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[CALL TO ORDER]
LET'S CALL THE BRIEFING ORDER.CONSIDER OUR AGENDA NOW FOR YOU TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS.
[3. Zoning Change Application Z23-01, Concept Plan CP23-01 (Oak Hill), Preliminary Plat for Lots 1-21, Block 1, Oak Hill and Final Plat for Lots 1-21, Block 1, Oak Hill – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by 360 Land Partners, LLC requesting to rezone 5.75 acres from “PCD”, Planned Commerce Development District to “R5.0”, Zero-Lot-Line District, and to plat 21 lots. The subject property is located at 4700 State Highway 360. ]
THE FIRST CASE, WHICH IS Z 2301.AND ALSO CP STANDING FOR CONCEPT PLAN 2301, AS WELL REFERRED TO AS OK HILL.
YOU HAVE A LETTER FROM THE APPLICANT REQUESTING TO TABLE THIS REQUEST UNTIL AUGUST 15TH UNTIL THE AUGUST 15TH MEETING.
AND THAT'S THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL FOR THE FIRST CASE.
WE FOR THE PRELIMINARY FINAL PLAT, WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE APPLICANT AS WELL ASKING US.
CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT CAN GO INTO PLANNED COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THE CURRENT ZONING? IT'S BASICALLY A COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL USES FOR EXAMPLE, CONVENIENCE STORE.
NEXT LEVEL WOULD BE A COLLEAGUE.
OKAY, WELL, WE. SORRY I WAS LATE.
I WAS AT THE COUNCIL EXECUTIVE.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND WE JUST SAID A RECOMMENDATION TO YOUR TABLE.
[4. Zoning Change Application Z23-05, Planned Development PD23-03 (Dove Station) and a Final Plat of Lots 1-19, 20X and 21X, Block 1 and Lot 1, Block 2, Dove Station – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by Mufasa Meadows LLC requesting to rezone 3.78 acres from “GU”, Governmental Use District to “R-5.0”, Zero-Lot-Line District; a planned development overlay to deviate from but not be limited to a reduction of setbacks, a reduction of required distance between buildings, and an increase in building coverage and impervious lot coverage; and a replat of Lots 1 and 2, Block 10, Parra Linda Estates, Section IV. The subject property is located at 3051 Dove Road.]
THE NEXT REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS BOTH A ZONE CHANGE REQUEST AND A PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY REQUEST FOR STATION.THIS IS AN EXISTING 3.7 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3051 DOVE ROAD.
PRESENTLY ZONED GOVERNMENTAL USE.
SO THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING AS PART OF THEIR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO HAVE SEVERAL DEVIATIONS FROM THE ZERO LOT LINE. DIMENSIONAL SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
SO FRONT SIDE REAR YARD BUILDING SETBACKS.
REDUCTION OF REQUIRED DISTANCES BETWEEN BUILDINGS.
MINIMUM DEPTH FOR SEVERAL LOTS.
AND THEN. BUILDING COVERAGE AND IMPERVIOUS LOT COVERAGE THEY WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE.
IT WAS DEVELOPED INITIALLY IN 1991 AS INTENDED FOR A FOODLINE GROCERY STORE THAT LASTED APPROXIMATELY 5 TO 6 YEARS THEN CARROLL ISD PURSUED THE PROPERTY IT HAS MOST PRESENTLY UTILIZED IT FOR STORAGE AND OFFICE PURPOSES.
IT'S ADJACENT TO THE FIRE STATION.
AND OF COURSE, SOUTH LAKE IS ACROSS NORTH CAMPBELL AVENUE TO.
THIS IS THE DIMENSIONAL CONTROL SITE PLAN SHOWING THE 19 DETACHED LOTS AND TWO OPEN SPACE LOTS.
THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 6400FT² AND ACTS AS A FOCAL POINT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN ALL OF THE DETACHED LOTS ARE RADIATING OFF OF THAT ADJACENT TO THE EXTERIOR PROPERTY LINE.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.
A MASONRY SCREEN WALL ALONG DOVE ROAD, OF COURSE, OUTSIDE OF THE BACK OF CURB AND THE EXISTING SIDEWALK, AND THEN A WOOD FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMNS ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING FIRE STATION TO THE NORTH.
AS FAR AS THE DEVIATIONS, THERE'S QUITE A FEW.
THEY ARE PROPOSING TO INCREASE MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA FROM 60% TO 70%.
THEY ARE REDUCING SETBACKS TO FRONT YARD.
THEY'RE URGING TO REDUCE IT BY FIVE FEET FROM 25FT TO 20FT.
REAR YARD, REDUCE IT FROM 25FT TO 15 FT.
SIDE YARD REDUCING IT BY ONE FOOT FROM THE STANDARD 6FT TO 5FT.
ON FIRE AND BUILDING CODE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH.
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THIS DOES NOT AFFECT ALL OF THE LOTS WITHIN THE PROPOSED 19 LOT SUBDIVISION.THEY ARE ASKING FOR THAT REDUCTION TO 92FT.
OTHERWISE THE REST OF THEM WOULD BE 100FT.
AND THEN. THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH A REDUCTION IN PESTICIDE.
SO OVERALL, THEY HAVE PROVIDED US SOME IMAGERY OF PROPOSED ELEVATIONS FOR TWO DIFFERENT PLANS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION A, PLAN A AND B, THESE ARE SHOWN TO BE TWO STORY STRUCTURES OVERALL, MAXIMIZING THE LOT AREA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
NOT SURE IF YOU HAD A QUESTION.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SO THE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT IS ON THE FIRE STATION WHERE THERE IT'S LOOKS LIKE IT'S ACCESSING TO THAT, I GUESS BOUNDARY LINE. WHAT'S THE PLAN? THAT ACCESS EASEMENT BE ELIMINATED WITH THIS REPLATING? IT'D BE ONLY IT DOESN'T GO.
THEY'LL NO LONGER BE THE CASE.
IT BASICALLY SERVES AS THE DRIVEWAY INTO THE REAR OF THE FIRE STATION.
OKAY. AND THE SAME THING FOR THE UTILITY EASEMENTS THAT ARE IN THE SAME.
NO, THE UTILITY. THE UTILITY EASEMENTS WILL REMAIN IN THAT LOCATION BECAUSE THERE IS A WATER LINE THROUGH THAT DRIVEWAY THAT WILL TIE IN TO THE NEW INTERNAL UTILITIES THAT ARE BEING BUILT WITH THE SUBDIVISION.
SO UTILITIES, THEY'LL JUST MOVE THEM TO THE SIDE, TO THE SIDE YARD, ALONG ALONG LOT 16 AND 17.
AND THEN YOU HAVE EVEN MORE QUESTION.
WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION ON THE PLAT? THE PURPOSE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.
DEDICATION. ORIGINALLY WE WERE LOOKING TO DO THAT AS A SIGHT DISTANCE TRIANGLE.
WE REVERTED THAT TO A RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION, AS YOU POINTED OUT, FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE LOT.
SO IT IS AN ENCUMBRANCE ON THE LOT.
THE PLAID, AS YOU CAN SEE, LOT ONE BLOCK TO THE UPPER LEFT IS WHAT EXISTS TODAY.
TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL ROAD THERE.
THERE IS A MEDIAN OPENING THERE ON NORTH KIMBALL WITH THE LEFT TURN INTO THE SUBDIVISION AS WELL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY.
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLAT. GOOD QUESTION ABOUT THE ACCESS.
SO ON KIMBALL, YOU CAN TURN LEFT AND RIGHT WHEN YOU SAID THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THERE'S NOT THERE'S A MEDIAN OPENING THERE.
THERE'S ALSO A LEFT TURN LANE THAT PROVIDES ACCESS INTO THE.
WHAT'S BEING USED FOR THE DRUMBEAT TODAY.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PULL THAT MEETING NOISE BACK ON.
OKAY. NO PLAN TO CONTROL ACCESS IN AND OUT.
IT'S A BUSY STREET. YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT THERE, BUT THERE IS NO NUMBER WHERE THEY'D HAVE TO.
IT WOULD NEED TO BE PART OF A PD.
TO DO A CONTROLLED ACCESS POINT? YES.
[5. Historic Landmark Subdistrict HL23-01 (404 East Franklin Street) – City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application submitted by David and Gloria Ewbank requesting designation as a Historical Landmark sub-district. The subject property is currently zoned “R-7.5”, Single-Family Residential District.]
IN OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS A PROPOSED HISTORIC LANDMARK.SUB-DISTRICT DESIGNATION FOR AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME LOCATED AT 404 EAST FRANKLIN STREET.
THIS PROPERTY IS PRESENTLY ZONED R SEVEN AND ONE HALF SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
[INAUDIBLE] THE PROPERTY OWNERS, DAVID AND GLORIA EUBANK, ARE SEEKING AND HAVE RECEIVED A APPROVAL OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK SUB-DISTRICT DESIGNATION.
A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO DO AN EXPANSION ONTO THIS HOME.
AND IT WILL BE MAINTAINED AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
IT HAS SOME LOCAL HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE.
ITS MINIMAL TRADITIONAL STYLE HOUSE BUILT BETWEEN 47 AND 48.
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION APPROVED THIS REQUEST AT A MEETING ON JULY 20TH.
ALL OTHER DESIGN GUIDELINES ARE ATTACHED TO THE.
I WANT TO TELL YOU, THIS IS WHERE I STARTED THE FIRST GRADE.
AND I WAS IN THIS HOUSE AND MY PARENTS OWNED IT.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY BOUGHT IT.
I GUESS THEY DID, THOUGH. IT SAYS THEY DID RIGHT UP.
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SO I LEARNED THINGS IN RIGHT UP.IT'S THE LAST HOUSE IN THAT BLOCK THEY'RE REDOING, SO I HAVE TO WAIT TILL END OF THE LINE.
SO THAT'S. YOU'RE ONE OF OUR MOST PROMINENT CITIZENS AS WELL.
IT MENTIONS MY FATHER WAS A TEXAS RANGER.
OH, HE WAS A RANGER FOR THE CENTENNIAL IN 1936.
BUT IT'S NOT LIKE HE HAD A LIFE OF BEING A TEXAS RANGER, THOUGH.
SO I NEEDED TO GET A LITTLE BIT OUT.
YEAH. WE'VE GOT ONE MORE ITEM.
THE PROPERTY IS ADDRESSED AT 35 TO 84.
MERCURY DRIVE IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF MERCURY AND PENINSULA DRIVES.
