT BUILDING DOWN OR DO SOMETHING.
IT'S COVERED PRETTY MUCH BY TREES, BUT IT'S NOT IN VERY GOOD SHAPE.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN A PARKING LOT THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE VISIBLE FOR PEOPLE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO CLEAN THAT AREA UP? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT?
>> I SEE IT HERE WHERE IT SAYS ABANDON.
>> WE'RE NOT TOUCHING ANY OF THE TREE LINES OR ANY TREES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHY THE PARKING LOT AS A STEP BACK IN IT.
>> WE'RE LEAVING ALL THE EXISTING TREE LINES AND VEGETATION.
>> I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDINGS.
>> NOTHING ON THE BUILDING AT THE TIME.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO JUST STAY THERE, WHATEVER'S THERE.
BECAUSE THERE'S SOME STUFF THERE, THAT'S NOT JUST TREES.
>> WELL, I THINK WE WOULD LOOK TO MAKE IT [INAUDIBLE]
>> OKAY. I WOULD HOPE. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR.
>> BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, IF THE GUESTS PARKS THERE AND LOOKS OVER AND SAYS, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
>> EXACTLY. IT'S NOT REALLY WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO PRESENT.
>> WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT ANYWHERE [NOISE] THAT THERE'S A VIEW WITHIN THAT LOT.
>> BUT IT IS CLEANED UP [INAUDIBLE]
>> [NOISE] I TRIED TO BRING THIS IN. FOR THE RECORD.
THE GAYLORD HAS BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL AS HAS ICE AND THE LONE STAR CHRISTMAS.
AS A RESULT OF THAT, GAYLORD IS PLANNING TO BUILD INDOOR WATER PARK AND OTHER BED TOWER AND EXPAND THE CONVENTION CENTER.
BUT THE FOOTPRINTS OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE SOMEWHAT SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL.
PART OF THEM AT LEAST WERE CRITICAL OF THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS THAT TAKE SOME TIME.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO GET THE NECESSARY APPROVALS AND GET THOSE BUILDINGS LOCATED AND DRAWN AND BUILT.
IN THE MEANTIME, YOU NEED PARKING AS A RESULT OF YOUR EXISTING FACILITIES.
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE CALLING IT TEMPORARY.
YOU WILL HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY BUILD ANOTHER PARKING GARAGE WHERE THE EXPANSION BUT YOU'RE NOT FOR SURE WHERE THAT WILL BE YET UNTIL YOU KNOW FOR SURE THE FOOTPRINTS OF THE OTHER FACILITY.
>> YEAH. ALL THAT MAKES SENSE.
JUST IN READING IT BEFOREHAND WHEN IT SAID TEMPORARY FOR 5-8 YEARS, THAT IS NOT WHAT I THINK OF IS TEMPORARY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION.
>> CAN WE DO SOMETHING WHERE IT'S PERHAPS A SHORTER TIME AND WE COME BACK AND REVISIT IT FOR A POTENTIAL RENEWAL.
IF WE GET, SAY 3, 4 OR 5 YEARS DOWN THE LINE.
HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY ON WHAT THE BROADER MASTER PLAN LOOKS LIKE.
>> YEAH, I THINK WE'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT THE BROADER MASTER PLAN WITHIN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
I THINK THE MINIMUM WE'D LIKE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT ON THE LOT IS FIVE YEARS.
>> THEN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW FACILITIES, THAT CONSTRUCTION TIME TO THE NEW GARAGE OPENS UP.
>> YEAH. MAY BE WE TIE THOSE TOGETHER AT THAT POINT WHEN WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO WORK WITH AT THAT POINT?
>> MR. APACHE, ON A YOU-ALL HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN A GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN.
YOU'VE BEEN VERY GOOD FOR THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE.
I'M EAGER TO GET ALL OF YOUR CARS PARKED BACK IN OUR CITY WHERE THEY BELONG AND YOUR VISITORS AS WELL, AND SO I THINK THE LOT WOULD BE A GOOD DEAL.
I LIKED THE FIVE-YEAR TERM AND IF YOU WOULD PUT A NOTATION IN YOUR FILE TO COME BACK AND GIVE US AN UPDATE IN THREE YEARS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO DO AND I THINK IT WOULD BE WELL RECEIVED JUST TO UPDATE US.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?
>> WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> PERMISION TO CLOSE MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.
[INAUDIBLE] THEY WERE ALL OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES.
CARRYING IS NOW OPEN ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SEE YOU 23 DASH 19, ERICA MAHRONIC.
>> THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH CU 1812 TO CONSTRUCT A NEW CONCRETE ACCESS DRIVEWAY OFF OF RUTH WALL ROAD TO THE GAYLORD TEXAN RESORT PROPERTY FOR USE BY GAYLORD OWNED VEHICLES IN THE CITY OF GRAPEVINES EMERGENCY SERVICES VEHICLES.
