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WELCOME TO THE JUNE 28TH EDITION OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
[1. Call to Order]
THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE.ALWAYS WANT TO THANK PAUL SLECHTA.
THANK YOU, PAUL. YOUR SEAT IS ALWAYS FULL OVER THERE AS OUR LIAISON TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN WE GOT SAM HAWK BACK.
MATT FILLING IN FOR MATTHEW BOYLE, OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
PW, WE MISSED YOU LAST MEETING.
I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN YOU MISS IN DECADE.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE DAVID KLEMPIN'S 20TH ANNIVERSARY AS OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER. AND WELL DONE, DAVID.
THANK YOU. THAT'S NO SMALL FEAT AND A LOT OF GREAT, GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
[LAUGHTER] BUT IT'S BEEN A BUNCH, SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
SO BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON CITIZEN COMMENTS, ANY PERSON WHO IS NOT SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA MAY ADDRESS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES BY COMPLETING AN APPEARANCE REQUEST FORM IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
THE COMMISSION IS RESTRICTED IN DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTIONS DURING CITIZEN COMMENTS.
THE SECRETARY WILL CALL YOU FORWARD TO SPEAK IN THE ORDER YOU'VE REGISTERED.
DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO, I DO NOT. OKAY.
WE'LL START WITH OUR WORK SESSION.
[3. Work Session]
DAVID, DO YOU WANT TO RUN THROUGH OUR STAFF APPROVED CA'S, PLEASE? YES. THE FIRST CA IS CA 2333 FOR 113 EAST TEXAS STREET.WE'VE APPROVED PLANS IN THE PAST FOR THE NEW OUTREACH CENTER THAT'S GOING ON IN THERE.
AND SO THIS WAS FOR MATERIALS FOR THEIR OUTDOOR WOODEN DECK.
THEY'RE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE DECK IN THE BACK.
SO ALL THE MATERIALS HAVE TO BE APPROVED.
THEY WILL BE BRINGING US SOME BRICK TO MATCH THE BUILDING BRICK LATER ON FOR THE NEW BARBECUE SORT OF OUTDOOR KITCHEN FACILITY THAT GOES UNDER THE AWNING IN THE BACK THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
SO THIS IS JUST A CA FOR THIS PURPOSE.
THE NEXT ONE IS CA 2334 FOR 406 SOUTH MAIN.
THIS IS THE BUILDING THAT GARY GILLIAN OWNS AND IT'S THE TEXAS GENERAL STORE.
AND THEY WERE PUTTING UP A NEW SIGN IN THEIR BACKLIT, THEIR GRANDFATHERED BACKLIT SIGN.
NO NEW BACKLIT SIGNS ARE ALLOWED IN THE DISTRICT.
BUT THAT WAS AN OLD ONE FROM THE 19 EARLY 1950S.
SO THEY'RE JUST PUTTING A NEW MATERIAL SIGN IN THERE BECAUSE IT HAD FADED OUT.
THE NEXT CA IS CA 2336 AND THIS IS FOR THE HARLEY DRAIN WHO'S BUILDING THE NEW HOUSE, LITTLE HOUSE NEXT TO THE BLUE HOUSE AND RED HOUSE ON SOUTH CHURCH STREET.
IT'S FOR HIS EXTERIOR MATERIALS THAT WILL BE USED ON THE HOUSE.
AND THEN THE LAST THING WE HAVE IS CA 2338 FOR THE BUILDING AT 150 WEST COLLEGE STREET, SUITE NUMBER 318.
IT'S GOING TO BE A CHIROPRACTIC CLINIC AND IT'S IN THE BUILDING THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE FARM STORE.
LITTLE FARM STORE BUILDING ON MAIN STREET.
AND SO THIS IS CALLED A ILLUMIN8.
THANK YOU, DAVID. THAT TAKES US DOWN TO THE ITEM NUMBER FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[4.A Commision to conduct a public hearing relative to an application for Historic Landmark Designation #HL2023-01 for the property located at 404 East Franklin Street, legally described as 30 E40' 3 - W 35' 4, City of Grapevine and take any necessary action. ]
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AND A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION REGARDING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA DURING THE COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION OF THE ITEM UPON BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIRMAN OR BY CONSENT OF THE COMMISSION.UPON BEING RECOGNIZED, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM, MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE SPEAKING AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE COMMISSION IS RESTRICTED IN DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTIONS DURING THE CITIZENS COMMENTS.
I NOW DECLARE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND WE'LL START WITH HL 2023-01.
OKAY, THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 404 EAST FRANKLIN STREET, AND ON JUNE 19TH, 2023, DAVID AND GLORIA EUBANK, THE OWNERS APPLICANT, SUBMITTED HL 23-01 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 404 EAST FRANKLIN STREET.
THE HOUSE IS 780 SQUARE FOOT ONE STORY MINIMAL TRADITIONAL STYLE HOUSE, AND IT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH A NUMBER OF PROMINENT GRAPEVINE FAMILIES THROUGH THE YEARS.
CHASTEIN, WHO PURCHASED THE LOT IN 1945 AND CONSTRUCTED THE HOUSE IN 1947 AND 48.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE COLLEGE HEIGHTS EDITION OF GRAPEVINE AND THE HOUSE AND THE GARAGE ARE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES TO THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE'S ORIGINAL TOWN NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO ON THIS MAP RIGHT HERE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE RED CIRCLE IS IN THE ARROW POINTING.
THAT'S THE HOUSE AND THE GARAGE AND IT'S MARKED.
YOU SEE THE CROSSHATCHING IN IT.
THIS IS A POSTWAR, MINIMAL TRADITIONAL STYLE HOUSE, SYMMETRICAL IN APPEARANCE.
IT HAS A CENTRAL PROJECTING ENTRANCE PORCH GOING BACK TO THE PHOTOS.
THE GABLED ROOF FEATURES EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS.
THE HOUSE IS A CAMERON HOME, WHICH MEANS IT WAS UTILIZING PLANS AND STANDARD STANDARDIZED WOOD COMPONENT PARTS THAT CAME FROM THE CAMERON LUMBER YARD ON WHARF STREET IN GRAPEVINE, WHICH WAS A CHAIN OF LUMBER YARDS THAT WAS THROUGHOUT TEXAS.
THE HOUSE IS LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF THE LOT AND IS SET BETWEEN THREE OTHER CAMERON HOMES, ALSO CONSTRUCTED IN THE 1940S. YOU CAN SEE THEM NOT TO THE IMMEDIATE LEFT FROM THIS, BUT THE ONE FURTHER DOWN AND THEN TWO TO THE RIGHT.