IT'S CURRENTLY PLANNED AS ONE LOT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO BASICALLY VACATE OR VOID THE PREVIOUSLY FILED PLAT, SO THE PROPERTY REVERTS BACK TO THE TWO LOTS AS IT WAS IN THE LAST PLAT, BUT THE LAST IT WAS PLATTED IN 1990.
WE HAVE TWO LOTS AND THEN LAST YEAR THE OWNER IN 2022 AMENDED THE PLAT AS ONE LOT AND NOW THEY'RE JUST WANTING TO GO BACK TO THE 1993. THE ATTORNEY SAYS FINE, IT'S ZONED R7 FIVE AND MEETS THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
QUESTION. I'M JUST LAUGHING AT THE WORD VACATION.
YEAH. I WAS LIKE, THAT'S INTERESTING.
I WAS WRAPPING UP CLASS AT PENINSULA.
YES, THERE'S A LOT OF HOMES IN THAT AREA.
YES. THE COUNCIL'S RETURNING FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT BEGAN AT 630.
ANY ACTION OF THE COUNCIL AS A RESULT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, MR. ROMULO? NO, YOUR HONOR.
OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH THANKFULNESS.
WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE GIVEN THIS COMMUNITY FOR SO MANY YEARS.
WE ASK THAT YOU WILL BE WITH US THIS EVENING, THAT WE WILL MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, THAT WE WILL LISTEN AND HAVE AN OPEN HEART, TO LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY AND MAKE GOOD DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
WE SAY THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME.
TONIGHT, WE FIRST HAVE JOINT MEETINGS BETWEEN THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL.
WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS ADVERTISED.
WE'LL LET THE STAFF INTRODUCE THE REQUEST THAT'S BEING MADE.
WE'LL GIVE THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
IF YOU ARE NOT AN APPLICANT AND WISH TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO ANY OF THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS, YOU NEED TO REGISTER WITH MISS BROOKS, THE CITY SECRETARY.
SHE'LL CALL ON YOU IN THE ORDER THAT YOU HAVE REGISTERED.
AND AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED, PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION WILL SEPARATE, HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING, DISCUSS THE MERITS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL ON EACH OF THESE ITEMS. SO YOU'RE INVITED TO BE A PART OF YOUR GOVERNMENT TONIGHT.
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PRELIMINARY PLATS OF LOT ONE THROUGH 21 BLOCK ONE OAK HILL AND THE FINAL PLAT OF LOTS ONE THROUGH 21 BLOCK ONE OAK HILL.THE APPLICANTS FOR THE OAK HILL REZONE REQUEST.
MR. JOSH AND JACOB BOURNE HAVE SUBMITTED A REZONE REQUEST FOR 5.75 ACRES FROM A PLANNED COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO AN R 5.00 LOT LINE DISTRICT, LOCATED AT 4700 STATE HIGHWAY 360, WITH THE INTENT TO DEVELOP 21 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOTS WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
YOU HEARD THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT AND THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR PNC? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE THE REQUEST UNTIL AUGUST 15TH.
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION HAS VOTED TO TABLE THESE APPLICATIONS TO THE MAY 15TH MEETING.
SIMILAR MOTION IS IN ORDER FROM THE COUNCIL.
I'LL MOVE TO TABLE TO AUGUST 15TH.
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CONTINUED UNTIL AUGUST 15TH OF THIS YEAR.
WE'LL NOW DECLARE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONING APPLICATION Z 20 3-5 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD 20 3-3, WHICH IS THE DOVE STATION AND FINAL PLATS OF LOT ONE THROUGH 1920 AND 28, ONE X, BLOCK ONE AND LOT ONE A BLOCK TWO DOVE STATION.
ERICA. THIS REQUEST IS FOR A ZONE CHANGE FOR APPROXIMATELY 3.79 ACRES FROM A GOVERNMENTAL USE ZONING DISTRICT TO AN R 5.00 LOT LINE DISTRICT.
FOR THE PURPOSES OF DEVELOPING A NEW RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3051 DOVE ROAD AND WAS MOST RECENTLY UTILIZED BY THE CARROLL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND OPERATED AS AN ADMINISTRATION BUILDING AND FOR STORAGE PURPOSES.
THE INTENT OF THIS APPLICATION AND OF THE APPLICANT IS TO REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY INTO A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WITH 19 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOTS AND TWO OPEN SPACE LOTS. AS PROPOSED, A NEW PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH WRAPS AROUND THE SITE AND AROUND ONE LARGE OPEN SPACE.
APPROXIMATELY 6400FT² IN SIZE WILL FEATURE 19 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOTS RADIATING OUTWARD ALONG THE NEW RIGHT OF WAY, TAKING SOLE ACCESS FROM A NEW DRIVEWAY OR EXCUSE ME, RIGHT OF WAY OFF OF NORTH KIMBALL AVENUE.
THE TABLE ABOVE ON THE SCREEN DETAILS MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WITHIN THE ZERO LOT LINE DISTRICT AS COMPARED TO THE REQUESTED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DEVIATIONS. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DEVIATE FROM THE MAXIMUM BUILDING COVERAGE BY INCREASING IT BY 15% FROM 40% TO 55%. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA PER LOT FROM 60% TO 70%.
MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK DEPTH FROM 6FT TO 5FT.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY DISTANCES BETWEEN BUILDINGS ARE PROPOSED TO BE REDUCED FROM 12FT TO 10FT.
ALL OF THESE PROPOSED SIX DEVIATIONS ARE FOR ALL OF THE 19 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
HOWEVER, THERE IS ONE PROPOSED DEVIATION TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH FOR FOUR LOTS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION FROM 100FT TO 92FT. THOSE CAN BE SHOWN ON THE DIMENSIONAL CONTROL SITE PLAN WITH TWO LOTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND TWO LOTS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
ALBERT, CAN YOU GO UP TO THE DIMENSIONAL CONTROL SITE? SO BETWEEN LOTS EIGHT AND NINE ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND LOTS 15 AND 16 ON THE NORTH SIDE.
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HARWELL EDITION AND PECAN GAP EDITION TO THE NORTH ACROSS DOVE ROAD.AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THERE WILL BE ONE ACCESS POINT TO NORTH CAMPBELL AVENUE.
THIS PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN ANY OF THE NOISE ZONES AS INDICATED BY THE AIRPORT ENVIRONS IMPACT MAP IN THE MASTER PLAN OF THE CITY DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS A GOVERNMENTAL USE DISTRICT.
IT IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AS SUCH.
REGARDING NOTIFICATION, STAFF SENT OUT PROPERTY OWNER NOTIFICATIONS ON JULY 7TH TO 34 PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE SUBJECT REQUEST.
WE DID RECEIVE EIGHT RESPONSES WITHIN THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION BUFFER, WHICH IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH EQUALS APPROXIMATELY 12.68% OF THE LAND AREA WITHIN THAT NOTIFICATION BUFFER.
WE DID ALSO RECEIVE 17 RESPONSES IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST.
THOSE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU AT YOUR DAIS.
HOWEVER, NONE OF THOSE ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION BUFFER.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT, MR. ETHAN MAYKUS, IS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT EITHER OF YOU MAY HAVE.
YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING HONORABLE MAYOR TATE AND COUNCIL.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN OLIVER AND Z.
MY NAME IS ETHAN MAYKUS, 604 EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, SUITE 102 GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.
COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT OUR DOVE STATION NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THESE THOUGHT PROCESSES THAT YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT ACTUALLY STARTED IN MARCH OF 2022.
SO THIS IS A MAP, AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE AREA ON A WIDE ANGLE.
WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS OUR LOCATION, DOVE STATION.
WEST. YOU HAVE DOVE TO OUR NORTH NORTHEAST.
AND THEN THIS IS THE BOUNDARY OF SOUTH LAKE AND GRAPEVINE WITH THE WHITE DOTTED LINE RIGHT HERE.
WE'VE SHADED IN THE R SEVEN FIVES.
WE DO HAVE ADJACENCY TO PERRY LINDA, WHICH IS OUR SEVEN FIVE, AND BELIEVE THAT OUR POSITIONING AND OUR WEDGE IS IS SUITED FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A TRANSITIONAL TYPE USAGE.
WE DO HAVE ANOTHER SCENARIO OF R FIVE TO OUR NORTH THAT IS ACROSS FROM YATES CORNER.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE STATION NUMBER TWO THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO DOVE STATION.
A LOT OF FLAT WORK, A LOT OF CONCRETE, AND THERE'S SOME SLIDES COMING UP WITH SOME VIEWS FROM DOVE KIND OF AT THE CORNER OF PERRY.
LINDA LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE OLD ADMIN BUILDING THAT'S FROM DOVE, MORE OF A STRAIGHT ON VIEW AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT PHOTOS I'LL SHOW YOU I HAVE TAKEN.
AND WHAT I DID HERE WAS TO MAINTAIN APPROXIMATELY 6 TO 8FT PERSONALLY AROUND THE PERRY LINDA FENCES, JUST TO SHOW THE CONDITION OF THE SITE AND THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS IT DOES HAVE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.
BUT I JUST THINK WE CAN DO A LOT BETTER.
THANKS, ALBERT. AND AGAIN, THIS IS THERE'S SOME PHOTOS THAT ARE A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY AND THERE'S SOME CLOSER TOGETHER THAT BUT I DID KEEP THAT PROPORTION AS I WENT AROUND THE PARRA LINDA SITE.
CURRENTLY THERE'S ACCESS OFF OF DOVE ROAD AND THEN THERE'S ACCESS OFF OF KIMBALL.
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AND OUR PROPOSAL WE WOULD PUT A MASONRY FENCE COMPLEMENTARY ESTHETICALLY PLEASING PERSONALLY REALLY LIKES FIRE STATION TWO LIKE THE STONE AND I WOULD COMMIT AND IN THIS PROPOSAL AND WOULD LIKE TO MIMIC AND COPY THE STONE THAT'S ON THE DOVE STATION WALL AND THE FIRE STATION TO MATCH.SO WITH THAT THAT DOVE ROAD LOOKS COHESIVE WITH A MASONRY WALL.
AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE THE EXIT AND ENTRANCE OFF OF.
KIMBALL. THIS DOTTED LINE SHOWS THE THE ROUTE OF ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO DOVE STATION.
AND THEN THESE GREEN ISLANDS THAT YOU SEE KIND OF FLOATING IN SPACE ARE ACTUALLY OUR GREEN SPACE.
THE CENTER ONE IS ABOUT 6400FT².