THIS IS THE GAYLORD PROPER, AND ON YOUR SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE GENERAL LOCATION CIRCLED IN RED OF THE PROPOSED ACCESS DRIVE.
IT IS THE APPLICANTS INTENT TO REMOVE APPROXIMATELY 30 LINEAR FEET OF AN EXISTING SIX-FOOT CONCRETE BLOCK SCREENING WALL ADJACENT TO RUTH WALL ROAD AND GAYLORD LOADING DOCK AREA IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A 20-FOOT WIDE CONCRETE ACCESS DRIVEWAY ONTO THE EXISTING GAYLORD DRIVEWAY.
[01:35:05]
THIS NEW ACCESS DRIVEWAYS FOR USE BY GAYLORD OWNED VEHICLES, SUCH AS SHUTTLES, ARE TRAMS, AND FOR THE CITY'S EMERGENCY SERVICE VEHICLES.IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY AT THE RESORT AND IN SOME OF THEIR PROPERTIES.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A SIX-FOOT METAL DUAL SWING GATE THAT WILL SWING TO THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY AND WILL BE USED TO CLOSE OFF THIS ACCESS AT NON-PEAK TIMES.
DURING THE YEAR, THE NEW ACCESS WILL MAINTAIN A TEN FOOT BY TEN FOOT VISIBILITY TRIANGLE ALONG THE DRIVER APPROACH TO PREVENT ANY OBSTRUCTIONS, ANY LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE REMOVED DURING CONSTRUCTION ALONG RUTH WALL ROAD WILL BE REPLACED UPON COMPLETION OF THE NEW ACCESS DRIVEWAY.
THIS COMPLETE STAFF'S PRESENTATION, MR. BEAMS AND MR. PACIOLI ARE ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT EITHER THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
>> HELLO AGAIN. DURING ICE, OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE ON THE HOTEL IS GETTING PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE RESORT.
[CITIZEN COMMENTS ]
BECAUSE SO MANY CARS ARE COMING IN.WE HAVE TWO WAYS OF ACCESSING THE RESORT.
ONE IS THE FRONT AND ONE IS THE RUTH WALL AREA THAT COMES FROM THE BACKSIDE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
IN ADDITION TO HAVING THIS PARKING AREA, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO RELIEVE THE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING INTO THE RESORT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, SO IT DOESN'T BACKUP.
WHEN WE PICK OUR GUESTS UP, BOTH IF WE HIT GET THIS ADDITIONAL LOT PLUS AND OUR OTHER A LOT, WHICH WE CALL LOT R. INSTEAD OF THESE CARS GETTING IN LINE TO TRY TO FIND PARKING SPACES AT THE RESORT WHICH AREN'T AVAILABLE.
THOSE CARS WILL PARK IN THESE TWO OFFSITE LOTS, OR INSTEAD OF US GETTING INTO OUR TRAMS AND TROLLEYS AND GETTING IN LINE WITH ALL THESE OTHER CARS.
WE WOULD GO ALONG THE BACK SIDE OF DOVE AND ENTER THE BACKSIDE OF OUR CONVENTION CENTER INTO THIS GATE.
WE WOULDN'T BE THE ONLY VEHICLES DOING SO GUESTS WOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
ONLY CITY OF GRAPEVINE VEHICLES WOULD.
THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A PAIN POINT IN A TRAFFIC POINT OFF OF OUR RESORT.
THAT HAS BEEN A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR US FOR YEARS, WHERE WE HAVE CARS BACKING UP SOMETIMES ALL THE WAY OUT TO HEIGHT TO THE ONE TO THE 24.
IT'S ALSO GOING TO TAKE A MAJOR PAIN POINT FOR PEOPLE WHO DO CHRISTMAS PARTIES AT OUR HOUSE, NOT OUR HOUSE AT OUR HOTEL. I DO LIVE IN GRAPEVINE.
>> ARE YOU INVITING US? [LAUGHTER]
>> BUT WE LITERALLY HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GET TO THEIR CHRISTMAS PARTY BECAUSE THEY'RE IN LINE BY ALL THESE CARS TO GET INTO THE RESORT.
AGAIN, THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE INSTRUCTED TO PARK INTO ONE OF THESE SATELLITE LOTS, GET INTO ONE OF OUR TROLLEYS WHICH WILL GO ALONG THE BACK SIDE AND DROP THEM OFF.
IT'S GOING TO DECREASE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA SIGNIFICANTLY.
IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT A LOT EASIER AND MORE POSITIVE FOR OUR GUESTS TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE RESORT, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE PEOPLE MAKE THEIR CHRISTMAS PARTY TIME-FRAMES THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IN THE PAST.
THIS SIMPLE PROCESS REALLY CREATES A HUGE POSITIVE EXPERIENCE FOR OUR GUESTS.