THE HOUSE IS CONSTRUCTED ON A PIER AND BEAM FOUNDATION, AND IT FEATURES EXTERIOR MATERIALS THAT INCLUDE NUMBER 105 WOOD SIDING AND WOOD TRIM, WOOD WINDOWS AND WOOD DOORS.
THE WOOD WINDOWS ARE CONFIGURED IN A SIX OVER SIX GLASS WINDOW PANES.
THE ORIGINAL ONE CAR GARAGE IS TO THE REAR WITH A GABLED ROOF.
GARAGE FEATURES HANDMADE VERTICAL TONGUE AND GROOVE WOOD TILT UP GARAGE DOOR.
AND IT ALSO HAS OR HAD A SIDE ENTRY DOOR.
THEN THERE'S A PICTURE THERE OF THE INTERIOR OF THE GARAGE.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS HISTORIC OVERLAY NUMBER 2301 TO RECORD THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY AND TO ALLOW THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION TO HAVE INPUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE HOUSE AND THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE COLLEGE HEIGHTS ADDITION.
THERE'S A SET OF PROPOSED GUIDELINES ATTACHED WITH THIS.
ANOTHER PART OF THIS, THE THE NEXT CASE THAT FOLLOWS THIS IS FOUR MAJOR ADDITIONS TO THIS HOUSE AND TO REMOVE THE EXISTING CONTRIBUTING WOOD ONE CAR GARAGE AS A CONDITION OF THAT REMOVAL FOR OUR COMMISSION IS THAT LANDMARKING OF THE PROPERTY TAKE PLACE IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THAT REMOVING OF THAT SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURE?
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SINCE IT'S A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE TO OUR NATIONAL REGISTER AND ALSO THERE'S ENOUGH WOOD MATERIAL IN THERE THAT COULD BE EASILY SALVAGED TO USE FOR ANY REPAIRS ON THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.KEEP IT, REUSE IT SO THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY KIND OF GOOD WAY TO CONVERT THAT GARAGE INTO A NEW TWO CAR GARAGE, WHICH THE FAMILY NEEDS AND IT REQUIRES FOR THEIR LIVING.
AND SO STAFF WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF REMOVAL OF THAT GARAGE WITH THE CONDITION THAT WOOD MATERIAL, EXTERIOR WOOD SIDING BE SALVAGED AND CAN BE THEN USED ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT ANYWAY, THESE TWO CASES GO TOGETHER, SO I'M JUST INTRODUCING ONE THAT THAT WILL FOLLOW.
WOULD MR. AND MRS. EUBANK MAY LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICATION? OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DISCUSSION. IT'S A LOVELY HOUSE.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE HL 23-01 FOR THE HISTORIC OVERLAY.
THANK YOU, MARGARET. SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
THANK YOU, DAVID. LET'S TAKE US DOWN TO LETTER B, WHICH IS CA 2327 FOR THE SAME PROPERTY.
[4.B Commision to conduct a public hearing relative to an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness #CA23-27 for the property located at 404 East Franklin Street, legally described as 30 E40' 3 - W 35'4, City of Grapevine and take any necessary action. ]
OKAY.OKAY, SO THIS CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, NUMBER 2327 IS FOR THE 1947 L.G.
SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING ONE CAR DETACHED GARAGE AND TO CONSTRUCT A NEW DETACHED 500 SQUARE FOOT TWO CAR GARAGE WITH STORAGE AREA ABOVE, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION OF A 1687 SQUARE FOOT NEW ONE STORY ADDITIONS AND RENOVATION OF THIS ORIGINAL HOUSE, WHICH IS 780FT² AS PER THE ATTACHED PLANS IN THE PACKET WITH THE CONDITION THAT HL 2301 IS APPROVED FOR THE PROPERTY.
THE CONDITION ORIGINAL 105 WOOD SIDING BE SALVAGED FROM THE ONE CAR DETACHED GARAGE AND USED AS NEEDED IN RESTORING 105 WOOD SIDING ON THE HOUSE.
ALL EXTERIOR MATERIALS, WINDOWS, DOORS AND DOOR HARDWARE, LIGHT FIXTURES AND PAINT COLORS WOULD BE APPROVED UNDER A SEPARATE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. ONCE THOSE THINGS ARE COMPLETE AND APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT OF THE PROPERTY IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, WE HAD A CONDITION IN HERE THAT SAYS BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT CASE.
BUT THE BUILDER, MR. COOPER, NEIL COOPER, IS BEEN RETAINED BY THE FAMILY.
HE DID A STUDY THAT HAS SATISFACTORILY PROVEN THEY WILL NOT NEED TO DO THE BZA CASE, BUT THEY WILL NEED TO HAVE AND THIS WAS TOLD TO ME TODAY.
IT WAS VERIFIED WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT THAT THEY WILL NEED TO DO THE FINAL PLAT BECAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO PARCELS INVOLVED. SO IT HAS TO BE PLATTED.
OKAY. SO THE BACKGROUND ON THIS IS THAT THIS APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED BY DAVID AND GLORIA EUBANK ON APRIL 24TH FOR THE NEW ONE STORY ADDITIONS AND RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING HOUSE AND ALSO HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THE HL 2301 WHICH YOU ALL HAVE JUST APPROVED, WHICH ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
THE HOUSE AGAIN WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1947 FOR THE L.G.
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IT'S LOCATED IN THE COLLEGE HEIGHTS ADDITION OF THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE, WHICH HAS THE TYPICAL NARROW LOTS THAT YOU SEE THROUGHOUT THE AREA.THE POSTWAR MINIMAL TRADITIONAL STYLE HOUSE IS SYMMETRICAL IN APPEARANCE CENTRAL PROJECTING ENTRANCE PORCH GABLED ROOF EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS. IT IS A CAMERON HOME.
THE HOUSE IS LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF THE LOT.
IT'S CONSTRUCTED ON PIER AND BEAM FOUNDATION.
THE ORIGINAL ONE CAR WITH GABLED ROOF GARAGE AND EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS WITH 105 SIDING AND WOOD TRIM IS STANDING.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN THIS SITE PLAN HERE.
SO IT'S THERE TO THE REAR ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PLAN, THE PLANS AND ELEVATIONS OF THE NEW ADDITIONS AND THE NEW TWO CAR GARAGE PLANS WHICH YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, WERE DEVELOPED BY ARCHITECT RUSSELL MORAN, AND THEY WERE DEVELOPED FOLLOWING DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THIS PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY OWNERS REQUEST THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING GARAGE IN ORDER TO BUILD THE LARGER SIZE TWO CAR DETACHED GARAGE FOR THEIR FAMILY.
THE EXISTING GARAGE DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO ENLARGEMENT TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY WOULD NEED UNDER THIS REQUEST, HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF RECOMMENDED THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE DEMOLITION OF THE GARAGE WITH A CONDITION THAT 105 ORIGINAL SIDING BE SALVAGED AND USED JUST AS NEEDED FOR ANY REPAIRS THAT ARE NEEDED TO THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.
