[CALL TO ORDER]
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WE'LL CALL THEM 07:00 O' CLOCK MEETING TO ORDER.
THE COUNCIL SAYS TO THE CITY COUNCIL CONFERENCE ROOM TO CONDUCT A CLOSED SESSION RELATIVE TO THREE CATEGORIES THAT CONSULT WITH LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY AND REGARDING PEN AND LITIGATION UNDER SECTION 551071 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE OBEYED.
DISCUSS REAL PROPERTY RELATIVE TO THE LIBERATION OF THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, SALE, OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY UNDER SECTION 55107 TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND C CONFERENCE WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF AND DISCUSSION TO LIBERATE COMMERCIAL FINANCIAL INFORMATION WE'VE SAVED FROM BUSINESS PROSPECTS.
THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE LOCATES DAY OR EXPAND IN THE CITY AND DELIBERATE OFFERS OF FINANCIAL AND OTHER INCENTIVES UNDER SECTION 551087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
WE'LL RECONVENE HERE IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES TAKING A NECESSARY ACTION.
A SESSION THAT BEGAN AT 07:00 O' CLOCK THAT'S AROUND BELOW ANY ACTION OF THE COUNCIL IS A RESULT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION?
>> YES, YOUR HONOR. WE WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ACQUISITION OF THE WORST STREET EASEMENT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE SAME AND TAKE ALL OTHER NECESSARY ACTION.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.
COMPLETES THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
MS. CHAIRMAN, ARE YOU READY? > YES, SIR.
>> WE'LL CALL THE 7:30 MEETING TO ORDER.
I ASKED YOU TO RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE.
>> LET US PRAY. DEAR LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS THAT WE ENJOY LIVING HERE IN THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE.
WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDING HANDS AND LEAD US TO THE MEETING TONIGHT.
MAY WE ALWAYS ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR FELLOW CITIZENS.
WE PRAY FOR PEACE IN OUR COUNTRY AND ABROAD.
WE PRAY FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THE WILDFIRES AND MOWING HERE IN TEXAS AND CANADA.
WE ASK FOR YOUR PROTECTION FOR OUR CITIZENS AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR MILITARY.
WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN.
WELCOME TO OUR MEETING TONIGHT.
WE FIRST FIVE JOINT PUBLIC HEARINGS BETWEEN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL WILL DECLARE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON EACH INDIVIDUAL CASE WOULD ALLOW STAFF TO MAKE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE.
THE APPLICANT WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO ANY OF THESE ITEMS IN OR NOT AN APPLICANT, YOU NEED TO REGISTER WITH MS. BROOKS.
SHE WILL CALL ON YOU AND THE ORDER THAT YOU REGISTER AND THAT WAY WE HAVE A RECORD OF YOUR PARTICIPATION.
AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE CLOSED, FIND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL WILL SEPARATE INTO SEPARATE MEETINGS.
PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING ROOM WILL BE TO THE RIGHT.
YOU'RE ENTITLED TO BE A PART OF THAT OR YOU CAN REMAIN HERE AND BE A PART OF THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
WITH THAT, THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONING APPLICATIONS, Z23_01, COUNCIL PLAN CP2301, AND PRELIMINARY PLAN AND QUANTILE PLOTS OF LOTS ONE THROUGH 21, BLOCK 1 OR THE OAK HILL EDITION OR ERICA MAROHNIC FROM OUR STAFF WILL MAKE THE INTRODUCTION.
>> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS SUBJECTS SITE IS LOCATED AT 4,700 STATE HIGHWAY 360 AND HAS PROPOSED TO BE PLOTTED AS THE OAK HILL SUBDIVISION.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 5.75 ACRES FROM ITS EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT OF PCD PLAN TO COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO AN R5.00 LOT LINE DISTRICT WITH THE INTENT TO DEVELOP 21 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THE SUBJECT SIDE IS OUT THE WEST SIDE OF STATE HIGHWAY 360 AND IS APPROXIMATELY 1,018 FT NORTH OF GLADE ROAD IN THE CITY LIMITS, ADJACENT TO THE CITY OF ULYSSES.
THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WILL FEATURE NEW PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY OAK HILL DRIVE, PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
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THE APPLICANTS CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE ZONING EXHIBIT ILLUSTRATES THE VIABILITY OF A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION RELATIVE TO BUILDING COVERAGE, PLACEMENTS, IMPERVIOUS LOT COVERAGE, AND OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS.THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS REMAINED UNDEVELOPED FOR A TIME AS THE SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH OF IT AND WEST OF IT WAS DEVELOPED IN 2010 WITH A ZONE CHANGE AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OVER TO RELAY REQUESTS TO ZERO LOT LINE DISTRICT FOR 66 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED LOTS, KNOWN AS THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS SUBDIVISION.
THE SUBDIVISION TO THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH WAS APPROVED IN 2012 FOR ZONE CHANGE TO ZERO LOT LINE DISTRICT AND DEVELOPED WITH 69 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED LOTS ON NOVEMBER 20 OF 2012.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL LOW-INTENSITY LAND USE ON MAP 2 OF THE CITY'S LAND USE PLAN OF THE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES, MR. JOSH AND JAKE BORN, ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT TO YOU AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT BOTH THE COUNCIL AND COMMISSION MAY HAVE.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JAKE BORN 3613 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.
MAY IRRITATE AND THE CITY COUNCIL CHAIRMAN OLIVER, IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE TO OUR CITY.
WE ARE REQUESTING A REZONE OF THIS 5.75 ACRE TRACT TO A 21 LOT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SOME OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT A FORESTED AREA.
WHAT WE PLAN TO DO WITH THIS 21 LOT DEVELOPMENT IS WHILE IT IS RESIDENTIAL, 5.00 LOT LINE DISTRICT, I THINK A DISTINCTIVE IS THAT OVER 70 PERCENT OF OUR LATS ARE ACTUALLY 5,500 SQ FT OR BIGGER SO THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE AND OUR 5.0, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IT'S 5,000 SQ FT SO NONE OF OUR LOTS ARE THAT SMALL.
BUT THE THING THAT I THINK IS EVEN MORE NOTABLE IS THAT OUR AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS ACTUALLY 10,100 SQ FT SO OVER DOUBLE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT. AS YOU SAW IN THE FIRST PICTURE, WE HAVE A LOT OF TREES, WHICH WE THINK IS A HUGE ATTRIBUTE FOR US ON THIS SITE.
WE PLAN TO INCORPORATE AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE.
WE'VE GOT VARYING LOT SIZES AND SHAPES AS WELL.
I THINK WITH MOST DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE SEEING NOWADAYS, ESPECIALLY IN DFW AND EVEN IN GRAPEVINE, MOST OF THE PLANS YOU SEE LOOK LIKE THEY WERE DESIGNED ON A PIECE OF GRAPH PAPER.
EVERYTHING IS THE EXACT SAME SIZE, THE EXACT SAME DIMENSIONS.
WE FEEL LIKE THAT ALSO ENHANCES WHAT WE HOPE TO DO HERE, HAVING VARIATION AND LOT SIZES AND SHAPES.
I GUESS I'LL JUST SAY THIS, GOING BACK TO THE TREES, WE WANT TO DEVELOP A SITE WHERE THE HOUSES SIT WITHIN THE TREES RATHER THAN A FEW TREES SITTING IN FRONT OF SOME HOUSES, SO WE PLAN TO UTILIZE THAT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
FROM A COMPATIBILITY STANDPOINT, AS YOU SEE HERE, WE ARE ENVELOPED BY OUR 5.0 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
ADDITIONALLY, A QUARTER ACRE TO THE NORTH, THERE'S AN EVEN NEWER DEVELOPMENT CALLED EASTWOOD'S, WHICH IS ALSO OUR 5.0.
WE FEEL WITHIN THIS CONTEXT THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD FIT IN AND THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE AS A RESIDENTIAL 5.0 DEVELOPMENT.
I'LL PAUSE HERE, AS YOU MAY KNOW OUR REQUEST WAS TABLED LAST MONTH.
WE GOT WORD FROM THE CITY THE DAY BEFORE THIS MEETING LAST MONTH THAT THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION AND CONCERN FROM THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.
MY BROTHER JOSH AND I, TABLED THE REQUEST AND WE HAD A MEETING WITH STONE BRIDGE OAKS AND GLADE HILL ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO AT THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE SPENT ABOUT TWO HOURS WITH THOSE FOLKS AND WENT THROUGH REALLY ALL THEIR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS, PRESENTED OUR PROPOSAL TO THEM.
I THINK BY LARGE, WE'RE ABLE TO ALLAY MANY OF THE FEARS OF THOSE FOLKS.
CERTAINLY THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE OPPOSED NO MATTER WHAT.
PRIMARILY, THE TREES WERE ONE OF THE CHIEF CONCERNS, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
I THINK I'VE ADDRESSED THAT ALREADY WITH YOU GUYS.
BUT I'D SAY BY LARGE, MOST FOLKS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT PROXIMITY AND PRIVACY.
I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT JUST FOR A MOMENT.
WHEN IT COMES TO STONE BRIDGE OAKS, WHO'S TO OUR NORTH AND WEST, OUR ENGINEER'S PROVIDED THIS CROSS-SECTION.
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WE WOULD CUT OUR ROAD IN AND WHERE THAT BLUE LINE IS AND THAT BLUE ARROW, THAT WOULD BE OUR FINISHED PAD HEIGHT.THAT'S AT AN ELEVATION OF 564 FT. STONE BRIDGE OAKS, THEIR FINISH PAD HEIGHT ON THEIR HOMES IS 573 FT. ON AVERAGE WE'RE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENCE OF 8 - 10 FT, BUT THE AVERAGE IS NINE FEET THERE.
THAT'S BASICALLY A FULL STORY THAT OUR HOUSES WOULD SIT BELOW WHERE STONE BRIDGE OAKS CURRENT PAD SITES ARE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, STONE BRIDGE OAKS HAS A 25'3" BUFFER BEHIND EACH PROPERTY'S FENCE LINE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A COUPLE OF HOUSES, THEY HAVE LESS THAN THAT.
MANY MORE HOUSES IN FACT HAVE GREATER THAN 25 FT OF BUFFER.
IF YOU TAKE THE HOUSES BEING LOWER, IN ADDITION TO THAT 25'3'' FOOT TREE BUFFER, THOSE TREES ARE ON AVERAGE PROBABLY 20 FT HIGH.
WE BELIEVE THAT EVEN A TWO-STORY STRUCTURE, WHEN BUILT ON OUR DEVELOPMENT, WILL BE TOTALLY OBSCURED FROM THE TREES IN THE DISTANCE.
SPEAKING TO DISTANCE, IN PLANNING THIS SITE, WE INCREASED OUR LOT DEPTH AN ADDITIONAL 10 FT JUST TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE EXTRA SPACE AWAY FROM STONE BRIDGE OAKS.
I'LL GO BACK TO THIS PICTURE, TO OUR SOUTH YOU HAVE GLADE HILL.
WHAT WE'VE GOT THERE IS WE'VE GOT A CREEK/DRAINAGE DITCH.
ORIGINALLY, WE HAD PLOTTED THAT IN OUR ORIGINAL DESIGN AS HOA GREEN SPACES.
LIKE 1.2,1.5 ACRES OF GREEN SPACE, THAT WOULD BE HOA MAINTAINED.
THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ASKED US TO REMOVE THAT.
THEY WERE CONCERNED IF A TREE WOULD EVER FALL ON THE DRAINAGE DITCH AND JAM IT UP, THAT IT'S HARDER TO FIND OR ENFORCE THE REMOVAL OF THAT TREE ON AN HOA RATHER THAN AN INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER.
WE CHANGED OUR SITE PLAN SO THAT EACH OF THOSE LOTS GOES TO OUR SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
I BELIEVE THAT IS ONE OF THE CHIEF CONCERNS OF GLADE HILL THAT WAS EXPRESSED AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
WE WENT BACK TO THE CITY AND ASKED THE CITY IF WE COULD DEED RESTRICT THOSE TREES TO THE SOUTH OF THAT CREEK.
THERE'S A LOT OF LARGE TREES THAT WE WANTED TO SAVE THAT WOULD PROTECT GLADE HILL FROM A PRIVACY STANDPOINT AND GIVE THEM THAT BUFFER THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT OUR FINISHED HOUSES WILL AT A MINIMUM BE 100 FT FROM THE BACK OF GLADE HILL'S PROPERTY LINE ON UPWARDS TO 150 FT OF DISTANCE.
THERE'S QUITE A DISTANCE ALREADY.
BUT WE FEEL LIKE SAVING THOSE TREES, DEED RESTRICTING THAT GIVES THEM SOME ASSURANCE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE PRIVACY MAINTAINED RATHER THAN SOME GUY THAT'S CHAINSAW HAPPY CUTTING THEM ALL DOWN AND THEN LOOKING AT A BUNCH OF HOUSES.
WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS A GOOD MIDDLE GROUND TO DO A DEED RESTRICTION THERE BECAUSE IT GIVES THE CITY WHAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR.
IT GIVES GLADE HILL THE ASSURANCE THAT THE TREES AND PRIVACY WILL REMAIN AND IT GIVES MY BROTHER AND I WHAT WE HAD HOPED FOR WHICH WAS AGAIN, THAT PRIVACY AND VEGETATION HEDGE THERE.
THIS LAST PICTURE IS JUST A ENVISION HOUSING TYPE THAT WE'VE HAD OUR ARCHITECT DRAW UP.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS WITHIN THE COVENANTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD PLAN FOR THERE TO BE VARYING EXTERIOR SIDING.
IN THIS RENDERING, WE'VE GOT TO JAMES HARDIE LAP SIDING.
WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BRICK AND STONE AS WELL.
CERTAINLY NO VINYL PRODUCT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY AS BEST AS WE CAN WITHIN THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, SO PORCHES WOULD BE ENCOURAGED, EVEN SIDE ENTRY GARAGES, AS YOU SEE HERE.
REALLY CHARACTERISTICS WITHIN THE COVENANTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD GUARANTEE DIFFERENTIATION OF HOUSING TYPES AND ELEVATIONS AS WELL.
WE HAVE TRIED TO BE AS THOUGHTFUL AS POSSIBLE IN THIS PROCESS AS WE'VE ENGAGED WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND TRIED TO PLEASE ALL PARTIES.
I JUST CLOSE BY SAYING MY BROTHER AND I, WE MOVED HERE IN THE LATE '80S, OUR FAMILY DID.
WE LOVE GRAPEVINE. I'M SUPER PROUD TO BE FROM GRAPEVINE.
I GOT BUDDIES IN SOUTHLAKE AND COLLEGEVILLE, AND I WOULD SAY ALL DAY LONG, I'M FROM GRAPEVINE AND I'LL SAY IT THE LOUDEST BECAUSE I LOVE THE CITY.
I LOVE THE VISION OF THE CITY.
I HAVE A SOCCER DAD I MET LAST YEAR FROM LOUISVILLE.
HE SAID, WHERE ARE YOU FROM? I SAID I'M FROM GRAPEVINE. HE SAID OH GRAPEVINE.
HE SAID MY WIFE AND I ARE FROM LOUISVILLE EVERY TIME WE GO TO GRAPEVINE, WE ALWAYS SAY, GRAPEVINE GOT IT RIGHT.
LOUISVILLE, WE ALWAYS SEEM TO GET IT ALMOST RIGHT.
I THOUGHT, MAN, THAT MAKES ME PROUD.
I SAID, WE'VE EXECUTED OUR VISION AS THE CITY WELL.
THAT'S WHAT JOSH AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO.
WE'D LIKE TO EXECUTE OUR VISION FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
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WE THINK THAT THE CITY NEEDS MORE SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, PERSONALLY, QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'D LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MORE FAMILIES HERE.WITH THAT SAID, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS OUR ENGINEER, MR. WARREN COEN. THANK YOU.
>> REALLY QUICK. THE CROSS-SECTION THAT YOU SHOWED, CAN YOU SHOW US LIKE ON THE PLAN VIEW, EXACTLY WHERE THAT MIGHT BE, RELATIVE?
>> THERE WE GO. THE BLUE LINE WOULD BE THE WESTERN LOTS THAT BACKUP TO STONE BRIDGE OAKS.
>> LIKE RELATIVE, CAN YOU GO TO THE POINT OF VIEW AND SHOW WHERE THAT CROSS-SECTION IS.?
I'M SORRY, GUYS. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THIS LASER.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TWO IN THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER OUR TWO LARGEST LOTS, THE CROSS SECTION WOULD BE THE FOURTH LINE UP FROM THOSE BIG ONES.
THAT IS LOT NUMBER 10, AND 19 IS THIS CROSS-SECTION VIEW.
>> YOU'VE GOT A FIVE-FOOT CUT ON ONE SIDE AND ALMOST A SIX-FOOT FELL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN THOSE TREES?
>> BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE A CUT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
>> THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS ARE PRETTY ONEROUS AS FAR AS WE CAN'T CLEAR CUT, WE CAN'T DO ANY SITE WORK UNTIL A HOUSE IS PERMITTED TO BE BUILT, SO WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT.
>> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FENCE THE LOTS UNTIL THEN.
>> PAUL LEE SAID THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO ANY FILL ON LOT UNTIL WE HAD OUR PERMIT APPROVED.
>> I SEE ON YOUR DIAGRAM THAT THERE IS A BUFFER OF TREES ON THE WEST AND THE NORTH SIDE.
ARE YOU ALSO PLANNING ON DOING SOME FENCING?
>> YES. WE PLAN FOR ALONG THE FRONT EDGE TO HAVE A STONE OR BRICK FENCE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ENTRY FOR SOME AMOUNT OF DISTANCE AND THEN IT WILL TRANSITION INTO A ROD IRON.
WE PLAN FOR THAT ROD IRON TO SURROUND THE PROPERTY.
WHEN IT GETS TO THE CREEK, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES THERE, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD TACKLE THAT.
BUT WE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES.
I THINK THAT WAS THEIR DESIRE WAS FOR A PRODUCT THAT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT THAT AGE IS BETTER THAN A WOOD FENCE.
I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY. IT ALSO STILL ALLOWS THE RESIDENTS OF OUR PROPOSED COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SEE ALL THE GREENERY, WHICH WE THINK IS IMPORTANT.
>> I HAVE GOT A QUESTION. YOU SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, THE TREES?
>> YOU'LL SEE ON THOSE FIVE SOUTHERN LOTS, THERE'S A DOTTED LINE.
BELOW THAT DOTTED LINE IS THE CREEK/DRAINAGE POINT.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING DEED RESTRICTIONS ON ALL THOSE TREES SOUTH OF THAT CREEK.