FOR OUR STAFF IS GETTING TO WORK ON TIME AND FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY NOT HAVING TO SEE THESE LONG LINES GETTING INTO THE RESORT.
WE'RE HOPING FOR APPROVAL ON THIS GATE.
>> QUESTION JUST POPPED IN MY MIND.
YOU'RE ASSUMING YOU GET APPROVAL FOR YOUR PREVIOUS PARKING, WILL THAT'D BE FREE PARKING.
>> NO. [LAUGHTER] NO, SIR. THAT'S IT WON'T BE FREE.
IT WILL BE REDUCED PARKING VERSUS BIG PARKING CLOSER TO ON RESORT PROPERTY, BUT IT WILL NOT BE FREE VISIT.
[9. Mass Gathering Permit (FunBox) – City Council to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by George Tadros requesting a mass gathering permit to allow an outdoor bounce park in the Grapevine Mills parking lot, adjacent to the corner of West Grapevine Mills Circle and East Grapevine Mills Circle. The applicant is requesting the event from September 13, 2023 to November 20, 2023. The subject property is located at 3000 Grapevine Mills Parkway and is currently zoned “CC”, Community Commercial District. ]
>> THIS PHOTO, THIS IS NOT WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO DROP CUSTOMERS OFF.
>> THE PICTURE THEY WANTED TO SEE THE TYPE OF GATE IN THE MIDDLE TO SHOW GATE.
>> WITH PERFORATED METAL SO IT'S JUST A PICTORIAL LOGO PUT ON THE GATE.
>> ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, WE HAVE IN ALLEYWAYS, WE CALL IT WHERE WHEN WE DO DROP PEOPLE OFF, THEY GET DROPPED OFF AND THEY WALK THROUGH THIS PART OF OUR CAMPUSES CENTER AND OTHER INTO THE ICE AREA.
THERE'LL BE DROPPED OFF IN THE SAME SPOT THEY ARE NOW.
THEY JUST WON'T HAVE TO WAIT BEHIND CARS TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE RESORT.
>> CHECK WITH THE NEW PARKING LOT.
SO IF I'M COMING DOWN GAYLORD TRAIL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SIGNAGE LETTING ME KNOW THAT THE PARKING IS FULL AND I'M GOING TO HANG A LEFT ON RUTH WALL TO GO TO THE REMOTE.
[01:40:03]
YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP IT FROM EVERYTHING GETTING JAMMED UP BY THE HOTEL.>> YOU KNOW THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW ACCESS.
I LIKED THE NEW ACCESS, BUT WITH THE GOAL BEING TO KEEP THEM FROM GETTING.
>> THE GOAL IS AND KEEP THEM FROM COMING ALL THE WAY TO THE HOTEL.
THE GOAL IS TO PRE-SELL PARKING IN A CERTAIN LIGHT.
PEOPLE WOULD BUY A TICKET TO ICE.
IN THAT YOU WOULD BUY YOUR PARKING, YOU WOULD BE ASSIGNED A LOT.
WE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM DRIVING ALL THE WAY IN IN CAUSING THE BACKUP AND GOING STRAIGHT TO THEIR LOT, THEN BEING PICKED UP AND BRING TO THE RESORT.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? APPARENTLY NOT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE.
MY FAVORITE QUESTION IS, WELL, DID YOU CLOSE THE MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL?
>> ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IT'S CARRYING HIS OPEN ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SEE 23-20, ERYTHEMA CHRONIC.
>> THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH CU 2025 FOR A PLANNED COMMERCIAL CENTER, WITH THE POSSESSION, STORAGE, RETAIL SALE, AND ON-AND-OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
THIS REQUEST IS SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF TWO OUTDOOR PARABOLAS, ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SEATING, OUTDOOR SPEAKERS, AND AN EIGHT-FOOT-TALL SCREENING WALL OR EXCUSE ME, FENCE AND CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESTAURANT, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS AN EXISTING RESTAURANT.
THE THREE ARE ACTUALLY FERRARI'S ITALIAN VILLA AND CHOP HOUSE, AND THIS IS KNOWN AS THE THREE BARRELS BEER GARDEN IS LOCATED AT 1,200 WILLIAM DICTATE AVENUE AND PRESENTLY ZONE CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
WITH THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO ADD IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING OUTDOOR DINING AREA LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH ELEVATION OF THE RESTAURANT.
IT INCLUDES A 262 SQUARE FOOT PERGOLA AND A 477 SQUARE FOOT PERGOLA, EACH OF WHICH IS 10 FT IN HEIGHT.
SIX NEW SPEAKERS TO EACH OF THESE PERGOLAS.
THERE IS ONE EXISTING SPEAKER ALONG THAT SOUTH ELEVATION FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN IF APPROVED.
THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING 54 NEW SEATS, OUTDOOR, AND AN EIGHT-FOOT WOODEN SCREENING FENCE ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
TOTAL SEATING PROPOSED IS 370 SEATS, 250 OF WHICH ARE WITHIN THE EXISTING RESTAURANT INSIDE, AND 120 SEATS OUTDOORS.
TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING FOR THE ENTIRE RESTAURANT DEVELOPMENT IS 124 PARKING SPACES AND 138 PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED, NO OTHER PROPOSED CHANGES ARE OCCURRING ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE EXISTING LOT BEYOND SOME ELEVATION CHANGES THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN WHERE YOU SEE THAT SCREEN FENCE ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
THE APPLICANT, MS. JAYNE SCHETCH IS HERE THIS EVENING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSIONER COUNCIL MAY HAVE TO HER PROPOSAL.
>> WHAT ARE THE SPEAKERS GOING TO BE USED FOR?
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT? YOU NEED TO COME UP?
I THINK WE KNOW MOST OF YOU AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR, AND ALL THE ZIP PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
>> YOU NEED THIS MICROPHONE, IF YOU WANT ANYBODY TO HEAR YOU.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YOU CAN HEAR THE ENGLISH ACCENT NOW.
YOU CAN. GOOD. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR ALL OF YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE.
MY HUSBAND, FRANCESCO, AND I'M JANE, WE'VE BEEN AT FERRARI'S RESTAURANT FOR 16 YEARS NOW AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GONE.
FINALLY, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO OPEN OUR NEW BEER GARDEN, WHICH WE'RE CELEBRATING OUR 40TH YEAR IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS ON OCTOBER THE 26 IN DALLAS, SO THAT IS QUITE AN ACHIEVEMENT FOR US AND WE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN A BEER GARDEN ON THAT DAY.
WE'VE GOT TO GET SOME CONSTRUCTION THINGS MOVING AND THAT'S WHY TODAY IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO, AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT HERE THAT'S GOING TO BE CHANGING.
WE'RE PUTTING THE PERGOLAS IN THE BACK BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, IN THIS SUMMER, WE'VE HAD EXTREME HEAT.
THAT BACK GARDEN IS RATHER OPEN RIGHT TO THE END OF THE PARKING LOT.
WE HAVE THE TWO PERGOLAS WITH SHADE FOR OUR PARTICIPANTS AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A FAMILY AREA.
IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO EAT AT FERRARIS AND HAVE A WONDERFUL WHITE TABLECLOTH EXPERIENCE.
BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY WE WANT TO TRY YOUR FOOD IN A CASUAL AREA.
SO THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.
[01:45:01]
WE'LL BE DOING STREET FOOD AND PEOPLE COULD COME IN WITH THEIR FAMILIES.IT WILL BE DOG FRIENDLY OUT THERE.
SO REMEMBER ALL THE DOGS, VERY WELCOME.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GAMES OUT THERE TOO.
WE'LL PROBABLY BE DOING SOME SPECIALTY EVENING STUFF WITH TRIVIA AND BINGO AND OTHER STUFF LIKE THAT WHEN THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON OTHERWISE.
REALLY IT'S JUST A MATTER OF AN EXTENSION OF WHO WE ARE.
BUT IN A CASUAL ATMOSPHERE, AND PEOPLE COULD COME WITH A BULK APPS AND THEIR FLIP-FLOPS AND HAVE A GOOD TIME INSTEAD OF BEING DRESSED UP.
WE'VE HAD THAT REQUEST FOR A LONG TIME.
WE WILL BE FEATURING OUR SONS BEAR GAVIN FROM THREE NATIONS BREWERY.
THAT'S GOING TO BE QUITE EXCITING THING FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE KEEPING THE FAMILY TOGETHER.
WHEN WE DO OPEN THE RESTAURANT, WE'RE BRINGING OUR MICHELIN STAR CHEF STEFANO, WHO IS OUR FIRSTBORN.
HE'S COMING IN FROM NEW YORK AND WE'LL BE DOING A COOKING DEMONSTRATION THAT NIGHT TOO WITH TWO MITTENS STAR CHEFS AND PROBABLY SOME BRAZILIAN BARBECUE OR SOMETHING AND SOME MUSIC OUTSIDE FOR EVERYBODY TO ENJOY THAT.
BUT WE'VE GOT A QUICK TURNAROUND.
OCTOBER 26TH IS COMING UP VERY FAST.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH ELSE TO SAY EXCEPT MY HUSBAND'S ITALIAN.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE SO THAT WE CAN TRANSLATE FOR HIM TOO.
>> WELL, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I HAVE BEEN MARRIED 48 YEARS SO FAR SO GOOD. HERE WE ARE, OF COURSE.
I THINK WE ARE VERY PROUD TO DO LIKE JANE SAID THIS IS BEAUTIFUL, WE GOT SUCH A GREAT RESPONSE FOR THE CUSTOMERS ALL THE TIME.