SO ABOUT THE AVERAGE SIZE OF ONE OF OUR LOTS IN THERE.
AND THE PROJECT, THE HOMES WE WANT TO SURROUND AND LOOK AND FEEL A SENSE OF COMMON AREA TO THOSE GREEN SPACES WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THESE HOMES DO LOOK IN TOWARDS THAT GREEN SPACE AND YOU'LL SEE SOME RENDERINGS AND SOME THINGS THAT WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
HERE'S THE THE PLAN THAT ERICA SHOWED.
THIS IS IMPORTANT ON THE DEVIATIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED.
HERE IS YOUR TYPICAL R5 LOT AND THE DEVIATIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED.
THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO PUT IN THAT TABLE.
I DO WANT TO POINT THESE THINGS OUT SPECIFICALLY TO TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
THE NEIGHBORS THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH AND I'VE HEARD THAT THERE IS CONCERNS ABOUT PRIVACY.
THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT SECOND STORY WINDOWS PRIOR TO EVEN SPEAKING WITH THEM, BECAUSE WE ARE BUILDING OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN GRAPEVINE AND ADJACENT TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE TRY TO BE VERY GOOD ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
SO WITH THE SETBACK DEVIATIONS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING, YOUR R5 IS YOUR SIX, SIX AND 25 AND 25.
SO WHAT WE HAVE IS FIVE, FIVE, 15 AND 20.
AND WHAT AND WHAT THIS DOES IS IT ALLOWS US TO PUT A LOT OF PROGRAM ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
YOU'LL SEE WHEN I CLICK THIS BUTTON NEXT TO THE LEFT, I'M ONLY ALLOWED OR I'M ONLY ABLE TO GET ABOUT 1400 SQUARE FEET DOWNSTAIRS ONCE YOU PUT A GARAGE INTO THAT HOUSE.
SO I AM FORCED TO GO TO A TWO STORY HOME.
SO, YES, WE DO HAVE A BIGGER FOOTPRINT ON OUR TYPICAL DOVE STATION LOT.
BUT WHAT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IS GET APPROXIMATELY 2100FT² OF LIVABLE SPACE ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
AND IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO NOT PUT WINDOWS AT THE REAR ON THE SECOND STORY.
SO THE PRIVACY CONCERNS TO OUR LINDA NEIGHBORS, WE WOULD HAVE OUR OUR MASSING TO THE FRONT OF THESE HOMES AND TO THE SIDES AND NOT TO THE REAR TO TO ALLOW MUCH MORE PRIVACY FOR THE PAIR OF LINDA NEIGHBORS TO THE REAR.
HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF HOME ELEVATIONS ON ERICA'S STAFF PRESENTATION, WHICH WAS BETTER THAN MINE.
AND I JUST WANT TO KEEP MAKING THAT CLEAR.
THESE ARE CONCEPTS THAT WE ARE PUTTING OUT THERE THAT WE WANT TO BUILD.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS EXACT HOUSE WILL BE BUILT, BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING VERY, VERY SIMILAR.
THIS THIS HOUSE IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST HOUSE.
IT'S GOT A LOT OF TWO STORY MASSING AT THE FRONT.
IT'S TWO D WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE BECAUSE OF THE CAPTIONS AT THE BOTTOM ON THOSE TABLES THAT'S SHOWING OUR MATERIALS ARE HEAVILY LOADED TOWARD MASONRY.
WE'VE GOT SOME CAST STONE, NATURAL STONE, BRICK, CEMENTITIOUS SIDING WITH SOME JAMES HARDIE THERE ON THE FRONT, BUT HIGH END FINISHES ON THE EXTERIOR OF THESE HOMES TO COMPLIMENT THE AREA.
SO THAT THE GREEN SPACE IN THE CENTER.
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS ADD A LOT OF OPEN SPACE IN THE CENTER OF THIS COMMUNITY.
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AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT SINGLE LOADS THE STREETS.SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE IN THE GARAGES, THE DRIVEWAYS.
BUT IF SOMEBODY WAS TO HAVE COMPANY OVER, WE ALSO HAVE A SINGLE LOADED STREET ON THE MAJORITY OF THIS COMMUNITY SO PEOPLE CAN PARK AND BE OUT OF THE WAY AND YOU'LL SEE PROPORTIONATE SLIDE COMING UP, WHICH WILL HELP SHOW THAT A LITTLE BIT EASIER.
BUT THE ZERO LOT LINE HAS BEEN SAID MANY TIMES.
AND IN BETWEEN THESE HOUSES, THE PROPORTIONS THAT ARE ON THE SLIDES I'M FIXING TO SHOW ARE ACCURATE.
THE HUMAN BEINGS THAT YOU SEE IN THESE PHOTOS, THE VEHICLES, THE STREET WIDTHS, THE HOUSES, THESE AND THE SPACING IN BETWEEN THE HOUSES ARE ALL ACCURATE.
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS ADDED KIND OF A MAXIMUM SIZE HOME ON THE LOT TO SHOW WORST CASE SCENARIO.
AND SO WE'VE ADDED THESE INTERNAL VIEWING SLIDES SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THE PROPORTION WILL BE.
THAT'S A HALF TON PICKUP TRUCK.
THAT'S A SEDAN. THOSE ARE EXACTLY TO SCALE.
HERE'S A COUPLE OTHER INTERNAL VIEWS.
YOU GET TO SEE THE WHOLE WIDTH OF THAT GREEN SPACE.
THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 6400FT ON THE ON THE TOP RENDERING THERE.
AND THAT IS A VIEW FROM IF YOUR BACK WAS TO LINDA LOOKING TOWARDS THE FIRE STATION IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE ON THAT TOP SLIDE AND THAT'S TEN FEET BETWEEN EACH HOUSE.
I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO ME.
THAT'S OUR PROPOSAL FOR DOVE STATION.
I'LL STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR FAVORABLE VOTE.
THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR MR. MAKUS. ON THE INTERNAL ROAD.
IS IT ONE WAY AROUND THAT YOUR GREEN SPACE OR IS IT TWO WAY BOTH WAYS? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
IT IS ACTUALLY TWO WAY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE PATTERN OF TRAFFIC WILL STAY TO THE RIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHY I LIKED THAT ONE SLIDE WITH THE CARS ON IT, BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU THAT THAT THAT SPATIAL AWARENESS OF HOW MUCH SPACE WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN BETWEEN THE CARS.
SO IT IS TWO WAY, BUT I DO THINK THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC WILL STAY TO THE RIGHT.
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT NO WINDOWS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
I AM. AND I WOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC.
I WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT THAT INTO MY REQUEST WITH THE ADJACENT PAIR.
OKAY. PUT THAT IN FOR, I BELIEVE, ONE THROUGH TEN.
AND SOMETHING I ALSO WANTED TO SAY WAS OUR INITIAL PLAN.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE IS WE INITIALLY HAD 11 HOMES BACKING UP TO 11 HOMES FROM OUR PROPOSAL TO PARRA LINDA, WE'RE AT 19 RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WE DID WAS PUT TEN HOMES BACKING UP TO 11 IN PARRA LINDA.
SO THERE IS A SMALLER ZONING REQUEST, BUT I WANTED TO PUT A SMALLER AMOUNT OF HOMES, A LESSER AMOUNT OF HOMES BACKING UP TO THE PERRY LINDA NEIGHBORS. THE QUESTIONS.
REAL QUICK, WHAT WAS THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOT ON THE HOUSE AGAIN, I KNOW YOU PROBABLY SAID IT AND I'M LOOKING FOR IT IN MY EYES ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO SEE ON THE HOUSES THAT WE WOULD BUILD. YES, CORRECT.
I COULD ALSO SEE A YOUNG FAMILY WANTING TO BUILD 30 600FT².
YOU KNOW, I THINK 2100 WOULD BE POSSIBLE.
AND HAVE YOU PLAYED WITH THE CUL DE SAC AT ALL TO, LIKE SQUEEZE DOWN SOME OF THE CONCRETE AND MAYBE GET THAT GREEN SPACE BACK IN THE LOT? I KNOW. I KNOW THAT DOWN THERE TOWARDS THE END, YOU GOT THE 50 FOOT FRONTS OR WHATEVER WE DID.
I THINK WE COULD GET THE SMALLER STREET SECTION.
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BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS BY THE FIRE MARSHAL THAT SO WE MADE IT A FULL STREET SECTION WIDTH.AND SO THAT'S WHY THE STREETS ARE A LITTLE BIT WIDER.
YEAH. SO I'M PROBABLY NOT BEING VERY CLEAR.
I'M THINKING LIKE GETTING RID OF THE MIDDLE GREEN SPACE AND PUTTING THAT GREEN SPACE BACK ON THE LOTS AND DO A SINGLE LANE UP IN THERE WITH A REGULAR CUL DE SAC KIND OF IS WHAT I WAS GOING TOWARDS.
WE'VE HAD A WE'VE HAD A CUT THROUGH PLAN AND WE'VE PLAYED WITH IT ALL DIFFERENT SORTS OF WAYS AND WE'VE KIND OF LANDED ON THIS BEING OUR OUR FAVORITE IS WHAT WE'RE BRINGING WITH AND THE HIGHEST, THE HIGHEST AND BEST FOR, FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO WE'VE DRAWN IT ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND I'VE KIND OF MENTALLY CHECKED OUT ON THE OTHER ONES BECAUSE WE DO BELIEVE THIS IS THE BEST.
I BELIEVE IT'S THE BEST AS WELL.
FURTHER QUESTIONS. NO OTHER QUESTION.
PANSY'S FINISHED. Y'ALL ARE THROUGH.
YES, SIR. QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.
THE RENDERING THAT YOU HAVE HERE IS ESTHETICALLY THAT PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU THINK THE HOUSES WILL LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, THAT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF THE SAME BUILDING MATERIALS.
BUT I KNOW YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT USING A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARIETY, SO THE VARIETY I DIDN'T GET TO TALK TO THE ARCHITECTS A LOT ON COLORATION AND I KEEP TELLING THEM IN GRAPEVINE, WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRADITIONAL.
MY MY ARCHITECTS WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE EDGY ON THE COLORS.
BUT I'LL BE HONEST, I, I, I LIKE THE VARIATION.
WE'LL BE BUILDING ALL, ALL OF THESE HOMES.
AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE PURELY OFF OF THE HOMEOWNER AND THE CLIENT THAT IS DESIGNING IT.
SO WE MIGHT HAVE SOME WHITE AUSTIN STONE MIXED WITH SOME RED BRICK AND WHITE WINDOWS.