IF YOU WERE TO WALK BACK THERE, IT'S A PRETTY SCUMMY LOOKING AREA.
YOU CAN'T IMAGINE ANY GUYS EVER REALLY GOING TO WANT TO BE ON THAT SIDE BUT HIS YARD, BUT JUST AS A SAFEGUARD WE'RE WANTING TO PUT DEED RESTRICTION ON THE LARGE TREES BACK THERE.
AS FAR AS UNDERGROWTH, I'M NOT SURE IF WE WOULD EVEN CUT THE UNDERGROWTH, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE EMBANKMENT ON EITHER SIDE, PAUL MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR TO US AS WELL.
YOU CAN'T BE CUTTING TREES ON THAT BECAUSE THEN YOU GET INTO FLOW ISSUES, INCREASING THE FLOW.
REALLY FOR US WHERE YOU SEE THAT DOTTED LINE THAT SPLITS THOSE LOTS IN HALF, THAT'S REALLY THE MOST PLAIN PAD SITE WHERE WE ENVISION REALLY THE YARD ENDING.
>> THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WILL BE, CAN'T CUT THE TREES DOWN?
>> YEAH. THE PLAN WOULD BE THAT THESE TREES ARE PROTECTED AND YOU CANNOT.
ANYONE THAT ABIDES TO LAW WILL HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING.
>> YOU SAID THAT WAS SOUTH OF THE CREEK?
>> YEAH. THE PLAN IS SOUTH OF THE CREEK.
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THEY CAN'T, ACCORDING TO THE CITY, CUT.>> I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOUR DEED RESTRICTIONS, BUT DON'T BE SOUTH OF THE CENTER CREEK LINE, RIGHT?
>> YES. THE REASON THAT WE PROPOSE THAT IS JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMS NATURAL THAT IF YOU'RE WALKING UP TO YOUR BACKYARD, ONCE THE SLOPE REALLY STARTS, YOU'RE GOING TO STOP THERE.
BUT IT'S QUITE CLEAR THAT BEYOND THE CREEK IS WHERE SOMEONE PROBABLY IS NOT GOING TO GO.
>> NO MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.
>> THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WON'T BE FOR THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BECAUSE DEED RESTRICTIONS USUALLY AFFECT A NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE GOING PUT DEED RESTRICTIONS ON JUST SPECIFIC LOTS?
>> WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THIS.
WHEN WE ASK THE QUESTION TO THE CITY, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO PUT DEED RESTRICTIONS ON THAT? THEY SAID, WELL, SURE YOU CAN DO THAT. THAT'S THE PLAN.
>> BUT DOES THAT DEED RESTRICTION APPLY JUST TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CREEK OR JUST SOUTH OF THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT LINE?
>> I'M NOT SURE THAT DEFERENCE TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CREEK AND THE DRAINAGE.
>> WELL, THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT LINE IS THE DOTTED LINE YOU HAVE THAT'S BISECTING THE PLOTS.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST SPEAKING TO MR. OLIVER ABOUT THE DOTTED LINE.
WE'RE JUST PLANNING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CREEK BECAUSE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT CREEK, THE TYPOGRAPHY REALLY DROPS THE CITY ENGINEER ALREADY TOLD US YOU CAN'T REALLY TOUCH ANY OF THIS VEGETATION ANYWAY.
WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE PADS SITES BEING LEVELED OUT, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE THAT LINE WOULD ACTUALLY STOP.
>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR FIRST PHOTO THAT SHOWED THAT? THERE YOU GO.
THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WOULD BE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT PHOTO FROM THE BOTTOM OF THOSE TREES THERE AND THEN THERE'S THE GREENERY THAT'S THERE IN-BETWEEN TO THE LEFT OF THE RED LINE, THAT ALL STAYS THERE ANYWAY, RIGHT?
>> THE GREEN TO THE LEFT OF THE RED LINE IS STONE BRIDGE OAKS, DESIGNATED HLA, GREEN.
>> THAT STAYS. TH BOTTOM PORTION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT STAYS VEGETATION, TREES, OR WHATEVER.
>> YES, MA'AM. YOU CAN EVEN SEE ON THAT RIGHT SIDE WHERE IT HIT THE FRONTAGE ROAD, THERE'S ALMOST A TRIANGULAR GREEN SECTION THAT'S QUITE A BIT UP, THAT'S WHERE THE DRAINAGE DITCH GOES UNDERNEATH THE HIGHWAY.
IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEFT SIDE, THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS BUFFER, THAT'S 25 FEET RIGHT THERE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT DISTANCE, WE'VE GOT QUITE A BIT OF DISTANCE ON THAT SOUTH INTO THE CREEK.
>> ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE THERE, I'M JUST GOING BACK TO THE CROSS-SECTION, YOU'RE GOING TO BE BENCHING THOSE LATS AS YOU GET PERMITS.
WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME TREES TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE HOUSE.
WHERE YOU PUT A RETAINING WALL THERE, I PRESUME PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING WEST OF THAT RETAINING WALL, THOSE TREES WILL PROBABLY STAY FAR FROM THE BACK PROPERTY LINE, BASICALLY THE RED LINE HERE.
DO YOU HAVE THAT RETAINING WALL.
>> YEAH, I GUESS I WOULD SAY JUST OFF THE CUFF AT LEAST FIVE FEET BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF IS ALL THE TREE AND ROOT BALLS ON THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS, HOA GREEN SPACE, WE DON'T WANT TO KILL THOSE.
I DON'T KNOW I KNOW THE GENERAL RULE OF THUMB IS THAT AS FAR AS THE BRANCHES GO OUT, THE ROOT SYSTEM ALSO GOES OUT.
WARREN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU COULD ADD THERE.
>> CAN I ASK ERICK A QUESTION REAL QUICK? I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD ON R5O, WHAT IS THE REQUIRED REAR YARD SETBACK?
[3. Zoning Change Application Z23-01, Concept Plan CP23-01 (Oak Hill), Preliminary Plat for Lots 1-21, Block 1, Oak Hill and Final Plat for Lots 1-21, Block 1, Oak Hill – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by 360 Land Partners, LLC requesting to rezone 5.75 acres from “PCD”, Planned Commerce Development District to “R5.0”, Zero-Lot-Line District, and to plat 21 lots. The subject property is located at 4700 State Highway 360. The public hearing was tabled from the July 18, 2023 Joint Meeting.]
>> DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?
>> I CAN TIRE 4707 TAYLOR LANE.
>> [NOISE] CAN EVERYBODY SEE ME? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS DAVID MCINTYRE, AND MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED HERE.
AT 4707 TAYLOR LANE ON THE WEST SIDE OF STONE BRIDGE OAKS SINCE APRIL OF 2014.
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WHEN WE BUILT OUR HOME, WE WERE RELATED TO FIND AN AVAILABLE LOT THAT BACKED UP TO THIS WONDERFUL FOREST.WE EVEN PAID A SUBSTANTIAL PREMIUM FOR THE LOT, AS DID ALL OF US THAT BORDERED THIS DENSE WOODLAND PROPERTY.
THE LOT PREMIUMS RANGE FROM $10,000 IN STONE BRIDGE OAKS ALL THE WAY UP TO $35,000 IN GLADE HILLS.
THE HOMES THAT BACKUP TO THIS DENSE WOODLAND AREA ARE TRULY WHAT MAKES THEM SO UNIQUE AND SPECIAL.
THE MATURE TOWERING 30-FOOT TREES AND LUSH UNDERBRUSH HAVE PROVIDED US WITH A STUNNING PICTURE AS SANCTUARY THAT WE HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF ENJOYING FOR THE PAST NINE YEARS.
HOWEVER, THIS FOREST SERVES MORE THAN JUST AESTHETIC PURPOSES.
IN ADDITION, IT'S A HOME TO A VARIETY OF WONDERFUL NATIVE SPECIES OF ANIMALS LIKE RED TAILED FOX, BOBCAT, BEAUTIFUL BIRDS LIKE CARDINALS AND RED BELLIED WOODPECKERS, AND MANY OTHER INDIGENOUS SPECIES.
LASTLY AND PERHAPS MOST SIGNIFICANTLY, THIS DENSE WOODLAND AREA SUBSTANTIALLY LESSENS THE NEVER ENDING NOISE FROM HIGHWAY 360, WHICH IS ONLY GETTING WORSE AND WORSE EVERY DAY.
[NOISE] HOWEVER, EVERY HOME OWNER WHO BOUGHT IN THIS BORDERING OF THE FOREST AREA KNEW THIS WOODLAND AREA WAS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL.
WE WERE ALL AWARE THAT AT SOME POINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, SOMETHING WOULD BE BUILT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
HOWEVER, THE PRESENT PCD ZONING ACTUALLY SAFEGUARDS US.
AS ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BY CODE, MUST MAINTAIN A MINIMUM BUFFER OF AT LEAST 100 FEET, ASSURING US THE PROTECTION OF AT LEAST A SIZABLE PORTION OF THE FOREST.
IN FACT, WE RELIED UPON THESE ZONING RESTRICTIONS TO PROVIDE AND PROTECT US WITH THIS HUGE 100 FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER WHEN WE MADE OUR PURCHASING DECISIONS.
ACCORDING TO THE PCD CODE, MAINTAINING A PARK-LIKE SETTING IS ONE OF THE PERIMETER BUFFERS PRINCIPAL GOALS IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THE POTENTIAL [NOISE] NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES RELATED WITH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ARE MITIGATED.
HOWEVER, THE DEVELOPERS PROPOSAL TO REZONE ZERO LOT HOMES NOW THREATENS TO TAKE AWAY THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS IRREPLACEABLE GREEN SPACE AND REPLACES IT WITH 21 DENSELY PACKED HOMES WITH ZONING LANGUAGE THAT ONLY REQUIRES A 25 FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER.
THIS WILL NOT ONLY LOWER THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES, BUT ALSO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF OUR RESPECTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS.
ALL EXISTING HOMES THAT WERE WITHIN 200 FEET OR LESS FROM THE FORESTS WERE NOTIFIED OF THIS PLANNED REZONING MODIFICATION JUST LAST MONTH.
OF THE 24 AFFECTED RESIDENTS THAT RECEIVED LETTERS WITHIN THIS 200 FOOT SPACE, 18 HAVE FORMERLY PROTESTED THIS REZONING EFFORT.
[NOISE] AS I SEE IT HERE ARE THE FACTS, IF THIS REZONING IS APPROVED, WE WILL BE FORCED TO ENDURE 21 SEPARATE HOME CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT IN ALL LIKELIHOOD COULD TAKE YEARS TO COMPLETE, AS OPPOSED TO A SINGLE POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WHICH COULD LIKELY BE COMPLETED IN MUCH LESS TIME.
THE FOREST AND ITS WILDLIFE WILL BE ALL BUT DESTROYED BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE ENOUGH SPACE TO MAINTAIN ANYTHING MORE THAN THE MINIMAL 25 FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER THAT THE HOME BUILDER IS REQUIRED TO ABIDE BY.
BECAUSE OF THIS SECLUSION AND PEACE WILL BE REPLACED BY LOOKING AT THE BACKUP NEW ROOFTOPS.
ADDITIONALLY, WE WILL HAVE TO MANAGE THE INESCAPABLE NOISE FROM THE NEW BACKYARD ACTIVITIES OF THESE NEW RESIDENCES, SUCH AS BARKING PETS AND BACKYARD SOCIAL GATHERINGS.
WITHOUT ANY NOISE ABSORBING FOREST REMAINING, THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OBTRUSIVE HIGHWAY NOISE FROM 360.
WITHOUT A DOUBT, THESE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES WILL LOWER THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES, WHICH WILL ALSO INDIRECTLY AFFECT THE CAR PRICING OF ALL 154 NEIGHBORING HOMES IN BOTH EXISTING RESPECTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS, [NOISE] AT LEAST TO SOME DEGREE.
IMAGINE HOW YOUR HEART WOULD SINK AS YOU REALIZE THAT THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME IS LIKELY TO SUFFER.
THE INVESTMENT YOU MADE, THE PLACE WHERE YOU PLANNED TO CREATE LASTING MEMORIES WILL NOW BE OVERSHADOWED BY A CROWDED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
[NOISE] AS YOU PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES, I IMPLORE YOU TO SEE BEYOND THE IMMEDIATE FINANCIAL GAINS OF THIS REZONING PROPOSAL.
WHILE THIS PROPOSED HOUSING PROJECT MAY BRING SHORT-TERM ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO THE DEVELOPERS, THEY WILL COME AT THE EXPENSE OF
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THE COLLECTIVE WELL-BEING OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITIES.THE LONG LASTING AND PERMANENT IMPACT OF LOSING THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FOREST AND ALL OF THE BENEFITS IT PROVIDES IS IMMEASURABLE.
PLEASE HONOR THE TRUST WE HAVE PLACED IN THE CITY'S CURRENT PCD ZONING REQUIREMENTS WHEN WE BUILT OUR HOMES.
JUST AS YOU WOULD DEFEND YOUR OWN HOME, I ASK THAT YOU STAND WITH US TODAY.
I IMPLORE YOU TO REJECT THIS REZONING PROPOSAL.
BY DOING SO, YOU WILL NOT ONLY PROTECT OUR EXISTING HOMES, BUT ALSO UPHOLD THE PRINCIPLES THAT MAKES GRAPEVINE GREAT, A COMMITMENT TO THE WELL-BEING AND HAPPINESS OF ITS EXISTING RESIDENTS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND CONSIDERATION AS YOU DETERMINE [NOISE] THE LONG TERM FUTURE NEEDS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THANK YOU. [NOISE] [BACKGROUND]
>> ERIC MAUER, 338 HILL CREEK LANE.
>> YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THREE MINUTES, EACH SPEAKER HAS THREE MINUTES, SO TRY TO STAY CLOSE TO THEM.
>> THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY.
THANK YOU TO [INAUDIBLE] AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE FOR HEARING OUR CONCERNS.
I AGREE WITH DAVID, I AM IN PROTEST OF THIS ZONING CHANGE.
I ACTUALLY HAVE A VIEW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REZONING AND THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT APPROVING A PLAT AND APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT PLAN ALL IN ONE FELL SWOOP.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE TWO THINGS SEPARATELY.
THERE'S A LOT OF SIMILARITIES TO WHAT [NOISE] DAVID JUST TOLD YOU.
MY WIFE AND I MOVED TO GRAPEVINE IN 2015, WE WERE ON THE GLADE HILL SIDE, SO WE ARE LOT FOR THAT BACKS UP TO THE PROPERTY WHERE THE CREEK IS, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LUCKIER THAN THIS NUMBER OAKS FOLKS CONSIDERING THERE'S A CREEK THERE, THE CREEK GIVES US SOME BUFFER THAT IS REQUIRED JUST BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
HOWEVER, THEY'RE NOT SO LUCKY ON THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS SIDE, [NOISE] YOU'VE GOT LOST THERE GOING DIRECTLY UP TO THEIR LOT LINE AND THERE IS ZERO BUFFER ZONE THAT IS IN PLAY FOR STONE BRIDGE OAKS.
MY WIFE AND I MOVED TO GRAPEVINE FROM PLANO, I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL IN PLANO, I'VE BEEN IN NORTH TEXAS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE SO CLOSE TO OUR PARENTS, SO WHEN WE DECIDED TO BUILD A HOME, THAT'S WHY WE MOVED TO GRAPEVINE AND WE LOVE IT.
WE LOVE THE CITY, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE HERE, AND WE ALSO LOVE HAVING THAT GREEN SPACE BEHIND US, THAT WAS THE REASON WE BOUGHT OUR HOME, WE SPENT AN EXTRA 20 GRAND TO DO SO.
OUR NEIGHBORS SPENT EVEN MORE THAN THAT TO DO SO.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR PROPERTY VALUES, THAT WILL END UP CHANGING, GRANTED MAYBE NOT TO THE SAME EFFECT AS STONE BRIDGE OAKS CONSIDERING THERE IS THAT CREEK BUFFER ZONE.
THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE SOME CHANGES IN THAT REGARD.
WE ARE ACTUALLY HIGHER UP, [NOISE] SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE DIRECTLY INTO THOSE BACKYARDS, WHEREAS THEY SHOWED THE SCALED DOWN PIECE ON THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS SIDE.
I THINK YOU'RE STILL GOING TO SEE THAT THE ROOFTOPS AND THEIR CASE AS WELL, BUT WE'RE HIGHER UP.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE SOUND BARRIER AS WELL, WE HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS, THAT'S A PARTIAL SOUND BARRIER FOR US IN GLADE HILL, MORE SO FOR THE NORTHERN SIDE OF GLADE HILL THAN THE REST OF IT.
BUT IT'S STILL A CONCERN, WILDLIFE, A BIG CONCERN AS WELL.
ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT SITTING BACK THERE IS, ALL THE WILDLIFE, AND BIRDS, AND BEES, AND BUTTERFLIES, AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE, A LOT OF THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE EVEN WITH THE PIECE [NOISE] THAT IS THE CREEK JUST BECAUSE OF THE VAST AMOUNT OF TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HAVE TREE CONSERVATION AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S A BIG DEAL FOR GRAPEVINE.
HOWEVER, WITH THE BEST INTENTIONS OF KEEPING TREES, YOU CAN'T SAY YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP TREES AND THEN BULLDOZE A ROAD AND PUT 21 HOMES THERE.
YOU CAN DO YOUR BEST, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE TREES WILL DISAPPEAR.
WHEN IT COMES TO WHEN GLADE HILL WAS APPROVED WAY BACK IN 2012, THERE WERE FIVE HOME OWNERS ON THE STONE BRIDGE OAK SIDES THAT BUTTED UP AGAINST GLADE HILL.
A COUPLE OF THOSE HAD SIMILAR CONCERNS AND CAME TO THIS EXACT SAME HEARING WHEN [NOISE] THAT HAPPENED BACK THEN WITH THE SAME CONCERNS.
WHAT GLADE HILL DID IS THEY TOOK TWO LOTS AND THEY TURNED HIM INTO A GREEN SPACE.
[NOISE] WE HAVE A PARK THERE AND WE HAVE A GREEN SPACE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TWO LOTS, THE CITY COUNCIL REQUIRED A 50 FOOT BUFFER.
THAT REQUIREMENT IS NOT BEING MET WITH THE WAY THAT IT'S SET UP TODAY.