SO THAT TOTALS 2467FT² OF INDOOR LIVING AREA.
AND THIS IS WITHIN THE 3400 SQUARE FOOT MAXIMUM ALLOWED BY THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, THE HOUSE OF 2467FT², TOGETHER WITH THE DETACHED GARAGE OF 500FT².
TOTALS 2986FT², WHICH IS WITHIN THE MAXIMUM OF 4100FT² ALLOWED BY THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE FOR ALL STRUCTURES ON THE LOT.
THE LOT SIZE IS 8250FT² AND THE BUILDING COVERAGE IS 33.9% OF THE LOT, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED COVERAGE OF 40%.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS WITH THESE CONDITIONS, AS NOTED.
AND JUST A CLARIFICATION OF YOUR CONDITIONS, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE NEED TO SCRATCH THE CONDITION IN NUMBER THREE THAT INCLUDES THE APPROVAL OF THE PLOT PLAN AS RECEIVED FROM THE BOARD? RIGHT. THE BZA.
OKAY. SO WE'LL JUST TAKE THAT PART OUT.
I RECEIVED NOTIFICATION THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY.
THANK YOU. HERE, I'D LIKE TO WALK US THROUGH THE PLANS JUST FOR A MOMENT.
PLEASE DO. WHICH YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET.
HERE'S THE NEW SITE PLAN WHERE YOU SEE THE TWO CAR GARAGE TO THE REAR.
HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE HOUSE AND THE HOUSES TO THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT.
THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE INTERIOR.
WE'RE NOT SO INVOLVED IN THE INTERIOR, JUST REALLY THE EXTERIOR, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE ORIGINAL PORTION OF THE HOUSE WITH THE GABLED ROOF ON THE FRONT IN THE CENTER OF THE PLAN TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THAT PLAN.
AND THEN HERE ARE ELEVATIONS OF THE HOUSE.
AND IN THE BACK YOU CAN SEE SORT OF A GHOSTED IN AS THE TWO CAR GARAGE WITH STORAGE AREA ABOVE AND THEN THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE HOUSE AND THEN THE SIDE ELEVATIONS LEFT AND RIGHT SIDE.
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AND THEN THE GARAGE.IT'S BASICALLY A TWO CAR GARAGE.
IT DOES HAVE A STAIRWAY TO TAKE YOU UP TO THE UPPER LEVEL.
SO TO MAKE IT EASE OF GOING UP AND DOWN AND THERE ARE DORMERS ON THE GARAGE IN THE UPPER AREA.
THAT PRETTY MUCH COMPLETES THE WALKTHROUGH PLANS.
THANK YOU, SIR. WOULD MR. AND MRS. EUBANK LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? MY NAME IS DAVID EUBANK, AND THIS IS MY WIFE, GIGI RIGHT HERE.
WE LIVE AT 405 EAST TEXAS, SO WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE, PROBABLY THAT EVER HAS GONE BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR THE SECOND TIME. SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH IT WITH DAVID BEFORE AT 405 EAST TEXAS.
WE FIXED UP THE MCMILLAN HOME, WHICH WAS A VERY PROMINENT FAMILY HERE IN GRAPEVINE FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND SOME DIFFERENT REGULATIONS BACK THEN. SO IT IS A 3800 SQUARE FOOT HOME.
AND SO THE INTENTION WITH THIS HOUSE AND WHY WE WANT TO DO THIS IS TO GO BACK.
I'VE RETIRED SINCE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
BUT SO WE'RE GOING TO DOWNSIZE.
WE LOVE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
WE PUT A LOT OF OUR HEART AND SOUL INTO THAT HOUSE, AND WE'LL DO THE SAME WITH THIS HOUSE.
AND SO THE IDEA IS TO DOWNSIZE, BUT STAY RIGHT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'VE MADE GREAT FRIENDS THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN THERE.
SO THAT'S OUR WHOLE INTENTION HERE.
AND WE THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.
WE WORKED WITH DAVID ALL THROUGH THESE PLANS.
RUSSELL AND RUSSELL HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK IN THE AREA.
OF COURSE, NEIL'S DONE A LOT OF WORK IN THE AREA AND SO THOSE ARE OUR INTENTIONS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. EUBANK.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. EUBANK OR FOR DAVID? FOR DAVID? HOLD ON ONE SECOND HERE.
DAVID KLEMPIN OR DAVID EUBANK.
IT'S FOR DAVID. I'M SORRY, MR. KLEMPIN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. KLEMPIN. YES. DO WE KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE CAMERON HOUSES THERE WERE IN GRAPEVINE ORIGINALLY AND HOW MANY MIGHT STILL EXIST? WE HAVE A ROUGH ESTIMATE ABOUT LIKE BETWEEN 40 AND 44 IN THE HISTORIC TOWNSHIP.
BUT THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
THEY'RE ALL TOTALLY UNIQUE BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILT OUT WITH USING COMPONENT PARTS LIKE THIS.
INSIDE OF THIS LITTLE HOUSE, THERE'S A CUTE LITTLE TELEPHONE CABINET, WHICH WAS ONE OF THEIR HALLMARK ITEMS THAT WERE IN A LOT OF THE HOUSES, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE WOULD BUY THOSE AND PUT THEM IN THEIR HOUSES.
SO THAT'S 40 TO 60 ORIGINALLY, NOT 40 TO 60 STILL EXTANT.
THAT WAS ABOUT OVER 40 HOUSES.
THERE'S OVER 40 STRUCTURES IN THE TOWNSHIP.
YEAH, FOR THE MOST PART, YEAH.
AND WE HAVE SOME LITTLE GARAGES, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS THE ONLY, ONLY ONE.
WE'D LOVE TO KEEP THEM, BUT YOU KNOW, WITHIN REASON WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE TRIED TO HAVE A PRESERVATION PLAN, SO THEREFORE THE SALVAGING OF WOOD FROM IT TO BE THAT CAN BE USED ON THE HOUSE.
I'M SURE THAT TELEPHONE NOOK WAS PROBABLY AN UPGRADE.
[LAUGHTER] IT'S PROBABLY A VERY EXPENSIVE UPGRADE.
WELL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.
OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMENTS.? HEARING NONE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CA 2327 WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED EXCEPT FOR THE B AND Z APPROVAL.
I'LL SECOND IT. THANK YOU, ASHLEY.
THANK YOU, JIM. ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? ONE OPPOSITION WITH MR. ERIC. TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER C, CA 2335
[4.C Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness #CA23-35 for the property located at 3-6 Austin Street, legally described as Block 106, Lot 7 & 8, College Heights Addition, City of Grapevine and take any necessary action.]
FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 306 AUSTIN STREET.OKAY. WE VISITED THIS BACK IN MARCH.
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PLANS THAT THE COMMISSION DID APPROVE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.THE PRIOR OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, DAN BOCK, WAS VERY GUNG HO AND WAS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, TAKING THIS PROPERTY, RENOVATING IT AND DOING EVERYTHING THAT HE GOT APPROVED FOR.
IN THE PROCESS, HE HAD A CHANGE OF DIRECTION AND HE ACTUALLY SOMEBODY CAME ACROSS HIS PATH THAT WOULD REALLY LOVE TO BUY THE PROJECT FROM HIM. SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS HE SOLD THE PROPERTY TO THE NEW OWNERS ARE MATT AND RACHEL COSBY AND THEIR CONTRACTOR. IS PHIL WARE OF WARE CONSTRUCTION PHIL WARE WAS WORKING WITH DAN ON THAT ON THE PROJECT ALREADY.
SO THEY HAVE ALREADY HAD A PERMIT FOR THE WORK ON THE HOUSE WHICH DAN HAD BEGUN, AND THE FINAL PLANS WERE APPROVED BY US AT A PREVIOUS BACK IN MARCH.
AND SO THAT WORK IS CONTINUING.
SO THERE'S NO CHANGES TO THE HOUSE.
THE HOUSE IS EXACTLY AS WAS PRESENTED AND APPROVED.
THIS WILL BE THEIR PERSONAL HOME.
THEY WANTED TO RETHINK THE GARAGE.
SO IT'S THE SAME SIZE, IT'S THE SAME SIZE AND THE SAME FEATURES.
HOWEVER, ITS POSITIONING ON THE LOT AND HOW IT'S TIED TO THE HOUSE IS CHANGED.
SO THESE WERE THE REVISIONS WOULD BE TO PRETTY MUCH ADD A CONNECTING PORTE COCHERE WALKWAY THAT GOES THROUGH IT TO THAT YOU CAN WALK THROUGH TO GET TO THE HOUSE.
SO THIS I'LL SHOW YOU HERE, THIS IS THE PLAN WE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THAT I HAVE ON THE SCREEN WHERE THE GARAGE IS SITTING IN THE ORIGINAL GARAGE LOCATION THAT WAS ALLOWED TO BE DEMOLISHED.
THE ORIGINAL GARAGE WAS REALLY A PATCHED PIECE OF PATCH WORK.
IT LARGELY DATED FROM THE 1960S AND IN VERY POOR CONDITION.
AND AT THAT TIME THAT WAS APPROVED FOR DEMOLITION OF THAT AND REBUILDING.
SO HERE WAS THE PROPOSED NEW GARAGE.
THAT WAS BEFORE THAT WE APPROVED.
AND YOU'LL SEE IN A MOMENT IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE NEW ONE, SAME SIZE.
IT'S SORT OF LIKE HAVING A TANDEM GARAGE.
SO THERE'S REALLY ONLY ONE DOOR DOUBLE DOOR IN THE FRONT DRIVE IN.
BUT YOU COULD PUT SOME MORE VEHICLES BACK THERE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WAS APPROVED ORIGINALLY AND THAT'S HOW IT LOOKED.
THAT WAS ITS POSITION VISUALLY NEXT TO THE HOUSE.
SO ONCE THEY PURCHASED THIS, THEY HIRED RUSSELL TO REVISE THESE PLANS AND TO PRESENT THEM TO STAFF.
SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT THEM AND IT SEEMED TO BE A REASONABLE IS WHAT THEY WERE PROPOSING.
SO THEY WE'LL GET TO THE HOUSE IN A MOMENT.
I MEAN, THE GARAGE IN A MOMENT.
SO BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING, IT'S MOVING 15FT CLOSER TO THE STREET THAN IT WAS BEFORE.
AND THAT'S BROUGHT ABOUT BECAUSE THERE'S A PORTE COCHERE THAT WE DON'T COUNT ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT'S NOT COUNTED IT'S KIND OF LIKE JUST A PASS THROUGH TO GO FROM THE HOUSE OVER TO THE GARAGE.
SO ONCE IT WAS ATTACHED, IT NEEDED TO THEN BECOME 25FT FROM THE REAR.
SO THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT IT BE MOVED.
SO THE RESULT IS IT'S ACTUALLY IN A BETTER POSITION IN THE LOT BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE A BETTER BACKYARD FOR THE ENTIRE SITE AND THEN YOU STILL HAVE SIDE YARDS TOWARD THE ALLEYWAY IN THE BACK.
SO IT MOVED APPROXIMATELY 15FT TO THE TO THE SOUTH FROM WHERE IT WAS, AND IN ABOUT 15FT, ABOUT 15 BY 15, IT MOVED OVER. SO AND THEN IN THE PROCESS, IT STILL HAS THAT ORIGINAL TWO CAR FRONT ENTRY GARAGE IN THE BACK HALF OF THE LOT WITH SOME SIDE DOORS THAT COME OUT INTO THE PORTE COCHERE AND PASS THROUGH.
SO THEY WOULD USE SORT OF THE BACK PART OF THE GARAGE IN ORDER TO ALLOW LIKE USE IT SORT OF LIKE A PLAY SPACE OR A FLEX SPACE. SO IT'S NOT LIKE MORE GARAGES, IT'S STILL THE SAME GARAGE.
IT JUST HAS THOSE ACCESS DOORS IN THERE.
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THERE'S A LITTLE MORE SPACE BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THE HOUSE.IT HAS A NICE LOOK BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF OUR REAL JEWELS OF GRAPEVINE, THIS OLD BERRY HOUSE.
SO BACK TO OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THIS LOT IS 14,000FT² IN SIZE AND THE BUILDING COVERAGE WOULD BE 25.5%.
A MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE IS 40%.
THE BUILDING SIZE OF THE HOUSE WITH ITS ADDITIONS IS 3043FT² AND IT'S A 995 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE.
THOSE TOGETHER TOTAL 4038FT², WHICH IS WITHIN THE MAXIMUM ESTABLISHED BY THE ORDINANCE AT 4100FT².
AND THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS 30FT.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THESE REVISIONS TO THAT PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLANS, WHICH IS BASICALLY MOVING IT TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH AND ATTACHING IT WITH A COVERED PORTE COCHERE, ALLOWING SOME MORE FLEXIBLE SPACE IN THE PROCESS.
MR. & MRS. COSBY LIKE TO SPEAK? I DON'T THINK THEY'RE HERE.
ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVID? ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DISCUSSION. NEXT IS A TWO STORY GARAGE.
IT'S STORAGE AREA ABOVE THE GARAGE.
YOU REALLY CAN'T HAVE FULL FLOORS ABOVE THE GARAGE IN THE TOWNSHIP.