AND THEN WE MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS MAYBE INTO THAT GRAY MOTIF AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE NOT LIMITING THE COLORS TO THIS.
BUT THIS, THIS IS NOT ACCURATE ON COLORS 100%.
I CAN SEE SOMEBODY BUILDING A HOUSE SIMILAR TO THIS, BUT WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF VARIATION FROM THE ARTICULATION OF THE HOMES TO WITH THE PAD SIZES AND FROM COLORS AND EXTERIOR MATERIALS THAT WE'RE USING.
WITH 19 HOMES, THERE WON'T BE ONE ONE HOUSE THAT'S THE SAME AS THE OTHER IN THIS WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S GOOD. WELL, I LIKE THE GREEN SPACE THAT LOOKS GOOD.
AND BACK TO JUST TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE WINDOWS FACING THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
YES. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A CONCERN WE GET ALL OVER TOWN, NOT JUST HERE.
SO IN YOUR DESIGN PROCESS, THE FOLKS THAT COME IN AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE ONE OF YOUR HOMES, THEY WILL KNOW THAT THE WINDOW THERE WILL NOT BE WINDOWS ON THE BACK FACING THE NEIGHBORS.
SO THAT CONCERN WILL BE ALLEVIATED.
NOW, ON THE OTHER PARTS, THAT WON'T MATTER AS MUCH, BUT YOU WILL BE ASSURING THE NEIGHBORS THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY LOOKING DOWN IN THEIR HOUSE IN THE SECOND STORY WINDOW.
YES, MA'AM. ON ONE THROUGH TEN.
AND IT WAS IN STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
IT JUST WASN'T IN MIND. THERE WAS SOME REAR ELEVATION CONCEPTS THAT WENT KIND OF FAST.
BUT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN PLANNING TO OMIT THE WINDOWS.
BACKING UP TO PARRA LINDA ON THE ON ANY SECOND FLOOR HOUSES.
WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE? YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED ABOUT A PRETTY WIDE RANGE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO FROM A ONE STORY ABOUT 2100 UP TO A TWO STORY THAT GETS UP 3600 OR SO MORE, WHAT KIND OF BALANCE OR WHAT KIND OF MIX WOULD YOU REALLY ANTICIPATE? I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO KIND OF BUILD WHATEVER PEOPLE WANT, BUT JUST GIVEN THE MARKETPLACE, YOU KNOW, YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE MARKETPLACE, THE AREA.
SURE. WHAT DO YOU THINK WE END UP WITH IN TERMS OF A MIX OF PROPERTIES HERE? WITH WITH MODERN DESIGNS.
AND THIS IS PART OF ONE OF THE DEVIATIONS IS 1400 SQUARE FEET DOWNSTAIRS.
I CAN I CAN SQUEEZE SOME THINGS IN.
BUT PEOPLE WANT BIGGER SPACES AND THEY WANT A LARGE PANTRY, A WALK IN PANTRY.
THEY WANT A LARGE UTILITY ROOM.
AND I, I THINK I THINK ON AVERAGE THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT 2100 SQUARE FOOT DOWN.
I THINK WE WILL MAX OUT OUR BOTTOM FLOOR.
KIND OF LIKE A IN A NOT AN APARTMENT, BUT THEIR OWN SPACE UPSTAIRS.
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SO I CAN SEE THAT HOME BEING I CAN SEE THAT BEING A 2400 SQUARE FOOT HOME.BUT ON AVERAGE, I THINK I THINK 28 TO 3200FT² IS A IS A FAIR 400 SQUARE FOOT RANGE OF WHAT THE AVERAGE WILL BE WHEN WHEN A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THIS WOULD BE COMPLETELY DONE IS IS BETTER THAN A GUESS.
BUT I WOULD KIND OF BE CONFIDENT TELLING YOU THAT.
MISTER MAX, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE AND WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO STIPULATE THAT TO THAT AS PART OF THE ZONING CASE IF IT WERE TO PASS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY.
SO THAT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT ISSUE.
AND YOU MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HOUSE STYLE.
ARE ANY OF THESE FORGIVE ME FOR HAVING TO ASK, BUT I'VE GOT TO WILL THESE LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THE HOUSE DESIGNS OVER IN TILLERY COMMONS? NO, MA'AM. OKAY.
THANK YOU. AND I'M GLAD YOUR ARCHITECT IS HERE TO HEAR THAT WE ARE A VERY TRADITIONAL CITY HERE.
AND SO THE COLORS AND THE STYLES WE LOOK FAVORABLY ON, ON THOSE WITH A GOOD DEAL OF INTENSITY.
I PRESUME YOU'RE GOING TO TELL US THAT WE WON'T BE COLORS MUCH LIKE MEOW WOLF.
WE DO MAINTAIN OUR ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL IN HOUSE UNTIL THE LAST HOME IS BUILT.
OKAY. SO WE MAINTAIN ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL 100% OF THE TIME UNTIL..
EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE A PURCHASER SITTING ACROSS THE TABLE FROM YOU.
YES, MA'AM. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.
OKAY. THE YOU'RE ASKING FOR A LOT OF EXCEPTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN THIS MANY IN A LONG TIME.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YOU HAVE REQUESTED 6 OR 7.
SO CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US WHY YOU FEEL THAT THIS PROPERTY IS BETTER SUITED FOR OUR FIVE ZERO WHEN IT IS A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT IS FLAT AND YOU COULD BUILD OUR SEVEN FIVE HOMES AS A MATTER OF RIGHT AND MEET ALL THE ELEMENTS OF THAT ORDINANCE.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO US, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.
ON THIS ARE FIVE ZONING REQUEST WITH THE DEVIATIONS IT HAS TO BE IN THE CHART PER THE ORDINANCE.
I DO NOT WANT TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE.
I FEEL LIKE I COULD WHITTLE THAT DOWN TO ABOUT FOUR.
BUT LET'S SAY THERE'S SIX BECAUSE THE SIDE SETBACKS ARE RELATED TO THE 12 AND THE TEN.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT FOUR OF THEM.
SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR FRONT, YOUR REAR, YOUR SIDE SETBACK AND THEN THE 92FT ON THE FRONT.
THIS TO ME FITS TRANSITIONAL ZONING.
WE'VE GOT OUR SEVEN FIVE AND PARRA LINDA, WHICH IS A GREAT COMMUNITY.
WE ARE ADJACENT TO THE FIRE STATION.
WE HAVE A PLAN THAT ALLOWS FOR FAMILIES.
WE HAVE A PLAN THAT ALLOWS FOR EMPTY NESTERS.
BUT PEOPLE THAT HAVE OTHER THINGS TO TO WORRY THEMSELVES ABOUT, WHETHER IT BE HEALTH CONCERNS, WHETHER IT BE CHILDREN AND A PLETHORA OF ACTIVITIES, WHETHER IT BE A TRAVEL SCHEDULE, ALL SORTS OF VARIOUS REASONS.
FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S EAST OF THIS THAT WE DID.
WE STARTED ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO WHERE KIND OF A PROOF OF CONCEPT WAS ORIGINATED WITH SIMILAR SIMILAR FEATURES FROM SETBACKS.
ARCHITECTURALLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT I WISH THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN INSTEAD OF 44, I WISH THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN 144 BECAUSE THERE IS SO MANY PEOPLE WANTING THAT R5, THAT R5 ZONING, AND I THINK GRAPEVINE IS AHEAD OF THE CURVE AND SEEING THE NEED FOR KIND OF A CONSERVATIVE LIFESTYLE WHERE YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE A HUGE YARD, REALLY.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE NICER.
IT'S JUST TO ME A NICER FINISHED PRODUCT, ESPECIALLY AS THIS THING AGES DOWN THE ROAD.
THESE HOMES, THESE HOMES, THE PRICES OF THESE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE MAINTAINED FOR A LONG TIME.
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AND WE WE TAKE CARE OF THE HOA.AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M REQUESTING THE R5 IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO BUILD A QUALITY PRODUCT AND YOU HAVE TO BUILD A QUALITY PRODUCT THAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND YOU'RE NOT SOME OUT OF TOWN PERSON COMING IN AND BUILDING HERE.
SO I THINK THAT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE PROUD OF WHAT YOU DO AND THAT SHOWS.
I'M SORRY, WHAT DID I SAY? YOU SAID TOM. OH, I APOLOGIZE.
WHAT WOULD BE YOUR PLANS FOR THAT FENCING? SO I'VE SPOKE.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET A VIEW OF IT SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT.
I THINK THAT ONE JUST SHOWS IT RIGHT THERE.
KIND OF. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH SOME NEIGHBORS AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS LEAVE THE FENCE AS IS.
OBVIOUSLY, IF IT'S FALLING APART IN A SECTION OR IF IT NEEDS REPAIR.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO SELL HOMES WITH THAT FENCE IN OUR BACKYARD, TOO.
SO WE'D LIKE TO LEAVE THINGS AS IS IN THE LOCATIONS OF THEM.
BUT THE ONE THING ABOUT THAT FENCE, IT MAY NOT BE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL FENCE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN IMPROVE THE ESTHETIC OF IT AND IT CERTAINLY IS STURDY AND IT WILL PROVIDE A NICE BUFFER BETWEEN US AND PARRA LINDA, IT'S I MEAN, IT'S A COMMERCIAL CONCRETE FORMED FENCE, SO IT'S STRONGER THAN ANY WOOD FENCE THAT WE COULD REPLACE IT WITH.
AND IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT WE WOULD WANT TO LEAVE IT..
AND MAKE IT PERFECT, MAKE IT LOOK NICER THAN IT DOES RIGHT NOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. APPARENTLY NOT.
YES, SIR. DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. I HAVE SEVERAL.
DEBBIE AND MIKE MEEK, 1025 BROWNSTONE.
YOU DON'T. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS DEBBIE MEEK, 1025 BROWNSTONE DRIVE, AND I WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT TONIGHT.
I THINK WE'VE SEEN FROM WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED HERE THE QUALITY AND THE PREPARATION THAT HAS BEEN PUT, THE THOUGHT AND EVERYTHING INTO THIS TO MAKE THIS A BEAUTIFUL ADDITION TO OUR GRAPEVINE COMMUNITY.
MAYKUS HOMES HAS HAD A LONG HISTORY HERE IN GRAPEVINE AND AS WE KNOW, THEY DO QUALITY, EVERYTHING IS JUST QUALITY AND IT'S IT'S DONE VERY, VERY WELL.
AND SO TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE OUR DECISION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
BRANDON DURACK, 891 MEADOW BEND LOOP.