NOW, GRADE, THERE'S A SMALLER LOT, IT'S A SMALLER NUMBER OF HOMES,
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OBVIOUSLY, YOU PUT A 50 FOOT BUFFER ON THE STONE BRIDGE OAK SIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REMOVE A LOTS.MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY SHOW THAT THERE'S A BUFFER ZONE BECAUSE CURRENTLY THERE IS NONE.
THE ONLY BUFFER ZONE THAT EXISTS IS THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE HOA SIDE OF STONE BRIDGE OAKS.
THE REST WILL BE THAT DROPPED DOWN RETAINING WALL RIGHT UP ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
THERE'S NOT ANY BUFFERS ZONE THERE WHATSOEVER. [NOISE] WHEN IT COMES TO THE REZONING SIDE, JUST LIKE DAVID SAID, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PCD ZONING, THERE IS A LOT MORE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS.
THIS IS WHY WE DON'T WANT THE REZONING AT ALL BECAUSE WE WOULD RATHER ROLL THE DICE WITH WHAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THERE BECAUSE THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE MORE STRINGENT THAN WHAT ARE PLACED ON RESIDENTIAL.
THERE'S A PERCENTAGE OF SPACE THAT MUST BE UNDER OPEN SPACE.
I MEAN, YOU GUYS KNOW THESE RULES BETTER THAN I DO, I HAD TO LEARN ALL THIS STUFF.
WHENEVER A PC JUST GETS CREATED ADJACENT TO AN EXISTING OR ZONE RESIDENTIAL, THAT PORTION OF THE PERIMETER BUFFER YARD, A BUDDING THE RESIDENTIAL SHALL BE DESIGNED TO SCREEN EFFECTIVELY THE ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO MAKE SCREENINGS.
WE'RE NOT REQUIRING THEM TO MAKE A SCREENING.
I THINK SOME OF THESE REQUIREMENTS WOULD NEED TO CHANGE.
WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING WITH THEM, THEY WERE VERY NICE.
WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT PLANS.
HOWEVER, THE SAME PLAN THAT THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER TODAY IS THE EXACT SAME PLAN THAT WE SAW.
THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY CHANGES.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY ACT OF GOOD FAITH TO SAY WE WANT TO DO RIGHT BY THE RESIDENTS.
WE ARE GLADE HILL WILL ACTUALLY LIKE THAT CREEK BED AREA TO BE HOA PROPERTY.
HE DID MENTION THIS DEED RESTRICTION, WHICH I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S STILL GOING TO BE PROPERTY OWNED BY EACH HOMEOWNER, BUT THEN THERE ARE RESTRICTED ON WHAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO WITH THAT AREA.
WE WOULD RATHER THAT AREA BE HOA LAND.
WHEN TALKING TO THE ENGINEERS WHEN IT CAME UP HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THEY GAVE ME THE EXACT SAME THING THEY GAVE THEM, AND OUR INTERESTS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT A LIEN ON PEOPLE'S HOMES IF THEY DON'T PAY TO FIX SOMETHING RATHER THAN GO AFTER AN HOA.
THAT'S APPEASING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY NOT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS.
THIS IS ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS.
I WOULD ASK YOU IF YOU DO APPROVE THE REZONING, WHICH OBVIOUSLY I OPPOSE TO MAKE THAT BACK INTO A GREEN SPACE THAT IS HOA PROPERTY.
THEREFORE, IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES, I MEAN I'M ON THE HOA BOARD FOR GLADE HILL, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK TO THEIR BOARD AND WORKOUT ANYTHING AS A CITIZEN TO GO THROUGH THAT.
THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS, YOU GUYS HAVE A CHOICE.
WE'VE GOT 21 HOMES THAT ARE BEING ADDED TO THIS.
YOU'VE GOT 24 HOMES THAT HAVE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTS, WHICH WEIGHS MORE THAN 21 POSSIBLE NEW RESIDENTS AND PROFIT FOR INVESTORS OR YOUR CURRENT RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE TODAY THAT ENJOY THE SPACE THAT'S THERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> GARY PEARSON, 4724 TAYLOR LANE.
>> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCILORS AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
I AM A RESIDENT OF THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS COMMUNITY AND I'M PRESIDENT OF THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
AS WITH ALMOST ALL QUESTIONS THESE DAYS, THERE ARE VERY DISTINCT AND OPPOSITE OPINIONS FROM OUR HOMEOWNERS REGARDING THIS DEVELOPMENT.
EVEN AMONG OUR HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE MOST CLOSELY AFFECTED, THOSE WITHIN 25 FEET OF STONE BRIDGE OAKS, OAK HILL PROPERTY LINE THERE ARE SOME OPPOSED AND SOME IN FAVOR.
YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM THOSE WHO ARE PROTESTING THE ZONING CHANGE IN DEVELOPMENT.
THOSE PROTESTS IN SUBSTANCE RELATE TO TREES AND GREEN SPACE, NOISE BUFFERS, WILDLIFE, ENVIRONMENTAL AND PROPERTY VALUES.
MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ENJOYED THE TREES AND GREEN SPACE, WHICH PROVIDE RELIEF FROM THE NOISE AND VISIBILITY OF HIGHWAY 360.
IF APPROVED TO A LARGE EXTENT, THIS WILL BE LOST AND NOISE WILL MOST CERTAINLY BE MORE INVASIVE AS TIME GOES BY WHETHER YOU APPROVE THIS ZONING CHANGE OR NOT.
MANY HAVE PAID A GREEN SPACE PREMIUM TO THE DEVELOPERS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FOR THE GREEN SPACE BARRIER AND THIS PREMIUM MAY BE REDUCED.
PROPERTY VALUES MAY BE AFFECTED.
BUT WE CAN ONLY GUESS WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO BE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE DEPENDING UPON THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE DEVELOPED, THE 21 LOTS.
WE APPRECIATE THE COUNTS THAT THE COUNCIL POSTPONE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND YOUR DECISIONS ON THE ZONING CHANGE FOR ONE MONTH.
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THIS HAS PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE HOMEOWNERS FROM BOTH STONE BRIDGE OAKS AND GLADE HILL TO MEET WITH THE OAK HILL DEVELOPERS.WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH DETAILS OF THEIR PLANS, ANNOUNCES TO MANY OF OUR QUESTIONS.
AS A RESULT OF THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, SOME OF THE PROCESS YOU HAVE RECEIVED HAD BEEN RESCINDED AND THE OPINIONS HAVE CHANGED.
ACCORDING TO THE PROTESTS MAP IN YOUR PACKET, THREE OF THE EIGHT STONE BRIDGE OAKS HOMEOWNERS WHO ORIGINALLY PROTESTED THE OAK HILL PROJECT, NOW SUPPORT IT.
STONE BRIDGE OAKS HOMEOWNERS ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY AND OUR NEIGHBORS IN GLADE HILL, ARE JUSTIFIABLY CONCERNED ABOUT NEGATIVE EFFECTS FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT ON THE DRAINAGE AND THE OPEN STREAM, WHICH DRAINS WEST TO EAST ACROSS THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE OAK HILL PROPERTY AND CLOSE TO THEIR HOMES.
THE CITY WAS COGNIZANT OF AND MADE ALLOWANCES FOR THIS STREAM WHEN APPROVING THE GLADE HILL DEVELOPMENT, GREEN SPACE, THE WATERSHED, AND THE TREES WERE PRESERVED.
ACCORDINGLY, WE REQUEST THAT IF THE ZONING CHANGE IS APPROVED, YOU CONSIDER IMPOSING CONDITIONS ON THE APPROVAL THAT WILL REQUIRE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND EASEMENTS ON LOTS ONE THROUGH FIVE, WHICH PREVENT ANY DEVELOPMENT OR TREE REMOVAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT STREAM THAT IS SOUTH OF THE 100-YEAR FLOOD ZONE OF THE STREAM NORTH OF THE PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN OAK HILL AND GLADE HILL.
THAT IS FAIRLY EASY TO SEE ON PAGE 90 OF YOUR PACKET, WHERE THE STREAM AND THE 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN IS IN DARK ACROSS THE BOTTOM, AND YOU CAN SEE SOUTH OF THAT SHOULD BE DEED RESTRICTED AND NO DEVELOPMENT TO TAKE PLACE THERE AT ALL [NOISE].
THIS WILL ALSO BE BENEFICIAL TO THE STONE BRIDGE OAKS HOMEOWNERS IN ADDRESSING POSSIBLE FLOOD PREVENTION AND WATER BACKUP IN THE CHANNEL.
WE'VE BEEN ADVISED BY THE DEVELOPERS THAT IF THE ZONING REQUEST IS NOT APPROVED, IT IS HIGHLY LIKELY THAT THE PROPERTY WILL BE SOLD TO SOMEONE WHO MAY DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL ZONING CONDITIONS.
WE'RE AWARE OF THOSE CONDITIONS AND WHAT POSSIBILITIES EXIST FOR RETAIL, COMMERCIAL, OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES ON THAT SITE.
IN THIS REGARD, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF STONE BRIDGE OAKS ARE SOMEWHAT PRAGMATIC.
BETTER THE DEVIL YOU KNOW, THAN THE ONE YOU DON'T.
WHILE WE LOSE THE TREES AND PERHAPS MOST OF THE NOISE BARRIER, THE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IS PREFERABLE TO MOST OF OUR HOMEOWNERS THAN THAT OF AN UNKNOWN COMMERCIAL ALTERNATIVE.
ACCORDINGLY, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF STONE BRIDGE OAKS OWNERS ASSOCIATION ARE IN FAVOR OF AND SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS TO THIS PROPERTY.
WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT DEVELOPERS HAVE ON THEIR OWN, COME TO YOU WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS, ETC, AND ON THE HEIGHT AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, BORDERING STONE BRIDGE OAKS, WE WILL MAINTAIN OUR 25 FOOT BARRIER THAT CURRENTLY EXIST ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY AND WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPERS PROVIDE ENOUGH DROP AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY THAT THAT WILL ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE NOISE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> ARE YOU HAVING ANY CORRESPONDENCE?
>> YES SIR, THERE ARE SEVERAL IN YOUR PACKET AND THEN IN FRONT OF YOU, THERE'S ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT THREE AND PROTESTS, AND THEN THREE AMENDING THEIR PREVIOUS COMMENTS.
>> THEY ARE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THAT HAVE SIGNED A PETITION THAT REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITY?
>> I'LL LET ERICA ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
>> NO, SIR. WE'RE AT ABOUT 17% OF THE LAND AREA WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
>> THEY HAVE ACQUIRED SUPER MAJORITIES?
>> NO, WE WOULD NEED 20% OR MORE TO DO WITH SUPER MAJORITY REQUIREMENTS.
>> IT DID NOT REQUIRE THE SUPPER MAJORITY?
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? NO, SIR.
>> COUNCIL HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> I NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL
>> MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION CARRIES. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SEE YOU 23 DAYS 17 AND SPECIAL USE PERMITS SU23 DAYS 03. MS. MELONY.
>> THIS IS A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE POSSESSION, STORAGE, RETAIL SALE, AND ON-AND-OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESTAURANT.
IT IS ALSO A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW EIGHT OR MORE SKILL ARE COIN OPERATED MACHINES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A VIRTUAL GAMING ARENA LOCATED AT 2330 WILLIAM D. TATE AVENUE,
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WHICH IS THE HOME INSIGHT OF THE FORMER SKATE LAND SKATING RINK.THE SUBJECT SITE IS PRESENTLY ZONES CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
THIS SUBJECT SITE WAS PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED IN 1996 AS A 32,900 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE-STORY STANDALONE INDOOR ROLLER SKATING FACILITY.
THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO REUSE THE EXISTING BUILDING TO ESTABLISH AN E-SPORTS VIRTUAL GAMING FACILITY, WHICH IS DEPICTED ON THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN WITHIN YOUR PACKET MATERIALS, AND CONSISTS OF AN 18,800 SQUARE FOOT ARENA, A 3,700 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT, BAR AND KITCHEN, AND A 2,400 SQUARE FOOT GAME AREA FOR EIGHT OR MORE SKILL ARE COIN OPERATED MACHINES.
THE DINING AREA IS SET TO ACCOMMODATE 135 SEATS.
WITHIN THE ARENA, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF THE FLOOR PLAN, THERE WILL BE THREE DESIGNATED PLAYER AREAS WHICH WILL ACCOMMODATE A MAXIMUM OF 36 PLAYERS AND NO MORE THAN 12 PLAYERS PER ARENA.
ADDITIONALLY, A NEW EXTERIOR WALLS PROPOSED THAT THE EXISTING MAIN ENTRY LOCATED ON THE EAST ELEVATION, AND SOME UPDATES TO THE ELEVATIONS ARE PROPOSED.
THERE IS AN EXISTING 19 FOOT TALL POLE SIGN WITH APPROXIMATELY 110 SQUARE FOOT EFFECTIVE AREA LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SUBJECT SITE ADJACENT TO WILLIAM D. TATE AVENUE, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO REMAIN.
NO CHANGES TO HEIGHT OR EFFECTIVE AREA OR PROPOSED THEY WILL JUST REPHRASE THAT EXISTING POLE SIGN AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
REGARDING PARKING, TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING FOR THIS PROPOSED USE IS 159 PARKING SPACES AND 159 ARE PROVIDED.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES PROPOSED TO ACCESS AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
THERE WILL BE AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY FROM WILLIAM D TATE AND FROM GRAYSON DRIVE TO THE WEST, AND THEN THROUGH MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE SOUTH.
THE APPLICANT, MR. SALEM TYME, IS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT TO YOU.
HE HAS PREPARED A POWERPOINT AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT BOTH THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
>> SALEM FINE 2330 WILLIAMS TT AVENUE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
I'LL MAKE IT BRIEF HOPEFULLY SO WE CAN GET THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF.
I'M GOING TO PUT A QUICK PRESENTATION ABOUT EVA AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
HERE WE ARE EVA E-SPORTS VIRTUAL ARENAS.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE BRINGING, WE HAVE A CONCEPT BROUGHT FROM FRANCE, BRING IT TO THE US.
THIS IS WILL BE THE SECOND ESTABLISHMENT AND THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES AND IN TEXAS, OF COURSE, BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING HERE.
WHAT WE DO IS WE BRING TOGETHER OUR COMMUNITY UNDER VRE SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT AND WITH A BAR AND RESTAURANT.
OUR MOST IMPORTANT VALUE IS COMMUNITY, WE INTEND AND WE ALWAYS ARE A VALUABLE COMMUNITY PARTNER.
WE PARTNERED WITH THE CHAMBER, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND OUR CURRENT FACILITY.
WE'VE HAD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT OUT TO PLAY GAMES OUT IN OUR FACILITIES AND QUITE A FEW, BUT A BIT OF THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
WE BRING VRE E-SPORTS, WHICH IS THE LATEST AND GREATEST, PROBABLY THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF TECHNOLOGY AND ENTERTAINMENT THAT EXISTS IN THE WORLD TODAY.
IN A HYPER FREE ROAMING ENVIRONMENT, EACH ONE OF OUR ARENAS IS ABOUT 5,500 SQUARE FEET.
LIKE IT SAYS 5620 ON THERE, 5,500 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S PLAYER VERSUS PLAYER FUN.
SOMETIMES WE SHOOT SOME ZOMBIES, SOMETIMES WE LIKE PLAY AGAINST EACH OTHER, BUT IT'S POPULAR THROUGH ALL AGES.
IN FACT, OUR SECOND AND THIRD LARGEST DEMOGRAPHICS ARE FROM THE 35 TO 44 AND THE 45 TO 54 AGE GROUPS.
I EXPECT TO SEE QUITE A FEW OF YOU GUYS OUT THERE AS WELL.
WE ALSO INCLUDE A BARN OR RESTAURANT.
I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR. WE ARE NOT A BAR.
[BACKGROUND] WE DO PROVIDE THAT AS PART OF OUR OFFERING, BUT WE'RE REALLY NEVER OPENED PAST MIDNIGHT AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE, WE WANT TO BE HERE FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND WE PLAN ON BEING A FAMILY FUN ENVIRONMENT.
OUR FIRST LOCATION WAS IN FLOWER MOUND.
WE PICKED THAT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS THAT YOU GUYS PROBABLY DON'T CARE TOO MUCH ABOUT.
BUT IT'S BEEN QUITE SUCCESSFUL, AND OUR [NOISE] COURAGE, GOOGLE RADIANS ARE AT 4.9 FROM OVER 200 PEOPLE THAT HAVE BUT RATINGS IN ON THERE AND WHERE A VALUED PARTNER IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE'RE THE BEST RESTAURANT IN FLOWER MOUND.
WE INTEND TO PUT SOME COMPETITION TO THE GRAPEVINE RESTAURANTS AS WELL. WHY GRAPEVINE? WELL, I THINK GRAPEVINES AN AMAZING CITY.
ACTUALLY, I WAS OUT IN LA AT A CONFERENCE TALKING ABOUT ALL ENTERTAINMENT PLACES IN GRAPEVINE WAS SPONSORING IT TO OUT OF ALL PLACES I WAS IN LA AND GRAPEVINE WAS THE LUNCH SPONSOR, AND HAS SUCH A GREAT REPUTATION FOR BUILDING A COMMUNITY, BUILDING ENTERTAINMENT, AND BRING IN SOME OF THE LATEST AND GREATEST TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT FUNCTIONS TO THEIR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.
OUR PREVIOUS ENTERTAINMENT LOCATION BASICALLY HAS GREAT EXPOSURE TO HIGHWAY 121.
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THE STRUCTURE AND THE SIZE REQUIREMENTS IS PERFECT FOR US, BECAUSE THERE'S NO BEAMS, NO COLUMNS, AND WE CAN TAKE SKATE TOWN AND BRING IT BACK AND FRESH AND HAVE ANOTHER 30 YEARS OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ENJOYING THIS ENVIRONMENT.THEN LASTLY, JUST A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE FOR GRAPEVINE, WHICH WILL PEOPLE IN THE AIRPORT, TOURISM, EVERYBODY IS GOING TO COME INTO THIS FACILITY, ARE GROWING BRAND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, WE'VE HAD SOME AMAZING TIKTOKS IF YOU FOLLOW TIKTOK OR AN ODD, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME GREAT SUPPORT FROM SOME LOCAL CELEBRITIES.
AS YOU SEE CHRIS GRONKOWSKI AND FLAME SWORD, THAT'S NOT HIS REAL NAME OF COURSE, BUT HE IS AN E-SPORTS PLAYER.
WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF A GROWING US BRAND AND GRAPEVINE WILL BE OUR SECOND LOCATION.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING HERE. THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE ANY BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WE HAVE IN OUR PLANS 32 DIFFERENT SECURITY CAMERAS.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY ACTIVE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PERSONNEL LISTED FOR SECURITY.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES SO FAR.