YES, SIR. YES, MA'AM. AND THEN IS THE.
IS THAT JUST GOING TO BE A FLAT ROOF? NO, IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A PITCH TO IT.
IT'S JUST A CONNECTING SHOW UP.
WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ELEVATION I HAVE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT SIX FEET HIGH FROM THE 5 TO 6FT HIGH FROM THE EAVE UP HAS A LITTLE RIDGE IN THERE.
I COULDN'T TELL THE MATERIAL WHAT IS SAME.
IT'S IT'S THE COMPOSITION SHINGLE.
RIGHT. IT BRINGS THE HORIZONTAL LINES ACROSS.
YES. IT'S NOT A REALLY I THINK I'VE GOT HERE, YOU CAN SEE IT'S NOT REALLY A VERY BIG DORMER, JUST JUST ON ONE SIDE.
DON'T YOU THINK? BECAUSE THIS IS 15, 15 TO THE INTERIOR OF THE LOT, RIGHT? RIGHT. I THINK THAT IT'S BETTER POSITIONED.
IT'S IN THE SAME RELATIONSHIP, BUT JUST OVER MOVED OVER.
BUT I THINK IT'S IN IT IMPROVES THE APPEARANCE OF THE PROPERTY AS A BYPRODUCT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS.
ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
THANK YOU. MR. AND MRS. COSBY.
[4.D Commission to conduct a public hearing relative to an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness #CA22-65 tabled at the May 24, 2023 HPC Meeting, for the property located at 701 South Main Street, legally described as Block 27, Lot 1 thru 9 and Alley of E, City of Grapevine and take any necessary action.]
THIS WAS ONE OF OUR CAS THAT DATED BACK TO MAY 24TH.YES AND WE HAVE I WILL, I'LL OPEN IT UP AND THEN WE HAVE A PRESENTATION PROVIDED BY MR. PW MCCALLUM, THE DIRECTOR OF THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU.
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I JUST, I WILL JUST OPEN UP, WHERE PICK US UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF LAST TIME.AND THIS IS TO CONSTRUCT AN AGRICULTURAL VEHICLE DISPLAY PAVILION IN THE AREA IN THE FRONT OF THE FOUNDERS BUILDING AT MAIN AND HUDGEN STREET HERE IN GRAPEVINE AS PART OF THESE PLANS.
AND THE BACKGROUND ON THIS IS THIS MEETING STARTED ORIGINALLY APRIL 26TH, 2023, AND THE COMMISSION TABLED THIS TO THE MAY 24TH MEETING TO ALLOW CONVENTION VISITORS, BUREAU STAFF TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED VEHICLE DISPLAY AGRICULTURAL VEHICLE DISPLAY PAVILION.
AT THE MAY MEETING, CHRIS LAUGENOUR OF CITY GRAPEVINE CONVENTION VISITOR BUREAU, SAID THAT STAFF WAS STILL WORKING ON THE PLANS AND FOR THE PAVILION AND REQUESTED THAT THE APPLICATION BE TABLED TO THIS JUNE 28TH, 2023, MEETING.
SO MORE WORK HAS TAKEN PLACE AND YOU WILL SEE A LITTLE PRESENTATION HERE OF HOW THIS HAS IMPROVED.
JUST BRIEFLY, THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE WERE SOUGHT AFTER REVIEWING OUR VIDEO FROM OUR MEETING, OUR NOTES FROM THE MEETING AND PICKING UP A NUMBER OF ITEMS. ONE WAS TO EXTEND THE AGRICULTURAL VEHICLE DISPLAY PAVILION TO THE WEST WALL OF THE FOUNDERS BUILDING AND BASICALLY TYING IT INTO THE BUILDING. ANOTHER WAS CHANGING THE CANOPY TO A NEW PORCH, THE CANOPY THAT WAS FACING MAIN STREET.
NOW IT WILL BE A PORCH INSTEAD OF JUST A LITTLE THIN, SMALL OR SHALLOW CANOPY.
IT WILL BE A PORCH, THEN PREPARING A NORTH ELEVATION, DRAWING FOR THE DRAWING SET TO ADD TO THE CLARIFICATION FOR FOR YOUR USE IN EVALUATING THIS PROPOSAL AND THEN ADDING PHOTOS OF THE PROPOSED WE HAD, WE MENTIONED THAT THERE'S UPWARD FOLDING GLASS DOORS ON THIS THING THAT MAKES IT VERY GLASSY, VERY OPEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THEY'RE CLOSED OR OPEN AND IT OPENS UP THE WHOLE SIDES OF THIS THING.
AND THEN ALSO PROVIDING PHOTOS OF GRAPEVINES, COLLECTION OF VINTAGE AGRICULTURAL VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE DISPLAYED IN THE PAVILION. SO YOU'LL SEE ALL OF THAT TONIGHT.
THANK YOU, DAVID. SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN YOUR PACKET.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL FORWARD MR. MCCALLUM. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE SOME APPROPRIATE BACKGROUND ON THIS.
THIS WHOLE PROJECT, I MEAN, THIS IS A PROJECT WITH A GREAT DEAL OF BACKGROUND ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND I WILL SEE WHAT I CAN DO TO SHARE WITH YOU IN REGARDS TO THIS.
AND REALLY, IT SORT OF STARTS WITH THE IDEA OF WHEN WE PUT THE GRAPEVINE MAIN PROJECT TOGETHER, TEXRAIL CAME TO TOWN AND THERE WAS IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE MAYOR, HE WAS VOICING HIS CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
THIS COULD WELL BE AN ONSLAUGHT ON GRAPEVINES AGRICULTURAL HERITAGE, THAT THERE WAS SOME REAL LIKELIHOOD OF IT JUST SORT OF SLIPPING AWAY IN THE SENSE AS BECAUSE YOU SEE THIS, YOU KNOW, RATHER SUBSTANTIAL BUILDINGS AND SUCH COMING ONTO MAIN STREET. AND SO WE WE BEGAN TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT HISTORY REALLY WAS, WHAT WHAT DENOTED THE AGRICULTURAL HISTORY OF GRAPEVINE.
AND IT'S VERY VARIED SORT OF BEGINNING WITH GRAIN AND COTTON TRUCK FARMING, DAIRY.
AND SO WE BEGAN THE PROCESS AT THAT TIME OF COLLECTING THAT MATERIAL AND THESE HISTORIC PIECES.
AND SO I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME OF IT.
THIS IS, FOR EXAMPLE, HERE YOU WOULD SEE THESE ALL OVER THE GRAPEVINE, PRAIRIE, RIGHT, THE STEAM TRACTOR, THE WAGONS AND AND, OF COURSE, THE THE THRASHES AND SUCH RUNNING AND AND AGAIN, IN THAT EARLY INDUSTRY, A LOT OF IT TOOK PLACE OUT IN THE FIELD ITSELF. AND SO A VERY SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT HERE.