RIGHT. KYLE CROW, 976 MEADOW BEND LOOP.
GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. KYLE CROW FROM 976 MEADOW BEND LOOP, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS SHADY BROOK.
SO MY WIFE AND I MOVED INTO MAYKUS PROPERTY COMING UP ON TWO YEARS AGO AND WE'VE REALLY ENJOYED IT.
AND TO HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF OUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY.
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NEXT, JESSICA SCHREIBER, 976 MEADOW BEND LOOP SOUTH.MICHAEL BRAND, 2002 HARWELL STREET.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MICHAEL BRAND.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED AT 2002 HARWELL STREET SINCE 1992.
MY PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY ACROSS DOVE ROAD FROM THE CURRENT CARROLL ISD ANNEX BUILDING.
IT IS CURRENTLY A SITE WHERE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS TRAIN, AND THE LARGE PARKING LOT IS WHERE PARENTS BRING THEIR KIDS TO LEARN TO RIDE BICYCLES AND WHERE THEIR TEENAGERS LEARN TO DRIVE CARS.
MY OBJECTIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY ARE DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION NOISE, CONSTRUCTION, TRASH AND CONSTRUCTION AND RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC THAT WILL OCCUR IF THIS PROPERTY IS REZONED TO ALLOW THESE CONSTRUCTION OF THESE 19 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THE INCREASED CONSTRUCTION AND RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC TO AND FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY INTERFERE WITH THE SAFE AND TIMELY VEHICLE RESPONSES FROM FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO. THERE ARE TWO SCHOOL BUS STOPS IN THIS AREA ON DOVE ROAD, AND THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC IS LIKELY TO AFFECT THEM AS WELL.
I REMEMBER WHEN THIS LOCATION USED TO BE THE FOOD LION GROCERY STORE, AND SINCE THE PREVAILING WIND IS OUT OF THE SOUTH, MY PROPERTY AND MY NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY WERE CONTINUALLY LITTERED WITH TRASH BLOWN ACROSS THE ROAD AND ONTO OUR PROPERTIES.
AND SINCE FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO IS AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND COMMUNICATIONS FACILITY, THE DEBRIS WHICH COMES FROM THE SITE'S DEVELOPMENT, COULD INTERFERE WITH STATION OPERATION AND COMMUNICATION LINES ARE LIKELY TO BE CUT OR OTHERWISE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED.
THIS OCCURS EVEN DURING THE MOST CAREFUL CONSTRUCTION EFFORTS.
GIVEN THESE CONCERNS, I ASK YOU TO PLEASE DENY THIS ZONING REQUEST.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.
SO MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED IN THE PARRA LINDA NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 35 YEARS.
WE'VE SEEN TREMENDOUS CHANGE IN THAT AREA.
WE'RE A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED HERE.
THAT WOULD BE REALLY DISTURBING.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE REQUESTED THAT THAT BE PUT IN WRITING.
I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING THE EXISTING FENCE.
HE INDICATED THAT HE'S HOPING TO SAVE THAT FENCE PROPERLY, IMPROVE IT.
MY CONCERN WITH THE EXISTING FENCE IS THAT IN THE PROPOSAL THAT HE HAD INDICATED THAT IF THEY NEEDED TO ACCESS THE ELECTRICAL LINES FOR EASEMENT PURPOSES, THAT THEY WOULD TEAR DOWN THE FENCE. THERE WAS NO MENTION OF REBUILDING THE FENCE OR ANY IMPROVEMENTS.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A NUMBER OF PETS IN OUR BACKYARD, AND MY CONCERN WOULD BE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? WHAT TYPE OF NOTICES WOULD WE RECEIVE IN ADVANCE, IF AT ALL? AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY BE NEEDING TO DIG IN OUR BACKYARD TO BUILD THESE HOMES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. THE EASEMENT IS IN OUR BACKYARD CURRENTLY.
APPARENTLY WHEN THEY BUILD THE FOOD LION IT CREATED FLOODING AND SOME NEIGHBOR AREAS I BELIEVE BEHIND WHERE I THINK HOUSES THREE, FOUR, POSSIBLY TWO ARE LOCATED.
I WOULD BE RIGHT BEHIND FIVE AND SIX.
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SO THOSE ARE THE MAIN CONCERNS.IF THEY CAN PUT IN WRITING THAT IF THEY DO NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES THAT REQUIRE MOVING INTO OUR LAWN FOR WHATEVER REASON, FOR TO ACCESS ELECTRICAL LINES OR WHATEVER, THAT OUR HOUSES BE RESTORED, THAT IT BE IN WRITING, THAT THE HOUSES WILL BE RESTORED.
AND IF THEY HAVE TO TEAR DOWN THE FENCE FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT THEY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REBUILDING THE FENCE OF EQUAL VALUE. OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
ROGER MAYHEW, 3034 PANHANDLE DRIVE.
ROGER MAYHEW AT 3034 PANHANDLE DRIVE.
HOWEVER, I AGREE WITH MY NEIGHBOR THAT JUST SPOKE THAT THE FENCE IS A MAJOR THING, THAT WE ALL ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE THE EASEMENT THAT THEY HAD FROM LEFT TO RIGHT COMING OFF OF KIMBALL WAS AT LEAST A GOOD 4 OR 5 YARDS FOR THE HEAD TRUCKS.
SO WE WERE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT FENCE AND IT IS FALLING DOWN IN SOME PLACES.
SO WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE GOING TO REBUILD IT OR FIX IT UP WHAT THEY COULD.
ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO ASK THE STAFF THAT'S BEEN A QUESTION.
IS THERE AN EASEMENT BACK THERE THAT'S NOT A UTILITY EASEMENT? THERE IS, SUPPOSEDLY.
WELL, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE'RE THIEVES.
IN THE BEGINNING OF THE BEGINNING.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ABRAHAM.
WHEN THEY FIRST BUILT BUILT THAT AREA COMING IN OFF OF KIMBALL, YOU COULD DRIVE A TRUCK, A GOOD SIZE TRUCK ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT FENCE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO DOVE.
WELL, THEY KIND OF SLACKED OFF ON DOING WORK FOR OUR ELECTRIC AND DIFFERENT THINGS, SO EVERYBODY MADE THEIR YARDS A LITTLE LONGER.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE GOT TO A POINT WHERE NOW ALL I'VE GOT IS TREES, BUT SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE POOLS AND AND BIG BUILDINGS THAT THEY BUILT BACK THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BITE THE BULLET.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IT WOULD HELP US IF WE COULD KEEP IT LIKE IT IS NOW IN OUR YARDS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED A REALLY GOOD SURVEYOR.
I'D LIKE TO ASK THE STAFF THIS.
THIS PROJECT DOESN'T AFFECT THAT EASEMENT AT ALL, DOES IT? IT'S A NIGHTMARE.
CAN YOU TELL WHERE THE FENCE IS? IS IT IN THE EASEMENT OR IS IT ON THE PROPERTY EASEMENT? IT'S IN THE EASEMENT. IT'S AMUSEMENT, YES.
SO IS THE FIVE FOOT PART OF THEIR LOTS THAT'S IN THAT EASEMENT OR IS THAT FIVE FEET PAST IT? IT'S WITHIN THEIR LOTS.
SO YOU THINK THE FENCE IS IN THE.
THE EXISTING FENCE? I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE THAT ON THE SURVEY.
I DON'T KNOW. DO YOU HAVE THAT ON YOUR PROPERTY? THEY SHOW THE EXISTING FENCE ON THIS ONE.
WELL, IT DEPENDS WHERE. THAT'S MY QUESTION.
THIS IS OUR LOT. IT IS WITHIN OUR.
I HAVE YOU HAD THE PROPERTY YOUR TRACK SURVEYED YET? FENCE RIGHT THERE. OKAY.
BUT THERE IS A UTILITY EASEMENT THAT ALSO RUNS ALONG THERE.
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IT IS THE EASEMENT IN THE MAGUS DEVELOPMENT REQUEST, OR IS THE EASEMENT ACTUALLY IN? THERE'S AN EXISTING EASEMENT ON PARALLEL AND SO IT'S ON PARALLEL TO THE PROPERTY? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.THANK YOU. AND THE FENCE IS THE PROPERTY OF THE PARALLEL TO HOMEOWNERS AND NOT MR. MARCUS'S PROPERTY.
THAT WILL HAVE TO BE. WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET.
IT HAS BEEN SURVEYED AND THE FENCE IN VARIOUS SPOTS.
IT'S NOT EVEN IT'S NOT A PROPORTIONATE TWO FEET ON US THE WHOLE WAY.
BUT THE FENCE IS THE FENCE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE MASONRY PANELED FENCE IS ON THE OUR OUR PROPERTY.
OKAY. AND SO IDEALLY, LEAVING IT AS IS NOT DISTURBING THE SHEDS, THE TREES THAT MR. ROGER HAD HAD MENTIONED WOULD BE WOULD BE OUR DESIRE UNLESS THERE'S A FENCE THAT'S COLLAPSING OR SOMETHING.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF I TALKED TO MRS. CRANE'S HUSBAND YESTERDAY, BUT SHE IS CORRECT THAT THERE IS A TIE IN FOR OUR STORMWATER IN BETWEEN HER LOT AND THE ADJACENT LOT.
SO I THINK THAT'S MRS. CRANE'S HUSBAND. AND I EXPLAINED TO HIM IF WE DID ANY WORK, ANY WORK THAT WE HAD TO GO INTO THEIR BACKYARD, THAT WE WOULD REPLACE IT BETTER THAN BETTER THAN IT IS CURRENTLY. AND THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL TIE IN WITH SOME STORMWATER.
BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LEAVE ALL THAT AS IS AND ALONE.
SO YOU WON'T NEED ANY OF THEIR EASEMENT AREA FOR THE THE EASEMENT FOR YOUR UTILITIES.
YOU WON'T NEED TO ENTER THEIR SIDE.
WELL, THE UTILITIES, YOU CAN'T PASS FROM THERE.
THE UTILITIES TO SERVE THESE PROPOSED LOTS BE LAID WITHIN THE EASEMENT ON THESE LOTS, OR WILL BE THEY SERVED FROM AN EASEMENT ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTY? NO, THERE WILL BE IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR A DEVIATION IN THE SETBACK.
IS THE FIVE FEET INCLUDED IN THAT OR IS IT THE FIVE FEET? I'M GOING TO HAVE MY CIVIL ENGINEER COME UP HERE AND ADDRESS THIS.
I THINK HE'S THE CIVIL ENGINEER.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL SEE WHAT HE HAS.