WE DO WELCOME THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COME OUT, FIRE DEPARTMENT COME OUT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LAYOUT IS IT THAT IN ADDITION THOUGH WE ALL HAVE OUR PERSONNEL ARE TRAINED, MAKE SURE WE DO NOT OVER-SERVED, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES.
I SAID, WE'RE NOT A BAR OR JUST THERE TO BE AN ESTABLISHMENT, BUT WE DO HAVE OUTSIDE AND INSIDE CAMERAS FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF ALL OF OUR PERSONNEL AND THE ATTENDEES.
>> OUR HOURS OF OPERATIONS DON'T GO PAST MIDNIGHT ANYTIME.
USUALLY 11:00. THAT'S LIKE ON A SATURDAY, ABOUT 11:00, FRIDAY, 11:00.
AND THEN GENERALLY IS 04:00 IS OUR START TIMES ONLY ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY TO THOSE CHANGE.
FRIDAY GOES TO ABOUT 02:00. AFTERNOON, EVENING.
>> CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GAMES THAT WILL OCCUR IN THE ARENA.
YOU SAY IT'S THREE AREAS WITH 36 PEOPLE.
YET BASED ON OCCUPANCY, THE BUILDING WILL ACCOMMODATE OVER 700 PEOPLE?
>> ABSOLUTELY. FIRST OF ALL, WE DO INTEND TO KEEP ALL THE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS WHERE A BUILDING THAT OCCUPANCY OF 700 PEOPLE. WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE IS OUR GAME BASICALLY LIMITS US TO REALLY WHAT WE DO IS 10 PEOPLE, BUT WE SAY 12.
WE DO 10 PEOPLE PER ARENA AND THAT'S THE USUALLY THEY CAN, THEY CAN PLAY EITHER CO-OPERATIVE SHOOTING ZOMBIES TOGETHER OR 5 VERSUS 5,4 VERSUS 6.
WE ONLY HAVE ENOUGH HEADSETS AND ENOUGH COMPUTERS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE 10 PLAYERS ON THAT ARENA.
THE EXTRA TWO IS BASICALLY OUR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO OUTFIT PEOPLE AND FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY.
EACH ONE OF THOSE ARENAS ARE A SEPARATE GAME.
BUT WE HAVE, OUR FAMOUS GAME IS AFTER H, WHICH HAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT MAPS AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT FUN STUFF TO DO.
BUT WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER GAMES THAT MOST OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS FROM FRANCE.
SOME OF THE OTHER GAMES ARE ALL PHYSICAL ORIENTED.
WE MAY HAVE, [NOISE] I CAN REVEAL A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT MAYBE A VIRTUAL PICKLEBALL AS WELL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMING OUT AS WELL FOR OTHER AGE GROUPS.
>> I TELL ME EXACTLY ABOUT THE GAMES.
>> WELL. I SAW A LOT OF GUNS IN THERE.
>> DON'T MISUNDERSTAND OUR OWN GUNS.
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT, BUT [OVERLAPPING].
>> I WAS PROBABLY CLOSE TO VIRTUAL LASER TAG, IF ANYTHING.
IF YOU'VE EVER DONE LASER TAG OR PAINTBALL, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
THERE'S NO VIOLENCE, NO GORE IN ANY OF OUR GAMES IS ALL DIGITALIZED.
MORE THAN ANYTHING. IT'S THIS COMPETITION.
WHEN YOU GET THAT, WE DO HAVE IT'S ALL SHOOTING ORIENTED AS FAR AS OUR AFTER EACH GAME AND ARE ZOMBIES GAMES, BUT ARE FURTHER GAMES ARE NOT GOING TO BE, LIKE I SAID, THIS DOES COME OUT OF FRIENDS THEY'RE MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE ON GUNS AND VIOLENCE IN THERE AND THEIR GAMING, AND WE RESPECT THAT AS WELL.
THERE IS NO AMMUNITION OR EVEN BLANKS IN THESE.
>> NO, MA'AM. THERE IT ACTUALLY PLASTIC.
WE MAKE THEM WITH 3D PRINTING AND ALL THEY HAVE IS THAT MOTION CONTROLLERS INSIDE THERE.
THEY HAVE NO WORKING FUNCTION OTHER THAN WHAT YOU'D HAVE FOR AN OCULUS.
>> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
>> ONE QUESTION THE TYPE OF GAMES YOU HAVE, I KNOW THAT GAMING IS A HUGE.
IT'S BECOME VERY COMPETITIVE AND IT'S SOMETHING NOW THAT PEOPLE DO FOR A LIVING?
>> THEY HAVE COMPETITION. THIS IS NOT WHAT THAT IS.
THIS IS JUST GAMES LIKE LASER TAG, THAT TYPE OF THING.
IT'S NOT OR ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE COMPETENT?
>> YES, MA'AM. WE DO ACTUALLY DO HAVE LEAGUES AND WE DO HAVE TOURNAMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SO WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE EVENING LEGS, SOCIAL EXAM, COMPETITIVE LEAGUES.
IN ADDITION, WE USUALLY HOLD EITHER MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY TOURNAMENTS AS WELL.
THAT'S ALL AGE GROUPS AND OPENED UP ALL VARIETIES OF PEOPLE.
WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS ENTIRE GAME AND ENVIRONMENT IS THAT, IT'S FREE OF DISCRIMINATION.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT YOU ARE.
YOU'RE OUT THERE IN YOUR PLAN AND YOUR OWN SKILL SET.
DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE AN ATHLETE OR NOT.
>> TEAMS AND LEAGUES THAT ARE ACTUALLY BASED HERE, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE OTHERS COMING IN FROM OTHER AREAS FOR THE TOURNAMENTS.
>> ABSOLUTELY, THAT IS PART OF IT.
IN ADDITION, WE CAN ALSO PLAY ANY OTHER ESTABLISHMENT THAT WE OPENED IN THE UNITED STATES OR IN THE WORLD.
WE CAN BE PLAYING INTERNATIONALLY AND BE HOSTING HERE AT GRAPEVINES.
YOU MAY ACTUALLY SEE A TOURNAMENT HOSTED IN GRAPEVINE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AT SOME POINT, WE DO STREAMED LIVE TO TWITCH ALL OF OUR STUFF AS WELL.
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THAT'LL BE YOUR NAME OF GRAPEVINE WILL BE OUT THERE IN THE TWITCH SPHERE.>> FOOD WILL YOU BE SERVING IN YOUR RESTAURANT?
>> EXCUSE ME? COULD YOU REPEAT THAT?
>> WHAT TYPE OF FOOD WILL YOU BE SERVING?
>> WE HAVE A VARIETY OF FOOD ACTUALLY WE HAVE EVERYTHING FROM LAMB CHOPS, SEARED TUNA STEAK, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SOME AMAZING MAC AND CHEESE.
THEY CAN ADD BRISKET AND CHICKEN, A VARIETY OF STUFF, PIZZA, TACOS.
BUT WE HAVE EVEN HIGH CLASS, I MEAN, SCALLOPS AND IN MUSCLES AND SOME OF OUR FOOD IS ABSOLUTELY STUNNING. YES, MA'AM.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE.
>> YES. CHAIRMAN. WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEROES.
>> COMMISSION CLOSED EMOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.
PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.
>> THIS REQUEST IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AMEND THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH CONDITIONAL USE, 18/12 FOR A PLANS COMMERCIAL CENTER FOR A HOTEL CONVENTION CENTER.
THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TO ADD FIVE ACRES TO THAT PLAN COMMERCIAL CENTER TO CONSTRUCT A 700 SPACE LIGHTED TEMPORARY GRAVEL PARKING LOT.
THE SUBJECT SITES LOCATION IS 816 RUTH WALL ROAD AND THE SITE IS PRESENTLY PLANNED COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
IT IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU AND WITHIN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS, THE APPLICANT IS INTENDING TO CONSTRUCT THIS TEMPORARY PARKING LOT LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF RUTH WALL ROAD AND WITHIN THE FORMER WAGON WHEEL PROPERTY.
THE PURPOSE OF THE PARKING LOT IS TO ACCOMMODATE OVERFLOW GUESTS PARKING FOR THE GAYLORD TAXIS AND SPECIAL EVENTS SUCH AS THEIR ICE EVENT DURING THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS AND CHRISTMAS CAPITAL OF TEXAS.
THE APPLICANT BELIEVES THAT THE OPERATIONAL TIMEFRAME NEEDED FOR THIS TEMPORARY PARKING LOT IS 5-8 YEARS.
THE SITE HAS APPROXIMATELY 841 LINEAR FEET OF FRONTAGE ALONG RUTH WALL ROAD WITH AN EXISTING DRIVER APPROACH ACROSS FROM DOVE LOOP ROAD.
THE APPLICANT ALSO PROPOSES A 24 SQUARE FOOT PORTABLE ATTENDANT SHELTER LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE AND 292 SQUARE FEET.
GUEST WHETHER SHELTERS LOCATED ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PARKING LOT TO THE EAST AND NORTH.
THE PARKING LOT WE'LL BE SECURED VIA AN EXISTING BARBED WIRE FENCE ALONG RUTH WALL ROAD AND THEY WILL ALSO INSTALL A NEW SWING GAIT INTO THE PARKING LOT AND SOME ADDITIONAL INTERNAL BARBED WIRE FENCE.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES, MR. L. BEAMS AND CHARLES PACIOLI, ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT EITHER THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
THEY ALSO DO HAVE TECHNICAL REPRESENTATIVES FROM THEIR CIVIL DESIGN FIRM HERE AS WELL.
>> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR TATE AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS.
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
[NOISE] THE PURPOSE OF THIS LOT SERVES MULTIPLE PURPOSES FOR US AT THE RESORT.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, EVERY YEAR WHEN WE HAVE OUR CHRISTMAS, OUR ICE CELEBRATION, AND OUR ICE SHOW, WE END UP HAVING TO USE ALL PROPERTY LOTS.
WE USE THOSE LOTS TO PUT OUR ASSOCIATES TOO AND HAVE TO BUS THEM INTO THE PROPERTY, AS WELL AS OVERFLOW FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ENJOYING THE ICE FESTIVITIES AND OUR LONE STAR CHRISTMAS.
BRINGING THIS LOT INTO FIVE ACRES OF AN EXISTING 30 ACRE PARCEL ALLOWS US TO ALONG WITH AN ADDITIONAL LOT WE HAVE ADJACENT TO IT, WHICH WE TERM LOT R, WHICH IS ON, WHAT'S THE NAME?
>> TURNER STREET TO KEEP OUR STARS AND OVERFLOW PARKING IN THE SAME GENERAL AREA, [NOISE] WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO SAVE A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR US THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THESE OTHER LOTS, AND ALSO HELP US GET OUR PEOPLE AND OUR GUESTS IN AND OUT OF THE FACILITY IN A MUCH EASIER FASHION.
BEYOND JUST THE NEED FOR CHRISTMAS, AND BY THE WAY, WE ONLY FEEL DURING THE CHRISTMAS TIME, WE WILL UTILIZE THIS LOT,13-16 TIMES.
THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WILL HAPPEN AS SOON AS WE OPEN UP ICE IN NOVEMBER RAN ALL THE WAY THROUGH JANUARY.
THESE ARE ONLY ON THOSE MAJOR NIGHTS WHERE WE DRAW A LARGER NUMBER OF PEOPLE, TYPICALLY FRIDAY, SATURDAY NIGHTS AND THEN WHEN THE KIDS ARE OUT OF SCHOOL, STARTING OUT WEDNESDAY, THE KIDS ARE OUT OF SCHOOL, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE NEW YEAR'S DAY HOLIDAY.
IT'S A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE THIS LOT FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
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WE ARE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND THE RESORT.THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION OUT THERE ON THE LARGE RESORT AREAS AND WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS OF HOW WE CAN ADD MORE TO THE GAYLORD TEXAN.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IS ADDING AN INDOOR WATER PARK FEATURE TO OUR RESORT, WHICH WILL HELP US DRAW MORE PEOPLE OFF-SEASON WHEN WE DON'T HAVE OUR OUTDOOR PARADISE SPRINGS WATER PARK OPEN, AND HAVING THIS ADDITIONAL PARKING AND THE REASON IT IS TEMPORARY, IT SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE, EXCUSE ME, THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND, IS THIS THE RIGHT SIZE OF A LOT? DO WE NEED MORE PARKING? DO WE NEED LESS PARKING AS WE ADD NEW FACILITIES TO THE RESORT? DOWN THE LINE, WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL CONVENTION SPACE, ADDITIONAL GUESTS ROOMS, AND GET BIGGER SO THAT WE STAY COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKETPLACE.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, THE GOAL FOR THIS IS TO GET THIS BUILT UPON APPROVAL BY THIS YEAR, TO UTILIZE IT ON A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF DATES, THEY WILL BE DARK ON THE DAYS THAT WE DON'T DO IT.
THEN WE'LL FIX ONE OF OUR MAJOR PAYING POINTS WITH OUR GUESTS AND WITH OUR ASSOCIATES, [NOISE] WHICH IS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING ON SOME OF THESE DAYS TO ACCOMMODATE THE DEMAND. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU INDICATED THAT AT THIS POINT I ASKED WOULD BE YOUR MAIN USE?
>> LISTS OR SOME OTHER STRUCTURE OR SOMETHING ELSE MAY BE BUILT.
RECENTLY THERE WAS A MENTION ABOUT EMPLOYEES MAY NEED TO USE THAT.
>> HUGHES [INAUDIBLE] WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, [OVERLAPPING] HOLD THE MIC UP.
>> IN OUR BRIEFING THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT EMPLOYEES MAY BE USING THAT FACILITY TOO, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> ON A SPECIFIC DATES, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT EMPLOYEES WOULD PARK THERE.
WHEN WE HAVE LARGE GROUPS THAT HAVE LARGE LOCAL ATTENDEES, THEY GET OUR PARKING FIRST AND FOREMOST.
WHEN WE RUN OUT OF PARKING, WE ASK OUR EMPLOYEES TO PARK OFF-SITE AND WE BUST THEM ON-SITE.
ON THOSE SPECIFIC DAYS, INSTEAD OF BUSTING THEM ALL THE WAY OFF-SITE ON A LOT OUTSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY AREA, WE'D BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT LOT.
WE ALSO USE WHAT WE CALL LOT R.
SO IT ISN'T LIKELY WE WILL USE IT VERY OFTEN FOR ASSOCIATES, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE.
>> I GUESS THE WORD TEMPORARY, I UNDERSTAND PRETTY WELL, I THOUGHT BUT 5-8 YEARS SEEMS A LOT LONGER THAN TEMPORARY.
>> WELL, THE COST OF BUILDING THIS LOT IS NOT CHEAP, IT'S A MILLION-DOLLAR LOT.
VERSUS OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO PUT A LARGE, PERMANENT PARKING STRUCTURE, AND AT THIS POINT, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PROPERTY WILL DO DOWN THE LINE AS IT CONTINUES TO GROW.
BUT WE WANT THE OPPORTUNITY OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AS A MINIMUM TO UNDERSTAND AND STUDY IS, IS THIS THE RIGHT NUMBER OF SPACES? IS THIS THE RIGHT SPACE FOR US TO POTENTIALLY DO PARKING DOWN THE LINE? THEN WE KNOW FROM OUR CHRISTMAS PROGRAM HAS GROWN SINCE 2017 THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE THESE PARKING SPACES DURING THAT TIME OF YEAR.
WE KNOW THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A ONE YEAR THING TO HAVE THE NEED FOR THESE PARKING SPACES, WE'RE GOING TO NEED THESE PARKING SPACES GOING FORWARD.
BUT IS THAT SPECIFICALLY THE RIGHT SPOT WE'D WANT TO DO SOMETHING PERMANENT? WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THE WORD TEMPORARY IS IN PLAY.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE MATERIAL USED FOR GRAVEL.
WE TALKED LIKE CRUSHED GRANITE JUST AREN'T AS ROCKER. WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
>> MAYBE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR ERICA OR MAYBE YOU ALL CAN ANSWER TOO IS, IF WE DON'T LET YOU DO THE LOT, CAN WE NOT PARK CARS THERE IN THE GRASS ANYWAY? [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE CAN'T PARKED CARS THERE BECAUSE IF IT RAINS AND IT'S MUD, IT BECOMES COMPLETELY UNUSABLE AND WE DO GET INCLEMENT WEATHER IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
WE HAVE IN THE PAST TRIED TO USE OTHER AREAS ACROSS THE STREET WE'VE UTILIZED ON THE GRAY WOLF LOTS BEFORE AND THEIR AREA, THEY LET US USE IT AND IT RAINS AND IT'S COMPLETELY USELESS TO US AT THAT POINT.
SO HAVING THE GRAVEL ALLOWS US TO HAVE A SAFE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN PARK.
ALSO AN INCLEMENT WEATHER WE HAVE COVERING FOR THEM AND WE CAN GET PEOPLE QUICKLY FROM THAT LOT AS LONG AS OUR ADJACENT LOT TO THE PROPERTY QUICKLY.
>> JUST REALLY QUICK. DO YOU HAVE A MASTER PLAN FOR THIS OVERALL AREA AT ALL? IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE A PARKING LOT IN THE FUTURE? DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE?
>> DOWN THE LINE, IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT THAT WILL BE A PARKING LOT IN THE FUTURE.
IT'S LIKELY THAT IT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE SOMETHING ELSE, WHICH IS AGAIN, WHY WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT PERMANENT.
>> WHAT WOULD BE THE GO BACK TO WHAT? LARRY WAS SAYING, WHAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME, FIVE YEARS? YOU SAID FIVE YEARS, BUT DO YOU REALLY NEED FIVE SEASONS?
>> I THINK WE NEED FIVE YEARS BECAUSE NOT ONLY FROM THE SEASONS,
[4. Conditional Use Permit CU23-17 and Special Use Permit SU23-03 (EVA Esports) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Site Selection Group requesting a conditional use permit to allow for the possession, storage, retail sale and on and off premise consumption of alcoholic beverages (beer, wine, and mixed beverages) in conjunction with a restaurant and virtual gaming arena. The applicant is also requesting a special use permit to allow eight or more skill or coinoperated machines. The subject property is located at 2330 William D. Tate Avenue and is currently zoned “CC”, Community Commercial District. ]
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BUT IT'S, WHAT IS THE ADDITIONAL GROWTH PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY? FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'RE GOING TO START WORKING ON THIS ADDITIONAL INDOOR WATER PARK.WE HAVE ONE OF THESE AT OPRYLAND, IT'S CALLED SOUNDWAVES.