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THIS IS AN AUTHENTIC 1870S STUDEBAKER FARM WAGON THAT HAS BEEN VERY GENEROUSLY DONATED TO US.SO THIS IS A PIECE OF THE COLLECTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SHARON STUDEBAKER ROGERS AND SO AND THIS BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WE ACQUIRED FROM THE GREAT UNCLE OF SHANE AND PAULA WILBANKS.
THIS IS THE WILBANKS STEAM TRACTION ENGINE.
OF COURSE, IT WAS USED UP IN THE PANHANDLE.
SHANE'S UNCLE HAD OPERATED THIS UP UNTIL RECENT TIMES.
IT'S A FULLY OPERATIONAL VEHICLE NOW.
WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN ACQUIRING THAT.
HE, BY THE WAY, LIVED TO BE 104 YEARS OLD.
AND PAULA SHARED SOME GREAT STORIES ABOUT HIM.
SO THAT'S THE SECOND PIECE IN THE COLLECTION.
I TALKED ABOUT WHAT TRUCK FARMING MEANS.
THAT'S VEGETABLES. AND IT'S NOT FARMING TRUCKS.
IT'S TRUCKS THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE TRUCKED IT IN TO THE LOCAL MARKET DURING THAT ERA, GRAPEVINE BECAME THE CANTALOUPE CAPITAL OF TEXAS, CERTAINLY ALWAYS HAD THE PRIZE WINNING WATERMELONS AT THE COUNTY FAIRS AND SUCH AS THAT. AND AGAIN, THROUGH THE GENEROSITY OF THE WELL BANK OF THE WEST AND THOSE FOLKS OVER THERE, THEY THIS IS A 1932.
IT WAS ALL ORIGINAL AND IT JUST GOT A COSMETIC RESTORATION.
AND SO IT WILL ALSO FORM A VERY FINE PART OF THE DISPLAY.
AND THEN THE SORT OF THE FINAL PIECE, WHICH IS ONE WE'VE HAD QUITE SOME TIME WE USE AS A PARADE VEHICLE AND THAT'S OF COURSE OUR VERY OWN MISS GRAPEVINE, WHICH IS A 1929 GRAPE DESTEMMER CRUSHER, BUT ALSO USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES, AGAIN, IN THE FARMING WORLD.
AND SO THIS ONE WE HAVE ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN IN PARADES ALL OVER TEXAS.
BUT THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS THAT TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH PEOPLE CAN READ ABOUT, WE WILL HAVE VERY SIGNIFICANT SIGNAGE, ETCETERA, THAT WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW FARMING PROGRESSED IN GRAPEVINE.
SO PRIOR TO THE RAILROAD, IT WAS MORE SUBSISTENCE FARMING.
THERE WAS A COUPLE OF FLOUR MILLS HERE SO IT COULD BE CONVERTED.
GRAINS WERE CONVERTED TO FLOUR, THEN PUT ON WAGONS.
BUT THERE WAS A LIMIT TO HOW FAR IT COULD GO.
SO THERE WAS A LIMIT TO WHAT YOU COULD PRODUCE.
WHEN THE RAILROAD CAME IN 1888, THAT CHANGED THINGS DRAMATICALLY.
THE PRAIRIE IS A VERY RICH SOIL AND SO THE TRAINS COULD BRING IN THE AGRICULTURAL EQUIPMENT AND THE TRAINS COULD SHIP OUT VAST AMOUNT OF GRAIN, COTTON, THE VEGETABLES.
ET CETERA. THEY COULD PUT FRESH VEGETABLES ON IT AND THEY COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY TO SAINT LOUIS IN A, YOU KNOW, BY DAYLIGHT THE NEXT DAY AND BE SOLD IN THE MARKETS AND SUCH THERE.
SO IT THAT'S WHAT CONTRIBUTED TO MAIN STREET THE SUCCESS OF MAIN STREET AND THE GROWTH OF MAIN STREET AND ALL THOSE WONDERFUL BUILDINGS TODAY THAT THAT HAVE THEIR ROOTS IN THIS, THE IDEA OF THE AGRICULTURAL PAST.
SO WE WANT TO WEAVE THAT STORY.
SO AS PEOPLE COME AND THEY LOOK AT THIS EQUIPMENT AND IT'S ALL VERY IMPRESSIVE, YOU READ ABOUT IT AND IT TELLS THE STORY OF HOW GRAPEVINE GOT TO THE PLACE WHERE IT'S AT. AND IT'S AS MUCH FOR OUR CITIZENS SO THAT OUR CITIZENS UNDERSTAND YOU COME FROM A VERY SPECIAL PLACE.
YOU COME FROM A COMMUNITY THAT IS A STANDALONE COMMUNITY.
EVERYBODY CAME IN HERE BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THE RAILROAD WAS.
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THIS IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO SHIP STUFF, ETCETERA.AND THAT WHAT GAVE RISE TO THE SUCCESS TO THE RISE OF BANKS HERE AND SUCH.
SO THE OTHER THING IN TODAY'S WORLD IS THAT PEOPLE LOVE SELFIES, RIGHT? THEY WANT TO TAKE THEIR PICTURE WITH THINGS.
THERE'S A COUPLE MORE ITEMS THAT WILL STILL BE COLLECTING BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO.
DAIRY WAS HUGELY SIGNIFICANT HERE.
WHAT SORT OF BROUGHT AN END TO DAIRY WERE THE BUILDING OF DFW INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.
AND SO WE'VE GOT TO TELL THAT STORY SO IT DOESN'T GO AWAY.
AND OF COURSE, WHERE IS ALL THE FOOT TRAFFIC AND SUCH? IT IS ON MAIN STREET.
AND SO THE IDEA THAT IS TO DISPLAY THIS.
SO IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL DISPLAY.
IT'S A FUN DISPLAY TO TAKE YOUR PICTURE AT.
BUT WHAT USED TO BE WORD OF MOUTH NOW GOES OUT AND ON TO PEOPLE'S FACEBOOK AND GOES EVERYWHERE.
AND IF THEY'RE DOING IT IN GRAPEVINE, WE ALREADY HAVE SEEN HOW SUCCESSFUL OUR PUBLIC ART PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN PROMOTING GRAPEVINE OUTSIDE OF GRAPEVINE BY EVERY EVERY DAY VISITORS.
THEY TAKE THEIR PICTURES WITH IT, THEY SEND IT OFF, ETCETERA.
WE THINK THIS THESE UNIQUE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.
YOU KNOW, GREAT GRANDPARENTS, SOMETIMES EVEN GRANDPARENTS, DEPENDING ON YOUR AGE.