NO, THE IN ABOUT 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT DRAINAGE BECAUSE I'M ON PANHANDLE.
AND WHEN WE HAD OUR FLOOD, IT WAS UP TO HERE ON ME ON THE STREET.
AND SO THE QUESTION CAME UP ABOUT DRAINAGE.
WE HAD A DRAIN, A FOUR SQUARE DRAIN DITCH COMING BETWEEN MY HOUSE AND HOUSE NUMBER FIVE AND HOUSE NUMBER FOUR.
AND THE QUESTION WAS, IF THEY'RE GOING TO PUT AN EIGHT FOOT CULVERT DOWN THROUGH THE HOUSES.
SO I DON'T THINK YOU'LL HAVE A DRAINAGE OF ANY KIND OF FLOODING IN THOSE HOUSES.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR.
YOU DON'T GO TOO FAR IN CASE WE NEED YOU AGAIN.
IN REGARD TO THE REAR YARDS, OUR SIDE.
THE CURRENT MASONRY FENCE, IT'S BEEN SURVEYED.
OKAY. IT VARIES, BUT IT'S ON US.
BUT THE INTENT IS IS NOT TO GET ON THEIR SIDE.
I THINK WITH STORM DRAIN, I REALLY DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET OVER THERE.
AND WITH SEWER, I REALLY DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET OVER THERE EITHER.
ALL OF OUR UTILITIES ARE GOING TO BE ON OUR SIDE.
SO ALL OF OUR WATER WILL BE CONTAINED.
OKAY. THIS IS TO YOU, SIR, AND TO MR. MISTER MAYKUS.
AND SO OUR PROCEDURES HERE IN GRAPEVINE, WHENEVER WE HAVE A CITY PROJECT AND THIS WOULD EXTEND TO YOU, I THINK AS WELL, WHEN WE HAVE TO DO SOME WORK ON A RESIDENT'S PROPERTY, WE NOTIFY THEM AHEAD OF TIME.
DO YOU COMMIT THAT YOU WILL ADHERE TO THAT SAME PROCESS? YES, MA'AM, ABSOLUTELY.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND YOU TOO, SIR.
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ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. I HAVE ONE UP MORE.LAURA DEVENDORF, 2826, LONGHORN TRAIL.
GOOD EVENING. I HAVE LIVED AT MY ADDRESS FOR 1986.
RAISED MY BOYS THERE AND I'M RAISING A GRANDCHILD THERE.
AND I SAY FOOD LION IS A NIGHTMARE.
AND YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF IT, BUT PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY ON TOP OF THE BUILDING, GOING INSIDE THE BUILDING AND DOING ALL KINDS OF DESTRUCTIVE THINGS, WHICH IS VERY NERVE WRACKING WITH CARS RACING AROUND POLES IN A PARKING LOT.
SO I'M SAYING THAT RESIDENTIAL.
I'M SORRY. THEIR MEAT WAS BAD AND IT PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT'S GONE AND IT'S BEEN A NIGHTMARE.
I HAVE SOME BULBS AND TREES NOW THAT I'VE PLANTED BECAUSE I LOST TREES THAT WERE HUMONGOUS THROUGH A STORM IN 2017 THAT TOOK THEM DOWN RIGHT TOWARD MY HOUSE.
BUT I PLANTED OAKS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
I TOOK MY FENCE DOWN BECAUSE IT WAS A NIGHTMARE.
IT WAS RAGGED WEEDS GROWING TALLER THAN THE THE THE CONCRETE FENCE JOHNSON GRASS.
SO I TOOK IT DOWN ONLY FOR THOSE REASONS.
BUT I'VE GOT THINGS IN THERE THAT SOME OF THEM ARE 100 YEAR OLD BULBS THAT WERE MY FAMILY.
AND SO IF THAT HAS TO HAPPEN, IF I WERE TO DIG THEM UP NOW, I'D LOSE EVERY ONE OF THEM.
AND THOSE ARE SWEET MEMORIES FOR ME.
I'M HERE TONIGHT, MY HUSBAND IS SUFFERING FROM STAGE FOUR CANCER AND TERMINAL, AND I CAME HERE BECAUSE A LOT OF MY HOMEOWNERS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE VERY SCARED OF ALL OF THIS.
IT'S YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T GET ANY KIND OF NOTICE FROM YOU GUYS.
AND I'M SAYING THIS SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO SOMEONE ELSE.
BUT ONE LITTLE SIGN THAT'S NO BIGGER THAN A HANDICAPPED PARKING SIGN TO PUT OUT THERE ON DOVE ROAD, WHEN YOU HAVE TO WATCH KIDS AND WHATEVER, YOU CAN'T SEE THAT ALL OF THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. SO WE DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU SENT US A NOTICE IN THE MAIL, BUT I DIDN'T GET MINE TILL THE 12TH.
AND SO IT WAS REALLY KIND OF NERVE WRACKING.
I WORKED AT DFW AIRPORT FOR TEN YEARS.
I SOLD THIS TOWN TO EVERY COMPANY, MAJOR CORPORATION THAT WAS COMING IN HERE.
IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO RAISE KIDS.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL TONIGHT.
LIKE I SAID, I'M ALL ABOUT HOUSES.
WE GOT A RED HEADED WOODPECKER THAT'S LIVING IN A TREE THAT GOT TORN DOWN BY THE STORM.
BUT IT'S IT'S PART OF OUR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
BUT THE FENCE WAS THE BIGGEST CONCERN AND I'M GLAD SOMEBODY BROUGHT THAT UP.
THEY'RE NOT USING THEIR THEIR PATHS THAT THEY HAVE.
AND THE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO MEAN PEOPLE HAVE TO STOP, YOU KNOW, TO LET THEM OUT.
AND IF THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ENTRANCE ON THAT SIDE, WE MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK AT A POSSIBILITY OF A RED LIGHT INSTEAD OF THAT FOUR WAY STOP SIGN UP THERE BECAUSE IT COULD BE DANGEROUS.
AND THAT'S KIMBALL AND, YOU KNOW DOVE BUT THAT'S ALL THE INPUT I THINK I HAVE.
UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE WANTED ME TO MENTION ANYTHING ELSE.
I THANK YOU ALL. AND YOU'RE DOING GREAT WORK FOR OUR CITY.
ANYONE ELSE? SOME CORRESPONDENCE? YES, SIR. THERE ARE 17 LETTERS IN SUPPORT AND EIGHT LETTERS IN PROTEST IN FRONT OF YOU.
YOU CAN BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY, A SINGLE STORY.
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NEARLY ALL HOUSES BUILT IN GRAPEVINE NOW ARE ARE TWO STORY FOR SOME REASON.BUT THAT'S NOT BEFORE THE COUNCIL TONIGHT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY JURISDICTION.
SO THE ISSUE IS WHETHER SINGLE FAMILY IS A SUITABLE USE THERE.
AND THEY ARE SOME WAIVERS REQUESTED THAT ARE MATERIAL THAT THE COUNCIL PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION HAVE CONSIDERATION OF. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE ELEVATION OF THE HOUSE OR WHETHER IT'S 1 OR 2 STORIES IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DECIDE. ALL RIGHT.
DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER? NO, MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYBODY'S PARTICIPATION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, A MOTION IS AWAITING A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE COMMISSION CLOSED A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.
MOVE TO CLOSE SECOND IN FAVOR.
ALL OPPOSED. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN ON HISTORIC LANDMARK SUBDIVISION HL 23-01, WHICH IS AT 404 EAST FRANKLIN STREET. ERICA.
THIS REQUEST FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK SUB DISTRICT DESIGNATION IS FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 404 EAST FRANKLIN STREET AND PRESENTLY ZONED R SEVEN AND ONE HALF SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. THE OWNERS, DAVID AND GLORIA EUBANK, HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPERTY AND ALSO THE HISTORIC LANDMARK SUB DISTRICT DESIGNATION THAT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AT THEIR MEETING ON JULY 28TH, 2023.
THIS PROPERTY, AS MENTIONED, IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND IT IS IN A MINIMAL TRADITIONAL STYLE.
AND IT WAS BUILT BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 1947 AND 48 BY L.G.
CHASTEEN. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
MR. DAVID CLAMPIN, OUR CITY'S TOWNSHIP RESTORATION COORDINATOR AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION MANAGER, IS HERE THIS EVENING AND ANSWER TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL MAY HAVE TO THE REQUEST.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CLINTON? DAVID? TWO QUESTIONS HERE.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? NO, YOUR HONOR. DO WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CLOSE? ALL IN FAVOR? YOU SHOULD HAVE COME UP TO THE CLOSED COMMISSION.
VOTED TO CLOSE A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL, MOVE TO CLOSE SECOND.
MOTION CARRIES. THAT COMPLETES THE JOINT PUBLIC HEARINGS BETWEEN THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL.
THE COMMISSION WILL NOW, AS I SAID EARLIER, MOVE TO THE CONFERENCE ROOM, TO THE RIGHT.
THAT WILL BE A PUBLIC MEETING.
THE COUNCIL WILL REMAIN IN SESSION HERE.
AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH CITIZEN COMMENTS.
EXPLODED DURING THE WAR AND IT WAS A RED PEN, SO.
YEAH. SHE HAS TO DO THE SECOND READING FOR PEACH STREET, AND THEN SHE'LL BE JOINING US.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL OUR PORTION OF THE MEETING TO ORDER CONSIDER OUR BUSINESS.
AND I'M ASSUMING WE HAVE NO ONE SCHEDULED TO SPEAK.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ALLOWED. IT'S OKAY.
YEAH. OKAY. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING YOU.
I KNOW I HAVE A SIGN, BUT I DIDN'T RAISE.
SORRY. MAYBE THEY'RE STOPPING.
OKAY. I FIGURED OUT THAT COMING IN OR NOT? WE ALREADY CONSIDERED OUR ITEM SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE AND TEN AND TABLED THOSE.
SO UNLESS WE THINK THERE'S A NEED TO DO IT AGAIN, WE'LL GO TO THAT EFFORT.
DOES NOT DO WE NOT HAVE TO DO.
TERRIBLE OR NOT BECAUSE I HAVE THEM WRITTEN OUT.
SO I WONDERED IF YOU COULD PLEASE JUST READ IT.
SO I'M GOING TO CONSIDER THEN ITEM EIGHT.
OR IS IT EIGHT AND NINE AND TEN FOR NINE AND TEN? SO WHY WOULD WE NEED A FLAT? WELL, WE HAVE THIS TABLE.