IT'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN 60,000 AND 80,000 SQUARE FEET.
IT'LL BE CONNECTED TO THE PROPERTY.
WE NEED ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES TO HELP WITH THE ADDITION OF THAT FACILITY IF APPROVED ONTO OUR PROPERTY.
THAT FACILITY WILL BE AVAILABLE NOT JUST FOR HOTEL GUESTS BUT FOR LOCALS AS WELL TO UTILIZE, SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING IN 80,000 SQUARE FOOT INDOOR WATER PARK.
AND IN ORDER FOR US TO DO IT EFFICIENTLY, WE NEED TO LOCATE IT WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE ANOTHER LOT.
IF WE LOCATED IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AREA, WE'RE GOING TO BE DRIVING BUSES ALL OVER THE PLACE, USING FUEL, CREATING CARBON, AND JUST NOT BEING A VERY GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN.
KEEPING THOSE LOTS CLOSE TO EACH OTHER FOR NOW, HAVING THIS LOT IN PLACE FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS, WE WOULD EXPECT IF THE WATER PARK IS APPROVED AND WE BUILD IT TO HAVE IT WITHIN TWO YEARS.
THAT WOULD GIVE US AN ADDITIONAL 2-3 YEARS WITH THIS LOT TO UNDERSTAND PARKING, NOT ONLY FOR CHRISTMAS, BUT WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS WATER PARK.
>> I THINK THERE'S A GATE, AND SO IT'LL BE SECURED WHEN IT'S NOT BEING USED.
>> I'VE GOT A QUESTION. WHAT ARE YOU DOING CURRENTLY WITH THE OVERFLOW PARKING DURING THE HOLIDAYS?
>> LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A SECONDARY LOT THAT WE USE.
ON THIS PAST YEAR, WE RENTED A LOT OUT ABOUT, WHAT'S IT CALLED? THE DART STATION. IN THE PAST, WE'VE USED THE MALL PARKING LOT, WE'VE USED CHURCHES, WE'VE USED GREAT WORTH ACROSS THE STREET.
AS CHRISTMAS HAS BECOME MORE POPULAR FOR ALL OF THEM, WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO ANYMORE.
>> YOU SAID YOU JUST DO IT DURING THE PEAK TIMES, DURING CHRISTMAS, 13-16 TIMES DURING THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY?
>> WELL, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES WE POTENTIALLY COULD USE IT ON 4TH OF JULY DEPENDING UPON WHEN THE 4TH OF JULY FALLS.
THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES IF WE HAVE A LARGE LOCAL GROUP.
FOR INSTANCE, THIS LAST YEAR WE HAD AN ANIME GROUP, ANIMATION GROUP.
WE HAD 12,000-15,000 LOCAL PEOPLE SHOW UP, WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING.
THOSE TYPE OF EVENTS DON'T HAPPEN THAT OFTEN, BUT THEY DO HAPPEN.
SO THERE IS OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WOULD USE THE LOT OUTSIDE OF THE CHRISTMAS SEASON.
IT JUST ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE'D BE USING ON A REGULAR BASIS.
>> THEN THE INDOOR WATER PARK, IS THAT GOING TO BE INSIDE THE CURRENT FACILITY OR WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER BUILDING EVENTUALLY?
>> THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BUILT ONTO THE EXISTING BUILDING IN A DIFFERENT SIDE OF THE RESORT.
>> OKAY. NO QUESTION, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
>> WHAT SECURITY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ON THIS LOT?
>> WELL, WE HAVE FULL SECURITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE RESORT, SO WE'D JUST BE EXPANDING OUT INTO THE LOT.
OUR PARKING PARTNER WITH TOWNE PARK WILL BE THE ONES WHO MAN THE LOT, BUT ARE ON-PROPERTY SECURITY WILL ALSO BE MANNING THAT LOT, SO BOTH WITH CAMERAS AND WITH PERSONNEL.
>> OKAY. YOU HAVE A FULL HOUSE ON A SATURDAY NIGHT, DO YOU TURN THE LIGHTS OFF AT THE END OF.
>> WHAT WOULD BE THE TIME? WHEN THE FUNCTIONS IN THE HOTEL ARE OVER, GENERALLY EVERYTHING IS OFF AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT MAXIMUM.
BUT ICE CLOSES AT 10:00, SO THE GOAL WOULD BE TO PARK CARS ONLY IN THERE THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE FOR THE DAY AND WILL BE LEAVING AT 10 O'CLOCK, SO THE LIGHTS WOULD GO OUT THEN.
OUR GUESTS WOULD PARK ON THE PROPERTY, PARKING AREAS.
WE WILL BE UTILIZING THESE AREAS FOR LOCALS TO PARK IN AND THEN UTILIZING OUR SHUTTLES TO SHUTTLE THEM ONTO THE PROPERTY.
>> MAYOR, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
ON YOUR PLAN YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HAVE 700, IT LOOKS LIKE 700 SPACES HERE.
I DON'T SEE WHERE THE PICK-UP AREA IS.
WHERE DOES SOMEBODY STAND TO CATCH THE SHOW? I'M MISSING THAT, BECAUSE IT'S LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALL A PERIMETER.
WHERE DO THEY GO? TO THE SHELTER PLACE?
>> THERE ARE SHELTERS FOR THEM, BUT THE TROLLEY DOESN'T MAKE PASSES UP AND DOWN THE LANE.
>> SO IT PICKS THEM UP WHEREVER THEY'RE PARKED.
THERE'S NOT SET TIMES, IT'S KIND OF ON A CIRCULAR PATTERN IN TERMS OF HOW THE SHUTTLE GOES AND THEN PICKS THEM UP WHENEVER, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> A ROUTE THROUGH BUT WE'RE ALSO CONNECTING IT TO A SIDEWALK SYSTEM IN A CROSSWALK SO ANYONE CHOSE, THEY WANTED TO WALK TO THE HOTEL THEY COULD DO THAT AS WELL.
>> SET TIMES THE SHUTTLE WILL COME THROUGH.
>> THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS WHERE THE BRUNSON USED TO LIVE, THE PREVIOUS OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY.
THAT'S IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE OVER THERE, ARE YOU PLANNING TO CLEAN THAT UP OR TAKE THAT BUILDING DOWN OR DO SOMETHING? IT'S COVERED PRETTY MUCH BY TREES, BUT IT'S NOT IN VERY GOOD SHAPE AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN A PARKING LOT THERE,
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IT'S GOING TO BE MORE VISIBLE FOR PEOPLE SO DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO CLEAN THAT AREA UP? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? I SEE IT HERE WHERE IT SAYS ABANDONED.>> WE'RE NOT TOUCHING ANY OF THE TREE LINES OR ANY TREES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHY THE PARKING LOT HAS A SETBACK IN IT.
WE'RE LEAVING ALL THE EXISTING TREE LINES AND VEGETATION.
>> I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDINGS.
>> NOTHING ON THE BUILDING AT THIS TIME.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO JUST STAY THERE, WHATEVER IS THERE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME STUFF THERE THAT'S NOT JUST TREES.
>> WELL, I THINK WE WOULD LOOK TO MAKE IT SLIGHTLY.
>> I WOULD HOPE SO, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR.
>> BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, IF THE GUESTS PARKS THERE AND LOOKS OVER AND SAYS, OH, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
>> EXACTLY. IT'S NOT REALLY WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO REPRESENT.
>> WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT ANYWHERE THAT THERE'S A VIEW WITHIN THAT LOT THAT IT IS-
>> IS CLEANED UP AND SITELY, CORRECT.
>> I TRIED TO BRING THIS [OVERLAPPING].
FOR THE RECORD, THE GAYLORD HAS BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL AS HAS ICE AND THE LONE STAR CHRISTMAS.
AS A RESULT OF THAT, GAYLORD IS PLANNING TO BUILD INDOOR WATER PARK AND OTHER BED TOWER AND EXPAND THE CONVENTION CENTER.
BUT THE FOOTPRINTS OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE SOMEWHAT SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OR PART OF THEM, AT LEAST THE CRADLE OF THE 12 ENGINEERS THAT TAKE SOME TIME.
SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO GET THE NECESSARY APPROVALS AND GET THOSE BUILDINGS LOCATED AND DRAWN AND BUILT.
IN THE MEANTIME, YOU NEED PARKING AS A RESULT OF YOUR EXISTING FACILITIES, AND THAT'S WHY YOU ARE CALLING IT TEMPORARY.
YOU WILL HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY BUILD ANOTHER PARKING GARAGE WHERE THEY EXPANSION, BUT YOU KNOW FOR SURE WHERE THAT WILL BE YET UNTIL YOU KNOW FOR SURE THE FOOTPRINTS OF THE OTHER FACILITY.
>> ALL THAT MAKES SENSE. JUST IN READING IT BEFOREHAND WHEN IT SAID TEMPORARY FOR 5-8 YEARS, THAT IS NOT WHAT I THINK OF AS TEMPORARY SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION.
>> CAN WE DO SOMETHING WHERE IT'S PERHAPS A SHORTER TIME AND WE COME BACK AND REVISIT IT FOR A POTENTIAL RENEWAL.
IF WE GET, SAY, THREE, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE LINE AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY ON WHAT THE BROADER MASTER PLAN LOOKS LIKE?
>> I THINK WE'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT THE BROADER MASTER PLAN WITH THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
I THINK THE MINIMUM WE'D LIKE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT ON THE LOT IS FIVE YEARS.
>> THEN WITH CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW FACILITIES, THAT CONSTRUCTION TIME TO THE NEW GARAGE OPENS.
>> MAYBE WE TIE THOSE TOGETHER AT THAT POINT WHEN WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO WORK WITH AT THAT POINT.
>> MR. PATCHY OWNER, YOU ALL HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN A GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN AND YOU'VE BEEN VERY GOOD FOR THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE.
I'M EAGER TO GET ALL OF YOUR CARS PARKED BACK IN OUR CITY WHERE THEY BELONG AND YOUR VISITORS AS WELL.
I THINK THE LOT WOULD BE A GOOD DEAL.
I LIKE THE FIVE-YEAR TERM AND IF YOU WOULD PUT A NOTATION IN YOUR FILE TO COME BACK AND GIVE US AN UPDATE IN THREE YEARS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO DO AND I THINK IT WOULD BE WELL RECEIVED JUST TO UPDATE US.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?
>> WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> PERMISSION TO CLOSE MOTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.
>> [INAUDIBLE] ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
CARRYING IS NOW OPEN ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU23-19, ERICA MAROHNIC.
>> THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH CU18-12 TO CONSTRUCT A NEW CONCRETE ACCESS DRIVEWAY OFF OF RUTH WALL ROAD TO THE GAYLORD TEXAN RESORT PROPERTY FOR USE BY GAYLORD OWNED VEHICLES IN THE CITY OF GRAPEVINES EMERGENCY SERVICES VEHICLES.
ON YOUR SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE GENERAL LOCATION CIRCLED IN RED OF THE PROPOSED ACCESS DRIVE.
IT IS THE APPLICANTS INTENT TO REMOVE APPROXIMATELY 30 OR LINEAR FEET OF AN EXISTING SIX-FOOT CONCRETE BLOCK SCREENING WALL ADJACENT TO RUTH WALL ROAD AND GAYLORD'S LOADING DOCK AREA IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A 20-FOOT WIDE CONCRETE ACCESS DRIVEWAY ONTO THE EXISTING GAYLORD DRIVEWAY.
THIS NEW ACCESS DRIVEWAY IS FOR USE BY GAYLORD OWNED VEHICLES, SUCH AS SHUTTLES OR TRAMS, AND FOR THE CITY'S EMERGENCY SERVICE VEHICLES IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY AT THE RESORT AND SOME OF THEIR PROPERTIES.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A SIX-FOOT METAL DUAL SWING GAIT THAT WILL SWING TO THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY AND WILL BE USED TO CLOSE OFF THIS ACCESS AT NON-PEAK TIMES.
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DURING THE YEAR, THE NEW ACCESS WILL MAINTAIN A 10 FOOT BY 10 FOOT VISIBILITY TRIANGLE ALONG THE DRIVE APPROACH TO PREVENT ANY OBSTRUCTIONS.ANY LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE REMOVED DURING CONSTRUCTION ALONG RUTH WALL ROAD WILL BE REPLACED UPON COMPLETION OF THE NEW ACCESS DRIVEWAY.
THIS COMPLETE STAFF'S PRESENTATION, MR. BEAMS AND MR. PACIONI ARE ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT EITHER THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL MAY HAVE
>> HELLO AGAIN. DURING ICE, OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE ON THE HOTEL IS GETTING PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE RESORT.
BECAUSE SO MANY CARS ARE COMING IN.
WE HAVE TWO WAYS OF ACCESSING THE RESORT.
ONE IS THE FRONT AND ONE IS THE RUTH WALL AREA THAT COMES FROM THE BACKSIDE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
IN ADDITION TO HAVING THIS PARKING AREA, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO RELIEVE THE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING INTO THE RESORT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, SO IT DOESN'T BACKUP.
WHEN WE PICK OUR GUESTS UP BOTH IF WE HIT GET THIS ADDITIONAL LOT PLUS OTHER A LOT WHICH WE CALL LOT R, INSTEAD OF THESE CARS GETTING IN LINE TO TRY TO FIND PARKING SPACES AT THE RESORT WHICH AREN'T AVAILABLE.
THOSE CARS WILL PARK IN THESE TWO OFFSITE LOTS.
INSTEAD OF US GETTING INTO OUR TRAMS AND TROLLEYS IN GETTING IN LINE WITH ALL THESE OTHER CARS,
[5. Conditional Use Permit CU23-18 (Gaylord Texan Temporary Parking Lot) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Gaylord Texan requesting a conditional use permit to amend the previously approved site plan CU18-12 (Ordinance No. 2018-42) to expand the planned commercial center by five acres to construct a 700-space lighted temporary, gravel parking lot. The subject property is located at 816 Ruth Wall Road and is currently zoned “PCD”, Planned Commerce Development District.]
WE WOULD GO ALONG THE BACK SIDE OF DOVE AND ENTER THE BACKSIDE OF OUR CONVENTION CENTER INTO THIS GATE.WE WOULD BE THE ONLY VEHICLES DOING SO, GUESTS WOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
ONLY CITY OF GRAPEVINE VEHICLES WOULD.
THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A PAIN POINT IN A TRAFFIC POINT OFF OF OUR RESORT.
THAT HAS BEEN A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR US FOR YEARS, WHERE WE HAVE CARS BACKING UP SOMETIMES ALL THE WAY OUT TO HEIGHTS OF ONE TO THE 24.
IT'S ALSO GOING TO TAKE A MAJOR PAIN POINT FOR PEOPLE WHO DO CHRISTMAS PARTIES AT OUR HOTEL.
[LAUGHTER] I DO LIVE IN GRAPEVINE.
>> BUT WE LITERALLY HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GET TO THEIR CHRISTMAS PARTY BECAUSE THEY'RE IN LINE BUYING ALL THESE CARS TO GET INTO THE RESORT.
AGAIN, THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE INSTRUCTED TO PARK INTO ONE OF THESE SATELLITE LOTS, GET INTO AN I-BAR TROLLEYS WHICH WILL GO ALONG THE BACKSIDE AND DROP THEM OFF.
IT'S GOING TO DECREASE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA SIGNIFICANTLY.
IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT A LOT EASIER AND MORE POSITIVE FOR OUR GUESTS TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE RESORT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE PEOPLE MAKE THEIR CHRISTMAS PARTY TIMEFRAMES THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IN THE PAST.
THIS SIMPLE PROCESS REALLY CREATES A HUGE POSITIVE EXPERIENCE FOR OUR GUESTS FOR OUR STARS GETTING TO WORK ON TIME AND FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY NOT HAVING TO SEE THESE LONG LINES GETTING INTO THE RESORT SO WE'RE HOPING FOR APPROVAL ON THIS GATE.
>> QUESTION JUST POPPED INTO MY MIND HERE.
ASSUMING THAT YOU GET APPROVAL FOR YOUR PREVIOUS PARKING, WILL THAT BE FREE PARKING?
IT WILL BE REDUCED PARKING VERSUS BIG PARKING CLOSER TO ON RESORT PROPERTY, BUT IT WILL NOT BE FREE.
>> THIS PHOTO, THIS IS NOT WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO DROP CUSTOMERS OFF?
>> THE PICTURE THEY WANTED TO SEE THE TYPE OF GATE WOULD BE A METAL.
>> TO SHOW THE GATE. [OVERLAPPING]
[NOISE] IT'S JUST A PICTORIAL OF AN EXAMPLE OF A GATE.
>> ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, WE HAVE IN ALLEYWAYS, WE CALL IT WHERE WHEN WE DO DROP PEOPLE OFF, THEY GET DROPPED OFF AND THEY WALK THROUGH THIS PART OF OUR CONVENTION CENTER AND NOW THEY'RE INTO THE ICE AREA.
THEY'LL BE DROPPED OFF IN THE SAME SPOT THEY ARE NOW.
THEY JUST WON'T HAVE TO WAIT BEHIND CARS TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE RESORT.
>> CHEG WITH THE NEW PARKING LOT, SO IF I'M COMING DOWN GAYLORD TRAIL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SIGNAGE TO LET ME KNOW THAT THE PARKING IS FULL AND I'M GOING TO A HANG A LEFT ON RUTH WALL TO GO TO THE REMOTE? YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP IT FROM EVERYTHING GETTING JAMMED UP BY THE HOTEL?
>> I KNOW THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW ACCESS.
I LIKE THE NEW ACCESS, BUT WOULD THE GOAL BE TO KEEP THEM FROM GETTING JAMMED BY THE HOTEL.
>> THE GOAL IS TO KEEP THEM FROM COMING ALL THE WAY TO THE HOTEL.
THE GOAL IS TO PRE-SELL PARKING IN A CERTAIN LOT.
YOU WOULD BUY A TICKET TO ICE AND THAT YOU WOULD BUY YOUR PARKING, YOU WOULD BE ASSIGNED A LOT.
WE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM DRIVING ALL THE WAY IN AND CAUSING
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THE BACKUP AND GOING STRAIGHT TO THEIR LOT THEN BEING PICKED UP AND BRING TO THE RESORT.>> ANYTHING ELSE? APPARENTLY NOT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> MOTION IS BROUGHT INTO CLOSE, MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.
>> ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
HEARING IS OPEN ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU23-20. ERICA MAROHNIC.
>> THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH CU20-25 FOR A PLANNED COMMERCIAL CENTER WITH THE POSSESSION, STORAGE, RETAIL SALE, AND ON-AND-OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
THIS REQUEST IS SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF TWO OUTDOOR PERGOLAS, ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SEATING, OUTDOOR SPEAKERS, AND AN EIGHT-FOOT TALL SCREENING FENCE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESTAURANT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS AN EXISTING RESTAURANT.
IT'S ACTUALLY FERRARI'S, ITALIAN VILLA, AND CHOP HOUSE, AND THIS IS KNOWN AS THE THREE BARRELS BEER GARDEN.
IT'S LOCATED AT 1200 WILLIAM D. TATE AVENUE IN PRESENTLY ZONE CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
WITH THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO ADD IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING OUTDOOR DINING AREA LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH ELEVATION OF THE RESTAURANT.
IT INCLUDES A 262 SQUARE FOOT PERGOLA AND A 477 SQUARE FOOT PERGOLA, EACH OF WHICH IS 10 FEET IN HEIGHT.
SIX NEW SPEAKERS TO EACH OF THESE PERGOLAS.
THERE IS ONE EXISTING SPEAKER ALONG THAT SOUTH ELEVATION FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN IF APPROVED.
THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING 54 NEW SEATS, OUTDOOR, AND AN EIGHT FOOT WOODEN SCREENING FENCE ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
TOTAL SEATING PROPOSED IS 370 SEATS, 250 OF WHICH ARE WITHIN THE EXISTING RESTAURANT INSIDE, AND 120 SEATS OUTDOORS.
TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING FOR THE ENTIRE RESTAURANT DEVELOPMENT IS 124 PARKING SPACES AND 138 PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED.
NO OTHER PROPOSED CHANGES ARE OCCURRING ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE EXISTING LOT BEYOND SOME ELEVATION CHANGES THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN WHERE YOU SEE THAT SCREEN FENCE ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
THE APPLICANT, MISS JANE SECHI, IS HERE THIS EVENING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL MAY HAVE TO HER PROPOSAL.
WHAT ARE THE SPEAKERS GOING TO BE USED FOR?
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT? YOU NEED TO COME UP.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.
I THINK WE KNOW MOST OF YOU AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR AND ALL THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
>> YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THIS MICROPHONE IF YOU WANT ANYBODY TO HEAR YOU.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YOU CAN HEAR THE ENGLISH ACCENT NOW? YOU CAN.
GOOD. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN ALL OF YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE.
MY HUSBAND, FRANCESCO, AND I'M JANE.
WE'VE BEEN AT FERRARI'S RESTAURANT FOR 16 YEARS NOW AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GONE.
FINALLY, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO OPEN OUR NEW BEER GARDEN, WHICH WE'RE CELEBRATING OUR 40TH YEAR IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS ON OCTOBER THE 26 IN DALLAS.
THAT IS QUITE AN ACHIEVEMENT FOR US AND WE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN A BEER GARDEN ON THAT DAY.
WE'VE GOT TO GET SOME CONSTRUCTION THINGS MOVING AND THAT'S WHY TODAY IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TOO.
WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT HERE THAT'S GOING TO BE CHANGING.
WE'RE PUTTING THE PERGOLAS IN THE BACK BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, IN THIS SUMMER, WE'VE HAD EXTREME HEAT AND THAT BACK GARDEN IS RATHER OPEN RIGHT TO THE END OF THE PARKING LOT.
WE HAVE THE TWO PERGOLAS WITH SHADE FOR OUR PARTICIPANTS AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A FAMILY AREA.
IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO EAT AT FERRARI'S AND HAVE A WONDERFUL WHITE TABLECLOTH EXPERIENCE.
BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WE WANT TO TRY YOUR FOOD IN A CASUAL AREA, SO THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.
WE'LL BE DOING STREET FOOD AND PEOPLE COULD COME IN WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
IT WILL BE DOG FRIENDLY OUT THERE, SO REMEMBER ALL THE DOGS, VERY WELCOME.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GAMES OUT THERE TOO.
WE'LL PROBABLY BE DOING SOME SPECIALTY EVENING STUFF WITH TRIVIA AND BINGO AND OTHER STUFF LIKE THAT WHEN THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON OTHERWISE.
REALLY IT'S JUST A MATTER OF AN EXTENSION OF WHO WE ARE, BUT IN A CASUAL ATMOSPHERE, AND PEOPLE COULD COME WITH THEIR BALL CAPS AND
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THEIR FLIP-FLOPS AND HAVE A GOOD TIME INSTEAD OF BEING DRESSED UP.WE'VE HAD THAT REQUEST FOR A LONG TIME.
WE WILL BE FEATURING OUR SON'S BEER, GAVIN FROM 3 NATIONS BREWERY.
THAT'S GOING TO BE QUITE A EXCITING THING FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE KEEPING THE FAMILY TOGETHER.
WHEN WE DO OPEN THE RESTAURANT, WE'RE BRINGING OUR MICHELIN STAR CHEF STEFANO, WHO IS OUR FIRSTBORN.
HE'S COMING IN FROM NEW YORK AND WILL BE DOING A COOKING DEMONSTRATION THAT NIGHT TOO WITH TWO MICHELIN STAR CHEFS AND PROBABLY SOME BRAZILIAN BARBECUE OR SOMETHING AND SOME MUSIC OUTSIDE FOR EVERYBODY TO ENJOY THAT.
BUT WE'VE GOT A QUICK TURNAROUND.
OCTOBER THE 26 IS COMING UP VERY FAST.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH ELSE TO SAY EXCEPT MY HUSBAND IS ITALIAN.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE SO THAT WE CAN TRANSLATE FOR HIM TOO.
>> WELL, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I HAVE BEEN MARRIED 48 YEARS SO FAR, SO GOOD. HERE WE ARE, OF COURSE.
I THINK WE ARE VERY PROUD TO DO LIKE JANE SAID.
WE GOT SUCH A GREAT RESPONSE FOR THE CUSTOMERS ALL THE TIME.
IT WAS VERY UNIQUE IN THE BACK FOR EXAMPLE.
WE'VE GOT SUCH A BEAUTIFUL GARDEN FOR EXAMPLE.
WE ARE TRYING TO TRIM IT TO MAKE IT NICE, VERY COMFORTABLE SO EVERYBODY IS VERY EXCITED TO COME TO HAVE GREAT PARTIES WITH THEIR FAMILIES, IT FEELS LIKE THIS IS WHAT IS ALL ABOUT.
WE ARE VERY PROUD. THEY COULD BE 40 YEARS NOW TO CELEBRATE ESPECIALLY HERE IN GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.
THEY SAID FRANCESCO, HOW DID YOU CHOOSE FERRARI SEEN ALL GRAPEVINE TEXAS? I SAID REMINDS ME VERY MUCH SARDINIA WHERE I WAS BORN AND RAISED AND HERE WE ARE.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY HERE?
>> YOU PARK UP TO PEACE BURGER AND THOSE SHOPS THAT ARE THERE?
>> IN BAJA. BEHIND YOU? THANK YOU.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA TO ME, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THERE WITH ALL THE NOISE, AND THE PEOPLE, AND THE MUSIC, AND ET CETERA.
>> WELL, THERE AREN'T MANY PEOPLE LIVING THERE ANYWAY AND THE NOISE [OVERLAPPING]
>> YES, THERE ARE, MA'AM. RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU'RE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM A RESIDENTIAL SUB-DIVISION.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY ON TAPE RIGHT?
THE SOUND THERE IS I CAN'T HEAR ROSE'S SOUND [OVERLAPPING].
WELL, WE HAVE A LOT OF SOUND FROM THE CARS FROM WILLIAM TO TAKE YES.
>> I'M JUST TELLING YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE A NIGHTMARE FOR THOSE PEOPLE.
TOO MANY PEOPLE TOO OPEN, TOO MUCH MUSIC, TOO MANY SPEAKERS, TOO MUCH NOISE. WRONG PLACE, NOT FOR ME.
>> WELL, I BELIEVE IN OUR LATITUDE HAS BEEN ALWAYS THE FAMILY AND THAT WAY PEOPLE COME TO KNOW, WE MAKE SURE BOTH OF US ARE MOSTLY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THOSE OVER THERE.
MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT A GREAT CONTROLLING [INAUDIBLE] AND REACT TO A CONTROLLER OVER THERE IN THE BACKUP FOR THAT, EVERYBODY'S VERY EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO ORGANIZE, TO DO SOMETHING VERY NICE.
THEY ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE. THEY COME FROM GAYLORD.
THEY KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN COMING FOR 16 YEARS AND NOW ON THE CONVENTION AND THEN WHATEVER THEY FINISHED HERE, HAVE A NICE DINNER AT, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY ARE LIKE, HEY, LET'S GO THROUGH SOME FRESH AIR FOR EXAMPLE.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE CREATING TO EITHER TO WELCOME SUCH A GREAT SPOT, TO HAVE A GREAT MEAL IN [INAUDIBLE] AND MAYBE HAVE A NICE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE TOO IN THE GARDEN OF COURSE.
>> YOU DON'T SHOW IT ON THIS PARTICULAR DRAWING.
BUT I SEE WHERE YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR NEW PARABOLA AND WHERE YOU HAVE EXISTING.
WHERE DO YOU PROPOSE TO HAVE YOUR SPEAKERS? HOW MANY AND WHAT HAVE YOU MADE PLANS FOR THAT?
>> ACTUALLY THERE HAS BEEN SPEAKERS PUT INTO THIS PARTICULAR PLAN THAT I DIDN'T ASK FOR BECAUSE WE HAD TO TURN THIS AROUND RATHER QUICKLY TO GET IT HERE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S THAT IS NEEDED TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
WE PROBABLY ONLY NEED TWO, MAYBE THREE AT THE MOST, BECAUSE THAT AREA IS RATHER A LARGE AREA, AND THE SIDE WHERE THE NEW PARABOLA IS GOING TO BE, IT DOES NEED TO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS GOING TOWARDS WILLIAM DICTATE.
YOU COULD HAVE THAT ENERGY GOING UP THAT END.
BUT THERE'S TOO MANY SPEAKERS THAT MY PERSONAL OPINION, BUT THAT WAS PUT IN HERE JUST IN CASE.
>> LET'S GET REAL THAN WITH BECAUSE THE SPEAKER IS OBVIOUSLY HERE AN ISSUE.
YOU HAVE ONE EXISTING PARABOLA. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> WE HAVE TWO AT THE BACK AND ONE IN THE FRONT. THAT'S MORE THOUGH.
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE BACK,
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I THINK IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.>> YES, WE HAVE TWO IN THE BACK.
>> IT SAYS YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL PARABOLA.
DO YOU HAVE ONE EXISTING PARABOLA IN THE BACK?
>> YOU HAVE TWO EXISTING IN THE BACK?
>> YOU'RE ASKING FOR A NEW ONE AND WHERE WOULD IT BE? [OVERLAPPING].
YOU DON'T HAVE THREE PARABOLAS IN THE BACK.
>> THERE WILL BE FOUR IN THE BACK.
>> FOUR IN THE BACK. YOU'VE GOT TWO IN THE BACK NOW, YOU'RE ASKING FOR ONE MORE AND WHERE DID THE FOURTH ONE COME FROM?
>> WELL, IT'S ON THE SITE PLAN HERE.
THERE ARE TWO THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN THERE THAT AGAIN, WITH THE TWO THAT'S THEIR EXISTING, SO THERE WILL BE FOUR IN TOTAL.
>> WHICH SPEAKERS DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE BACK?
>> HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE BACK?
>> JUST ONE FOR TWO EXISTING PARABOLAS BACK THERE?
>> OKAY. IF YOU'RE ADDING TWO MORE PARABOLAS, AND THEY HAD ONE SPEAKER TO EQUATE THEM, THEN THAT WOULD GIVE YOU TWO SPEAKERS IN THE BACK, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH THAT?
>> I WOULD PREFER THREE IF WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IT'S A LARGER AREA.
>> I UNDERSTAND. COULD YOU LIVE WITH TWO THOUGH?
>> MAYOR, CAN YOU LIVE WITH TWO OR THREE SPEAKERS BACK THERE?
>> NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> BUT I CAN'T KEEP THE NOISE ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THERE'S A SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH, A SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST.
THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO BE DISTURBED AT NIGHT WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO REST.
WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FOR YEARS.
THIS IS A MAJOR, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PRETTY LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND SO MANY SPEAKERS, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN CONTROL IT.
WE'VE HAD THAT BEFORE AND IT BECOMES A NIGHTMARE.
ONCE YOU APPROVE IT, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
>> THE DISTANCE FROM THESE PROPOSED PARABOLAS AND SPEAKERS TO THE RESIDENTIAL, TO THE EAST BECAUSE YOU'D BE GOING ACROSS WILLIAM DICTATE.
YOU'VE GOT THE FIRESTONE AND THAT CHICK-FIL-A, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT BALLS TREATS.
WHAT'S THAT DISTANCE FROM THIS TWO?
I WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE HAVE A MAP THAT SHOWS THAT.
>> I'M SORRY, OUR MAP DOESN'T EVEN SHOW THE NEARBY RESIDENTIAL.
>> THIS IS THE PUBLIC SIDE BUILDING.
>> I DON'T SEE THE RESIDENTIALS TO THE NORTH.
>> IT COULD BE TO THE EAST PART OF THE MAP.
>> THAT MAP DOESN'T SHOW THE RESIDENTIAL DOESN'T SHOW BELLARMINE DOESN'T SHOW.
>> WELL, NO. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GO OUT FAR ENOUGH.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT MAP DOESN'T SHOW IT.
>> BUT IT'S PROBABLY A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET ANYWAY.
>> LET'S JUST GO THROUGH THE PROCESS IN THE MORNING AND SEE WHAT WE DECIDE.
>> MAY I ASK WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS IS GOING TO BE?
>> YES. WE'RE NOT A LATE NIGHT RESTAURANT OF ANY KIND.
>> WE ARE NOT A LATE NIGHT FACILITY OF ANY KIND.
WERE FAMILY ORIENTATED, SO OUR REGULAR RESTAURANT CLOSES AT 09:30 IS OUR LAST ORDER, 10:00, POSSIBLY LAST PEOPLE LEAVING.
WITH THE CASUAL RESTAURANT, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY 10:30, POSSIBLY 11:00 AT THE WEEKENDS, BUT NOTHING LATER THAN THAT.
>> THIS ISN'T MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU BROUGHT BACK IN 2020.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR. THAT WAS APPROVED?
>> YOU DIDN'T GO FORWARD WITH-
>> NO, WE HAD SOME FINANCIAL SITUATIONS THAT OCCURRED AND WE HAD TO PULL OUT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN YOU'VE APPROVED BEFORE.
>> WELL, WE ARE. WE'VE BEEN 16 YEARS IN THE RUNNING, SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THIS DONE.
>> DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?
>> MR. MAYOR, IF THE COUNCIL AND COMMISSION WOULD
[6. Conditional Use Permit CU23-19 (Gaylord Texan New Access Driveway) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Gaylord Texan requesting a conditional use permit to amend the previously approved site plan CU18-12 (Ordinance No. 2018-42) to construct a new concrete access driveway off of Ruth Wall Road to the Gaylord Texan property for use by Gaylord owned vehicles and City of Grapevine emergency service vehicles. The subject property is located at 1501 Gaylord Trail and is currently zoned “PCD”, Planned Commerce Development District. ]
REFER TO THEIR LOCATOR MAP AND THEIR BACKUP MATERIALS BASED ON THE SCALE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE NEARBY RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST WOULD BE AT LEAST 400 LINEAR FEET AWAY FROM THE EXISTING PROPERTY LINE OF THE RESTAURANT ALONG WILLIAM DICTATE. THANK YOU.>> OKAY. MOST SPEAKERS WOULDN'T CARRY.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, DID YOU ALL CLOSE?
>> THE COMMISSION CLOSE MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.
WE'RE CURRENTLY ALL CLOSE THE PLANS THEY WILL NOW MOVE TO THE RIGHT WAITING ROOM.
YOU'RE INVITED TO ATTEND THAT OR YOU CAN STAY WITH A COUNSEL [NOISE] OUR AGENDA.
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>> THAT'S WHAT I WASN'T CHANGED BUT RIGHT NOW I UNDERSTAND.
>> THANK YOU. [NOISE] LET'S MOVE ON [BACKGROUND]
>> ALL RIGHT. HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS REQUEST TONIGHT?
>> FINE, THE FIRST ITEM UP IS CITIZEN COMMENTS.
ANY PERSON WHO'S NOT SCHEDULE ON THE AGENDA MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS ON ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEM BY COMPLETING A CITIZEN APPARENT REQUESTS FORM OF THE CITY SECRETARY UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT WE'RE LIMITED, WE CAN'T PREVENT IT FROM TAKING ANY ACTION DURING THIS SEGMENT OF OUR AGENDA.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE YELLOW FORM THAT YOU SIGNED, AND SO WOULD YOU INTRODUCE THE FIRST SPEAKER?
>> YES, SIR. HANS DREYER, 3, 2, 5 RIDGE ROAD.
>> HI, GOOD EVENING. THE THING I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS JUST SOME HOUSEKEEPING THING THAT I'VE BROUGHT UP IN THE 14 YEARS THAT I WORKED FOR THE CITY.
I BROUGHT IT UP ABOUT HALF A DOZEN TIMES TO A HALF A DOZEN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
I GET UP AND WALK AT 4:30 IN THE MORNING.
I WALK PAST NASH FARMS AND THE SCARECROW THAT SOMEBODY BUILT AND PUT THERE WHICH IS NICE AND APPROPRIATE THERE HAS AN AMERICAN FLAG ON A PIECE OF PVC PIPE.
WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE PUT A LIGHT ON IT OR BRING THAT FLAG DOWN? IT'S THE DISRESPECT, AND AS A DISABLED VET, ME AND A BUNCH OF THE GUYS THAT GO WALKING IN THE EARLY MORNING, IT'S HARD ON US NOT TO JUST SAY SOMETHING AND I'VE MENTIONED IT SO MANY TIMES.
THAT BRINGS UP THE OTHER POINT.
HAVING HAD MENTIONED THAT MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS THAT I WORKED AT, I WISH THAT YOU FOLKS WOULD CHANGE THE CITY POLICY FROM BEING REACTIVE TO PROACTIVE.
THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE HERE IN GRAPEVINE THAT ARE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY ARE STIFLED AND ARE TOLD, DO NOT MAKE ANY COMMENTS, COMPLAINTS, OR ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE IN THE CITY BECAUSE YOU ARE A CITY EMPLOYEE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE SAID FOR MANY YEARS, AND I WAS TOLD SHUT UP AND LEAVE IT ALONE.