SO AND THEN SOMETIMES YOU MAY HAVE BEEN ONE YOURSELF.
SO BUT PEOPLE LOVE THAT CONNECTION.
SO THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS SIGNIFICANT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WE WENT, OH MY GOODNESS, THE PEACE PLAZA NOW HAS CREATED ANOTHER SORT OF WHOLE DRAW THE TEXRAIL, BRINGING PEOPLE IN BOTH FROM THE AIRPORT AND BEFORE TOO MANY YEARS HAVE GONE BY.
THE SILVER LINE IS GOING TO BRING IMMENSELY MORE PEOPLE INTO GRAPEVINE, AND THAT IS A REALLY SIGNIFICANT LOCATION THERE. SO WE WENT, OKAY, HOW DO WE MAKE IT WORK? AND AT FIRST WE JUST SORT OF LOOKED AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE RAILROAD AND SUCH.
AND THEN WE REALIZED THAT THAT LITTLE PLAZA OUT IN FRONT AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE THAT WHEN.
AND IT HAS GROWN INTO A SIGNIFICANT TREE NOW.
AND SO THE IDEA YOU REALLY DON'T GET TO SEE NAT AND WILLY IN THE PLAZA ANYMORE.
YOU HAVE EITHER GOT TO GO TO HUDGINS STREET OR YOU GOT TO GO OVER BY THE DEPOT.
BUT THE MOST POPULAR PLACE FOR WATCHING IT NOW IS PEACE PLAZA.
YOU CAN SEE IT AND HEAR IT FROM OVER THERE.
SO THOSE ARE JUST THINGS TO KIND OF KEEP IN MIND THAT ARE IMPORTANT WITH THIS.
SO WE TIE THOSE THINGS TOGETHER.
LET'S GO TO SEE. SO NOW THIS IS THE FOUNDERS BUILDING.
I'LL JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THAT.
IN 1987, 1988, I TALKED TO TED WILHOIT, MARY VIRGINIA SIMMONS, DOROTHY BETH FRANCISCO, WILLIS PIRKLE, NUMEROUS OTHER PEOPLE WHO AT THAT TIME WERE ALREADY IN THEIR 80S AND 90S.
SO THEY KNEW GRAPEVINE OF THE EARLY 1900S PRE WORLD WAR ONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
WE WERE REALLY ABOUT REVITALIZING, JUST REVITALIZING MAIN STREET.
AND IT WAS IN THAT PROCESS THAT WE BEGAN TO REALIZE HOW DEEP OUR HISTORY WENT.
BUT THEY SAID, WELL, THERE'S THREE THINGS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO GRAPEVINE.
AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD EVER BRING ANYTHING BACK, IT SHOULD BE THE COTTON BELT.
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SAID THE RAILROAD DISTRICT WAS SO IMPORTANT THROUGHOUT OUR LIVES.THE SECOND PIECE THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS HOW CAN WE HANG ON TO THIS IDEA? BECAUSE EVEN AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD HAVE A ONCE OR TWICE EVERY IT SEEMED LIKE ALMOST EVERY MONTH THAT ANOTHER FARM AROUND HERE WOULD GO DOWN TO BEING A HOUSING ADDITION.
SO THEY WERE DISAPPEARING RAPIDLY.
SO THEY SAID, WELL, EVEN THOSE THOSE FATHERS AND MOTHERS OF GRAPEVINE AT THAT TIME WERE WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO LOOK AFTER THE FACT THAT GRAPEVINE IS AN AGRICULTURAL TOWN FIRST AND FOREMOST.
AND THEN WE GOT TO GET GRAPEVINE TURNED BACK TO WHAT IT WAS, RIGHT? THEIR IDEA IS, AND THEY DIDN'T SEE IT AS RESTORATION OR PRESERVATION AT THAT TIME.
IT WAS JUST BRING BACK GOOD OLD GRAPEVINE.
WELL, THAT TOOK A CONSIDERABLE TIME.
I DON'T THINK TOO MANY PEOPLE WERE SURE THAT WE COULD DO IT.
AND THERE YOU SEE IT RIGHT THERE.
SO FROM THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WE GOT IT, WE PUT ARTISANS IN THERE.
AND THEN SOME OF YOU WILL REMEMBER JESS MICHAEL DANIEL.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY IN THOSE DAYS.
THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE LAYERS THERE.
YOU CAN'T SEE IT. THAT'S A FLAT ROOF.
AND WE TAKE OUR BUCKETS OF BLACK PITCH UP THERE AND WE'D DAUB IT EVERYWHERE.
WE THOUGHT WE'D STOP THE RAIN.
AND FINALLY ONE DAY JESS SAID, YOU KNOW, WE JUST OUGHT TO PUT A GABLE ROOF ON IT.
WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? AND HE SAID, THAT WAY WE CAN CURE THE RAIN.
AND SO THAT BROUGHT US TO THIS.
SO WE PUT THAT ON TOP OF THAT.
THAT'S THAT LITTLE BUILDING YOU JUST LOOKED AT.
WE'RE SO THRILLED WITH THE GABLE ROOF.
WE THOUGHT, WELL, WE NEED TO SORT OF MAKE IT PART OF THE RAILROAD'S 1888.
MAYBE WE SHOULD PUT A PORCH ON IT.
SO OVER A PERIOD OF ABOUT 12 MONTHS, THEN WE ADDED THE PORCH AND, AND WE PUT THE PORCH UP THERE.
AND IT WOULD STILL BE A YEAR OR TWO UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THE DEPOT BACK BECAUSE AGAIN, IT TOOK A WHILE JUST TO BUY ALL THE PIECES OF LAND BACK THAT HAD BEEN CHOPPED OFF AND SOLD OFF BY THE SOUTHERN PACIFIC AFTER THEY TOOK OVER THE COTTON BELT RAILROAD.
SO NOW WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THIS IS HOW THE PAVILION WILL APPEAR. YOU CAN SEE IT'S VERY HAS A VERY HIGH ROOF AND SUCH THAT SITS IN FRONT OF IT.
IT HAS THE SAME CORRUGATED ROOF AND ACROSS THE FRONT, THAT'S ALL EXPANSES OF GLASS, CLEAR GLASS.
WE ARE THE ROOF LINE WILL GO BACK AND TOUCHED TO THE BUILDING, ALMOST TOUCH THE BUILDING, BUT NOT CONNECT TO IT.
THE REASON BEING YOU SAW THAT IS REALLY A FLAT ROOF AND THAT IS JUST A SIMPLE GABLES UP THERE.
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OR IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN MAIN STREET, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH IT, SEE WHAT'S IN IT.AND THERE'S TWO REASONS THAT IT'S THAT TALL IS THE STEAM TRACTOR ITSELF IS VERY TALL.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS THAT AT AROUND THE CHRISTMAS CAPITAL OF TEXAS TIME, WE WILL LIKELY RELOCATE.