IT TAKES SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE IN THE BACK FOR EXAMPLE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL GARDEN FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE TRIED TO TRIM IT TO MAKE A NICE, VERY COMFORTABLE SO EVERYBODY IS VERY EXCITED TO COME TO HAVE GREAT PARTIES WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
A FEW SELECTED AFTER THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
WE ARE VERY PROUD THAT WOULD BE 40 YEARS NOW IT TO CELEBRATE ESPECIALLY HERE IN GRAPEVINE, TEXAS AND THEY SAID IF FRANCESCO, HOW DID WE CHOOSE YOUR FERARRI IN TAXES? I SAID REMINDS ME VERY MUCH SURVEYING VARIOUS BONY RAYS AND HERE WE ARE.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY HERE?
>> YOU BACK UP TO PASTE BURGER AND THOSE SHOPS THAT ARE THERE ON THAT?
>> SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT DEAL TO ME, BUT IT'S GONE.
BE A NIGHTMARE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THERE WITH ALL THE NOISE AND THE PEOPLE IN THE MUSIC AND ETC.
>> WELL, THERE AREN'T MANY PEOPLE LIVING THERE ANYWAY AND THE NOISE.
>> THEY ARE MILES ACROSS THE STREET.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY ON TIGHT?
>> YES, SIR. I CAN'T SEE A LOT OF SOUND.
>> WELL, WE HAVE A LOT OF SOUND FROM THE CARS, FROM WILLIAM TO TAKE.
>> I'M JUST TELLING YOU YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE A NIGHTMARE FOR THOSE PEOPLE.
TOO MANY PEOPLE, TOO OPEN, TOO MUCH MUSIC, TOO MANY SPEAKERS, TOO MUCH NOISE. WRONG PLACE.
>> WELL, I BELIEVE IN OUR ATTITUDE AS VINO RAISE A FAMILY.
THEN WHERE PEOPLE THEY COME, BOTH OF US WE'RE MOSTLY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THOSE OVER THERE.
MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A GREAT CONTROLLING IN PHARISEE.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CRITICAL ROLE ALSO OVER THERE IN THE BACKUP FOR THAT.
EVERYBODY IS VERY EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO ORGANIZE, TO DO SOMETHING VERY NICE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THEY COME FROM GAYLORD.
THEY KNOW THEY'VE BEEN COMING FOR 16 YEARS.
WHENEVER THEY FINISHED HERE, I HAVE A NICE DINNER.
FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAD TO GO, LET'S GO GET SOME FRESH AIR, FOR EXAMPLE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE CREATING TO WELCOME SUCH A GREAT SPORT.
THEY HAVE A GREAT MERELY FERRARIS.
THEY HAVE GOT A NICE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE, TWEET THE GARDEN, OF COURSE, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED FOR IT.
>> YOU DON'T SHOW IT ON THIS PARTICULAR DRAWING, BUT I SEE WHERE YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR NEW PARKING LOT AND WHAT YOU HAVE THERE EXISTING.
WHERE DO YOU PROPOSE TO HAVE YOUR SPEAKERS? HOW MANY AND WHAT HAVE YOU MADE PLANS FOR ON THAT?
>> ACTUALLY, THERE HAS BEEN SPEAKERS PUT INTO THIS PARTICULAR PATTERN THAT I DIDN'T ASK FOR BECAUSE WE HAD TO TURN THIS AROUND RATHER QUICKLY TO GET IT HERE.
[10. Consider Resolution No. 2023-014 approving the use of the proposed ad valorem tax rate of 0.250560 per $100 to calculate property tax revenue for the Fiscal Year 2024 Budget, and take any necessary action. ]
I DON'T THINK THAT IS NEEDED, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.WE PROBABLY ONLY NEED TWO, MAYBE THREE AT THE MOST BECAUSE THAT AREA IS RATHER A LARGE AREA, AND THE SIDE WHERE THE NEW PARABOLA IS GOING TO BE,
[01:50:04]
IT DOES NEED TO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS GOING TOWARDS WILLING TO TAKE, SO YOU COULD HAVE THAT ENERGY GOING UP THAT END.BUT THERE'S TOO MANY SPEAKERS THERE IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, BUT THAT WAS PUT IN HERE JUST IN CASE.
>> LET'S GET REAL THEN BECAUSE THE SPEAKER IS OBVIOUSLY ARE AN ISSUE.
YOU HAVE ONE EXISTING POWER GOAL, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> WE HAVE TWO AT THE BACK AND ONE IN THE FRONT. THAT'S SMALL THOUGH.
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE BACK, IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> IT SAYS YOU'RE GOING TO AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL HURDLES.
DO YOU HAVE ONE EXISTING PARABOLA IN THE BACK?