YOU WORK FOR THE CITY, YOU DON'T HAVE A VIEWPOINT.
THAT'S THE MAIN THING THAT I WANTED TO TELL YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? > NO.
>> THEN NEXT IS NUMBER 9, MASS GATHERING PERMITS.
CITY COUNCIL TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC KAREN RELATIVE TO AN APPLICATION.
REGRESSION ON MATH, GATHERING PERMITS, ALLOW OUTDOOR BOUNCE PARK AT GRAPEVINE MILLS PARKING LOT.
PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. ERICA MAROHNIC.
>> YES SIR. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN EVENT FROM SEPTEMBER 13TH OF THIS YEAR UNTIL NOVEMBER 20TH OF 2023 FOR A MASS GATHERING PERMIT, WHICH IS FOUND IN ARTICLE 2, SECTION 15, SUBSECTIONS 33, 37 OF GRAPEVINES CODE OF ORDINANCES, WHICH ALLOWS COUNCIL TO CONSIDER MASS GATHERINGS.
THIS IS FOR AN OUTDOOR BOUNCE PARK WHOSE HOURS OF OPERATION WOULD BE ON FRIDAYS FROM 03:00 P.M. TO 07:30 P.M. AND SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS FROM 10:00 A.M. TO 07:30 P.M.
WHEN THE BOUNCE PARK IS NOT IN USE, IT WOULD BE LEFT DEFLATED, COVERED, AND SECURED WITH AN OFFENSE TEAM AREA, AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS AT THE SOUTHERN END OF THE GRAPEVINE MILLS PROPERTY.
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IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO THE CORNER OF WEST GRAPEVINE MIDDLE CIRCLE IN EAST GRAPEVINE MILLS CIRCLE.THE OPERATION WOULD CONSIST OF APPROXIMATELY 25,000 SQUARE FEET OF MULTIPLE CONNECTED INFLATABLE DEVICES IN A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT TURFED AREA FOR WALKING, SITTING IN CANOPIES OVER SHADED AREAS.
THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING 10 OUTDOOR SPEAKERS AND A DJ AREA INSIDE OF THE BOUNCE PARK.
THERE WILL BE AN EIGHT-FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE DURING THE EVENT TIME SURROUNDING THE STRUCTURE, TOTAL FENCED AREA WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 40,000 SQUARE FEET.
TO OPERATE ALL OF THIS ONSITE, THERE WILL BE A WHISPER GENERATOR TO BE USED FOR POWER FOR THE BOUNCE PARK, THIS WILL BE A DIESEL-POWERED GENERATOR, APPROXIMATELY 296 CUBIC FEET, WITH A MAXIMUM NOISE LEVEL OF 70 DACEBLES FROM 23 FEET, IT CAN BE HEARD.
PARKING FOR THIS PROPOSED TEMPORARY USE WILL BE ON PAVED PARKING LOT LOCATED AT THE SHOPPING CENTER IMMEDIATELY TO
[7. Conditional Use Permit CU23-20 (Three Barrels Beer Garden (Ferrari’s Italian Villa and Chop House)) - City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Jane Secchi requesting a conditional use permit to amend the previously approved site plan CU20-25 (Ordinance No. 2021-04) for a planned commercial center to allow for the possession storage, retail sales, and on and off premise consumption of alcoholic beverages (beer, wine and mixed beverages) specifically to allow the addition of two outdoor pergolas with additional outdoor seating, outdoor speakers and an 8- foot-tall screening fence. The subject property is located at 1200 William D. Tate Avenue and is currently zoned “CC”, Community Commercial District. ]
THE EAST OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.WATER AND SNOW CONES WILL ALSO BE SOLD, BUT NO FOOD OR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES WILL BE ALLOWED ON THE PREMISES AS PART OF THIS MASS GATHERING PERMIT.
THE GRAPEVINE MILLS MALL CURRENTLY HAS 9,117 PARKING SPACES THROUGHOUT MULTIPLE LOTS AND 10,224 PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED.
THE APPLICANT, MR. GEORGE PEDRO, STAYS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY HAVE FOR THIS MASS GATHERING PERMIT FOR LATER THIS YEAR.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR [INAUDIBLE] COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS GEORGE, TARDOS IS MY SON TAGGART CENTER.
MY SON JAGGER TARDOS JUST STARTED HIS SIXTH GRADE TODAY, AND MY OTHER SON STARTED FRESHMAN YEAR IN HIGH SCHOOL THIS MORNING.
I'VE BEEN AN ENTREPRENEUR IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
I ACTUALLY OWNED AND OPERATED 152 T-MOBILE STORES ACROSS THE COUNTRY 2009-2019, HEADQUARTERED HERE IN GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.
WE HAD THE BUILDING AT 1046 TEXTS AND TRAIL THE COMPANY WAS CALLED AM TILL.
I HAD 1,000 EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
LAST FOUR YEARS, JUST BEEN PLAYING AND HANGING OUT WITH MY BOYS AND THEY BOTH PLAY BASKETBALL AT THE GRAPEVINE FIELD HOUSE.
I FOUND THIS FRANCHISE FROM THE WEST COAST HERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
I'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM TO BRING THIS TO TEXAS.
I HAVE THE TERRITORY RIGHTS AND TO DALLAS FORT WORTH AND NORTH TEXAS.
WE'RE TRYING TO OPEN THE FIRST PARK HERE AT GRAPEVINE MILLS MALL.
AGAIN, IT'S A 25,000-SQUARE-FOOT CONNECTED BOUNCE PARK.
IT'S THE WORLD'S BIGGEST BOUNCE PARK.
SEE HERE, I'LLSHOW YOU GUYS SOME PICTURES.
THEY ACTUALLY OPENED THEIR 21ST LOCATION LAST WEEK.
THEY HAVE ABOUT 20 MORE OPENINGS SEPTEMBER 1ST ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND THEY'LL HAVE ABOUT 155 TERRITORIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY HERE IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.
THERE YOU GO. WE RUN 90 MINUTES SESSIONS AS WAS DISCUSSED.
FRIDAY AT 03:00 OCLOCK, EACH SESSION HAS RUN FOR 90 MINUTES AT A TIME AND THEN IT'S A 400-PERSON MAX AND THE ENTIRE BOUNCE PARK SITTING AND ON THE TURF AND INSIDE THE PARK.
THE LAST SESSION ENDS AT 06:00 O'CLOCK ON FRIDAY, AND THE LAST SESSION ENDS AT 06:00 OCLOCK ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY SO ENDS AT 07:30.
AGAIN, EVERY NIGHT THE BOUNCE PARK IS DEFLATED.
IT TAKES ABOUT 10 MINUTES TO INFLATE AND ABOUT 10 MINUTES TO DEFLATE THE BOUNCE PARK IN TOTAL.
THEN WE TARP IT SUNDAY EVENING AND THEN WE COME BACK FRIDAY.
THEY'VE SERVED OVER 700,000 AS OF TWO MONTHS AGO, THEY JUST HIT THE MILLION MARK ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
MILLION GUESTS IN 2023, 2,500 REVIEWS, 4.5 STARS, AND GOOGLE AND YELP, AND APPLE.
THEY SEE A LOT OF CELEBRITY, A LOT OF NEWS COVERAGE ON IT.
THE FIRST WEEKEND, THE GRAND OPENING WEEKEND IS DONE WITH A FOSTER HOME BECAUSE ONE OF THE FOUNDERS IS A FOSTER CHILD.
THE FIRST WEEKEND THERE'S A LARGE DONATION AND A LOT OF ATTENTION AND NEWS AROUND FOSTER CARE KIDS.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
>> WHY ARE YOU STARTING AT THIS LATE IN THE YEAR AND ONLY FOR TWO MONTHS? DO YOU HAVE A BETTER TIME OR A LONGER TIME IF YOU DID A DIFFERENT TIME IN THE YEAR?
>> YES, MA'AM. IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET THE PARKS, BUT IT'S WEATHER.
YOU CAN'T REALLY OPERATE IT IF IT'S RAINING.
IF IT'S WET THAT DAY, YOU'D HAVE TO DRIVE THE PARK OUT.
IT TAKES ABOUT 90 MINUTES TO TWO HOURS TO DRIVE THE PARK OUT OF THE RAIN STOPS.
IF IT DOESN'T, YOU'D HAVE TO SHUT DOWN FOR A RAINY DAY.
THEN DURING THE SUMMER IT'S JUST TOO HOT.
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JUNE, JULY, AND AUGUST, YOU JUST COULDN'T OPERATE THE PARK IF IT'S OVER THAT 100 DEGREE MARK, YOU REALLY TRY TO OPEN THE PARK SEPTEMBER 1ST AND YOU WILL REALLY WANT TO TRY TO RUN IT THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST.GRAPEVINE MILLS HAS RESTRICTIONS FROM TENANTS FROM BLACK FRIDAY THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR BECAUSE OF PARKING, BUT THEY DO RUN THEM THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR, WEATHER PERMITTING OBVIOUSLY.
THEN YOU LOAD THE PARK AND A 53 FOOT TRAILER LOADS FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, AND THEN YOU TRY TO REOPEN MARCH 1ST THROUGH THE END OF MAY FOR THAT 90 DAY PERIOD AGAIN.
>> YOU'RE RESTRICTED IN THE TIME BECAUSE OF THE MALL RESTRICTIONS?
>> NOT NECESSARILY, NO WHETHER RESTRICTIONS.
YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO OPEN IT IN THE COLDS OR THE WINTER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY WHEN IT STARTS TO GET COLD, YOU DON'T WANT TO OPERATE IT AND THEN YOU DON'T WANT TO BE OPERATING IN THE JUNE, JULY, AND AUGUST TIME-FRAME BECAUSE OF THE HEAT.
>> SEPTEMBER TO NOVEMBER TO MATCH YOUR TIME.
>> DO YOU INTEND TO COME BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR OR?
AGAIN, BOTH OF MY BOYS PLAY GRAPEVINE FIELD HOUSE BASKETBALL.
BOTH OF THEM GO TO PRIVATE CATHOLIC SCHOOL IN NORTH CAROLINA.
I LIVE IN SOUTH LAKE AND I STILL TAKE THEM ALL THE WAY TO LOS CLEANNESS EVERY MONDAY.
I WILL HAVE FIVE PARKS OPERATING IN THE MARCH TIME FRAME.
BRING 40 JOBS TO GRAPEVINE AND 40 PER PARK ADDITIONALLY, AT EVERY PART THAT I OPENED.
>> THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE APPROVAL PROCESS, BUT WHAT ARE YOUR PRICE POINTS TO ONLY OPERATE FOR TWO MONTHS [LAUGHTER]
>> THE PRICE POINTS IT'S ABOUT $24 A TICKET TO GET INTO THE PARK FOR THE 90 MINUTES, GRAND OPENING WEEKEND IS $12 TICKET FOR THE GRAND OPENING WEEKEND, AND THAT'S 90 MINUTES SESSIONS. YES, SIR.
>> WHERE ARE YOUR OTHER PARKS LOCATED THAT YOU OPERATE?
>> THE OTHER LEASE THAT I HAVE CURRENTLY EXECUTED WILL BE AT THE SHOPS THAT WILL APPEND IN PLANO AND THAT'LL OPEN FROM NOVEMBER 1ST TO DECEMBER 31ST.
IN MARCH THERE'LL BE ONE IN FORT WORTH, ONE IN DALLAS AREA, SOMEWHERE IN THE ARLINGTON GRAND PRAIRIE.
ONE POTENTIALLY AT FRISCO STONE BRIAR MOL.
THERE'LL BE SEPARATED THROUGHOUT THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH AREA.
> GEORGE. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. JOSEPH [INAUDIBLE] BY MILLS.
FROM THE WALL STANDPOINT, THE REASON WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS, THIS DON'T THINK CHUCK E. CHEESE, BOUNCE HOUSE.
DON'T THINK FRONT YARD, BIRTHDAY PARTY, BOUNCE HOUSE.
THIS IS 25,000 CONTIGUOUS SQUARE FEET OF CONNECTED BOUNCE HOUSE WITH ACTIVITIES INSIDE OF IT.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN GET ANYWHERE, AND AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE ABOUT FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT.
THE TIMEFRAME WORKS GREAT FOR US.
SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER UP TO BLACK FRIDAY IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SLOWER TIME FOR US.
THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER TRAFFIC GENERATOR AND THEN ALSO OFFERING PRICE POINTS OF ENTERTAINMENT THAT APPEAL TO ALL DIFFERENT FAMILY MEMBERS.
AS YOU KNOW, WE JUST OPENED MEOW WOLF, WHICH HAS A HIGHER PRICE POINT.
MAYBE YOU CAN'T DO THAT TODAY, BUT YOU CAN DO THE BOUNCE HOUSE OR THE BOUNCE CITY FUN BOX TODAY.
AGAIN, AND OFFERING ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS FOR ALL SOCIOECONOMIC LEVELS AND ALL FAMILIES.
SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE RIGHT NOW IS WHAT APPEALS TO US AND IT'S A PERFECT TIME FRAME FOR US AS WELL.
WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT GEORGE AND HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER IT AS WELL.
>> WAT A REALLY INTERESTING CONCEPT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER?
>> I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT YOUR SON HAS TO SAY WHILE HE'S HERE.
OTHER THAN LOOKING REALLY GOOD.
>> HE WAS GETTING NERVOUS AND MY WIFE'S TEXT ME A MILLION TIMES THAT HE'S GOT SCHOOL.
I'M HE HAS TO BE [LAUGHTER] HERE, HE WANTS TO DO EVERYBODY.
>> THANK YOU. ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I WANT THE PHONE BOX TO OPEN IS BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW HOW ALL THE KIDS WHO ARE IN THIS YEAR, ARE ON THEIR PHONES AND NOT TALKING TO ANY OTHER PARENTS, ARE NOT SOCIALIZING WITH ANY OF THEIR FRIENDS.
THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CAGED AWAY FROM THEIR CELL PHONES AND ACTUALLY HAVING FUN WITH FRIENDS AND GETTING TO HAVE NEW GOOD FRIENDS.
>> GOT A SALESMAN THERE [LAUGHTER].
ANYTHING ELSE? DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?
>> MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS AN ORDER.
CONSIDERATION IS NOW AN ORDER.
>> DISCUSSION. NOT ALL IN FAVOR.
ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
COUNCIL WILL NOW CONSIDER RESOLUTION 2023-014, PROVEN THE USE OF THE PROPOSED [INAUDIBLE] VALOREM TAX RATE OF 0.250560 OF 100 VALUATION. JEFF STRONG.
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>> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED AD VALOREM TAX RATE FOR USE IN DETERMINING PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FOR THE 2024 BUDGET.
APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION WILL ESTABLISH THE PROPOSED RATE AT 0.250560 PER 100 DOLLARS OF TAXABLE VALUE.
WE WILL RETURN ON SEPTEMBER 5TH TO FORMALLY ADOPT THE FY21 BUDGET AND TO FORMALLY ADOPT THIS AD VALOREM TAX RATE.
WITH THAT IN MIND, I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION.
NEXT IS ITEM 11 COUNCIL, TO CONSIDER PROVEN ADOPTED IN AMERICA.
THE TRANSITION PLAN [INAUDIBLE].
>> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS KATIE MESH, THE RISK MANAGER FOR THE CITY.
I AM ALSO THE ADA COORDINATOR.
I AM HERE TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR THE CITY OF GRAPEVINES ADA TRANSITION PLAN.
THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT IS A CIVIL RIGHTS LAW THAT MANDATES EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES.
THE ADA PROHIBITS DISCRIMINATION AGAINST SUCH INDIVIDUALS AND REQUIRES EQUAL ACCESS TO JOBS, PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS, GOVERNMENT SERVICES, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS.
CONGRESS PASSED THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT IN 1990.
THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE ESTABLISHED THE TRANSITION PLAN IN 2017.
DURING THAT TIME, AN ADA COORDINATOR WAS ESTABLISHED, A GRIEVANCE PROCESS WAS IMPLEMENTED.
THE CITY COMPLETED A SELF EVALUATION FOR BUILDING PARKS, AND PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THERE ARE ALSO DESIGNATED DEPARTMENT LIAISONS.
THE ADA SETS FORTH SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR PREPARATIONS OF AN ACCEPTABLE ADA TRANSITION PLAN.
AT A MINIMUM, THE ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN SHOULD INCLUDE A LIST OF THE CURRENT PHYSICAL BARRIERS AT CITY FACILITIES THAT LIMIT THE ACCESSIBILITY OF ITS PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES, OR SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, AND SOME OF THOSE ITEMS ARE IN YOUR PACKET AND APPENDIX B.
ANOTHER ITEM IS A DETAILED OUTLINE OF THE METHODS TO BE USED TO REMOVE THESE BARRIERS AND MEET THE CURRENT STANDARDS AND ACCESSIBILITY REGULATIONS.
SOME OF THOSE ARE OUTLINED IN APPENDIX D AND F.
ANOTHER ITEM IS THE NAME OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PLAN'S IMPLEMENTATION, AND THEN ANOTHER ITEM IS, ONCE THE PLAN IS APPROVED, IT WILL BE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
THIS TRANSITION PLAN IS FULFILLING A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE MANDATE, WHICH IS A LIVING DOCUMENT AND WILL ALWAYS BE EVOLVING.
THIS PLAN SHOWS OUR PROCESSES AND ACHIEVEMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.
IT ALSO SHOWS OUR PLAN PROJECTS FOR THE ADA IMPROVEMENTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE ADA IMPROVEMENTS.
WE HAVE HANDRAILS INSTALLED AT THE EAST ENTRANCE OF CITY HALL.
WE HAVE A RAMP AND AN AUTOMATIC DOOR PUSH BUTTON INSTALLED AT THE WEST ENTRANCE OF CITY HALL.
THE LIBRARY HAS ADDED SENSORY PROGRAMS AND SPECIAL NEEDS STORY TIMES.
CASEY'S CLUBHOUSE IS AN ALL-INCLUSIVE, ACCESSIBLE PLAY AREA FOR CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES, AS WELL AS ABLE-BODIED CHILDREN.
WE HAVE AUDIO CUES FOR WHEN IT'S SAFE TO CROSS THE STREET.
WE HAVE VISUAL STOP AND WALK SIGNALS.
WE HAVE VISUAL INSTRUCTION SIGNS.
WE HAVE DETECTABLE WARNING SERVICES AT INTERSECTIONS, AN ADA RAMP INSTALLATIONS AT INTERSECTIONS AND NEW CROSSINGS ACROSS THE CITY.