WE THE REQUEST IS TO TABLE IT, WHICH IT ALREADY WASN'T.
IT WAS FOR OKAY HILL. ABOVE ALL, IT WAS BECAUSE ALL OF THAT WAS PART OF ITS PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE.
IF YOU WANT TO JUST SAY YOU AGREE WITH IT, GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK.
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WELL, LET'S LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY FOR ITEM SEVEN THROUGH TEN WERE TABLED DURING THE OPEN SESSION AND WE WANT TO RECONFIRM THAT.SO THEY NEED A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM SEVEN THROUGH TEN, MOTION TO TABLE, ITEM 7 TO 10.
SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR? NOT OPPOSED. SO ITEM 11, THE ZONING APPLICATION, AC
[11. Zoning Change Application Z23-05 (Dove Station) – Consider the application and make a recommendation to City Council. ]
2305 BUS STATION.AND THAT'S JUST STRICTLY JUST.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO. FIRST ONE.
I THINK IT HAS A GOOD USE AS RESIDENTIAL VERSUS WHAT IT IS NOW.
SO I THINK WE DID A GOOD JOB OF.
APPEASING THE NEIGHBORS AND MAKING THINGS WORK.
FUTURE. AND MOST OF THE PROPERTY IS.
WHICH SHAPE AND THE SIZE AND EVERYTHING THERE IS REALLY NOT OPENED A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS.
SO I CERTAINLY THINK THAT THE R5 ZERO IS PROBABLY AN APPROPRIATE ZONING THERE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE Z 20 3-05 DEVASTATION SECOND.
ALL THE FAVOR. NOT OPPOSED TO SET OUT.
[12. Planned Development PD23-03 (Dove Station) – Consider the application and make a recommendation to City Council. ]
NOW WE'LL CONSIDER THE 2303.TO BE HONEST. THE THING THAT MAKES IT SOMEWHAT PALATABLE IS THAT IT THE LOTS ARE LARGER FOR THE BEST CASE THAN A LOT OF OUR FIVE ZONE AREAS ARE, AND WHICH, DESPITE THE FACT I ALWAYS HATE THESE PDS BECAUSE WE SEEM TO GIVE A LOT AND GET LITTLE BACK, BUT I'M NOT SURE THIS IS THE CASE ON ALL POINTS HERE.
I DO THINK THAT IF WE LOOK AT APPROVING THE FULL THING HERE, INCLUDING THE PD, THAT WE NEED TO GET SOME OTHER THINGS INCLUDED IN THERE. IN REGARDS TO THE SECOND STORY STRUCTURES WITH NO WINDOWS AND THE REAR YARDS ON LOTS ONE THROUGH TEN.
I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS WHAT WE WANT TO PUT IN, IF ANYTHING, REGARDING THAT WALL THAT ABUTS THE PARRA LINDA DEVELOPMENT. BECAUSE IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE IN THEY NEED NO REAR YARD FENCING IS NOT REQUIRED ANYWHERE.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE DO AND WE USUALLY WANT TO SEE HAPPEN.
SO I GUESS THOSE ARE THE THINGS I THINK WE THAT ARE MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
WE COULD INCLUDE SOME SORT OF WORDING THAT THEY MUST MAINTAIN A MASONRY OR MASONRY WALL BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S CURRENTLY CONCRETE THAT THE MASONS, YOU KNOW, THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CHANGE IT TO CHANGE IT.
AND IF YOU WANTED ONE, THAT'S GOING TO LAST IN MOST CASES, THAT'S ABOUT AS GOOD AS YOU'RE GOING TO GET BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT FOR COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S BUILT. SO, I MEAN, THERE'S A WAY TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THE GOOD WALL AND RECONSTRUCT THE SECTIONS THAT ARE BROKEN AND DAMAGED OR MISSING AND THEN MAINTAIN THAT.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE THING TO TRY TO DO.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WANT TO PUT IT IN WORDING TO THEY HAVE TO DO IT THAT WAY.
SO IT'S A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
WHAT IS REQUIRED A WOODEN FENCE WOULD BE ALL BECAUSE IT'S RESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.
YEAH, BUT THAT'S THE SAME FOR PARALYMPIC.
SO YEAH. SO THEY COULD TAKE THAT DOWN AND JUST PUT A WOOD FENCE.
WELL THEY COULD BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THEIR PROPERTY.
WELL NO, NO THEY COULD IF WE DIDN'T, IF WE DIDN'T REQUIRE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO, SO MY UNDERSTANDING THE WAY IT ORIGINALLY WAS IS THERE IS A FOOD LION WALL AND THEN LINDA HAD FENCES AND THE EASEMENT AREA.
THIS WALL, THIS WALL IS OFFSET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE.
IT'S INSIDE THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THAT AND THEY'VE TAKEN THEY'VE MOVED THEIR STUFF INTO THAT AREA.
WHEN THE LADY, THE LAST LADY WAS TALKING ABOUT TAKING DOWN HER FENCE AND HAVING THE BULBS, SEE, WELL, THEY MIGHT HAVE HAD BECAUSE THEY HAVE A FIVE FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT ON THEIR PURCHASE. SO THEIR FENCES MIGHT HAVE BEEN LIKE BEEN LEFT OUT.
THE FIVE FOOT EASEMENT ON THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
[01:20:03]
WELL, IT'S ALSO LIKE THEY TOLD US THAT FENCE ISN'T EXACTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT TEN FOOT EASEMENT ALL THE WAY DOWN EITHER.SO BUT THE KEY WOULD BE IF ALL THE FENCE IS ON THE MAKERS PROPERTY IS AND THEY'RE WILLING TO MAINTAIN THAT AND FIX THAT UP OR THAT FENCE IS MAINTAINED AND MAINTAINED AS PART OF THEIR HOA.
HOA. SO THAT'S THE BEST THING FOR BOTH BOTH DEVELOPMENTS, IN MY OPINION.
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEND TO BE THEY COULD EVEN ADD IT TO MAKE IT.
SO HOW WE WORD IT TO SAY THEY HAVE TO MIND YOU ABOUT IT ALL MUST BE MAINTAINED.
IS IT SIMILAR IN STYLE OR INSTRUCTION AND STYLE OF THE EXISTING? I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO WORD IS MASONRY ENOUGH? I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IT'S REALLY MORE THAN MASONRY.
REALLY. LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S BETTER THAN MASONRY, SO I DON'T KNOW.
BUT WOULD MASONRY BE SUFFICIENT? THIS THIS IS GOING TO LAST BETTER THAN IT'S GOT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT.
IT COULD BE PART OF ONE LOT, MAYBE ALL GREAT.
BUT THIS PART OF IT, IT'S ALL TORN DOWN, RIGHT? YEAH. SO YOU WANT IT TO BE CONSISTENT JUST BECAUSE TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT ALBERT IS JUST HOW WE NEED TO WORK THIS.
OH, I'M NOT EVEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE FENCE.
I'M JUST MORE CONCERNED ABOUT BEING SETTING A PRECEDENT TO JUST BLOWING UP THE ZONE REQUIREMENTS.
LOOK AT THE OTHER ONE. IT'S GOT TWO MORE ACRES AND THEY ONLY HAVE 21 PLOTS ON IT, TWO LESS ACRES.
I'M GOING TO SQUEEZE 19 LOTS ON IT.
I'M SAYING I MEAN, IT'S IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SET IS THAT THIS DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.
YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH DO WHAT YOU WANT.
WELL, ANYTIME. THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.
WHEN YOU OPENED UP THAT PD, YOU GIVE EVERYBODY THE OPTION TO ASK FOR ALL THOSE THINGS.
IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME, I WANT TO ASK EASON, YOU HAD MENTIONED OUT THERE THERE ARE SOME OF THESE DEVIATIONS YOU MAY NOT NEED OR MAY BE ABLE TO DO WITHOUT.
TWO OF THEM ARE ONE AND THE SAME, RIGHT.
I JUST I WAS ALWAYS SAYING, CHAIRMAN OLIVER, THAT STAFF DID EXACTLY RIGHT.
BUT A LOT OF THEM JUST KIND OF REPEATING KIND OF THE SAME THING.
SO WHEN I CAME IN HERE AND ACTUALLY UNTIL TODAY, I THOUGHT I WAS ASKING FOR THREE DEVIATIONS AND I COMBINE MY TWO SIDES AS ONE OF THOSE.
AND SO LET'S SAY FOUR AND THEN THE 92 FOOT, WHICH IS ACCURATE.
ARE JUST VERY RELATED TO EACH OTHER.
THE SIDE YARD DEPTH AND THE DISTANCE BETWEEN BUILDING ONE, IT CHANGES THE OTHER.
AND THEN REGARDING THE FENCE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION, THOUGH? YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, THE THE 92FT.
NOT THAT WE COULD STATE THAT THAT IS ONLY ALLOWED ON LOTS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE CUL DE SAC. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
THIS IS EVEN THAT FOR THAT PORTION OF IT.
YEAH. WE COULD, WE COULD STATE THAT.
SO YOU COULD. SO I THINK IF WE STATED THAT IT'S JUST FOR THE THOSE SPECIFIC LOTS IF WE CAN AND OKAY WITH THE REST OF THE ADDITIONS I GET WHICH WHAT WAS IT.
LOT EIGHT, EIGHT, NINE, EIGHT AND 915 AND JUST MIRROR IMAGE ON THE NORTH SIDE.
RIGHT. SO GOING BACK TO THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE FENCE, IT'S THIS IS IT'S A MASONRY, AS WE ALL KNOW.
IT'S IT'S A IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF MATERIAL THAT'S REQUIRED BETWEEN NON RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
YEAH. I MEAN IT'S IT'S SPELLED OUT BUT THIS IS, I WOULD SAY AN ENHANCED TYPE OF MASONRY.
[01:25:01]
THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S BETTER THAN IT REALLY RESIDENTIAL.WELL THE REQUIREMENT BETWEEN NON RESIDENTIAL WHICH WAS THE FOOD LION AND THIS RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WAS A MASONRY WALL, MASONRY FENCE SLASH WALL.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DECIDED TO PUT IN.
OKAY. SO I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT WE'D ASK AS PART OF THE.
THE REQUEST IS THAT THEY WOULD MAINTAIN REPAIR THE MASONRY FENCE ADJACENT TO.
I REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING. MAINTAIN IT IN THE MANNER OF WHICH IT IS.
PREPARE AND MAINTAIN THE MAINTAIN REPAIR WILL REPLACE.
RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN.