>> WE HAVE TWO EXISTING IN THE BACK.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR A NEW ONE AND WHERE WOULD IT BE? [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU DON'T HAVE THREE BURGLARIES IN THE BAG?
>> THERE WILL BE FOUR IN THE BACK.
>> FOUR IN THE BACK. YOU'VE GOT TWO IN THE BACK NOW,
[11. Council to consider approving and adopting the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) Transition Plan, and take any necessary action. ]
YOU'RE ASKING FOR ONE MORE AND WHERE DID THE FOURTH ONE COME FROM?>> WELL, IT'S ON THE SITE PLAN HERE.
THERE ARE TWO THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN THERE.
AGAIN, WITH THE TWO THAT'S THEIR EXISTING.
>> WHICH SPEAKERS DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE BACK?
>> HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE BACK?
>> JUST ONE, FOR TWO EXISTING CARTILAGE BACK THERE.
IF YOU'RE ADDING TWO MORE PARABOLAS AND THEY HAD ONE SPEAKER TO EQUATE THEM, THEN THAT WOULD GIVE YOU 2P, TWO SPEAKERS IN THE BACK.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH THAT?
>> I WOULD PREFER THREE IF WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IT'S A LARGER AREA.
>> I UNDERSTAND. COULD YOU LIVE WITH TWO THOUGH?
>> MAYOR CAN YOU LIVE WITH TWO OR THREE SPEAKERS BACK THERE?
>> NO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THAT CAN'T KEEP THE NOISE ON THEIR PROPERTY.
>> THERE'S A SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH, THERE'S A SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST, AND THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO BE DISTURBED AT NIGHT WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO REST.
WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FOR YEARS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PRETTY LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND SO MANY SPEAKERS, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN CONTROL IT.
WE'VE HAD THAT BEFORE, IT BECOMES A NIGHTMARE AND ONCE YOU APPROVE IT, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
>> THE DISTANCE FROM THESE PROPOSED PARABOLAS AND SPEAKERS TO THE RESIDENTIAL, TO THE EAST, BECAUSE YOU'D BE GOING ACROSS WILLIAM DETAIL.
YOU'VE GOT FIRESTONE, THE CHICK-FIL-A, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT BALLAS TREATS.
WHAT'S THAT DISTANCE FROM THESE TWO?
I WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE.
>> I'M GOING TO MAP TO SHOW US WHAT'S THAT.
>> I'M SORRY, OUR MASS DOESN'T EVEN SHOW THE NEARBY RESIDENTIAL.
>> LET IT GO THROUGH ALL THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> THIS IS IT, THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.
>> I DON'T SEE ANY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH.
>> NO, IT WOULD BE TO THE EAST, BE OF THE MAP.
>> THAT MAP DOESN'T SHOW THE RESIDENTIAL.
>> WELL, NO. THAT'S BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GO OUT FAR ENOUGH.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT MAP DOESN'T SHOW IT.
>> BUT IT'S PROBABLY A COUPLE 100 FEET ANYWAY.
>> LET'S JUST GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND SEE WHAT WE MAY ASK.
>> MAY I ASK WHAT YOUR HOURS IS GOING TO BE?
>> YES, WE'RE NOT A LATE NIGHT RESTAURANT OF ANY KIND.
>> WE'RE NOT A LATE NIGHT FACILITY OF ANY KIND.
WE'RE FAMILY ORIENTATED, SO OUR REGULAR RESTAURANT CLOSES AT 09:30 AS OUR LAST ORDER, 10:00, POSSIBLY LAST BY PEOPLE LEAVING.
WITH THE CASUAL RESTAURANT, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY 10:30, POSSIBLY 11:00 AT THE WEEKENDS, BUT NOTHING LATER THAN THAT.
>> THIS ISN'T MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU BROUGHT BACK IN 2020.
WAS IT WAS A 2021? IT'S VERY SIMILAR, THAT WAS APPROVED?
>> YOU DIDN'T GO FORWARD WITH IT?
>> NO, WE HAD SOME FINANCIAL SITUATIONS THAT OCCURRED AND WE HAD TO PULL OUT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN YOU'VE APPROVED BEFORE.
>> WELL, WE ARE. WE'VE BEEN 16 YEARS IN THE RUNNING, SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THIS DONE.
>> DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?
>> MR. MAYOR, IF THE COUNCIL AND COMMISSION WOULD REFER TO THEIR LOCATOR MAP AND THEIR BACKUP MATERIALS BASED ON THE SCALE.
IT LOOKS THE NEARBY RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST WOULD BE AT LEAST 400 LINEAR FEET AWAY FROM THE EXISTING PROPERTY LINE OF THE RESTAURANT ALONG WILLIAM DICTATE.
>> MOST SPEAKERS WOULDN'T CARRY THIS WITH THEM.
[01:55:03]
>> MISTER CHAIRMAN, DID YOU ALL CLOSE?