IN ADDITION TO THE EXAMPLES ON THE SLIDES, THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS OTHER ADA UPGRADES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SOME OF THESE INCLUDE NEW SIDEWALKS UP AND DOWN MAIN STREET, ADDING ADA SPACES IN THE NEW PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET, THE TRAIN STATION BY THE OLD FEED STORE.
WE HAVE CLOSED CAPTIONING FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND WE HAVE LISTENING DEVICE AVAILABLE BY REQUESTS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
IN OUR PARKS PROGRAM, WE HAVE CLUB ALL ACCESS, WHICH ALLOWS ADULTS WITH DISABILITIES TO ENJOY ACTIVITIES AND OUTINGS.
OUR RISE ADAPTIVE SPORTS ALLOW PEOPLE WITH ALL DIFFERENT DISABILITIES TO ENJOY ACTIVITIES ON THE LAKE.
AT METAL MOORPARK, WE HAVE ADA ACCESSIBLE CAMPSITES AND RESTROOMS,
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AND AT OAK GROVE SOFTBALL COMPLEX, THE RENOVATION IS NOW ADA ACCESSIBLE AND THE BARK PARK IS NOW ADA COMPLIANCE.THANK YOU, AND I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> ON THE SCORECARD OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE AND GRADE DO WE GET?
>> I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS, NINE MONTHS AND I WOULD I WOULD GIVE OUR SCORECARD AN 80%.
I THINK THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS VERY GOOD ABOUT HEARING THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS
[9. Zoning Change Application Z23-01 (Oak Hill) – Consider the application and make a recommendation to City Council. ]
AND REALLY IMPLEMENTING THE ADA IMPROVEMENTS AS WE CAN.>> THESE TYPE OF DEALS ARE A LITTLE SCARY TO ME, ESPECIALLY FOR A CITY LIKE GRAPEVINE.
IT'S GOT A LOT OF OLD AREAS AND IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF IT AND WHAT YOU'RE REALLY DOING AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE ADMINISTERED.
IT LOOKS LIKE IF SOMEBODY COMPLAINS AND SAYS WE'VE GOT A PLACE IN THE TOWN THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, MORE CONVENIENT FOR DISABILITY.
WE'VE GOT AN OBLIGATION TO DO IT.
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT EXISTING BUILDINGS? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE THAT ARE THEIR GRANDFATHER THEY'RE GOING TO REMAIN GRANDFATHERED.
>> UNTIL THERE IS CHANGES TO THE BUILDING?
>> THOUGH IT'S A CITY THAT'S VULNERABLE, THEN THEY CAN BE FORCED TO MAKE NO GRANDFATHERING FOR THE CITY OF FACILITY.
>> NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID, MR. MAYOR, THE EXISTING FACILITIES, R&D, GRANDFATHERED UNTIL THEY ARE SUBSTANTIALLY RENOVATED.
>> THE EXISTING FACILITIES WILL REMAIN GRANDFATHERED UNLESS AND UNTIL THEY ARE SUBSTANTIALLY RENOVATED.
>> I GUESS, LET ME REPHRASE THAT A DIFFERENT WAY.
WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES? DO WE HAVE ANY ALTERNATIVE.
WHAT HAVE WE ACCOMPLISHED BY DOING? WHAT ARE THE PROS AND CONS OF THE ACTIONS? WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
>> THE PROS ARE YOU ARE MEMORIALIZED IN THE EFFORT YOU HAVE TAKEN THE DATE TO DO A SELF-ASSESSMENT, TO EXAMINE WHAT YOU HAVE RELATIVE TO YOUR FACILITIES, TO IDENTIFY YOUR SHORTCOMINGS, AND TO ESTABLISH THE PLAN OF ADDRESSING THOSE IN A CONSTRUCTIVE AND REASONABLY ACHIEVABLE MANNER SO THAT IN THE EVENT YOU RECEIVE A COMPLAINT, YOU ARE ALREADY PRE BOLSTERED, FOR YOUR ABILITY TO DEFEND THAT BASED ON THE PRODUCTIVE STEPS YOU'VE TAKEN AS PART OF THIS TRANSITION PLAN.
>> SO IS YOUR A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ADOPT IT?
>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT?
>> ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.
>> RECOMMENDATION ON THE PLAN AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THEN WE'LL TAKE UP THE CONSENT AGENDA AFTER THAT. ITEM 29.
>> THAT INCLUDED THE DEED RESTRICTIONS OR?
>> WELL, I DON'T THINK WE CAN BE A PARTY THAT DEED RESTRICTIONS, CAN WE?
>> WE CAN. WELL, THE DEVELOPER DID INDICATE AGAIN THAT THAT WOULD BE WHAT HE WOULD DO, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD AGREE TO AS WELL.
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE DRAINAGE THE 100 FEET BARRIER?
>> YEAH, FROM THE CREEK DRAINAGE CENTER LINE OF THE DRAINAGE TO THE SOUTH.
>> IF THAT IS NOT INCORPORATED IN IT.
HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO IT, WOULD HE?
>> THAT IS CORRECT BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY INCLUDE THAT AS A CONDITION OF THE MOTION.
>> I THINK THERE'LL BE OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY IN THERE.
>> THAT'S JUST ON THE SOUTH SIDE, NOTHING ON THE WEST [OVERLAPPING] WHICH IS 25 FOOT.
>> I THINK IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT STATING THOSE, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE AN OBJECTION BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY IN WHAT THEY AGREED TO DO.
>> HIS TESTIMONY INCLUDED THAT AS AN ACCEPTABLE DEED RESTRICTION.
HE'S SHAKING HIS HEAD BACK THERE. YES NO?
>> THEY AGREED TO DO THAT IN THEIR COMMENTARY.
>> YEAH, BUT IT SHOULD BE A PART OF THE ORDINANCE.
>> THE CONDITION COULD BE THAT THE MOTION IS CONTINGENT. [OVERLAPPING]
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>> LET ME THROW A MOTION OUT THERE AND SEE IF IT WORKS.
I THINK WHY DON'T I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE PNCS RECOMMENDATION WITH THE ADDITION THAT WE ADD THE DEED RESTRICTIONS ON THOSE SOUTHERN MOST SIX PROPERTY LOTS FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT TO THE SOUTHERN PROPER LINES.
>> THAT DEED RESTRICTION MEANS WHAT TO?
>> TO PROTECT THE TREES THERE.
[10. Concept Plan CP23-01 (Oak Hill) – Consider the application and make a recommendation to City Council. ]
>> DID MATTHEW RECOMMEND SOMETHING?
>> THAT'S A MOTION TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO ONE CONDITIONED UPON LOTS ONE THROUGH SIX, INCLUDING A DEED RESTRICTION TO PRESERVE THOSE TREES SOUTH OF THE CENTER LINE OF THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
[11. Preliminary Plat for Lots 1-21, Block 1, Oak Hill – Consider the application and make a recommendation to City Council. ]
>> YEAH, CAN I JUST THROW SOMETHING OUT? IT'S REALLY RANDOM. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.
I'M FINE WITH ESPECIALLY SINCE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE WEST HAVE REMOVED THEIR OBJECTIONS TO IT.
THE ONLY THING AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THE ZONING, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER MAYBE I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO REMOVE ONE OF THESE LOTS, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU WOULD HAVE SOME COMMON SPACE THAT WAS A GREEN SPACE THAT PEOPLE COULD WALK DOWN TO, THAT'S PART OF THAT.
[12. Final Plat for Lots 1-21, Block 1, Oak Hill – Consider the application and make a recommendation to City Council. ]
MAYBE THOSE LOTS ARE A LITTLE SHORTER AND YOU CREATE A WALKWAY OR SOMETHING.WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT PART OF IT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO CONSIDER THAT, SO THAT YOU'VE GOT SOME BEAUTIFUL SPACE THERE AND PEOPLE ONLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE BACK OF THEIR LOTS.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THROW THAT OUT AS A SUGGESTION TO GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION TO THAT, PLEASE.
[13. Conditional Use Permit CU23-17 (EVA Esports) – Consider the application and make a recommendation to City Council. ]
THANK YOU. I THINK SHARON ALREADY SECONDED YOUR MOTION.>> THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT IS OF THE OPINION THAT PROPERTY OWNER ALLOWED TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO WITH THEIR PROPERTY AND A GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL THEM WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY THAT PASS TO SENATE, THEY'RE LIKE WHO VOTES PASSED IN THE HOUSE THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE CITIES RIGHT TO ZONE PROPERLY TOTALLY AWAY.
THAT'S THE MOVEMENT THAT'S IN FORCE IN TEXAS, THE NEXT LEGISLATURE IS LABILE TO DO IT.
IF THAT HAPPENS, THAT WILL BE CHAOS.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE HAVE R50 ON THREE SIDES OF THE PROPERTIES.
ZONING AND LAND USE IS SUPPOSED TO BE CONSISTENT IF IT'S PROPERLY APPLIED AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A PLAN.
ALL OF THAT PROPERTY WAS ZONED,
[14. Special Use Permit SU23-03 (EVA Esports) – Consider the application and make a recommendation to City Council. ]
I THINK PCC AT ONE TIME AND IT'S CONVERTED TO R50, AND THOSE PEOPLE COULD HAVE MADE THE SAME ARGUMENT.PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING THAT ARE OBJECTING TO IT TONIGHT.
THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO THEIR PROPERTY.
[15. Conditional Use Permit CU23-18 (Gaylord Texan Temporary Parking Lot) – Consider the application and make a recommendation to City Council. ]
IT WAS DOWN ZONED R50, AND THE PROBLEM WITH COMMERCIAL, YOU HAVE LIGHTS, YOU HAVE DELIVERY TRUCKS, YOU HAVE NOISE, YOU HAVE A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES INVOLVED SO PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED IT IN OUR PRIOR ACTION IS ZONE THREE SIDES R50, SO IT WOULD BE PRETTY HARD TO JUSTIFY ANYTHING ELSE I THINK.BUT I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO INCORPORATE SOMETHING THAT WE REASONABLY CAN TO PROTECT THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE HEARD THE PRESENTATION.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN [INAUDIBLE].
>> OKAY AND EVERYBODY IS SATISFIED WITH MOTIONS AND SECONDS.
ANY DISCUSSION? NOT ALL IN FAVOR.
>> ALL RIGHT. CONSIDERATION IS AN ORDER.
>> PRELIMINARY PLAT OAK HILL WAS APPROVED,61.
>> I'LL MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE STATEMENT OF FINDINGS IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF LOTS ONE THROUGH 21, BLOCK 1, OAK HILL.
>> THE FINAL PLAT OAK HILL WAS APPROVED 6-1.
>> MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL PROVE THE STATEMENT OF FINDINGS IN THE FINAL PLAT OF LOTS ONE THROUGH 21, BLOCK 1, OAK HILL.
>> ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSE. ITEM 33.
[16. Conditional Use Permit CU23-19 (Gaylord Texan New Access Driveway) – Consider the application and make a recommendation to City Council. ]
MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 34.>> ISSUE 2303 WAS APPROVED 70.
>> THE CONDITIONAL UCU 2318 WAS APPROVED FOR FIVE YEARS
[17. Conditional Use Permit CU23-20 (Three Barrels Beer Garden (Ferrari’s Italian Villa and Chop House)) – Consider the application and make a recommendation to City Council.]
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AND THAT THEY COME BACK DURING YEAR 3 OR 4 WITH AN UPDATE ON THEIR PLANS.>> CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING BEFORE I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE A SPECIFIC EITHER THREE OR FOUR YEARS RATHER THAN THREE OR FOUR?
>> WELL, THE REASON WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THE REASON WE DID THAT WAS WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'LL BE.
WE WANT AS COMPLETE A PLANS AS WE CAN SEE.
>> SO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF YEAR 4.
>> I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH PNC'S RECOMMENDATION.
>> CU2320 WAS APPROVED 70 INSTEAD OF SIX TO ALLOW THREE NEW SPEAKERS.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE P&Z'S RECOMMENDATION SECOND.
IT'S NOT THE NUMBER OF THE SPEAKERS.
WHEN I WAS A KID AND YOU CAN REMEMBER THIS TOO MR. OLIVER, YOU KNOW WHERE I LIVE, I GREW UP.
[18. Consider the minutes of the July 18, 2023 Regular Planning and Zoning Commission meeting and August 1, 2023 Planning and Zoning Commission Workshop. ]
I COULD HEAR SKIPPER CHAFFIN ANNOUNCING THE FOOTBALL GAME THAT WAS TEN BLOCKS AWAY AND COULD HEAR THE BAND.YOU COULD, JUST LIKE YOU WERE IN THE STANDS.
THEY ONLY HAD PROBABLY A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS.
THEN WE'VE GOT THIS AREA OF DALLAS ROAD THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME COMMERCIAL THERE.
THERE'S JUST THIS MOVEMENT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE OUTSIDE, HAVE SPEAKERS FROM THE ATMOSPHERE AND THAT'S FINE.
BUT YOU CAN'T CONTROL THE NOISE AND SOONER OR LATER WE HAD A BIG PROBLEM WITH THE GAYLORD.
IF WE SET THE PRECEDENT IN THAT AREA, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME STOPPING IT ON BALANCE ROW.
WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A MONSTER.
I HAVE THIS STRONG FEELING THAT YOU DON'T NEED.
YOU'VE GOT TO PROTECT THE SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU'VE GOT TO PROTECT THEM FROM NOISE.
THEY DON'T NEED TO BE LISTENING TO MUSIC AT NIGHT.
IF IT WASN'T FOR THE MUSIC SPEAKERS LIKE WE HAVE ON SOME OF THESE OTHER RESTAURANTS, IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MUSIC AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPEAKERS, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO STOP IT FROM INTERFERING WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I COULD SUPPORT IT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MUSIC AND MAYBE LIMITED SPEAKERS, BUT THE MUSIC IS CONTINUOUS.
THAT'S GOING TO GO ON A LONG INTO THE NIGHT.
I JUST THINK IT'S A BIG MISTAKE, NOT ONLY FOR THESE PEOPLE AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IT'S BIG MISTAKE FOR US AS WE TRY TO DEVELOP DALLAS ROAD BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT THE SAME THING.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DENY THEM AND IT'S JUST GOING TO GET WORSE AND WORSE.
IT'S ALMOST IF WE APPROVE THIS TO ME, IT'S ALMOST WE OUGHT TO JUST ABANDON DALLAS ROAD AND AVOID THAT NIGHTMARE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DESTROY THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN GRAPEVINE IF WE DON'T WAKE UP.
>> I THINK DALLAS ROAD IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY THOUGH.
I'M CONCERNED WITH DALLAS ROAD BECAUSE OF THE CLOSEST OF THE RESIDENTIAL.
>> THIS ONE IS ALMOST AS CLOSE.
WHEN WE HAVE THE FESTIVALS ON MAIN STREET PEOPLE ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOODS CAN HEAR THAT MUSIC INTO THE NIGHT, BUT IT'S ONLY A NIGHT OR TWO AND SO THEY CAN TOLERATE.
BUT YOU HAVE THAT POSSIBILITY EVERY NIGHT.
IT'S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE THIS COMMUNITY EVER MADE.
IF WE START OPENING THIS DOOR TO MUSIC AND SPEAKERS AND THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
>> ONE COULD THINK ABOUT SPEAKERS AND RESTAURANTS.
>> THEY GOT PLENTY OF BUSINESSES AND THEY'RE ALL SUCCESSFUL.
THERE'S NO NEED TO INVOLVE THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS AND ENJOYMENT OF THEIR PROPERTY.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROTECT PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ENJOY IT HERE.
BUT IF YOU TAKE AWAY THAT ENJOYMENT, PEOPLE TELL ME EVERYDAY, I ENJOY LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY.
IT'S THE LOW CRIME IS CLOSED TO EVERYTHING, IT'S CLEAN.
YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR SUPPORT AND YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY THE SUCCESS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE IT LIGHTLY.
THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE ON THIS THAN THE SPEAKERS AND A LOT OF THESE OTHER RESTAURANTS.
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BECAUSE THERE'S MUSIC INVOLVED AND IT'S THE MUSIC.IF THEY COULD CUT THE MUSIC, I THINK I COULD APPROVE IT, BUT THE MUSIC IS JUST ANNOYING.
>> IT'S ANNOYING TO YOU MAYOR, BUT IT'S NOT ANNOYING TO EVERYBODY AND MOST RESTAURANTS WON'T LET THE MUSIC BE TOO LOUD TO OFFEND THEIR CUSTOMERS.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
>> WELL, IF IT DOESN'T WORK, I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE KNOW YOUR POSITION.
>> YOU ARE PLAYING WITH FIRE AND YOU DON T KNOW IT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ONE THING I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TRAIN MR. OLIVER, ON THIS COUNCIL, ABOUT THE EFFECT AND THE RISK OF NOISE.
ALRIGHT. THAT COMPLETES YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
>> YES, SIR. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE COUNSEL, TURNER, LIGHTER CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST.
NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. WELL, THROUGH 28.
WE HAVE ANY GUEST PRESENT CAN REQUEST ANY OF THESE ITEMS BE REMOVED FOR FULL DISCUSSION, DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS? NONE. ALRIGHT CONSENT IS ITEM 12 TO 28.
>> MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE.
I DON'T WANT TO REMOVE ANYTHING.
I HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT ITEM 20.
>> I HAVE A COMMENT, I DON'T WANT TO REMOVE ANYTHING, BUT BEFORE WE VOTE YES, SIR.
FOR OUR GOOD PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, MR. BECK, WHO WAS NOT HERE WHEN WE HAD THE INCIDENT FOR MONTHS AND YEARS ON AND WITH A VERY NOISY ICE MACHINE THAT WAS IN THE KITCHEN THAT INTERRUPTED AND CONFUSE THE DISCUSSION IN THE COUNCILS, WORKSHOPS, AND VARIOUS EXECUTIVE SESSION.
EVEN WITH THE DOOR CLOSED, SO WHEN YOU ARE BUYING THE ICE MACHINES, WHICH THE MEMO SAYS THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING BE DOING.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK THE DECIBEL LEVEL IF THOSE DEVICES, BECAUSE IT IS STATED IN THE SPECIFICATION AND WHEN IT GETS TO BE UP ABOUT 70 OR 80 OR EVEN 4,000 LIKE THOSE WERE YOU MIGHT CONSIDER SELECTING ANOTHER MODEL.
>> I THINK 12 TO 28 THE MOTION IS AN ORDER.
>> ALL OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.
>> WE NEED THE MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> DO YOU WISH TO CALL FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN?
>> ALL RIGHT. OPPOSE COUNCIL STANDS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.