DON'T WE THINK THE HOMEOWNER IS GOING TO REQUIRE THAT? THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED FOR ANYONE WANTING TO BUY.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS NICE FENCE IN THEIR BACKYARD.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT STAYS THAT WAY.
BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WANT TO KEEP THE FENCE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE GETTING ANYTHING FOR THAT.
YEAH, THEY COULD. THEY CAN KNOCK THAT PART DOWN AND PUT A WOODEN FENCE.
BUT IF WE STATE THIS REQUIREMENT, THEN THEY CAN'T.
THEN IT HAS TO SAY THEY'VE ASKED TO MAINTAIN IT.
THAT WAS THE REQUEST THE OWNER ASKED TO MAINTAIN, TO KEEP THE FENCE.
SO WE'VE GOT THE FOUR LOTS THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH THE 92 FOOT LOT DEPTH AND THEN ON THE FENCE THAT THEY MAINTAIN, REPAIR OR REPLACE OR WHATEVER WITH THE MASONRY FENCE ADJACENT TO THE PARRA LINDA'S AND THEN THE NO WINDOWS ON THE SECOND STORY WINDOWS ON LOTS ONE THROUGH TEN.
THE SECOND STORY. REAR ON THE.
. THE THIRD WAS NO WINDOWS, SECOND FLOOR ON 1 THRU 10.
NO ON THE REAR. THE REAR ON THE SECOND STORY.
ONE CONTINUOUS REAR OF THE HOUSE.
THE SECOND FLOOR OF THAT, JUST THE REAR OF IT.
AND. I WANT TO ASK BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WHEN WE MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION THAT.
MR. MAYKUS, YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT TO THOSE THOSE THOSE THOSE ISSUES WE'VE DISCUSSED HERE ABOUT NO WINDOWS ON THE SECOND STORY SLOTS, ONE THROUGH TEN ON THE REAR.
I'M GLAD YOU SAID SECOND STORY.
AND ABOUT THE MAINTAINING THE MASONRY FENCE.
OKAY, SO THOSE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
SO WHAT ELSE IS THERE? I LIKE THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT IN THE STREET BECAUSE IT DOES PROVIDE SOME EXTRA PARKING, BECAUSE IF YOU HAD A TRUE IF YOU CHANGED IT TO R5 WITH A WITH JUST A CUL DE SAC, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE EXTRA PARKING, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A MAJOR PARKING, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A PARKING ISSUE BECAUSE HERE YOU BASICALLY HAS TWO STREETS. SO YOU COULD HAVE PEOPLE PARKING ALONG THAT EDGE.
SO IT PROVIDES THAT STREET WIDER.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE 30FT WIDE.
THEY'RE SAFE TO SAY 30FT OF STREET BY MAKING A SINGLE.
SO, WELL, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL SIZE CITY SO YOU COULD MAKE IT WIDER AND STILL CUT DISTRICT SIZE DOWN BY COMBINING UP TWO LANES INSTEAD OF ONE AND HAVE ONE.
AND THEN YOU JUST HAVE A WIDER STREET, 30.
YOU CAN MAKE IT ONE ONE, BUT THAT DOESN'T HELP PARKING LESS BECAUSE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PARK IN FRONT AS MANY CARS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSES BECAUSE IT'S OUR PROPERTY AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DRIVEWAYS.
SO IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW WIDE THE STREET IS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET MORE CARS PARKED THERE.
YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? PARK 70 CARS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE NO MATTER WHAT YOU MEAN.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE LAYOUT IS, YOU CAN PARK CARS ON BOTH SIDES.
OH, YOU CAN'T. YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET BY ONE CAR.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IF YOU PARK ON BOTH SIDES.
[01:30:10]
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACTS OF THE MATTER.IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN TRYING TO CROSS COLLEGE STREET AT LUNCHTIME.
BUT I WOULDN'T ACTUALLY GET BACKED INTO.
I MEAN, IT'S IT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S TYPICAL.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
FIVE. THIS IS ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.
SO THAT MEANS THAT KIMBALL IS GOING TO BE A.
THIS IS A TRICK. SO I'LL BE BUSY WITH THE DISHES HERE OR NOT.
WELL, THIS IS GOING TO ADD TO IT.
YEAH. AND IF YOU PUT IN A COMMERCIAL, USE IT GENERATE MORE TRAFFIC THAN RESIDENTIAL.
SO LET'S TRY TRAFFIC. MORE NOISE.
YOU'D HAVE MORE, MORE TRAFFIC.
THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT DEBRIS AND STUFF, BUT THIS IS PRETTY WELL ENCLOSED WITH NICE FENCES.
IT'S GOING TO BE HARD AND THE FENCE IS GOING TO GO UP FIRST.
THOSE CONCERNS WERE JUST DURING CONSTRUCTION.
CONSTRUCTION IS A PAIN FOR EVERYBODY.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS JUST BLOWING UP THE PD.
THAT'S ALL. I WANT TO SEE A HOUSING DISTRICT HERE TOO, BUT I JUST.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO. THE ONE BEFORE.
THEY COMPLIED WITH EVERYTHING ON IT AND THEN TWO ACRES MORE.
SO I'M JUST THAT'S JUST HARD FOR ME BECAUSE THAT'S ALL MY EXPLANATION IS.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GETTING ANYTHING THERE.
THE SECOND LEVEL WINDOWS, I MEAN, THE NEIGHBORS REALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
THEY WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE AND HAVE A WINDOW LOOKING AT IT.
THEY CAN DO THAT. WE CAN'T STOP THEM FROM DOING IT.
WELL, WE CAN IF THEY AGREE TO THAT.
IF THE DEVELOPER AGREES TO THAT, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
WE CAN'T STOP BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING.
SEE. WELL, THAT'S THE THING I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING.
THE REAL NEGATIVE PART IS COMING FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS OF PERRY.
LINDA WERE PRETTY MUCH RELATED TO THE SECOND STORY, WINDOWS AND THE WALL.
BUT THE DRAINAGE HAS BEEN ADDRESSED, SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE ALL THE PD STUFF EITHER.
BECAUSE IT REALLY PUTS US IN AWKWARD SITUATIONS.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE.
RIGHT. THIS IS WHERE IF YOU SEE A LITTLE PLOT OF LAND, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO MAXIMIZE IT.
I WOULD, TOO. ANYTIME WE HAVE WHEN WE'RE BUILT OUT AS WE ARE AND THE SITES ARE SMALL AND AWKWARD SIZES, WE'RE GOING TO YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO MAXIMIZE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE HAVING TO PAY MAXIMUM PRICE FOR IT.
WELL, AND THERE'S A REASON WHY WHAT WE HAVE LEFT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE EASIEST.
BECAUSE IF IT WAS EASY, IT WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED.
IF THIS WAS EASY TO DO, SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE.
RIGHT, RIGHT. THERE'S A REASON WHY IT STILL IS SITTING THERE THE WAY IT IS.
IT WAS EASY WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE.
MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PLAN.
DEVELOPMENT PG 2303 WITH THE ADDITIONAL.
AS FOLLOWS WRITE THAT THE MASONRY FENCE ALONG TERRA LINDA WILL BE MAINTAINED, REPAIRED AND REPLACED AS NECESSARY BY THE OWNER AND THE HOA, AND THAT THERE WILL BE NO REAR FACING SECOND STORY WINDOWS ON LOTS ONE THROUGH TEN.
THAT. AND THEN THE THIRD ONE IS THE THE MINIMUM LOT.
DEPTH DEVIATION IS ONLY ALLOWED FOR LOTS EIGHT, NINE, 15 AND 16.
269. GOD CONSIDER THE FINAL PLAT.
[13. Final Plat of Lots 1-19, 20X and 21X, Block 1 and Lot 1, Block 2, Dove Station – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission, and take any necessary action. ]
NO STATION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION APPROVE THE STATEMENT OF FINDINGS AND THE FINAL PLAT OF LOTS ONE THROUGH 1920 X AND 21 X BLOCKS.[01:35:02]
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.[14. Historic Landmark Subdistrict HL23-01 (404 East Franklin Street) – Consider the application and make a recommendation to City Council.]
I'M 14.CONSIDER A LANDMARK OR LANDMARK 2301.
I'LL MAKE SURE I TREAT MYSELF.
EXTERNAL. AND CONSIDER ITEM 15.
[15. Vacation of Final Plat for Lots 1-R and 2-R, Block 6, Placid Peninsula Second Addition – Consider the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission relative to application submitted by Tom Domaszek requesting to vacate the amended final plat. The property is located at 3584 Mercury Drive and is currently zoned “R-7.5”, Single Family Residential District.]
THIS IS THE VACATION OF THE FINAL PLAT OF.HOW MOVES THAT PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION APPROVED A STATEMENT OF FINDINGS IN THE MAKE A MOTION FINAL PLAT FOR LOTS ONE R AND TWO R BLOCK SIX CLASSES PENINSULA SECOND EDITION SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY.
YOU CAN COMMENT ON. OF MATERIALS OUT THERE.
WELL, THAT'S SO YOU CAN LISTEN TO OUR DELIBERATIONS FOR THE RESULTS.
THIS IS NO PUBLIC HEARING IN HERE.
WELL, BUT THEY DID ALLOW US TO COME TO YOU.
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOU? WELL, YOU COULD SPEAK TO US OUT THERE.
WE SIT OUT THERE AND HEARD THE SAME THING THE COUNCIL DID.
WELL, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FLAT.
OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FLAT? THAT WASN'T AN ITEM.
BUT THAT'S NOT A THAT'S AN OLD HEARING OR THATRILLIONEQUEST.
THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S JUST A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE.
THE COUNCIL HEARD YOU DURING THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
APPROVE IT, APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY IT OR POSTPONE CONSIDERATION.
YEAH, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN. YOU STILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AFTER THIS ONE.
THOSE THAT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING AND THOSE THAT DO NOT.
CAN I MAKE A COMMENT THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO YOUR CONSIDERATION? IT WON'T. IT WON'T. WE CAN'T KNOW IF IT MAY.
NO, YOU CAN'T HEAR IT. SO CONSIDER THE MINUTES OF JUNE 20TH.
[16. Consider the minutes of the June 20, 2023 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting. ]
YOU WEREN'T IN MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 22ND.MINUTES FROM JUNE 20TH TO APPROVE AS OPPOSED TO ALL SECOND.
I NEED A MOTION TO. SUPPOSE YOU ADJOURN? SECOND ADJOURN.
OH, YEAH. WE'VE GOT ALL DISPERSED DOWN.
YES.
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