>> NOT YET. THE MOTION IS CLOSED.
>> THE COMMISSION CLOSED MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.
WE ARE CARRYING THROUGH ALL CLOSE THE PLANS.
THEY WILL NOW MOVE TO THE RIGHT AND WAITING ROOM.
YOU'RE INVITED TO ATTEND MAT OR YOU CAN STAY WITH THE COUNSELOR OR LOOK FOR OUR AGENDA.
>> WE'LL CALL THIS PORTION [INAUDIBLE] CONSIDER OUR AGENDA [INAUDIBLE] EVERYBODY.
FIRST ITEM IS CONSIDERED ZONING CHANGE Z 2301.
>> I SYMPATHIZE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS BUT I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE BETTER OFF WITH RESIDENTIAL THERE THEN THEY WOULD, THE ALTERNATIVES.
>> I CAN SUPPORT YOU IN THAT. I THINK [INAUDIBLE].
DEVELOPS YOUR COMMERCIAL BEHIND RESIDENTIAL.
>> [INAUDIBLE], IT ALL AROUND IT OTHER THAN 60 OTTAWAY.
>> THE BUFFER DIFFERENCES AS THE ARGUMENT, BUT I STILL BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN THERE I DONT THINK IT COULD BE ENOUGH.
>> LOOK YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TALL THOSE BUILDINGS ARE?
>> THEY COULD BE. NOT TO MENTION LIGHTING TO, HAVE A LOT OF A LOT MORE FACTORS OF THAT.
STUFF. LIKE IT'S NON-RESIDENTIAL AND STUFF.
>> [INAUDIBLE] RESTRICTION CONCEPT IS A PRETTY GOOD IDEA.
>> WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PRESCRIPTION.
>> PRETTY SOUND, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT FAR THINGS WE CAN USE, CONDITIONAL USE.
>> WE CAN PROBABLY SUGGEST THAT THEY INCLUDE A DEED RESTRICTION SINCE THEY OFFERED IT FOR, THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY TO NOT CUTTING TREES SOUTH? DRAINAGE? I'M NOT SURE THAT ANYWAY, BUT THE PART OF OUR ISSUE IS THAT WHEN THIS WAS A PLANNED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, IT WAS A LOT LARGER TRACK.
>> IT TAKES DOWN A LOT OF OPTIONS FOR A PLAN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
>> WHEN WE DO THIS THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH WAS PART OF THE BCD AND IT GOT MOVED TO R5.
IT CHANGES THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE FOREST.
I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO KEEP THAT TOO, BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
YOU NEED TO PROBABLY BUY IT IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT.
>> WELL I KNOW THAT [INAUDIBLE],MAYBE TREE THEY CAN SAVE IS, GOOD FOR [OVERLAPPING] IT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.
>> THIS DENSITY, I DON'T SEE IT AND SAY MONITORED.
>> ESPECIALLY WITH THE [OVERLAPPING] SOLUTION.
>> WELL, THEY COULD WORK AT SAVING SUNDAY MOVEMENT.
>> COULD YOU STILL ONLY HAVE 20% OF PROPERTY,
[29. Zoning Change Application Z23-01 (Oak Hill) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-038, if applicable, and take any necessary action. ]
STILL HAS TO BE GREEN SPACE OR IDENTITY, ASKED ME PERSIA.SO THERE'S STILL PLENTY IN HER PROPERTY [INAUDIBLE].
>> [INAUDIBLE] THERE'S NO REASON THAT I WANT TO GET RID OF ANY DIDN'T HAVE TO.
>> THESE ARE MUCH BIGGER LOTS AND WHAT THE MINIMUM THAN WHAT THEY COULD BE.
[INAUDIBLE],SO THEY ARE BIGGER.
>> REALLY LIKED THE IDEA OF DOING THE DEED RESTRICTION AND WE CAN, WITH THE ZONING, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
>> I DON'T THE SENIOR CAN'T BE A PARTY TO THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
I KNOW. I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT.
I THINK WE'VE HEARD TESTIMONY FROM BORN THAT THEY WOULD DO THAT.
I THINK WE WERE AND-A-HALF TO TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT.
THEY HAVE IT ON VIDEO SO WE CAN PLAY IT BACK WARM SOME POINT IN TIME, I GUESS.
>> I JUST WANT TO REITERATE HERE.
[OVERLAPPING] JUST WANT TO REITERATE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S WORK NOWADAYS DOESN'T SEEM TO MEAN AS MUCH AS IT USED TO.
BUT OUR ORIGINAL DESIRE WAS FOR THOSE TREES TO BE PROTECTED.
THIS IS A WAIVER WHERE FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE STILL DO THAT? WE WOULD CERTAINLY COMMIT TO THAT, EVEN THOUGH YOU ALL MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE IT.