AND WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT FOR THIS EXTRA HEIGHT ET CETERA IS THAT SO WE CAN PUT A CAROUSEL IN THERE DURING THE CHRISTMAS SEASON AND THEN THAT CAROUSEL WOULD BE KIND OF WEATHERPROOFED.
SO AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE LOCATION.
SO NOW IF YOU STAY THIS WONDERFUL TREE THAT FOUND THE WATER.
BUT THE OTHER THING WAS THAT ALL THOSE YEARS WE WOULD KEEP TRIMMING IT UP BECAUSE THE GENERAL IDEA WAS, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SORT OF MAYBE STAND AROUND IT OR WHATEVER, AND YOU COULD SEE, BUT THAT SORT OF FORCED IT TO GROW WIDER.
SO NOW YOU HAVE TO STAND OVER BY THE DEPOT OR ON HUDGINS YOU CAN STILL SEE ON HUDGINS STREET, BUT THE AREA WHERE THE BUILDING IS GOING IS NO LONGER IS ABLE TO WATCH NAT AND WILLIE.
PEOPLE CAN STILL CONGREGATE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AROUND IT AND DOWN ON THE HUDGINS STREET SIDE.
BUT OTHERWISE THEY COME AWAY FROM THE BUILDING AND GO OVER TO THE OTHER BUILDING.
NOW. SO YOU SEE IN BOTH THE NORTH AND SOUTH END, THESE ARE BIFOLD GLASS DOORS.
SO IT'S GLASS ON THE WEST AND GLASS ON THE EAST, GLASS ON THE NORTH, GLASS AND SOUTH.
SO TO KIND OF CREATE A PAVILION LIKE EFFECT SO THOSE DOORS WILL SIMPLY GO UP AND THAT ALLOWS BREEZE AND SUCH TO FLOW THROUGH THERE.
THEY WILL BE OPEN MOST OF THE TIME.
BUT CERTAINLY AT THE APPROPRIATE TIMES IT IS OPENED UP AND PEOPLE CAN TAKE SEE AND YOU CAN SEE HOW IT EXTENDS OVER AND GETS UP UNDER THAT OTHER ROOF LINE APPEARS TO BE CONNECTED TO THE BUILDING, BUT IT'S NOT.
BUT AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM BETWEEN THE EQUIPMENT, ETCETERA.
SO IN TERMS OF SINCE IT IS THE FOUNDERS BUILDING ITSELF, IT'S NOT A HISTORIC.
SO BUT WE WANT TO MATCH IT, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF IT WAS HIGHLY HISTORIC, WE MIGHT KIND OF CONSIDER THAT WE WOULD WANT THEM TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS THERE.
BUT IN THE SENSE WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MADE IT LOOK LIKE IT COULD IN ORDER FOR IT TO DO WHAT IT NEEDED TO DO AND STILL DOES AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO.
AND AND SO THIS ONE WILL SIMPLY BECOME A PART OF IT AND CREATE THE SENSE THAT, OH, HERE'S THIS SORT OF PAVILION COMING OFF OF THE FOUNDERS ITSELF.
AND WOULD YOU MIND IF I TOOK A FEW QUESTIONS? WOULD IT BE OKAY? YEAH.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? GIVE THEM AT THE END. OKAY.
I THINK THERE'LL STILL BE A WALKWAY BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS AND STUFF.
SO IT'S YOU WILL WALK THROUGH, RIGHT? SO IF YOU CROSS HUDGINS, YOU CAN GO BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.
OKAY? AND YOU CAN ALSO WALK AROUND THE ON.
THERE'S ANOTHER PORCH THERE, YOU KNOW.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THE SIDEWALK.
BUT DURING, YOU KNOW, THE POPULAR TIMES OF VISITATION, IT'S OPEN ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH.
SO YOU'LL JUST GO RIGHT THROUGH IT.
YOU'LL JUST FLOW YOU'LL FLOW RIGHT THROUGH IT.
AND THEN THIS IS SO YOU CAN THIS IS THE BEST WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF THESE DOORS.
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THERE ARE BIFOLD, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT THE THE ROLL UP, ETCETERA, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO GET HEIGHT.WE WANT A LOT OF HEIGHT IN IT.
AND THE WAY YOU DO IT IS WITH THE BIFOLDS.
BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW IT REALLY JUST SORT OF OPENS UP THOSE THAT BUILDING.
SO IT WILL, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY, IN FACT, ON THE ONE ON THE LEFT THERE, YOU SEE HOW IT'S SORT OF GLASSED ON ON ONE SIDE OF IT ONCE YOU GET THAT UP GOOD AND UP.
AND AND SO IT'S A VERY SIMPLE OPERATION IN TERMS OF HOW THEY WORK.
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON HOW DO WE GET GLASS WALLS THAT OPEN.
AND THESE WERE THE SIMPLEST THEY'RE ALSO THE LEAST EXPENSIVE.
THIS IS SO YOU CAN LOOK BACK AT IT AGAIN.
YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK AT IT IN A DIFFERENT SENSE.
NOW IT'S MORE PAVILION LIKE WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE AND IT'S MORE SECURE WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE.
SO I'M GLADLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE WEST ELEVATION.
ARE THOSE WINDOWS GOING TO BE FIXED OR WILL THEY BE OPERABLE TO ON THE ON THE WEST? YES, AT THIS TIME THEY'RE FIXED.
SO IT REPLICATES IT SAME ANGLE, SAME HEIGHT LEVEL.
THANK YOU ALL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? W YOU DO SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY.
THE REASON WHY PEOPLE COME HERE.
SO. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK VERY FAR TO SEE HOW IT IT WAS IN NEED OF ACTION. MARGARET AND SHELLEY INTEREST THAT WELL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
YOU KNOW, HAVING THOSE ARTIFACTS REALLY ALLOWS THE HISTORY JUST TO COME TO LIFE.
YEAH. I WAS WITH THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.
I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE VIEW DOWN MAIN STREET NOW WITH WILLIAM TATE, WHERE YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH.
I NOW COME. NORTH ON MAIN AND IT REALLY BALANCES.
SO THAT KIND OF ALLEVIATED ALL MY CONCERNS IN THAT WAY.
SO I THINK THIS IS WILL BE A VERY GOOD, NICE DESIGN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS CA-2265.
ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
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TAKES US TO OUR LAST ITEM FOR MAY 24TH, ALSO KNOWN AS MY DAUGHTERS BIRTHDAYS MINUTES AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MAY 24TH MEETING.
MOTION PASSES AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ALL IN FAVOR? SAME SIGN. OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TONIGHT, COMMISSIONERS.
THANK YOU, P.W..
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.