[02:00:12]
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE SOVIET HUGE APPLICATIONS DAY 23-L1.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE 23-L1.
>> ALL IN FAVOR, UNOPPOSED [INAUDIBLE] PRELIMINARY [INAUDIBLE] REPORT.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PROVED THE STATEMENT OF FINDINGS OF PRELIMINARY PLAT SWAPS ONE TO 21 BLACK ONE OKO.
>> ALL IN FAVOR? WANT TO OPPOSE TO PROVE 61 [NOISE] FINAL PLAN.
>> MOVE THAT PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION PROVED THE STATEMENT OF FINDINGS SOME FINAL PLAT LABS ONE THROUGH 21 BLACK ONE OKO.
>> ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSE TO PRODUCE 61.
I CONSIDER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
>> AREA OF ENTERTAINMENT [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].
WELL, SINCE WE'RE ALL ON THE AGE GROUP, RIGHT.
>> REMEMBERING THAT PLANNING AND ZONING APPROVED CONDITION, WE USE APPLICATION.
SPECIALTY CERTIFICATION ISSUE 22.
>> I MOVE IT. PLANNING INTIMIDATE YOUR SPECIAL USE APPLICATION.
>> [INAUDIBLE] CONDITIONALLY, WE'VE SEEN 23, [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE NEED TO PUT A TIME FRAME ON IT.
AFTER FIVE YEARS AND THEN THEY CAN COME BACK AND POSSIBLY GET MORE YEARS.
>> DO WE ASK FOR THEM TO COME IN THREE YEARS.
>> YOU CAN GIVE US ABOUT GOOD.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON A SOLUTION THAT IS A LONG TERM.
>> THEY CAN ALWAYS COME AND ASK FOR AN EXTENSION.
BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FIVE YEARS IF THEY COME AND GIVE US SOMETHING DURING YEAR THREE TO FOUR YEARS, SO WE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
IT ALSO YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER TO APPROVE AN EXTENSION OF THE TEMPORARY.
>> WITH EMOTION VETO THE CONTINGENCY OF IT COMING BACK AT THREE YEARS OR [INAUDIBLE].
[30. Concept Plan CP23-01 (Oak Hill) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and take any necessary action. ]
>> TEMPORARY PARKING LOT FOR FIVE YEARS.
BUT REQUEST THEY COME BACK TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON YOUR PLANS BETWEEN 3-4 YEARS. SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
[31. Preliminary Plat for Lots 1-21, Block 1, Oak Hill – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and take any necessary action. ]
[32. Final Plat for Lots 1-21, Block 1, Oak Hill – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and take any necessary action. ]
I SAY 3-4 HE WAS THERE DURING THE THIRD OR FOURTH YEAR.[33. Conditional Use Permit CU23-17 (EVA Esports) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-044, if applicable, and take any necessary action. ]
>> SEVEN. NOW CONDITIONER YOU SEE 23*10 [INAUDIBLE].
[34. Special Use Permit SU23-03 (EVA Esports) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-045, if applicable, and take any necessary action. ]
>> I'LL USUALLY USE 23 AND 20.
[35. Conditional Use Permit CU23-18 (Gaylord Texan Temporary Parking Lot) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-046, if applicable, and take any necessary action. ]
[02:05:06]
>> SOUNDS GOOD. I THINK IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL [OVERLAPPING] SPEAKERS.
I HAVE THREE SPEAKERS SINCE THE AD SAID THREE SWILL BE MINE.
>> IF SHE'S READ THREE IS ENOUGH.
>> WHAT IT DOES, IT'S NOT JUST THE RESIDENTS SINCE I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE.
GOLAN, BECAUSE THERE ARE THE RESTAURANTS AND THINGS THERE THAT CAN DO SOMETHING SIMILAR.
[36. Conditional Use Permit CU23-19 (Gaylord Texan New Access Driveway) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-047, if applicable, and take any necessary action. ]
WHEN THERE'S SOME VACANT PLACES, THEY COULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR [OVERLAPPING]>> WE'RE SAYING THREE ADDITIONAL PLUS THE ONE THEY ALREADY GOT?.
>> TOTALLY UP FOR YOU ADDITIONAL PRACTICE.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
[37. Conditional Use Permit CU23-20 (Three Barrels Beer Garden (Ferrari’s Italian Villa and Chop House)) – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Ordinance No. 2023-048, if applicable, and take any necessary action.]
SEE YOU IN 23 - 20, WITH THE CONDITION THAT THERE ARE ONLY 3 ADDITIONAL THREE NEW SPEAKERS.IN JULY 18. ANYTHING [INAUDIBLE].
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JULY 18TH 2023.
>> I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE AUGUST FIRST.
>> ALL IN FAVOR? ONE ABSTENTION 60.1 COLUMN FOR AN ATTORNEY.
NOW WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> ALL IN FAVOR.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.